http://www.startrek.com/startrek/view/news/article/2308573.html

Just a reminder.

The Paramount pre-screening of the Star Trek TOS Remastered episode (promotion event for the HD DVD/Combo release) is tonight and Thursday at selected theaters around the country.



main info (http://www.startrek.com/startrek/view/news/article/2308573.html)


theater locations (http://www.fathomevents.com/news/default.aspx?newsid=72)


event synopsis (http://www.fathomevents.com/details.aspx?eventid=685&utm_source=StarTrekwebsite&utm_medium=banner&utm_campaign=Star_Trek)



(Mods please forgive double post in both the HD DVD software and hardware forums, as event is tonight and Thursday)

I was just about to post on this. ;)

I do have a question for anyone that is able to go to this. Let us know if they do a nice preview for the set and if it differs from what is on Startrek.com. I have been curious to know if they are really going to be pushing the HD side at this event (which I imagine they should be doing).

I wish I could go but unfortunately I work a swing shift so no luck for me.

Thx 4 the heads up!

Anyone who attends , can you please post observations on the event?

So you have to buy tickets through the site? I can't just show up?

I saw Razor last night. it looked decent enough. Not like a film, or DLP but decent.

It's not letting me order tickets - it's as if the drop down menu isn't working. Edit: I probably have to join the site.

I ordered tickets through moviefone.com - fandango.com also can order tickets, but they didn't cover the theater I wanted to go to, or it was already "sold out" for fandango (there was no buy link)

I'll be at the AMC Northpark 15 in Dallas with my friend :) I'll have on an Urban Terror (http://www.urbanterror.net) tshirt and wearing jeans with holes in the knees :P

I got the HD DVD set today for review :D Guess what I am watching tonight!

I got the HD DVD set today for review :D Guess what I am watching tonight!

Can't wait!! Does the case really look as cool as I think it does?

Case is OK but the video quality is outstanding! The encoding is AVC. I've only watched one episode and one of the interactive features.

Case is OK but the video quality is outstanding! The encoding is AVC. I've only watched one episode and one of the interactive features.

Interesting. Why AVC? For a project of this magnitude, you'd think they'd go VC-1 for the faster encoding.

OK just got back from this.

First of all the theater was too hot, we're talking 100 degrees with humidity; and the audience laughed way too much (yeah I know it is cheesy, but this is event is for hardcore fans, isn't it?).

First off; the theater did not stretch the image to fill the entire screen, but instead projected the image on maybe a 130" area of the screen. In addition the audio seemed like basic stereo, no multiplexing, and all coming from the front of the theater with the volume just a bit too low...I would have expected a theater to be better equipped...or wasn't it up to them?

The picture quality was fantastic. The colors were super rich and the film leftovers are nowhere to be found. there was this strange shadowing/double image effect going on around many of the actors, but I would think this to be particular to the theater I went to.

If you have a decent home thater you will likely have better results than what I saw. It was great though.

There was an introduction by Eugen Roddenberry..nothing special. There was a bit of a to-do about some additional behind the scenes content being added, mostly Billy Blackburn footage. They also had plenty of snippets from season one and season 2 on HD-DVD (The Doomsday Machine looks wild).

Lots of hype for the the hybrid discs that it will come on as well...now that players are $100 do hybrids have a future?

Still tough to justify the expense of the season 1 box set but it not by much.

I have trouble with the new CGI for the Enterprise after having seen Star Trek Enterprise in HD. The older model ship just looks better, more detailed...

and the audience laughed way too much (yeah I know it is cheesy, but this is event is for hardcore fans, isn't it?).


I have noticed this too. It's like because it's a "special event" it gives them license to talk and be rude. Happened at Star Trek 2 a few years ago and most recently at an atrocious video showing of The Birds here at the Angelika in Plano.

Glad your video quality looked good.

I had seen the TOS box set demo on a 50 plasma at CEDIA and was impressed.

