I myself am not a current PS3 owner but will become one once MGS4 and other games arrive.

I personally like all games regardless of system(similar to how stephen colbert does not see color).

So if you own both systems..whats the rationale behind the PS3 version? Do you like the controller better? Are load times better?

My perspective that I'm seeing is they release games for both systems and there is always this "but the ps3 has a framerate of x, or is missing this component". I know its a Cell processor..but you can't tell me that people can't make a decent port equal across platforms.

I just wanted the opinions on why one version over the other. Why would I want a PS3 Devil May Cry 4 over a 360 DMC4

***NOT INTENDED TO BE A FLAME-Own wii,xb360, ps3 in 08******

This is gonna get locked but,.....exclusivity.

What makes you settle on a PS3 version over a xbox 360 version?

Nothing if I have the option, aka exclusivity.

it shouldn't be locked. I just want to know. No one system is better than the other. Its a corporate game they play to get people against each other. You turn into an xbox flamer or a wii fanboy.

thx assasyn

Increasing the trade deficit between America and Japan.

why would we "settle"!?

funny choice of words, IMO...

The choice for me is all multiplatform games and exclsuvies for the 360. I only buy exclusives for the PS3. Reason for the multi is because the features I get in the game like achievments(before some complains I said because I like. Plus games like COD 4 all my friends are on the 360 version(really has nothing to do with which version plays better just how it is because things didn't have the other way)

Stranglehold is the best example I can give. I'd buy it over the 360 version because the inclusion of Hard Boiled on Blu-Ray disc is of more value than achievements or online play. Outside of that, I can't think of a reason right now to buy a PS3 game over the 360 version. They usually run smoother and have better online play.

1. I don't own a 360
2. I like the controller better (even if I had a 360)
3. I want to support the system that I personally consider to be better, hence #1.

For the vast majority of multiplatform games I will buy them on the 360 as they are as good or better on it. I prefer Live integration as well. Some games if developed on PS3 as lead sku then I would get that version such as Burnout 5.

Right now, all MP games I purchase on the 360. The only games I'm getting on the PS3 are exclusives. Until Sony gets the in-game XMB, cross-game invites, etc. I'm sticking with MP games on the 360. I used to say the exact opposite, but the Live integration has won me over. O...and the achievements are big too. I can see what other games I have that my friends have which helps.

I'd get the PS3 version whenever possible.

1. The system is much quieter (that's huge plus, imo).
2. I prefer the PS3 controller for most games.

The other stuff people have mentioned (premium online and achievements) isn't that important to me. I'd only pick up the 360 version should there be a framerate issues or the like in the PS3 version.

Meh, call me a hopeless romantic, but I think the PS3 online has a bright future. I've been completing all the PS3 games I can so when HOME finally rolls out I might get all the trophies/avatar mods they support.

So I don't have to turn up my stereo to 11 to drown out the fan/drive noise... cheap, but true. I only really keep my 360 around for exclusives; I tend to like the PS3 interface, controllers, etc. alot better on the whole. Not to mention I've grown to hate the XBL experience; achievements, MS points, F-bombs and N-bombs, etc. so much so I downgraded to silver and only go online when I need an update or something. I'm an old, jaded gamer for the record.

I'd get the PS3 version whenever possible.

1. The system is much quieter (that's huge plus, imo).
2. I prefer the PS3 controller for most games.

The other stuff people have mentioned (premium online and achievements) isn't that important to me. I'd only pick up the 360 version should there be a framerate issues or the like in the PS3 version.

My PS3 is silent. No exaggeration.

360 break, alot. Less you play the less likely it is top happen.

No better reason.

any fighting games that are on both systems, I will buy the ps3 version cause I think the 360 controller is terrible for fighting games.

Usually I prefer multiplatform games on the 360 for the achievement reason.

Lately I've been getting PS3 versions of games as I have just sent my 360 in for repair for the third time. So basically I just want to be able to actually play the game. That being said, games like COD4 are really starting to show how impressive and near-identical a multiplatform game can be on both platforms, so it boils down to the more subjective stuff like controller feel, etc.

