Well I've been sticking to Hard Drums so far. Want to go through and beat every song before I attempt an Expert run.

I guess we'll find out in a couple of days (I should have them on Wednesday).

Hi Guys,

I've seen a number of posts where people state the RB2 instruments will be compatible with GHWT. So my question is, will the RB1 instruments be compatible? Thanks.

Hi Guys,

I've seen a number of posts where people state the RB2 instruments will be compatible with GHWT. So my question is, will the RB1 instruments be compatible? Thanks.

Yes.

Can you use the PS3 RB1 drums on the XBox 360 RB2 by any chance?

Can you use the PS3 RB1 drums on the XBox 360 RB2 by any chance?

sorry nope. one exception is that you'll be able to buy separate brains for the ion kit for each system if you wanted.

sorry nope. one exception is that you'll be able to buy separate brains for the ion kit for each system if you wanted.Thanks for the info. Of course, I could have tried to see if it worked myself, but my son won't stop destroying everything in the "Incredible Hulk" game. Very silly looking game.

I never played the drums too much in RB. I guess I'll try the GH WT drums first before I consider the "ion" kit.

Hey guys:

Amazon is apparently selling MS Points at 20% off. No idea how long the sale will go on, but I'd thought I'd pass this along so folks can jump on it while it lasts. Note that the details say it could be as long as 3-5 weeks until they deign to ship it. However, since it's free money, the 20% off is still a good deal. :D

They're selling the 1600 points for $16 (instead of $20), and 4000 points for $40 (instead of $50).

http://astore.amazon.com/altgn-20/detail/B000B9RI14/002-0829624-6116010

To get the 4000 point one to show up at the discounted price, I had to go here:

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B000NDRT62/

AND then look to the lower right to see the discounted "More Buying Choices" option for $39.97. Add that one to your cart and then check your cart to see it in detail.

If your order is at least $25, you get free shipping.

Anyone else notice the Ratt song "Round and Round" has a different take of the guitar solo then the album? IIRC, one of the Boston songs has a different vocal section too.

Its cool to hear different things in familiar songs.

Hey guys:

Amazon is apparently selling MS Points at 20% off. No idea how long the sale will go on, but I'd thought I'd pass this along so folks can jump on it while it lasts. Note that the details say it could be as long as 3-5 weeks until they deign to ship it. However, since it's free money, the 20% off is still a good deal. :D

They're selling the 1600 points for $16 (instead of $20), and 4000 points for $40 (instead of $50).

http://astore.amazon.com/altgn-20/detail/B000B9RI14/002-0829624-6116010

To get the 4000 point one to show up at the discounted price, I had to go here:

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B000NDRT62/

AND then look to the lower right to see the discounted "More Buying Choices" option for $39.97. Add that one to your cart and then check your cart to see it in detail.

If your order is at least $25, you get free shipping.

Thanks! Just bought another 4000 points.

Drop it or remap the note to another pad? I would make more sense to remap the note so you're still playing something.
They're going to remap the orange cymbal to blue and green and treat them like Rock Band treats them: blue for ride and green for crash cymbal. Still don't know how they're going to do open/closed hi-hat (probably both stay on yellow) and if the Rock Band cymbals will be treated differently in Guitar Hero (my guess is not.)

Hey guys:

Amazon is apparently selling MS Points at 20% off. No idea how long the sale will go on, but I'd thought I'd pass this along so folks can jump on it while it lasts. Note that the details say it could be as long as 3-5 weeks until they deign to ship it. However, since it's free money, the 20% off is still a good deal. :D

They're selling the 1600 points for $16 (instead of $20), and 4000 points for $40 (instead of $50).

http://astore.amazon.com/altgn-20/detail/B000B9RI14/002-0829624-6116010

To get the 4000 point one to show up at the discounted price, I had to go here:

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B000NDRT62/

AND then look to the lower right to see the discounted "More Buying Choices" option for $39.97. Add that one to your cart and then check your cart to see it in detail.

If your order is at least $25, you get free shipping.

Good looking out. Grabbed the 4000.

I still haven't decided on the ION. I've been trying to decide on a video card for my PC and that's going to run me around $200. I don't really want to spend the money on both. I may just run my RB1 drums into the ground and then get the ion. My drumsoft pads are finally showing some wear, mostly on the yellow pad. I was planning on getting the RB2 set when it comes next month, but if I get the ion set there's no point except the guitar.

Thanks for 4k points card info. I've been waiting for another Target sale to stock up.

So I'm loving my Ions, but I'm not digging whacking the yellow cymbal. I think I'm going to try and cancel my third cymbal order and think about it. I love having a cymbal there to whack for the hi-hats, but the pure awsomeness of the Ion drum pads is revealing the true "less than awesomeness" of the Ion cymbals. I don't know. Maybe I'll look for a used Roland whatever like some other poster was talking about that works but is "hot". (might've been on the RockBand boards where I read that.)

The Ion cymbal is fine for the green where you whack it once in a while, but the constant beat on the hi-hat is starting to irritate me. I don't know. I repositioned everthing again and got the red pad between my legs with the yellow cymbal up to the left and raised the toms across the top, and I'm very happy with the setup. (HINT: switch the L-bar on the drums so that the short end is connected to the drum head. It gives you tons more range with positioning the drum pads.) It took a couple of tries with the hi-hat and the yellow tom so that I wasn't knocking my sticks together on the Red/yellow beats, but I've got it in a pretty good spot now.

And that hard clacky yellow cymbal isn't awsome.

I'll give it more time.

On another note...is the timing window bigger on RB2 drums than it was on RB1, or did I have a crappy calibration on RB1? Or are these Ion drums just that super-awesome...because it seems like I have all freaking day to hit the notes now and the game seems easier. I'm jamming on hard drums and actually keeping up on quite nicely on quite a few expert songs. I'm thinking it has to be a begger timing window or else the calibration thing. It certainly could be the cal since the RB1 routine was pretty crappy. In any event, I'm digging the Ion drums on RB2 with the new cal routine.

Thanks for 4k points card info. I've been waiting for another Target sale to stock up.

So I'm loving my Ions, but I'm not digging whacking the yellow cymbal. I think I'm going to try and cancel my third cymbal order and think about it. I love having a cymbal there to whack for the hi-hats, but the pure awsomeness of the Ion drum pads is revealing the true "less than awesomeness" of the Ion cymbals. I don't know. Maybe I'll look for a used Roland whatever like some other poster was talking about that works but is "hot". (might've been on the RockBand boards where I read that.)

The Ion cymbal is fine for the green where you whack it once in a while, but the constant beat on the hi-hat is starting to irritate me. I don't know. I repositioned everthing again and got the red pad between my legs with the yellow cymbal up to the left and raised the toms across the top, and I'm very happy with the setup. (HINT: switch the L-bar on the drums so that the short end is connected to the drum head. It gives you tons more range with positioning the drum pads.) It took a couple of tries with the hi-hat and the yellow tom so that I wasn't knocking my sticks together on the Red/yellow beats, but I've got it in a pretty good spot now.

And that hard clacky yellow cymbal isn't awsome.

I'll give it more time.