Not so much impressed tonight but my audience loved it.

I was actually fairly disappointed in the picture. The main feature good but not as bright asa I have seen it, and the black of space was only dark grey. Big theater and it looked like the screen was to big for the lumens they were pushing.

Don't think anyone really noticed that except me though.

The season 2 demo at the end looked great though.

First time I saw the phrase SD/HD DVD combo before.

I figure it's 'cause "everyone" has seen it, they're all comfortable familiar with it, so they don't feel like they're doing anything more than watching it in their living room.

I think the AMC was projecting it at 720P, didn't look 1080 at all. Too much aliasing and the pixels were fairly large. Plus, while it was sized to vertically fill the screen it was just a bit off center and slightly keystoned, but that's cause it wasn't done with D-Cinema but their "slideshow" ad projector. Still quite enjoyable.

edit..
Didn't see Kosty's post when I started typing. My theater the black was black, not grey (or close enough I wouldn't call it grey) but things seemed to fall into 'black' a hair too soon. Brightness was fine.

Also, it was HD/SD DVD Combo IIRC, not the other way around :)
..edit

I was amazed how much they plugged the HD DVD release coming out, that was awesome. I heard someone wonder aloud if they were going to be releasing it, and I told them it's coming out on HD DVD/DVD combo soon, this was before the show began, so now everyone will know :)

I just got back from River East in Chicago. Talk about lame! The projector seemed to have a native 4:3 resolution, and the entire possible image was projected onto the 1.85:1 screen. But the content was 16:9, letterboxed inside that native 4:3, and then of course, the episode was pillarboxed to 4:3 inside that 16:9 image. So as a result, the image was substantially smaller than it should have been, with a huge black border all the way around.

Also, I think Mancow was there. He's lame too.

As a Blu-ray supporter, I will say that I would seriously consider going neutral simply for this series – it was that good.

As mentioned, the PQ was outstanding. In preparation for the event I watched the SD DVD and this completely blew it away.

The audio left something to be desired however… while the intro spends plenty of time talking about the work done on the video, nothing is mentioned of audio improvements and it shows. In my theatre it was fair decent (if not surround) except during the ‘commercial breaks’ – it would momentarily crescendo so loud that people were openly complaining about it during the show.

It sounds like they plugged HD a lot which is good - I think this was a smart way to market the new release. I wonder if the ranking on the set is going to go up tomorrow on Amazon because of this. I heard that it was a lot of fun as there was a bit of laughter on certain parts that normally you may not have really laughed at so much watching it alone.

I attended a viewing tonight with my father and brother-in-law.

The picture was a tad dark, but otherwise looked fantastic.

The audience was laughing as well. Lots of Trekkies abound. I'm guessing that it was indeed a comfort with the material. Considering the tickets were $12.50 I don't think people were there to simply lampoon it.

The sound was stereo here as well.

The projector needed keystone correction, but I've come to expect that out of any local theater. :rolleyes:

I agree that the doomsday weapon was fantastic looking, and had a good chuckle at the Tribbles. :)

Mr Zoid

Case is OK but the video quality is outstanding! The encoding is AVC. I've only watched one episode and one of the interactive features.

Oh you evil evil man, you're going to get me to drop $130 on a blind buy! :mad:

Oh you evil evil man, you're going to get me to drop $130 on a blind buy! :mad:

blind buy - for the love of ........not one episode ?

the cases for the last release sucked too
I finally pre-ordered the HD set , can't wait , but missed this showing
bad presentation aside it sounded fun

Yeah thinking back, I do think they called it an HD/SD DVD combo set.

Just heard from a friend who went 50 miles in another direction to see it.

He said the black level was good and the picture sharper than what I saw. THey were using the ad projector for this event, he was sure of that. He also said there was a bit of conversation after the event on buying the new boxed set and th HD DVD phaser remote deal.

I think if you see it at a smaller theater than I saw, the picture would be better.