My experience with reliability of the 360 won't stop me from picking up exclusives like Mass Effect, but unless there is a huge difference between versions of a game, I will stick with the PS3 version.

it depends which game is the better version and most of the time its the 360... i dont know if sony will ever take that "lead" but when/if they do people will start buying multiplatform games on it.

i think sony can do things to get people to buy the ps3 version (stranglehold was a good idea with the bluray movie on the disc)

I bought Tigerwoods on the PS3 over the 360 version because the picture is sharper on the PS3. I think this may vary from TV to TV but typically an HDMI connection will provide a sharper picture over component. For the longest time I didn't like the PS3 controller after getting used to the 360 but now that I'm used to the PS3 controller now it doesn't matter. For me the PS3 is just slicker than the 360. However, I'm always hesitant in getting a PS3 game over a 360 game simply because games get ported from the 360 to the PS3 and there's more of a chance of a PS3 game not getting as good of a framerate simply because some developers give the 360 the priority. The 360 is holding back the power of the PS3 unfortunately.

I buy the PS3 versions usually because I dont want to pay for internet play and more of my friends are on PSN.

I myself am not a current PS3 owner but will become one once MGS4 and other games arrive.

I personally like all games regardless of system(similar to how stephen colbert does not see color).

So if you own both systems..whats the rationale behind the PS3 version? Do you like the controller better? Are load times better?

My perspective that I'm seeing is they release games for both systems and there is always this "but the ps3 has a framerate of x, or is missing this component". I know its a Cell processor..but you can't tell me that people can't make a decent port equal across platforms.

I just wanted the opinions on why one version over the other. Why would I want a PS3 Devil May Cry 4 over a 360 DMC4

***NOT INTENDED TO BE A FLAME-Own wii,xb360, ps3 in 08******

If it looks and plays roughly the same, I get for the quieter system, the PS3.
Otherwise, I get it for the 360.

Absolutely nothing. I'm a big fan of Live and it's seamless interaction/integration. Achievements are also fun to me. The 360 controller has the perfect layout for analog sticks and the triggers are well done. The PS3 controller has the best D-pad period but the triggers are **** as is the analog stick placement and feel. Last but most important, all my friends have a 360 thus for any MP game, it's an easy choice.

Unless something dramatic happens, this gen, I'll be using the PS3 for exclusives only and BR. The majority of my gaming will be on the 360. Seeing that I've bought 14 games since launch for the 360 and 1 PS3 game that I traded in (Resistance) that's pretty clear.

My PS3 is exclusives-only. Achievements, controller, and 1080i support are the main reasons I always get multiplatform games on 360.

However, there are a few games I would get on the PS3 simply because it supports the G25. But no 1080i support is a killer.

I also try to use my 360 as little as possible, because I dont want it to break right before a good game comes out.

Stranglehold is the best example I can give. I'd buy it over the 360 version because the inclusion of Hard Boiled on Blu-Ray disc is of more value than achievements or online play. Outside of that, I can't think of a reason right now to buy a PS3 game over the 360 version. They usually run smoother and have better online play.

What is Hard Boiled? I may want to choose the PS3 version as well!

Well i am on my second 360. The second time it broke was during Bioshock and it kinda jaded me on the 360. I find it hard to go back to a game after a long break. I will wait for Home to really see what online experience i will stick with for multiplatform online games. With time i see myself getting more PS3 game because of the RROD issue and only because of that. Otherwise the 360 is a great console.

Didn't want to continually upgrade. Free Online. Build in BD. RROD.

I had my fun with 360 though COD2 , GOW, COD4 BETA.

I almost always purchase the 360 version. The few times I've gone with the PS3 versions, I've ended up disappointed with either poorer performance (F.E.A.R.) or stupid bugs (Guitar Heroes 3) that were not on the 360. I mostly prefer the 360 due to most of the things others have mentioned, but I think the main thing is the simple fact that my 360 has been rock solid, I like the controller much more, and I just like Xbox Live integration much more than the random put together feel you get from PSN.

I usually get the 360 version. But Dirt and Oblivion are better on the PS3. So for those 2, get the PS3 version.

And if the games come out at the same time, scan the reviews and pick out the better reviewed game.

It's a good time to get the PS3. The games are coming. And for $399, you get a good BD player with a bunch of movies. Aint the format wars grand? :D

The fact that I dont have to constantly worry about my PS3 bricking, thus leaving me unable to play my new $60 game carries some weight in my decision making.

Personally I could never return to a company that has done what M$ is doing with the 360. Your machine fries, send it in and have nothing for up to 6 weeks only to get a replacement machine that will probably fry again...rinse and repeat. No F'n way!

I posted this in the Xbox area.

Assassin's Creed: 360 or PS3???

I'm leaning towards 360 cuz of achievements and rumble.

But I'll wait til more reviews come out.