On another note...is the timing window bigger on RB2 drums than it was on RB1, or did I have a crappy calibration on RB1? Or are these Ion drums just that super-awesome...because it seems like I have all freaking day to hit the notes now and the game seems easier. I'm jamming on hard drums and actually keeping up on quite nicely on quite a few expert songs. I'm thinking it has to be a begger timing window or else the calibration thing. It certainly could be the cal since the RB1 routine was pretty crappy. In any event, I'm digging the Ion drums on RB2 with the new cal routine.

HMX said they didn't change any of teh timing windows. It really is teh proper calibration doing it's thing.

If you haven't made the move on RB2 yet:

http://slickdeals.net/permadeal/14015

RB2 (game only) and 1600 MS points for $60 from Amazon.

I don't know how many of you have played "Visions" but that was clearly added for the GH crowd. That has got to be the worst thing I've ever heard, it was just noise. I could see it being FC'ed on vocals though.

I don't know how many of you have played "Visions" but that was clearly added for the GH crowd. That has got to be the worst thing I've ever heard, it was just noise. I could see it being FC'ed on vocals though.

its a joke and is someone at HMX's band. It may not be a joke to be in the game, but it is certainly a joke to me and im huge on early death metal.

If you haven't made the move on RB2 yet:

http://slickdeals.net/permadeal/14015

RB2 (game only) and 1600 MS points for $60 from Amazon.

Sold! Thanks for the tip.

On another note...is the timing window bigger on RB2 drums than it was on RB1, or did I have a crappy calibration on RB1? Or are these Ion drums just that super-awesome...because it seems like I have all freaking day to hit the notes now and the game seems easier. I'm jamming on hard drums and actually keeping up on quite nicely on quite a few expert songs. I'm thinking it has to be a begger timing window or else the calibration thing. It certainly could be the cal since the RB1 routine was pretty crappy. In any event, I'm digging the Ion drums on RB2 with the new cal routine.

HMX has pretty much nixed this rumor:

http://www.rockband.com/forums/showthread.php?p=1246198#post1246198

I don't believe we adjusted our timing window at all.

On the ScoreHero forums, another HMX dev, dfan, posted the following:

If you think the timing window has changed, it is probably due to calibration.

If it's now easier, congratulations! Your calibration is better than it was in RB1.

If it's now harder, try recalibrating.

Anyone else notice the Ratt song "Round and Round" has a different take of the guitar solo then the album? IIRC, one of the Boston songs has a different vocal section too.

Its cool to hear different things in familiar songs.

I'm just glad that we can finally erase the GH:80s cover version from memory.

Here's looking forward to an "Uncle Miltie" challenge someday: suggestion.

Round and Round, Lay it Down, Back for More. :cool:

Now I'm going to go write something in "RATT" font.

So I picked up RB 2 last week and love everything about it so far! I love that you can do World tour with only one person this time!!! That is a great feature when people aren't around and I can just play around.

But my only question right now is how do I export the RB1 game songs to RB2? I know you can do it for $5, but I can't find the option anywhere in the game. Do I have to go on LIVE somewhere and do it?

Thanks very much!!!

So I picked up RB 2 last week and love everything about it so far! I love that you can do World tour with only one person this time!!! That is a great feature when people aren't around and I can just play around.

But my only question right now is how do I export the RB1 game songs to RB2? I know you can do it for $5, but I can't find the option anywhere in the game. Do I have to go on LIVE somewhere and do it?

Thanks very much!!!

You do it from the RB1 game not RB2...load it up...let it patch and then their should be an Export option in the options menu.

looks like the new Rock band site is launching today(entire site is down right now). Hopefully and the slick new feqatures will be aopertional as well. My friends and I made some great band charectars yesterday and I want to make a band photo.

looks like the new Rock band site is launching today(entire site is down right now). Hopefully and the slick new feqatures will be aopertional as well. My friends and I made some great band charectars yesterday and I want to make a band photo.

I may actually order a figurine of my drummer, too. :D

RafaelSmith, thanks man!!! I didn't think of that :-) Damn!!

Now does it do all of the songs even if there some that have not been unlocked? I think I have unlocked everything though.

So I assume that after the export there really isn't any reason to keep RB1...

Hey guys:

Amazon is apparently selling MS Points at 20% off. No idea how long the sale will go on, but I'd thought I'd pass this along so folks can jump on it while it lasts. Note that the details say it could be as long as 3-5 weeks until they deign to ship it. However, since it's free money, the 20% off is still a good deal. :D


Awesome. I bought several 1600 point cards since the wife and I have different accounts.

If you haven't made the move on RB2 yet:

http://slickdeals.net/permadeal/14015

RB2 (game only) and 1600 MS points for $60 from Amazon.

Perfect. This will get a few of my friends to jump on in.

So I assume that after the export there really isn't any reason to keep RB1...

Depends if you want to play Enter Sandman, Paranoid, and Run to the Hills.

ok, all you guys have been pwned on the bass note streak battle!!!!!11:cool:

i fc'd the first two songs and 3/4 of the third song before i lost concentration and flubbed a note.

(i did kinda cheat and go medium :o)
It's completely trivial on "Medium" difficulty; I hit every note on all three songs, personally. In fact, the biggest danger is making a mistake because one zones out and starts thinking about something else after a while. Sheer boredom, but yeah, it lets one get a high ranking on "Battle of the Band" challenges.

shagino, what do you mean? I have those songs unlocked, but are you saying that those songs don't get exported? I don't mind if Run to the Hills and Parinoid don't get exported..but I love playing Enter Sandman!

shagino, what do you mean? I have those songs unlocked, but are you saying that those songs don't get exported? I don't mind if Run to the Hills and Parinoid don't get exported..but I love playing Enter Sandman!

HMX couldn't get the rights a second time to enter sandman because fo metallica's deal with Activision and Guitar hero(battery on Rock band 2 was a done deal before metallica went exclusive). The other two might have similar deals or could be getting rereleased as master tracks for free via DLC.)HMX wants to completely avoid covers now(both of those tracks are covers).

logicalnoise, thanks for the explaination. I guess I can live without Enter Sandman for now. I bought the Metallica pack for RB1 which is now on RB2 so at least I get most 99% of the Metallica songs.

Hopefully they will work things out.

Tested out my RMA RB1 guitar this weekend.

Pros
- does not double strum at all

Cons
- impossible for me to keep a rhythm, without the click feeling and click sound from strumbar
- I play laying down. the RB1 guitar kicks OD in when in this position, my Exploder does not.

I had to switch back to Exploder. atleast I now have another controller that works, so if people are over someone can use it. but I'll personally need to stick with the Exploder :(

Tommy Gun's Rock Band 2 Manual Calibration Guide (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-GZdZX9f_-U)

Tested out my RMA RB1 guitar this weekend.

Pros
- does not double strum at all

Cons
- impossible for me to keep a rhythm, without the click feeling and click sound from strumbar
- I play laying down. the RB1 guitar kicks OD in when in this position, my Exploder does not.

I had to switch back to Exploder. atleast I now have another controller that works, so if people are over someone can use it. but I'll personally need to stick with the Exploder :(


You play laying down?

Only time I've seen someone do that....I was playing drums and my buddy was standing to my right on guitar. He got a little too far into my comfort bubble with his gyrations, so I flipped a drumstick over his way in between beats and accidentally whacked him in the LT. Needless to say, he finished the song on his back in a semi-fetal position, looking at the screen upside down.

My personal space is not invaded any more.

