I have a Sony xbr960 crt, and a new A2. I just put in skycaptain and noticed this odd framing issue. Is this some kind of overscan or some known problem? I suspect it has something to do with how my tv displays and is not a disc/movie problem.

You'll notice in the picture, there are thick lines framing the movie, and past them, can be seen more movie footage. This is really annoying as this is the best I've seen this movie look, but the bars are incredibly distracting. PLEASE LOOK AT THE PICTURE before you do something stupid and flame me for OAR. I've never noticed this on any other movie, HD or SD.

http://aycu25.webshots.com/image/34064/2000405265624481078_rs.jpg

That's pretty weird. In the picture it looks like a physical reflection of some kind. It doesn't seem to look like an exact extension of the same image. I certainly don't remember anything like that when I watched SK (I have an A1). If no other disks do it I'd be skeptical that it's an issue with the display. What resolution are you running at?? Did you reboot the A2 and try again??

wow that is odd indeed.

on crt's its usually the other way around, you normally see less of the image if anything.

Is this the only HD-DVD doing this?

That's pretty weird. In the picture it looks like a physical reflection of some kind. It doesn't seem to look like an exact extension of the same image. I certainly don't remember anything like that when I watched SK (I have an A1). If no other disks do it I'd be skeptical that it's an issue with the display. What resolution are you running at?? Did you reboot the A2 and try again??

Its most definitely not a reflection. I can see the image moving as the movie plays. Its really an extension of whats happening on screen. Its running at 1080i. I'll reboot and try again, but it was booted fresh for this, and played Riddick just fine last night.

another pic, as you can see, it's very easy to see the curtains, wall, etc extend beyond the 'framing'. I just rebooted and it's still there.

http://aycu12.webshots.com/image/32091/2005555318830336848_rs.jpg

tutelary, does your TV have a tendency to underscan other sources to this degree?

I'm running an XA2 to a Panansonic TH-42ph9uk over HDMI. I checked the disk, and sure enough something odd happening: in the scene where Gweneth Paltrow is nearly crushed by robots and almost loses her camera in the storm drain, when I repositioned the image as far as my display would allow to reveal what was beneath the lower edge, there was something like a copy of a narrow slice of the above frame, but only on the bottom (I neglected to check the sides). I've never seen anything like this before, but I don't think it has anything to do with framing as it was a duplicate out of the lower middle of the whole frame. That's just odd.

yeah, I see it better in that picture. Do you have any other Paramount disks to check?

yeah, I see it better in that picture. Do you have any other Paramount disks to check?

Sorry no, I don't.

As for underscanning, I've never noticed this problem before on anything played on my tv, regardless of source. I did forget to mention I am running hdmi. I have no component inputs to spare.
I have played Transformers and Riddick in HD without this problem.
edit: its 2:25 am, and I'm headed to bed. I'll check back in the morning. If anyone has any ideas, please post away, thanks :)

That is pretty strange. I just saw this 2 nights ago and did not have that problem.

looks more like the bezel on your screen is reflecting the picture.

This movie was "filmed" using Digital Camera(s) and not 35mm film:

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0346156/technical

It may be a case where the AR for the camera is 1.78 and someone while transferring the movie to disc opened up the matte to 1.85 showing the black lines you see.

Just an educated guess.

looks more like the bezel on your screen is reflecting the picture.

...you do realize that I'm actually standing here looking at the screen as I take the picture, right?

This movie was "filmed" using Digital Camera(s) and not 35mm film:

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0346156/technical

It may be a case where the AR for the camera is 1.78 and someone while transferring the movie to disc opened up the matte to 1.85 showing the black lines you see.

Just an educated guess.

bleh. that sounds reasonable and is a really crappy answer in terms of me not being able to fix it :x

A good question would be, do people watching it on a pc see this?

Hey guys.

I got this the other day. Will screencapture this on my PC and post here + the screen shot thread.

I've got a question for the OP:

In the photo you provided, what are the areas that I have circled in red in my attachment? It looks like reflection from your bezel, which is what mikeyj was referring to, I suspect. If it isn't your bezel, then all I can say is "wow, that is weird".

It would be good if you could upload a photo with some room/ambient lighting so we can see where you screen physically ends.

shinksma

...you do realize that I'm actually standing here looking at the screen as I take the picture, right?

*lol*

All I can personally tell you is that on my system that for sure does not happen. You may have some weird issue that is very specific to the combination of equipment you're using. My first move would be get a hold of another Paramount disk that's in a 1.85 AR and see if it's common to all the releases from that studio on your system. If other disks work, I think you just have to write it off as a glitch and just enjoy the movie...

http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/2597/reflectionmo0.th.png (http://img152.imageshack.us/my.php?image=reflectionmo0.png)

and the other part (beam?) from the upper left corner of the 1st image sure look like a reflection to me.

unfortunately i just wiped my machine and don't have any of my image analysis codes on it again yet.

I just popped the disk in and repositioned my screen in all directions. I didn't see anything out of the ordinary on my display. That's a strange problem alright.

uhh, I really think that's the light of your screen reflecting off the housing. Srsly.

I have the exact same TV. Looks just like light reflecting off the bezel to me (which sticks out quite a bit).

I don't think this is on the disk. I could only make this happen by "looking beneath the frame," if that makes any sense (yes, it's late). Nothing above the frame, nothing to the side. And no, these are not my normal settings. Yes, that's the top of the frame on the bottom of my screen. I thought only CRTs did stuff like this.

I have played Transformers and Riddick in HD without this problem.I think those titles have a 2.35:1 aspect ratio, so your bezel would only reflect the black bars above and below the image, hence they would appear to not have this problem.

Do you have any other movies besides 'Sky Captain' that are 1.85 or 1.78 aspect ratio that you could try out on your display?

Sanjay

Definetly nothing on the disc.

Direct frame grabs are here:
http://david2k.orcon.net.nz/hddvd/Sky%20Captain%20and%20the%20World%20of%20Tomorrow/

I think those titles have a 2.35:1 aspect ratio, so your bezel would only reflect the black bars above and below the image, hence they would appear to not have this problem.



Uhh, yes they would, on the sides.

Uhh, yes they would, on the sides.

Well maybe the effect would not be as apparent: maybe the OP only notices it with Sky Capt because it is on all sides thanks to the 1.78:1 aspect ratio, whereas a 2.35:1 movie would only have it on the middle part of the sides and perhaps is not as obvious?

Dunno, I'm just throwing out ideas like everyone else...

shinksma

Well maybe the effect would not be as apparent: maybe the OP only notices it with Sky Capt because it is on all sides thanks to the 1.78:1 aspect ratio, whereas a 2.35:1 movie would only have it on the middle part of the sides and perhaps is not as obvious?Thanx; exactly my point. Meanwhile, I wish the OP would try other 1.85/1.78 titles.

Sanjay

And people don't understand why I H A T E piano (glossy) blk bezels!

OP,
Good luck w/this.

I vote reflection. I did an image search on your TV.

Found this.

http://ded.zenblue.net/XBR960/IMG_1905.jpg

Looks the same.