I avoided chiming in on this subject but I guess I'll comment:

Like many others I choose the 360 version over the PS3 for multiplatform games for several reasons:

1) Achievements
2) "Better" controller -feels heavy and solid - PS3's controller feels too light and fragile... my wii-mote is heavier and more solid than the PS3 controller
3) Xbox- live support (you get what you pay for... )
4) Rumble; this little feature is vital

A few side notes:

I have never had my LAUNCH DAY 360 brick on me - Not sure what you guys are doing...
My 7.1 DTS-EX surround system drowns out the fan noise of the 360.
My PS3 will be for exclusives... Final Fantasy Series and Metal Gear Solid
PS3 is a great blu-ray and up-converting DVD player...
I have the HD-DVD add-on for ... HD-DVD's (who'da thunk it? lol)

So to each their own. I actually bought COD4 for the 360 and rented the PS3 version from Gamefly. I noticed a few differences with the visuals, but nothing mind-blowing (the PS3 was sharper (hdmi) but the 360 offered more detail (vga) - Both are utilizing the same settings on a 46" 1080P Sammy)

To each their own, but I tend to support Micro$oft more than $ony... go figure...
Once $ony decides to take full advantage of the storage space a blu-ray disc has to offer, this may change...

Won't we start seeing more and more advantages of ps3 versions in the coming months as developers reach the limit of the DVD and start moving into BD territory for the size of the game content? I know I've heard of a couple games that are outside of the DVD realm already that are PS3 exclusives, and I can only imagine that more will come that will either end up PS3 exclusives because they can't fit on a DVD, or will be better on the PS3 because alot was cut for the 360.

Is that valid? Or will they just keep all content in the DVD size range so that they can release it for both systems and make more cash? Or maybe the 360 will start getting two disc versions? Or maybe they will pretty much "make" you get the HD DVD attachment by releasing HD DVD versions of the games?

I really hope they don't limit it anyway, so we can see some even better stuff than now!

Won't we start seeing more and more advantages of ps3 versions in the coming months as developers reach the limit of the DVD and start moving into BD territory for the size of the game content? I know I've heard of a couple games that are outside of the DVD realm already that are PS3 exclusives, and I can only imagine that more will come that will either end up PS3 exclusives because they can't fit on a DVD, or will be better on the PS3 because alot was cut for the 360.

Is that valid? Or will they just keep all content in the DVD size range so that they can release it for both systems and make more cash? Or maybe the 360 will start getting two disc versions? Or maybe they will pretty much "make" you get the HD DVD attachment by releasing HD DVD versions of the games?

I really hope they don't limit it anyway, so we can see some even better stuff than now!


Simple answer.....No

Won't we start seeing more and more advantages of ps3 versions in the coming months as developers reach the limit of the DVD and start moving into BD territory for the size of the game content? I know I've heard of a couple games that are outside of the DVD realm already that are PS3 exclusives, and I can only imagine that more will come that will either end up PS3 exclusives because they can't fit on a DVD, or will be better on the PS3 because alot was cut for the 360.

Is that valid? Or will they just keep all content in the DVD size range so that they can release it for both systems and make more cash? Or maybe the 360 will start getting two disc versions? Or maybe they will pretty much "make" you get the HD DVD attachment by releasing HD DVD versions of the games?

I really hope they don't limit it anyway, so we can see some even better stuff than now!

No, you won't because 360 owners don't have a problem switching discs in and out repeatedly.

No, you won't because 360 owners don't have a problem switching discs in and out repeatedly.

i almost always get the 360 version of a game because they're almost always the better version. all things being equal though (like call of duty 4), i still get the 360 version because of xbl.

I have a better friend list on the PS3 right now. For multi platform, multi player games I go with the PS3 for now. Something like Assassin's Creed SP only game, PS3 not so much.

No, you won't because 360 owners don't have a problem switching discs in and out repeatedly.

Yeah what he said. I guess that is a good reason too. Too many games to play on it. Yeah been an issue since day 1. Who would have thunk it.

I've had all MS and Sony consoles since their respective launch days.