You play laying down?

yep
before GH, I would watch tv, laying on the couch or bed, strumming my IRL guitar.
it's basically the exact same position as standing, except I don't need a strap, and it's 100x more relaxing (and natural feeling).

that's the only thing I don't like about the Exploder, that wing is right where my arm needs to rest. it's tough to find a comfortable postion, compared to the GS (from the PS2)

that's the only thing I don't like about the Exploder,

btw, It's Explorer, or actually X-plorer according to Red Octane. ;)

But "exploder" is kinda cool too. :D

btw, It's Explorer, or actually X-plorer according to Red Octane. ;)

But "exploder" is kinda cool too. :Doh, I know what it's called:cool:

Has anyone RMA'd just the drum pedal? Do they ask you to replace the entire set? I don't want to waste my drum soft pads until they are completely worn.

Just RMA'd my original guitar that I've had since December...whammy lost it's spring :(

Holy crap. I unlocked Buy a Real Instrument Already legitimately! I was going to piggyback on an expert vocalist to do the vocal challenge, but I tried the Avenged Sevenfold expert challenge on drums and passed all three songs (including Almost Easy on a sightread) with 4 stars! Achievement unlocked! And only four more to go for Challenge Savant.

Doesn't look like we are getting the Rock Band 2 cymbals for a long time.

Wow... "Carry On Wayward Son" is now my favorite song to play on drums! :cool: Easily ranks up with the best Boston DLC tracks.

Holy crap. I unlocked Buy a Real Instrument Already legitimately! I was going to piggyback on an expert vocalist to do the vocal challenge, but I tried the Avenged Sevenfold expert challenge on drums and passed all three songs (including Almost Easy on a sightread) with 4 stars! Achievement unlocked! And only four more to go for Challenge Savant.Grats! I got the "Buy a Real'" achievement similarly, doing an "Impossible" challenge on guitar that was different from the official "Impossible Guitar Challenge," which surprised me until I realized that you get it for any "impossible" level challenge on any instrument.

It may be a while til I get Lord of the Strings, however. I can't get through Painkiller (the final song in the "Impossible Guitar Challenge"). There's some seriously ridiculous solo BS going on in there. I thought Bodhisattva would be the guitar stopper, but I breezed through that compared to Painkiller.

Can I also just say that I am really NOT impressed with any of the HMX bonus songs this round? I grew to really like most of the bonus songs in RB1, but these RB2 "bonus" songs are no bonus, my friends. Blech.

Doesn't look like we are getting the Rock Band 2 cymbals for a long time.Have they been pushed back again? Do you have a new date?

Grats! I got the "Buy a Real'" achievement similarly, doing an "Impossible" challenge on guitar that was different from the official "Impossible Guitar Challenge," which surprised me until I realized that you get it for any "impossible" level challenge on any instrument.

It may be a while til I get Lord of the Strings, however. I can't get through Painkiller (the final song in the "Impossible Guitar Challenge"). There's some seriously ridiculous solo BS going on in there. I thought Bodhisattva would be the guitar stopper, but I breezed through that compared to Painkiller.


What about Visions? This was the first legitimiate fail I had (I somehow failed Anyway You Want It, and I still don't know how I did that, and Down with the Sickness, but that was just because I was at the end of a 3 hour session and my hand was about ready to fall off)... Anyways, I breezed through the first marathon on impossible, and the first 3 songs on the second marathon...

When Visions came up, I hit a brick wall, played it through on practice, and know that I will never beat this song... I also failed Painkiller and Panic Attack, but I've only played them once each, and feel that if I practiced both of those a little bit I could get them...

Is there anyway to differentiate your drums and guitar scores in screens where they show your scores... Also can you differentiate your scores between difficulty levels?

Have they been pushed back again? Do you have a new date?

Gamestop's website is now saying Nov 2.

What about Visions? This was the first legitimiate fail I had
Is Visions in the Impossible Guitar Challenge? I remember Bodhisattva, Battery, and Painkiller...but I can't recall the other one(s).

Whatever the earlier ones were, I managed to get through them on the sight read (although it wasn't pretty). I failed Painkiller 4 times in a row, however...all at roughly the same spot (somewhere around 59% I believe). Then I told Judas Priest to F*** OFF and switched to drums. :p

All of the bonus songs really blow...and they're not fun to play at all. The Conventional Lover and Bang Camaro songs are the only ones halfway decent. Wish there was a way to erase all of them. :mad:

Is Visions in the Impossible Guitar Challenge? I remember Bodhisattva, Battery, and Painkiller...but I can't recall the other one(s).

Whatever the earlier ones were, I managed to get through them on the sight read (although it wasn't pretty). I failed Painkiller 4 times in a row, however...all at roughly the same spot (somewhere around 59% I believe). Then I told Judas Priest to F*** OFF and switched to drums. :p

I'm not sure, I haven't played that challenge... It's in the impossible marathon challenge 2 though...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=63BfFdauJXo maybe that will refresh your memory :)

Abort, you know you don't have to be on expert to get Lord of the Strings, right?

Abort, you know you don't have to be on expert to get Lord of the Strings, right?

Ummm...since when? Seriously? :confused::confused::confused:

Wow...I just assumed it had to be on Expert.

Man...kinda waters that achievement down a touch, doesn't it? It took me like 3 months to finally beat GG&HT on Expert, but it was a freakin' cakewalk on Hard.

Sad though it may be, you can earn any of those achievements just by beating the "Impossible" challenge on "Easy" difficulty. Not all that impossible, huh. Basically, the achievement just means you successfully played through all the linked challenges at some difficulty level.

Anyone else noticed how the leaderboards are inaccurate. I was just playing random setlist in solo tour and scored over 274K+ on Hungry Like a Wolf Vocals yet on the leaderboards it reads 220K. But if I would go into my band profile and check the stats then 274K is there. :confused:
Btw, I can't find the band photo option. Was it taken out?

God, I feel so dumb sometimes when I see the notes, know that my right hand needs to constantly be tapping, and that my left hand and the pedal are being alternated in there... and I try to do it and all of a sudden all 3 end up happening at the exact same time lol. Either that, or my brain will get confused for just a few seconds where I'll have to stop and miss a couple notes to catch the beat again lol. I guess maybe I should practice it at a slower speed or something until I get it down.

I was able to barely pass the impossible drum challenge on Medium, but Battery, Painkiller, and Panic Attack in a row were pretty tough for me, I scored like 70% and barely passed each one. I also am not quite good enough to move up to hard with the easiest songs.

Anyone else noticed how the leaderboards are inaccurate. I was just playing random setlist in solo tour and scored over 274K+ on Hungry Like a Wolf Vocals yet on the leaderboards it reads 220K. But if I would go into my band profile and check the stats then 274K is there. :confused:
Btw, I can't find the band photo option. Was it taken out?like RB1, it takes some time for it to update.

Hey guys,

I'm looking for an expert vocalist to play tonight around 10 pm EST. Let me know if you can play.

Just RMA'd my original guitar that I've had since December...whammy lost it's spring :(

I had a similar thing happen about a 3 months ago from my original guitar I've had since November. I didn't RMA because if said something about requiring a receipt showing it had been purchased in the last 60 days. How'd you get around this? I'd love to RMA mine because playing with a bad whammy is quite annoying.