The event is also going on Thursday night.

I saw it in an AMC muliplex. If they used the ad projector, as some have reported, then it may account for much of the image disappointment. I found the projected image so dark that there was no shadow detail whatsoever. The live action looked horrible. Also, there was absolutely no grain visible, which leads me to suspect that the resolution was filtered down in this presentation, as someone said above. I sure hope the disks look a lot better than this!

EE
EE
EE
EE
EE! :mad:
Can't believe it!
First shot I thought I noticed it was Spock being lead off the bridge. Along their pants as they exited. So I was looking for it in the next scene w/Kirk transporting onto the Enterprise. Wasn't as sure as they were materializing; however after stepping off, saw it along their pants as well. So next scene I know its there & yep its along the table tops as well as the blk boxes on the tables. Then I see it in closeups as well. Then everywhere. Done deal! :(

EE
EE
EE
EE
EE! :mad:
Can't believe it!
First shot I thought I noticed it was Spock being lead off the bridge. Along their pants as they exited. So I was looking for it in the next scene w/Kirk transporting onto the Enterprise. Wasn't as sure as they were materializing; however after stepping off, saw it along their pants as well. So next scene I know its there & yep its along the table tops as well as the blk boxes on the tables. Then I see it in closeups as well. Then everywhere. Done deal! :(

Wow, that would certainly kill any interest I'd have in blind buying this set. It will be interesting to see if Dave reports EE on the HD-DVDs.

I saw it in an AMC muliplex. If they used the ad projector, as some have reported, then it may account for much of the image disappointment. I found the projected image so dark that there was no shadow detail whatsoever. The live action looked horrible. Also, there was absolutely no grain visible, which leads me to suspect that the resolution was filtered down in this presentation, as someone said above. I sure hope the disks look a lot better than this! They do. :D

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-9066498597395067899&q=Star+Trek+TOS+remastered+HD+DVD&total=1&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=0

I saw the is video on a 50 in HDTV at CEDIA and loved it.

Ithoght it was a on a plasma but since it was at the Toshiba booth I was tlod it probably was a 50 in Regza LCD HDTV.

It looks even better than this video link suggests.:)

I saw it in an AMC muliplex. If they used the ad projector, as some have reported, then it may account for much of the image disappointment. I found the projected image so dark that there was no shadow detail whatsoever. The live action looked horrible. Also, there was absolutely no grain visible, which leads me to suspect that the resolution was filtered down in this presentation, as someone said above. I sure hope the disks look a lot better than this! I think the ad projectors don't have enough oomph to do the image justice on the larger screens.

My freinds who saw it on a smaller screen thought the image was great. You and I who saw it on larger screens thought it looked washed out and dark. Right?

I din't notice any when I saw the demo loop 27 times during CEDIA. ( I jest...... slightly)

Even with EE, this would be far the best TOS has ever looked and as a Trek fan, I''m a sucker for the whole set. But I hope not.

I think most of use will have better displays than the ad projectors pushing it out on a big screen.

I saw jaggies on the titles/credits & pixels on the screen.
Was that the projector?
Thanks.

Kosty -- yes, very dark. Interestingly, TheDigitalBits is reporting today that the HD-DVD set is also "underwhelming" in video quality.

I think most of use will have better displays than the ad projectors pushing it out on a big screen.

Does the projector add (pun intended) EE?
Thx.

The inbareassing part for them, has to be the pre restoration looks better than the post restoration in their own demo!
Skin tones look more natural (light) & less muddy (think: fake tan or caked makeup); while the Captains uniform looks more bright yellow gold pre than sickly green gold post.

Kosty -- yes, very dark. Interestingly, TheDigitalBits is reporting today that the HD-DVD set is also "underwhelming" in video quality.

Had the same transfer been Blu Ray exclusive I'm sure it would have looked great.

I got the HD DVD set today for review :D Guess what I am watching tonight!

Bastard! :)