Currently, I choose to play much more often on my PS3. I'll just bullet the reasons...
Hardware - I trust the Sony unit much more. It runs much quieter and the fan noise is barely audible. When I shut down the 360 and the fan goes off, it evokes a sigh of relief by my wife and me. (Also, this is my second unit-one replaced)
GUI - It took a bit, but I love the Sony XMB and find it much more functional and sleek then the Live interface. Live is very in-your-face graphically and is starting to feel slower and slower to me. It is also very limiting when trying to find information on Live. Most all the names of items are truncated and loading pages can be tedious. The PSN store is a pretty basic web-page design, but it is functional enough for now... and we know that is changing. The addition of the 2.0 themes for the XMB really adds a level of customization to your GUI that you'll never get on Live.
PSN is free - And I get MORE than I pay for. There is something that bothers me now that the PSN is out and has free online gaming that I still have to pay for Live. As we're seeing in CoD4, the quality of your online experience hinges much on what the developers do. So, when there are issues and I can't play games online... It is much more frustrating when it is on Live because I'm paying extra for that. Check the cod 360 forums and PS3 forums for all the online issues going on now.
More friends on PSN - Just the way it worked out... I have 20+ online and ready to play a mix of game on the PSN every night when I log in. On XBL it is about 7-9 and they're usually all playing Halo 3... And Halo doesn't keep me coming back.
Controller - I like symmetrical analog sticks... The analog controls are more responsive (less of a dead zone). It is lighter and I'm not afraid to drop it... It has motion sensing. The buttons are softer. The PS3 D-Pad is much, much better. The shooter "fire" button is correctly put where you index "trigger" finger lays (R1) and you don't have to use the same finger for both shoulder buttons. 90% of the time I turn off vibration on games, so having to wait until next year for rumble isn't a big deal to me. Although, I thought it was used really, really well in Bioshock on the 360.

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The two main negatives (for me) with the PS3 are listed below... but both of these issues are expected to be resolved... eventually.
In-game XMB Lacking - The cross game communication that Live has is a BIG bonus for Live... and that's how I justify paying still. But there are already games for the PS3 that enable all the same type of features of Live and those are the game developers I'll support anyway.
No Trophy System Yet - I think achievements are very cool but I don't like how people basically create a class system based on them... People assume you play games in a vacuum of Xbox only and tend to act superior when they have more "gamer points" then you. There are enough idiots online no matter where you go, but this seems to feed into it. We'll see how Sony's "Trophy" system works out, but I like the idea of you being in control of what awards and "achievements" you an show off and not having your gaming life distiled down to a number.Obviously games I want to check out like Bioshock, Lost Planet and even Halo 3 I pick up for the 360. But for games that are on both systems, I'll almost always go with the PS3 version... Even when a few of the ports have not been done well... the above reasons (mainly controller and friend's list) make me go with the PS3 versions.

I own a PS3 and a 360. I never ever choose the PS3 version over the 360 version. In almost all cases the PS3 version has a lower framerate or there are jaggies all over the place. Plus the 360 has achievements.

Pretty much the only good games for the PS3 are the first party titles. The rest of the games don't show what the hardware can do very well because they are terrible ports.

PSN is free - And I get MORE than I pay for. There is something that bothers me now that the PSN is out and has free online gaming that I still have to pay for Live. As we're seeing in CoD4, the quality of your online experience hinges much on what the developers do. So, when there are issues and I can't play games online... It is much more frustrating when it is on Live because I'm paying extra for that. Check the cod 360 forums and PS3 forums for all the online issues going on now.



Big difference with the issues when one is based on "confirmed maintenance updates, hint Fall update coming soon" and IW making a statement about not anticipating the amount of people online for the PS3 version. Especially when Europe came online.

Yeah what he said. I guess that is a good reason too. Too many games to play on it. Yeah been an issue since day 1. Who would have thunk it.

haha! nice :)

I own both systems, but if there is a multi-platform game then I think the PS3 has the audio advantage with lossless audio in their games. The soundtracks are definitely more dynamic than the XBox. I made a similar statement in the XBox section because somebody wanted opinions on which game to get and the fanboys over there flamed me and called me a liar about lossless audio. Wait for a review and buy what you want. As far as RRoD, I can't help but think about it all the time.

I myself am not a current PS3 owner but will become one once MGS4 and other games arrive.

I personally like all games regardless of system(similar to how stephen colbert does not see color).

So if you own both systems..whats the rationale behind the PS3 version? Do you like the controller better? Are load times better?

My perspective that I'm seeing is they release games for both systems and there is always this "but the ps3 has a framerate of x, or is missing this component". I know its a Cell processor..but you can't tell me that people can't make a decent port equal across platforms.

I just wanted the opinions on why one version over the other. Why would I want a PS3 Devil May Cry 4 over a 360 DMC4

***NOT INTENDED TO BE A FLAME-Own wii,xb360, ps3 in 08******

After 3 xbox2 no mas por favor....

i almost always get the 360 version of a game because they're almost always the better version. all things being equal though (like call of duty 4), i still get the 360 version because of xbl.
Do you even own a PS3? Troll alert...taliban is back...

Originally posted by mboojigga
The choice for me is all multiplatform games and exclsuvies for the 360. I only buy exclusives for the PS3.
As a 360/PS3 owner, what PS3 exclusives have you bought so far?