Anyone else noticed how the leaderboards are inaccurate. I was just playing random setlist in solo tour and scored over 274K+ on Hungry Like a Wolf Vocals yet on the leaderboards it reads 220K. But if I would go into my band profile and check the stats then 274K is there. :confused:
Btw, I can't find the band photo option. Was it taken out?

band photo is a feature of the new rock band official website which should be up sometime this week. Once your gamertag is linked with the new site you'll be able to create a band photo with all your band members. The new site is also going to have the ability to have shirts with your band logo made as well as offer a customizable 12 inch figurine of any of your band members.

I had a similar thing happen about a 3 months ago from my original guitar I've had since November. I didn't RMA because if said something about requiring a receipt showing it had been purchased in the last 60 days. How'd you get around this? I'd love to RMA mine because playing with a bad whammy is quite annoying.I believe that policy starts 10/1
so you best get crackin

Ok Drummers,

I'm trying to progress from easy to medium but my thigh started killing me. I think I may need a drum throne since I'm sitting a little higher than I should be. Anyone else run into this?

Which drum throne did you all get? Looks like they run between $50-100. I'm not sure I want to go into Guitar Center and mention it's for RB. I'd probably say it isn't for me but you get the point.

I believe that policy starts 10/1
so you best get crackin

I actually just tried and it said that. I didn't do anything when it first happened, because i was just assuming that 6+ months was too long to rma. We'll see what they say.

Ok Drummers,

I'm trying to progress from easy to medium but my thigh started killing me. I think I may need a drum throne since I'm sitting a little higher than I should be. Anyone else run into this?

Which drum throne did you all get? Looks like they run between $50-100. I'm not sure I want to go into Guitar Center and mention it's for RB. I'd probably say it isn't for me but you get the point.

Don't say it's for RB then. :)

Which drum throne did you all get? Looks like they run between $50-100. I'm not sure I want to go into Guitar Center and mention it's for RB. I'd probably say it isn't for me but you get the point.

I'm also thinking a throne for my b-day. Prices range from ~$40 to more then $250 (http://www.porkpiedrums.com/html/thrones.html). :eek:

I don't think you want a $40 throne. ;) Since someone else is buying, so I'm going for somewhere in the middle. The Roc N Soc (http://accessories.musiciansfriend.com/product/RocNSoc-Nitro-Throne?sku=442612) was recommended to me in that middle price range, but I haven't picked one out yet.

Any suggestions from IRL drummers? :confused:

I actually just tried and it said that. I didn't do anything when it first happened, because i was just assuming that 6+ months was too long to rma. We'll see what they say.pretty sure it said that for me too. it also said starting 10/1

either way, I did an RMA last week and didn't need to provide a receipt (thankfully, because I got it new in box from Ebay)

Ok Drummers,

I'm trying to progress from easy to medium but my thigh started killing me. I think I may need a drum throne since I'm sitting a little higher than I should be. Anyone else run into this?

Which drum throne did you all get? Looks like they run between $50-100. I'm not sure I want to go into Guitar Center and mention it's for RB. I'd probably say it isn't for me but you get the point.

I bought a $40 throne that I barely use. It's still more comfortable for me to use my folding chair and extend the pedal out a little further than it should probably be. Have to play "heel down" this way. I push the pedal far enough away from me that lifting my foot up doesn't hurt or take too much effort. I'm not at all good at "heel up", but every once in a while some songs just require it, so I bring out the throne because it sits higher and makes "heel up" easier. I'm also playing hard/expert level.

I'm also thinking a throne for my b-day. Prices range from ~$40 to more then $250 (http://www.porkpiedrums.com/html/thrones.html). :eek:

I don't think you want a $40 throne. ;) Since someone else is buying, so I'm going for somewhere in the middle. The Roc N Soc (http://accessories.musiciansfriend.com/product/RocNSoc-Nitro-Throne?sku=442612) was recommended to me in that middle price range, but I haven't picked one out yet.

Any suggestions from IRL drummers? :confused:

Drummer in the last band I worked for had one of those $250 thrones (he had the gold with leopard print - didn't fit his style at ALL).

This is the throne I got:
http://www.guitarcenter.com/Tama-HT530C-Wide-Rider-Drum-Throne-with-Cloth-Top-440487-i1135459.gc

Super comfortable. Completely worth the $120 (got it from a local shop).

Someone posted a link to one that was $150 I don't know how many pages back now. But if I was willing to spend that kind of cash I'd probably go with that. It had a pneumatic lift. It might have been that roc n soc. I'd go with that just for the lift mechanism.

Someone posted a link to one that was $150 I don't know how many pages back now. But if I was willing to spend that kind of cash I'd probably go with that. It had a pneumatic lift. It might have been that roc n soc. I'd go with that just for the lift mechanism.That was probably my post you are referring to. Here's that link, Shagino, to save you the search time:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=14619036#post14619036

I <3 my super-comfy Roc-N-Soc drum throne. Worth every penny.

Thanks for the suggestions Abort and Jokell! :cool:

I think I'm going to head to a local drum shop in the next couple weeks and try some of those out... although I'm worried that they'll sit me behind a drum kit, hand me sticks and I'll go "uhhhh... where's the TV screen?" :p

Got my ION drums today from Amazon!

Took about 1.5 hours to get up and running and I'm still fiddling with how I want them to be. It really feels more like playing drums but there's going to be a relearning that has to happen. The thing is really solid.

I'm also having some issues with the green cymbal not registering some hits. Those of you that have them, did you put the thick cloth spacer above (that's what I did) or below the cymbal and how tight do you have the wingnut screwed down. Do your cymbals have much free play in them?

I'm also having some issues with the green cymbal not registering some hits. Those of you that have them, did you put the thick cloth spacer above (that's what I did) or below the cymbal and how tight do you have the wingnut screwed down. Do your cymbals have much free play in them?

I've been reading about problems with cymbals missing hits, but its been dependable for me. I think in my case I use heavy stick (Zildjian anti-vibe 5a), and probably have a heavier hit.

I"m pretty sure foam on top, above the colored disk and below the wingnut. If you look underneath, there's a "V" shape on the pole's mount that the cymbal slides into. I believe there should be little to no "give" -- in other words, its not supposed to swing like a real cymbal. Mine are pretty tight. EDIT: looking at some videos on YouTube, most people's cymbals have a little swing to them... so maybe I have mine too tight? I'll loosen and see if that feels better.

Be sure to hit the rubber part. ;) (I put one on backwards and didn't notice until the first time I hit the plastic. :p)

Can I also just say that I am really NOT impressed with any of the HMX bonus songs this round? I grew to really like most of the bonus songs in RB1, but these RB2 "bonus" songs are no bonus, my friends. Blech.

Totally agree with you there. The HMX songs in RB1 were 80% decent songs - the ones in RB2 are 80% garbage.

I will say that many of the "real" songs that I thought I would not like are actually growing on me, including the notorious AFI song (the drum part in that one matches the actual music nearly perfectly.) On the down side, the stupid drum part on American Woman has taken a song I used to enjoy and made it unbearable.

the stupid drum part on American Woman has taken a song I used to enjoy and made it unbearable.

+1... I never would have guessed "American Woman" has such a crappy drum part.

OTOH, I never would have guessed Alanis Morissette's "You Oughta Know" has such a fun rhythm.