See these are the kind of responses I wanted. Its not who's console is better. Its why you choose. A poster previously said choice of word settle. I think I did make a misnomer on that. When I ment settle I meant to say what made you decide. I don't think you settle because one system is inferior to another. I think you settle on a decision.

Anyways I have to agree about the noise on the xbox 360. It sounds like 5 cd-rom drives spinning up simulataneously. I love the achievements of the xbox 360 but I think that the PS3 controller(being that its designed back on the ps1 controller) is an old dear friend and If I had a ps3 and I wanted precise controls I would definitely pick the ps3 controller over the xbox 360.

The thing I notice at this junction is the online. I feel that the PS3 free network has sooo much potential but that 3rd party developers really cripple it. I mean look at you call of duty 4 folks. I know there was a debate on well if i bought it today I should be able to play it today. I totally agree. You don't buy something in the now with expectation of the later. I'll buy a car..but until they get the gas right..I'll just leave it parked.

Don't you PS3 owners ever feel shafted by this online stuff? I've read warhawk nightmare stories and other sports games. Its just like..if I paid 60 dollars for it on ps3 it should be the same 60 dollars that the xbox 360 cost but the effort in the title and structure should be identical.(yes I know live is a pay service).

I think topics like this need to occure more often. We spend so much time playing that its good to have a comparision or wonder why we pick x over y instead of the flame wars about this selling that or this service has better lag-free.

Thanks to all the posters. Its really interesting reading.

For me this discussion boils down to one simple thing.


I refuse to plunk down $60 for an Xbox360 game when I know at any given moment my console could die, and I'd be without the ability to play that game for the next month. I have no idea how people can continue to invest in this machine as we see a record breaking failure rate the likes of which has never been seen before in the industry.


I still own my launch 360 unit, and it seems to works just fine besides being noisy as all hell. But that hasn't stopped me from seeing the problem for what it is. I've had great luck, but I'm not dumb enough to think that it will never happen to me. It will, whenever my system is bit by the defective hardware design. It's happened to numerous friends of mine, and I'm the last one standing.


So, in recent months I've begun buying all multiplatform games on the PS3. Unless for some reason the PS3 version has major problems, that is. The truth is, a lot of Xbox fanboys have tried to push the opinion out there that ALL PS3 ports have problems, but that is simply not the case. In recent months the PS3 versions of games have almost always been exact or near exact replicas of the 360 version. Early PS3 ports had problems, big deal. Those days are behind us, and from here on out I don't see that stuff being a concern, unless the fanboys want to create "problems" to tell the world about.


Not to mention, I see a distinct possibility of me getting rid of my 360 all together at some point. I really think that machine peaked this fall, and after this it's all down hill from here. I can personally only think of one game that I would certainly want to buy on their system next year. Gears of War 2. Beyond that, I don't have a clue what would interest me. With the PS3 I could name 10 exclusive games right now that will be out in the next 12 months that interest me. I just think the PS3 has the brighter, and longer future ahead of it. Oh yeah, and I'm supposed to pony up $50 a year to keep playing games online. Again, another piece of the money pit that is the 360. So if I ever want to stop paying that yearly fee, I'm told I can no longer play multiplayer games on the system. That is lame, and buying games like COD4 on my PS3 means I'll never have to worry about that.

I own a PS3 and a 360. I never ever choose the PS3 version over the 360 version. In almost all cases the PS3 version has a lower framerate or there are jaggies all over the place. Plus the 360 has achievements.

Pretty much the only good games for the PS3 are the first party titles. The rest of the games don't show what the hardware can do very well because they are terrible ports.

You are exaggerating quite a bit here. A year ago this might have been true, but currently most cross-platform games are similar on both systems, with the notable exception being EA games. Games like Oblivion, Dirt, CoD4 and Assassin's Creed are supposed to run at least as well on the PS3 as on the 360.

1080P
7.1 surround
blu ray (longer games not 4 hour games like xbox)
ken kutagrai
piano black
cures cancer
bluetooth capabalities
online gaming experiences is fun
warhawk
resisitance
metal gear solid 4

I have both systems. To me it depends on the game and how I hear it runs on either system. I bought COD4 for the PS3 but I was in the beta on the 360. I thought I'd show my PS3 some love since I had been playing Madden & Halo 3 on my 360.

I'm also on my 3rd 360 and I'm dreading the fall update. My last RROD happened a couple of days after the spring update.