Totally agree with you there. The HMX songs in RB1 were 80% decent songs - the ones in RB2 are 80% garbage.

I will say that many of the "real" songs that I thought I would not like are actually growing on me, including the notorious AFI song (the drum part in that one matches the actual music nearly perfectly.) On the down side, the stupid drum part on American Woman has taken a song I used to enjoy and made it unbearable.

Ha, I have the exact opposite opinion. I hate hearing American Woman, it's the most overplayed Guess Who song they have but I actually enjoyed playing the drum part.

I'm also thinking a throne for my b-day. Prices range from ~$40 to more then $250 (http://www.porkpiedrums.com/html/thrones.html). :eek:

I don't think you want a $40 throne. ;) Since someone else is buying, so I'm going for somewhere in the middle. The Roc N Soc (http://accessories.musiciansfriend.com/product/RocNSoc-Nitro-Throne?sku=442612) was recommended to me in that middle price range, but I haven't picked one out yet.

Any suggestions from IRL drummers? :confused:

Dave,

I would recommend the Gibraltor one that I've been using for about a year now. I use it for both my real kit and RB and have spent up to five hours on it. I really like the hydraulic adjustment and if you want, there is a separate seat back that can be added for $70. Here's the link: http://accessories.musiciansfriend.com/product/Gibraltar-Hydraulic-Moto-Throne?sku=447784

Dave,

I would recommend the Gibraltor one that I've been using for about a year now. I use it for both my real kit and RB and have spent up to five hours on it. I really like the hydraulic adjustment and if you want, there is a separate seat back that can be added for $70. Here's the link: http://accessories.musiciansfriend.com/product/Gibraltar-Hydraulic-Moto-Throne?sku=447784

Looks great, thanks!

So far its a toss up between the Roc N Soc and that Gibraltar. I just need to test drive them to see which my posterior prefers.

btw, "Let The Be Rock" on Expert Drums is too much for anyone over 40... WHEW! :eek: It's RB2's Green Grass & High Tides on amphetamines.

That one looks a lot better than the Roc N Soc. I'd go with the Gibraltar.

Looks great, thanks!

So far its a toss up between the Roc N Soc and that Gibraltar. I just need to test drive them to see which my posterior prefers.

btw, "Let The Be Rock" on Expert Drums is too much for anyone over 40... WHEW! :eek: It's RB2's Green Grass & High Tides on amphetamines.

I was just thinking this while playing "Let There Be Rock". Definitely not very enjoyable for me. Also don't dig the song that much, but I'm not a big AC/DC fan in general.

"Tangle Up in Blue", however, has an awesome drum part to go along with a great song. It's just fun to play. And I agree with your earlier sentiment on "You Oughta Know" being a lot of fun to play.

For guitar players, "Alive" is surprisingly fun. I'm going to have to finally go over to the RB website and use their suggestion system, though. I heard a song this week called "I Believe in a Thing Called Love" by The Darkness, and it's just perfect for RB. Awesome guitar solos (2 or 3 depending on what you consider solos), decent drum, and what would be absolutely hilarious, but probably fun to belt out, falsetto vocals.

Ok Drummers,

I'm trying to progress from easy to medium but my thigh started killing me. I think I may need a drum throne since I'm sitting a little higher than I should be. Anyone else run into this?

Which drum throne did you all get? Looks like they run between $50-100. I'm not sure I want to go into Guitar Center and mention it's for RB. I'd probably say it isn't for me but you get the point.
you don't need to spend $50-$100 to get a good throne. i use a Sound Percussion SP770DT Medium Weight Drum Throne, that i got for $29.99 at a local Guitar Center, and it works fine for me. they usually have a stack of them in the Drum department, and like almost everything else in the store it's covered under their 30/30 guarantee, so you can try it for 30 days and if you don't like it you can return it for a full refund...

http://www.guitarcenter.com/Sound-Percussion-SP770DT-Medium-Weight-Drum-Throne-104496427-i1415299.gc

it's better to get it in the store though, opposed to ordering it online, because shipping can sometimes be a bit high and i personally hate paying shipping for something that i should be able to walk into a store and purchase...

and FWIW, i'm around the 200 pound mark and i've played medium drums on it comfortably for hours at a time. as always, YMMV, but i don't know anyone that uses it that doesn't like it, especially considering it was only $30. bottom line, unless you play drums IRL, there's no reason to spend more than that on a throne for a video game...

good luck with whatever you decide to get...

And I agree with your earlier sentiment on "You Oughta Know" being a lot of fun to play.
If you guys didn't try the Bass Groove Battle, you owe it to yourselves to fire up the axe and give You Oughta Know a go on Expert Bass. Flea (from the Chili Peppers) did the bass on that song, and it's wicked fun.

For guitar players, "Alive" is surprisingly fun.
I enjoy Alive on all the instruments, but I *love* it on drums. Big fun. That and White Wedding (which is easy but fun, kinda like Enter Sandman) are my two drum favorites so far.

Does anyone find that the new RB2 Drums cause them more wrist pain then RB1 kit? I'm not sure if it's the drums, or because I didn't play the RB1 drums for about 3 weeks before RB2 came out... All I know is my right wrist is killing me...

I played some of the new DLC this morning. I purchased all of Moving Pictures, She Sells Sanctuary and Love Spreads.

From Moving Pictures I've only had a chance to play Limelight and Vital Signs on Hard Guitar. The charts were what you would think, not too bad at all on guitar. I think the most fun way to play these Rush tunes (besides on drums) is on expert bass. The cover version of Limelight was a blast on expert bass, I would think this one would be as well. The guitar chart on Limelight seemed pretty similar to the cover as I remember.

As far as the other tracks on hard guitar...She Sells Sanctuary was meh. I feel like I wasted two bucks, but I've wasted two bucks on worse things...

Love Spreads on the other hand was loaded with HO/PO's throughout the verses, very cool. I judge a song on whether or not I can 5-star it the first time through on hard, and I got 4 stars so I'll be playing this track again.

Judging by the difficulty ratings on the Moving Pictures tracks you folks who drum should have a blast if you like these tunes.

I'm going to have to finally go over to the RB website and use their suggestion system, though. I heard a song this week called "I Believe in a Thing Called Love" by The Darkness, and it's just perfect for RB. Awesome guitar solos (2 or 3 depending on what you consider solos), decent drum, and what would be absolutely hilarious, but probably fun to belt out, falsetto vocals.

Right-on! Any "The Darkness" song would be clutch for RB, with thier tongue-in-cheek over-the-top style. It would be a definite "fun factor" bunch of songs.

Right-on! Any "The Darkness" song would be clutch for RB, with thier tongue-in-cheek over-the-top style. It would be a definite "fun factor" bunch of songs.

+1

I loved the first album by the Darkness. For guitar most of it would be lots of fun in RB, may be a bit boring on drums. Too bad the lead guitarist/vocalist went off the deep end with drugs and split up the band after the second album.

I played some of the new DLC this morning. I purchased all of Moving Pictures, She Sells Sanctuary and Love Spreads.

From Moving Pictures I've only had a chance to play Limelight and Vital Signs on Hard Guitar. The charts were what you would think, not too bad at all on guitar. I think the most fun way to play these Rush tunes (besides on drums) is on expert bass. The cover version of Limelight was a blast on expert bass, I would think this one would be as well. The guitar chart on Limelight seemed pretty similar to the cover as I remember.