1080P
7.1 surround
blu ray (longer games not 4 hour games like xbox)
ken kutagrai
piano black
cures cancer
bluetooth capabalities
online gaming experiences is fun
warhawk
resisitance
metal gear solid 4

"blu ray (longer games not 4 hour games like xbox)"

How many hours was Heavenly Sword and Ratchet & Clank? I beat both of them and remember them both being shorter then the last 360 game I played. (Bio-Shock)

The Blu-Ray space advantage is still waiting to be proving in real world games.

As a 360/PS3 owner, what PS3 exclusives have you bought so far?

Ninja Gaiden Sigma and got Motorstorm for free with the 80gig

Big difference with the issues when one is based on "confirmed maintenance updates, hint Fall update coming soon" and IW making a statement about not anticipating the amount of people online for the PS3 version. Especially when Europe came online.

I'm not sure I understand... I've been following both console's online issues and they seem to come back to IW/Activision and NOT the PSN or Live services.

See here:
BOARDS -> COD4:MW 360 (http://charlieoscardelta.com/board/viewforum.php?f=25)

Sticky: 'Player Kicked' or 'Lobby Closed' Messages (http://charlieoscardelta.com/board/viewtopic.php?t=77815)

Connection Interrupted all the time.... (http://charlieoscardelta.com/board/viewtopic.php?t=77778)

See? This is why COD4 blew its chance at Game of the Year -- online FAILURES (http://charlieoscardelta.com/board/viewtopic.php?t=78194)

Poll:Have you had connection problems with CoD4:MW on LIVE? (86% - YES) (http://charlieoscardelta.com/board/viewtopic.php?t=76425)

multiplayer stability is not good (http://charlieoscardelta.com/board/viewtopic.php?t=78215)

Epic Lag and problems connecting? (http://charlieoscardelta.com/board/viewtopic.php?t=78162)

Id Love to play Xbox Live before I Die (http://charlieoscardelta.com/board/viewtopic.php?t=73939)

Anonymity is such a great excuse for racism it appears (http://charlieoscardelta.com/board/viewtopic.php?t=78118)

Connection problems with friends (http://charlieoscardelta.com/board/viewtopic.php?t=77262)

Why can't I play online? (http://charlieoscardelta.com/board/viewtopic.php?t=77047)


Very similar to what happens on the PS3 side... I think the free PSN and the pay-for Xbox Live are NOT at fault in this instance.

(...)
ken kutagrai
piano black
(...)
warhawk
resisitance
metal gear solid 4
Excuse me, did you say you preferred to buy the PS3 version of a generic unspecified title because the console is black, and because Ken Kutaragi simply exists (despite having stepped down from his position)? And you then further provided the names of some random games? I think you missed the point.

I think the most convincing things that people have said above are about extras not found in the other version. As one of the earlier posters noted, the PS3 version of Stranglehold has a serious advantage in terms of having a separate Blu-Ray movie bundled in with the title.

Excuse me, did you say you preferred to buy the PS3 version of a generic unspecified title because the console is black, and because Ken Kutaragi simply exists (despite having stepped down from his position)? And you then further provided the names of some random games? I think you missed the point.


Don't take any of that guy's posts seriously. Read some of his other posts if you if are in the mood for a laugh. He has been impersonating a rabid Sony fanboy for at least the past year.

I'm not sure I understand... I've been following both console's online issues and they seem to come back to IW/Activision and NOT the PSN or Live services.

See here:
BOARDS -> COD4:MW 360 (http://charlieoscardelta.com/board/viewforum.php?f=25)

Sticky: 'Player Kicked' or 'Lobby Closed' Messages (http://charlieoscardelta.com/board/viewtopic.php?t=77815)

Connection Interrupted all the time.... (http://charlieoscardelta.com/board/viewtopic.php?t=77778)

See? This is why COD4 blew its chance at Game of the Year -- online FAILURES (http://charlieoscardelta.com/board/viewtopic.php?t=78194)

Poll:Have you had connection problems with CoD4:MW on LIVE? (86% - YES) (http://charlieoscardelta.com/board/viewtopic.php?t=76425)

multiplayer stability is not good (http://charlieoscardelta.com/board/viewtopic.php?t=78215)

Epic Lag and problems connecting? (http://charlieoscardelta.com/board/viewtopic.php?t=78162)

Id Love to play Xbox Live before I Die (http://charlieoscardelta.com/board/viewtopic.php?t=73939)

Anonymity is such a great excuse for racism it appears (http://charlieoscardelta.com/board/viewtopic.php?t=78118)

Connection problems with friends (http://charlieoscardelta.com/board/viewtopic.php?t=77262)

Why can't I play online? (http://charlieoscardelta.com/board/viewtopic.php?t=77047)


Very similar to what happens on the PS3 side... I think the free PSN and the pay-for Xbox Live are NOT at fault in this instance.