As far as the other tracks on hard guitar...She Sells Sanctuary was meh. I feel like I wasted two bucks, but I've wasted two bucks on worse things...

Love Spreads on the other hand was loaded with HO/PO's throughout the verses, very cool. I judge a song on whether or not I can 5-star it the first time through on hard, and I got 4 stars so I'll be playing this track again.

Judging by the difficulty ratings on the Moving Pictures tracks you folks who drum should have a blast if you like these tunes.

Glad to hear some early feedback on Moving Pictures. I am dying to see some reviews on the drum parts. Being on a PS3, I need to wait until Thursday so I will just watch the youtube videos for now.

Since I am at work and can't see them right now, anyone want to give their 2cents on the difficulty of the drum parts?

Can't wait to play Moving Pictures shortly. Don't know how many of the other tracks I will be buying.

I like Tangled Up In Blue but I think the expert drums are boring and random. I don't have fun playing them.

Are there any backs you can add to that $30 throne?

Are there any backs you can add to that $30 throne?
not that i know of, i never felt the need to add one, but i'm sure if you did it would probably cost more than the throne. i wouldn't think that a back would work well with a round throne, because it will most likely feel awkward with a round front, which is most likely why i've only really seen backs on motorcycle thrones. if you're looking a motorcycle throne, the only one that i tried that felt comfortable that wasn't really expensive was this Tama throne at a local Sam Ash Music store. it felt a little slippery though, which you can kinda see by the shinny look in the photo, which is why i decided not to get it. i just felt like i was all over the place on it...

http://www.samash.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_HT35%20Drum%20Throne_-1_10052_10002_-49990734_cmCategorySA-10001

if you want a motorcycle throne, you will probably have to spend at least $100 to get something that feels comfortable and works well, like this Sound Percussion...

http://www.guitarcenter.com/Sound-Percussion-Embroidered-Drum-Throne-101489797-i1171096.gc

OTOH, I never would have guessed Alanis Morissette's "You Oughta Know" has such a fun rhythm.

yeah, the bass line is a blast to play.

are you guys seriously praising The Darkness:eek::confused:

are you guys seriously praising The Darkness:eek::confused:

The first key to understanding "metal", is to embrace the absurdity of it. It is why we like bands such as "the darkness", and why we never get sick of watching "Spinal Tap".

just my opinion obviously, but I think RB should leave novelty bands out (PotUSA).
if I'm gonna play music, I want to play music, not "absurdity" for the sake of "absurdity".

there's a reason they don't last longer than one album (or fall on thier faces trying to release a second).

but you're the metal guy, if you think of The Darkness as metal, then we're not gonna look eye to eye on the lameness that is The Darkness.

I'm sure The Darkness would be comical to play, but so would a William Shatner song, doesn't mean it's deserving of being included (IMO)

*you said Spinal Tap, I didn't, and my above opinion does NOT include them, as they are nothing like The Darkness in any way*

just my opinion obviously, but I think RB should leave novelty bands out (PotUSA).
if I'm gonna play music, I want to play music, not "absurdity" for the sake of "absurdity".

there's a reason they don't last longer than one album (or fall on thier faces trying to release a second).


They have more than 2 albums. It was one of the best concerts I saw this summer. It was very fun and they are nice guys. Whether or not you like them is up to you, but it's music and they can draw good crowds because plenty of people do like them. Lump is a great song. Their latest album is good stuff.

They have more than 2 albums. It was one of the best concerts I saw this summer. It was very fun and they are nice guys. Whether or not you like them is up to you, but it's music and they can draw good crowds because plenty of people do like them. Lump is a great song. Their latest album is good stuff.which band are we talking about here?

just because "plenty of people like them"*, doesn't make a band good/talented/listenable

*see creed

The Presidents.

And I wasn't saying plenty of people like them to justify them as a band. I just think it's stupid to bash something and say it's not music because you personally don't like them. I don't like Creed, but it's music and if someone likes it, good for them. I said plenty of people like them leading to the idea that's why they are in the game.

Darkness on Loveline 2004, wow what cool guys *rollseyes* (http://www.lovelinearchive.com/search.cgi?searchstring=darkness)

The Presidents.

And I wasn't saying plenty of people like them to justify them as a band. I just think it's stupid to bash something and say it's not music because you personally don't like them. I don't like Creed, but it's music and if someone likes it, good for them. I said plenty of people like them leading to the idea that's why they are in the game.they are in the game because people go "I remember hearing that song............over and over and over and over and ......... again on the radio"

I literally would rather shove an icepick into each ear, than listen to Peaches (said this after hearing it one time).

they are in the game because people go "I remember hearing that song............over and over and over and over and ......... again on the radio"

I literally would rather shove an icepick into each ear, than listen to Peaches (said this after hearing it one time).


I like PUSA. They are arguably a novelty band but every one of their songs have catchy melodies. Whether or not it's a skilled bunch of musicians, they make catchy songs. I believe they disappeared after the 3rd or 4th ablum because they were becoming too famous. You have to respect that.

ok, finished the "Moving Pictures" album challenge on expert guitar. interesting that yyz is not included even when you are going solo guitar.

seeing completed "Moving Pictures" right next to completed "Doolittle" challenge brought a smile to my face.

suprised no rush botb yet, maybe tonight?

just my opinion obviously, but I think RB should leave novelty bands out (PotUSA).
if I'm gonna play music, I want to play music, not "absurdity" for the sake of "absurdity".
Holy crap, that song was one of the few that I was most excited about to play on this game. I'm sorry if I want to have fun when I play a game.

ok, finished the "Moving Pictures" album challenge on expert guitar. interesting that yyz is not included even when you are going solo guitar.

seeing completed "Moving Pictures" right next to completed "Doolittle" challenge brought a smile to my face.

suprised no rush botb yet, maybe tonight?

it's so bands with vocalists can still complete the challenge. if there's a vocalist in your band you won't even see yyz in your available set list. This will pop up again when teh texas flood album releases(three instrumentals on there).

Personally I find Lump a lot of fun to play on drums, it's one of my favorites to play. Tangled Up In Blue is one of my least favorites. It's a good exercise in off-beats but it doesn't have much in the way of groove.

Although I'm not a huge AC/DC fan I like some of their songs but man, Let There Be Rock was (surprisingly) so BORING and tedious to play on drums. I had no fun with that track at all.

The first key to understanding "metal", is to embrace the absurdity of it. It is why we like bands such as "the darkness", and why we never get sick of watching "Spinal Tap".

That "key" could be applied to several other "music genres" :)


FYI although The Darkness style of music is not typically my cup of tea...I do find it fun to play.

Which brings up one of the biggest things ive noticed since playing these music games....Music and bands that I admire and love to listen too...often do not make for very fun gameplay while others that I have never cared to listen too or even bothered to try out...often make for some fun gameplay.

THere are always exceptions...Boston...can listen to them all day and are a blast to play in RB.

Fall out Boy, Freezpop, Beastie Boys, Grateful Dead, countless others that IMO barely qualify as music....can't stand them...never did...never will...and HATE playing them in RB. =P

just my opinion obviously, but I think RB should leave novelty bands out (PotUSA).
if I'm gonna play music, I want to play music, not "absurdity" for the sake of "absurdity".

there's a reason they don't last longer than one album (or fall on thier faces trying to release a second).


The Presidents are not a novelty band. That album ruled my life back in the day. And they still tour today and sell out clubs across the States.

Just because you don't like it doesn't make it bad.

The Presidents are not a novelty band. That album ruled my life back in the day. And they still tour today and sell out clubs across the States.

Just because you don't like it doesn't make it bad.First off, I never said they were "bad" (the discussion was about The Darkness, but everyone seems to take offense to my including PotUSA)

Second, they are very much a novelty band. every song is beyond corny.

Terrible bands, are the ones that get airplay, and "sell out clubs". make a corny video (to match the corny song) on MTV, and (the American Idol) crowd will follow them

they are in the game because people go "I remember hearing that song............over and over and over and over and ......... again on the radio"

I literally would rather shove an icepick into each ear, than listen to Peaches (said this after hearing it one time).

Well, your exact statement is exactly what I think about half of the bands on RB2. Give me a friggin break, Greateful Dead & Dylan??? I would rather gouge my eyes out, than buy one of thier CDs. But I don't mind playing them on RB, just to get exposed to different musical styles and improve my overall gameplay.

Holy crap, that song was one of the few that I was most excited about to play on this game. I'm sorry if I want to have fun when I play a game.

Yes, apparently we are criminals in the eyes of the music police. F#@K! I am a formally trained Jazz and Classical musician, who also loves Hardcore and Thrash; but once in while, I just want to play something completely silly. I still absolutely love playing "Trogdor" from GH!!!

Terrible bands, are the ones that get airplay, and "sell out clubs". make a corny video (to match the corny song) on MTV, and (the American Idol) crowd will follow them

You are missing three key words in this statement...

In My Opinion

Quality of music (and most other things for that matter) is determined by an individual's taste... There is no point in arguing about quality of music in a videogame thread where the tastes in music is going to be widespread...

Yeah, apperantly a band is only good if they just play in their mom's basement on the weekends because they have real jobs during the week from their inability to draw a crowd and fill up a club.

Terrible bands, are the ones that get airplay, and "sell out clubs". make a corny video (to match the corny song) on MTV, and (the American Idol) crowd will follow them

I think you started this sentence off wrong with the first word. Its not "terrible" because if I was a record company, I wouldn't hire terrible bands. Terrible bands don't get air play and sell out clubs. "Corny" would of been the correct word.

Well, your exact statement is exactly what I think about half of the bands on RB2. Give me a friggin break, Greateful Dead & Dylan??? I would rather gouge my eyes out, than buy one of thier CDs. But I don't mind playing them on RB, just to get exposed to different musical styles and improve my overall gameplay.lol I like how you use two of the most classic artists in the history of music (not saying I like or dislike either of them), to compare to two bands that will never be.

why do you think I haven't brought up SOAD yet? for as much as I loathe that band (because they sound like Metal Meatloaf), I do understand the merits of the music, and wouldn't dream of putting them in the category of PotUSA and The Darkness. this won't help me get through playing their songs though, without having a fit.

sorry, I'm passionate person when it comes to music/movies. I'm very love/hate, that's why I enjoy it so much. I will never relate with the "I like all kinds of music" people, sounds all too ho-hum. *not saying this is any of you!!!*

You are missing three key words in this statement...

In My Opinion

Quality of music (and most other things for that matter) is determined by an individual's taste... There is no point in arguing about quality of music in a videogame thread where the tastes in music is going to be widespread...you are welcome to look above, where I stated IMO twice at the beginning of the discuss.
I didn't feel it was necessary to put it in every post

IMO

Yeah, apperantly a band is only good if they just play in their mom's basement on the weekends because they have real jobs during the week from their inability to draw a crowd and fill up a club.yep, that's exactly what I said:rolleyes:
I'm not the one claiming that just because a band sells out clubs, that they write good songs

Red Barchetta is fantastic for the first 44% of the song and then it turns into Run To The Hills. Songs that map the hi-hat to red still kick my ass for some reason. I wish they'd keep it on yellow. Saved my star power and still failed at 50%. It's funny, Red Barchetta is tier 6 and I fail it, but The Trees is tier 7 (devils) and I five starred it on expert sight read.

YYZ, holy crap. It gets insane during the bass solo. Too tired to try it again.

For the record, MACH 5 is one great song...too bad they didn't include it in RB2, its far better than the selection they chose to include.

As for the rest......sometimes great music doesn't transfer to a game known as ROCK BAND. I've always had a bit of a problem with some of the selections included in the game entitled ROCK BAND....."thats not rock, thats pop"...or..."who thought it would be a good idea to include this slow-assed song?".

But then we forget that Rock Band also has that SINGING component. Hell I'd love to belt out Subterranian Homesick Blues in a slurred, incomprenehsible fashion.

I think you started this sentence off wrong with the first word. Its not "terrible" because if I was a record company, I wouldn't hire terrible bands. Terrible bands don't get air play and sell out clubs. "Corny" would of been the correct word.the pet rock made a company money too. record companies hire who will sell to the public, which usually includes some form of schtick that people will pay for (until it plays itself out)


I'll end this conversation now and get back on topic:D

can't wait to DL Sorrow tonight......
*waits for everyone to say how horrible Bad Religion is:cool:*

*waits for everyone to say how horrible Bad Religion is:cool:*

Bad Religion sucks :)

Well they're not named "Good Religion"...;)

Well they're not named "Good Religion"...;):D
nope, but Good Charlotte, should definitely be named Bad Charlotte!

What we need is 'Pop Band' , 'Punk Band' , 'Metal Band' , 'Country Band' , etc. to go along with 'Rock Band' (sort of like how GH does it with those pack discs) . I honestly hate having to play through some of the off the wall stuff that is in RB1/2 , they should have just called the game 'Music Band' but obviously that does not sound nearly as cool as 'Rock Band' even though it would be a better description ;) . I mean if you want to appeal to a wider audience then you need more than one or two songs from a particular category anyway , why not just give each group a pack that will truly grab them . Maybe give an in game option to pick our own song lists or categories from what is available on the disc (I am not talking about the DLC here since obviously we all have our own choice in that regard) . All I'm basically saying is that the game should not be forcing us to listen and play along with music that we do not enjoy listening to in the first place in order to unlock the music that we do like (tour mode) , we pay good money and should have a choice . As an example when my wife and I hit that Bob Dylan song we both absolutely hated it and would remove it from the play list in a second if we had the option , what keeps us going through some of these horrible songs (at least to us) is that we know once we unlock everything we won't have to play them again ;) .

- Jason

Great suggestions Pimp..

If they are smart, they are listening!!

What we need is 'Pop Band' , 'Punk Band' , 'Metal Band' , 'Country Band' , etc. to go along with 'Rock Band' (sort of like how GH does it with those pack discs) . I honestly hate having to play through some of the off the wall stuff that is in RB1/2 , they should have just called the game 'Music Band' but obviously that does not sound nearly as cool as 'Rock Band' even though it would be a better description ;) . I mean if you want to appeal to a wider audience then you need more than one or two songs from a particular category anyway , why not just give each group a pack that will truly grab them . Maybe give an in game option to pick our own song lists or categories from what is available on the disc (I am not talking about the DLC here since obviously we all have our own choice in that regard) . All I'm basically saying is that the game should not be forcing us to listen and play along with music that we do not enjoy listening to in the first place in order to unlock the music that we do like (tour mode) , we pay good money and should have a choice . As an example when my wife and I hit that Bob Dylan song we both absolutely hated it and would remove it from the play list in a second if we had the option , what keeps us going through some of these horrible songs (at least to us) is that we know once we unlock everything we won't have to play them again ;) .