You have seen all those but haven't looked at the official statement by IW. Also, the official statement by MS?

The same thing that is happening on Live is the same thing that happened when Halo 3 released. Plus they stated doing Maintenance work for MS(which affected all of Live. The difference that is happening on PSN is what IW stated, they basically didn't anticipate the amount of users with the servers they are providing.

Also all those threads about not connecting are no different then daily complaints about not connecting which sometimes deals with the owners ISP as being an issue or other factors they are trying to play wireless. I have not had problems on either system. I have only had the PS3 for 2 weeks and the only issue I had was initially getting connected. I can't believe how much work was involved just to have the PS3 seen. I got to a point of seeing the IP address and no internet. I basically had to start everything from scratch and got it up and had no problems since. Updated to 1.84 I think that night and then the next night 2.00 came. Some of those complaints about not connecting is no different then complaints on why I have no internet at 4 in the afternoon and calling up the Sudden Link to tell me instead of getting a heads up that they are doing maintenance in my area should be back up shortly.

You have seen all those but haven't looked at the official statement by IW. Also, the official statement by MS?

The same thing that is happening on Live is the same thing that happened when Halo 3 released. Plus they stated doing Maintenance work for MS(which affected all of Live. The difference that is happening on PSN is what IW stated, they basically didn't anticipate the amount of users with the servers they are providing.

Also all those threads about not connecting are no different then daily complaints about not connecting which sometimes deals with the owners ISP as being an issue or other factors they are trying to play wireless. I have not had problems on either system. I have only had the PS3 for 2 weeks and the only issue I had was initially getting connected. I can't believe how much work was involved just to have the PS3 seen. I got to a point of seeing the IP address and no internet. I basically had to start everything from scratch and got it up and had no problems since. Updated to 1.84 I think that night and then the next night 2.00 came. Some of those complaints about not connecting is no different then complaints on why I have no internet at 4 in the afternoon and calling up the Sudden Link to tell me instead of getting a heads up that they are doing maintenance in my area should be back up shortly.
I don't think you're taking into account the fact that users of both these systems can currently game flawlessly on other PSN or Live titles. There was some scheduled downtime on the PSN, yes... that's different... There was some Xbox Live maintenance too (and some Live issues they admitted to)... That's still another thing...

There are CoD4 specific problems people are having and they are occurring while the console online services are UP & RUNNING across the board. People that have been gaming online for a long time (or are parts of groups or clans that play a lot) can be extremely certain about whether or not their setup is right for online gaming... because they play a lot. They can also jump on other games to see if other games on the Live or PSN service are working.

...and that was just a small selection of the complaint threads (and only on the 360 side). Their party system is jacked, matchmaking is having issues, and even IW says that "they" are working on it.

But no matter the issue... People on BOTH consoles are having issues... The PS3 folks started out louder, now the 360 people seem to be screaming more... But with regards the topic of comparison in this thread, having the option to deal with these issues on the PC or PS3 FOR FREE, is no doubt preferable to dealing with the same issues on a pay service.

i usually go for the 360 version solely for the achievements.

I did own a 360 but not anymore. I only own a PS3, and it does pisses me off that the PS3 version of multiplatform games are the lowest common denominator. Also, I find the 360 controls better suited when it comes to multiplatform games.

What a dumb freaking thread - couldn't you have searched ANY other AVS thread, website, blog, <insert name of ANY tech/game related website here>?

I now choose all PS3 versions because i try to stay away from MS products.

My PS3 is exclusives-only. Achievements, controller, and 1080i support are the main reasons I always get multiplatform games on 360.

However, there are a few games I would get on the PS3 simply because it supports the G25. But no 1080i support is a killer.

So Sony hasn't resolved the 1080i issue yet? I've been looking for an answer to this but cannot find it.

I know if a game supports 1080i it will display fine on a 1080i TV, but do games that are 1080p also display OK on a 1080i TV?

Blu-ray. I just love HD movies and the games were a added bonus. I didn't want to pay at the time for a 360 and a HDDVD add-on(no hdmi @ the time). I don't like add-ons.

I did own a 360 but not anymore. I only own a PS3, and it does pisses me off that the PS3 version of multiplatform games are the lowest common denominator. Also, I find the 360 controls better suited when it comes to multiplatform games.
That's rapidly starting to change. The PS3 versions of CoD4 and Unreal Tournament are really top notch. UT even gets mod support and Keyboard and Mouse support. GRAW2 and DiRT were improved over the 360. Simpsons, Conan and some others seems to be as good (or bad) as on any other platform. Lego Star Wars is another example were the PS3 is getting a good version.

People are really having to nitpick the recent games to to find something bad about the PS3 versions.

That's rapidly starting to change. The PS3 versions of CoD4 and Unreal Tournament are really top notch. UT even gets mod support and Keyboard and Mouse support. GRAW2 and DiRT were improved over the 360. Simpsons, Conan and some others seems to be as good (or bad) as on any other platform. Lego Star Wars is another example were the PS3 is getting a good version.

People are really having to nitpick the recent games to to find something bad about the PS3 versions.

Awx, what is different on GRAW2 for the PS3? I have it on the 360 (no longer have a 360 though, fried). I don't care about the single player using the different engine but what are the difference in the online plus the missions (the ones you can play with others) using the same engine.

1. I don't own a 360
2. I like the controller better (even if I had a 360)
3. I want to support the system that I personally consider to be better, hence #1.

DITTO, my PS brother!

Awx, what is different on GRAW2 for the PS3? I have it on the 360 (no longer have a 360 though, fried). I don't care about the single player using the different engine but what are the difference in the online plus the missions (the ones you can play with others) using the same engine.
The cross-com camera shake is supposed to be a lot less intrusive in SP. MP includes both of the map packs the 360 users had to purchase. They complained and ended up getting refunds or something. On the downside, the PS3 doesn't have a chat icon displayed but voice support is top notch (much clearer and stable than even CoD4, light years ahead of R6V on PS3).

The cross-com camera shake is supposed to be a lot less intrusive in SP. MP includes both of the map packs the 360 users had to purchase. They complained and ended up getting refunds or something. On the downside, the PS3 doesn't have a chat icon displayed but voice support is top notch (much clearer and stable than even CoD4, light years ahead of R6V on PS3).

Thanks awx. Good to hear on the chat as well.

The cross-com camera shake is supposed to be a lot less intrusive in SP. MP includes both of the map packs the 360 users had to purchase. They complained and ended up getting refunds or something. On the downside, the PS3 doesn't have a chat icon displayed but voice support is top notch (much clearer and stable than even CoD4, light years ahead of R6V on PS3).

However, on the PS3 version the cross cam PIP screen (upper left) renders a very jaggy and lower resolution image than does the 360 version...

On the PS3, that PIP image looks worse than a PS2 game... On the 360 it is a clear image. (I'm talking online here, not offline)

When you go to your full screen cross-cam, it looks very nice and clean on the PS3.

The PS3 version also has very robust options for use of the SIXAXIS, including leaning, diving, rolling, sniping, etc, etc... Some may find uses for some or all of them... others may turn of SIXAXIS completely.

360 is better gaming system if you played alot then get a 360 (assume no rrod on your console). PS3 is a better investment for casual gamer like me. I only played COD4 FPS, sick of all other genre, PS3 was surprising good for COD 4. I have no regret making the switch.

As I get older I am moving toward movie entertainment instead of gaming so blu-ray and no fee online is a perfect matched for me.

However, on the PS3 version the cross cam PIP screen (upper left) renders a very jaggy and lower resolution image than does the 360 version...
Yeah, the PIP cross-com is pretty jaggy on the PS3 in MP. In single player it's very good.

Eternal Sonata is another game that's supposed to be getting a good improvement on the PS3 over the 360. Besides the extra quests and things, the PS3 version will be on a single Blu-ray disc rather than 3 DVDs.

Just to add, if the games get released at the same time, I usually get the PS3 version just because we like the PS3 joystick better, and it is a quieter system. However, if they are released at the same time and one system puts the game on special, we will buy the cheaper one.

However, if the game is noticeable better on the 360 for whatever reason, we will get the 360 version.

We have all the systems, so it doesn't matter to us which system we buy a game for.

I get the the 360 version for achievements and all my friends have one. I don't know another person that has a PS3.

I'm sure once developers are able to tap into the power of the PS3 we will see many, many exclusive titles. Until then, I stick to my 360 for most new releases. (Achievement points are addictive... and they give you a sense of accomplishment when playing the game.)

Then again, who really cares... If we as consumers, buy crap then the developers will continue to feed us crap regardless of hardware.

It seems that AVS is falling into the "fan-boy/girl playground" more and more these days.
Whatever happen to the "Science" in AVS?

I let this ride for a bit...

Bottom line, the answer comes down to personal opinion. Try forming one of your own.

Take care,

Kyser