- Jason

I agree, I would love to be able to flag a certain song to not show up in challenges or on tour, but still have it available for quickplay.

I understand Harmonix's need to pick songs that can be sensibly charted to cover all four instruments, plus full-band, at the various difficulty tiers. And on top of that, to broaden appeal, I'm sure they also intentionally diversify styles of music to some extent. I think they did an admirable job on RB1 of covering the bases. I haven't played RB2 yet, so I won't comment there.

I was thinking that for a future game, an a-la-carte model could be interesting... buy the game disc and get no 'default' songs, but instead credits you could use to pick out songs from a library. You could be required choose a certain number in each difficulty tier, or something like that, in order to retain a sense of progression by unlocking songs. In practice, this would be tough to pull off. If there were no songs on the disc, everything would have to be downloaded, tying the game to XBox Live users only. If all the songs were on the disc, but only the ones you 'spent' credits on were accessible, folks would figure out a hack to make all the songs available. Either way, to have everyone be able to pick 60-ish songs that they like, a library of WAY more than 60 songs would be required, pushing licensing fees through the roof. But it's a neat thought.

Overall, I think the status-quo compromise is pretty fair. Take the songs you get on-disk, and season to taste with downloads. The whole thing would work a little better if you could somehow rate songs, to affect the weighting of how often they come up in setlists. Maybe someday. :)

I agree, I would love to be able to flag a certain song to not show up in challenges or on tour, but still have it available for quickplay.

I would pay for that option.

I basically had to delete all my DLC and exported RB1 songs so that the Random sets would actually give me RB2 songs.

IMO RB1 songs and DLC should only be available for quickplay and player created setlists.

I would pay for that option.

I basically had to delete all my DLC and exported RB1 songs so that the Random sets would actually give me RB2 songs.

IMO RB1 songs and DLC should only be available for quickplay and player created setlists.

Song-by-song might be asking for too much (we can wish), but an option screen check box for rb1, dlc and rb2 for "random" would be nice. As far as picking songs (or avoiding them) based on difficulty... the tiers/challenge descriptions are probably supposed to scare players off, but some songs just may have worn out their welcome.

GG&HT for mystery challenges? I'd like to fail some NEW songs, please.:)

I was thinking that for a future game, an a-la-carte model could be interesting... buy the game disc and get no 'default' songs, but instead credits you could use to pick out songs from a library. You could be required choose a certain number in each difficulty tier, or something like that, in order to retain a sense of progression by unlocking songs. In practice, this would be tough to pull off. If there were no songs on the disc, everything would have to be downloaded, tying the game to XBox Live users only. If all the songs were on the disc, but only the ones you 'spent' credits on were accessible, folks would figure out a hack to make all the songs available. Either way, to have everyone be able to pick 60-ish songs that they like, a library of WAY more than 60 songs would be required, pushing licensing fees through the roof. But it's a neat thought.
I would say that the happy medium would be the following:

Buy the disc and play through all the songs (whether you claim to like them initially or not).

THEN, once you've unlocked them all and garnered some sort of achievement, it unlocks an optional configuration screen where you have the option to flag a certain number of songs for "no more of YOU unless I pick you in QuickPlay." The game could then use your DLC library (including RB1 songs now, and possibly RB2 songs in the future when RB3 hits, etc) to replace any existing tour setlists that had any of the flagged songs.

This would really be the best of both worlds. You still have to play everything through once so HMX doesn't have to worry about gameplay balance, but then once you've unlocked everything you can flag some of them (maybe 10 or 20? more might risk breaking things) to go away. Any setlists in the World Tour that used the flagged songs would then simply swap them out with the closest difficulty match from DLC.

I suggested this on the official forums quite a while back before RB2 was released and was hoping it might get implemented, but I certainly wasn't holding my breath.

I was just happy to see that they designed the RB1 export tool to save the songs as individual tracks so we could delete any RB1 songs we didn't like. (So long, Dead On Arrival! I feel bad for PS3 owners who don't get that option...)

sorry, I'm passionate person when it comes to music/movies. I'm very love/hate, that's why I enjoy it so much. I will never relate with the "I like all kinds of music" people, sounds all too ho-hum. *not saying this is any of you!!!*

This isn't really music, it is a game. The game wants to challenge you, otherwise it would be a Karaoke machine.

Hey, don't get me wrong, we all have our gripes, I sure would like to bitch slap the guy who decided to put Interpol on the disc...

What we need is 'Pop Band' , 'Punk Band' , 'Metal Band' , 'Country Band' , etc. to go along with 'Rock Band' (sort of like how GH does it with those pack discs) . I honestly hate having to play through some of the off the wall stuff that is in RB1/2 , they should have just called the game 'Music Band' but obviously that does not sound nearly as cool as 'Rock Band' even though it would be a better description ;) . I mean if you want to appeal to a wider audience then you need more than one or two songs from a particular category anyway , why not just give each group a pack that will truly grab them . Maybe give an in game option to pick our own song lists or categories from what is available on the disc (I am not talking about the DLC here since obviously we all have our own choice in that regard) . All I'm basically saying is that the game should not be forcing us to listen and play along with music that we do not enjoy listening to in the first place in order to unlock the music that we do like (tour mode) , we pay good money and should have a choice . As an example when my wife and I hit that Bob Dylan song we both absolutely hated it and would remove it from the play list in a second if we had the option , what keeps us going through some of these horrible songs (at least to us) is that we know once we unlock everything we won't have to play them again ;) .

- Jason


It already exists, it is called "DLC". GH did theme discs because they have started when the new consoles were in thier infancy, and they were already heavily invested in the PS2 market; so they have to release them that way now, or force everyone to upgrade to the current gen consoles.

IMHO I much prefer the RB method of one disc per year, and then a ton of DLC offerings. I know some people want the "value" of getting the songs bundled on a disc, but I still prefer a-la-cart. My only gripe is that some weeks they only offer 3 songs, which stinks if we don't like the music.

This isn't really music, it is a game. The game wants to challenge you, otherwise it would be a Karaoke machine.

Hey, don't get me wrong, we all have our gripes, I sure would like to bitch slap the guy who decided to put Interpol on the disc...this was my original gripe...
are you guys seriously praising The Darkness:eek::confused:my original statement had nothing to do with "a game". I didn't even know The Darkness was on RB

This has been an interesting couple of pages.

I have very specific tastes in musics, and am a bit of a snob at times. I don't care to listen to a lot of the tunes in the game and avoid them in quickplay. Still I like having them, and I like the progression through them. The only thing I really didn't like was singing some of the girl tunes (Flyleaf and Paramore specifically) and now I can get through most of those by dropping the mic for a tune or two.

Is anyone else having problems with putting batteries in the new RB2 guitar?

I have tried several sets of batteries (all of which I know are good) and about half the time the guitar will not turn on...i have to take them out and put them back in several times before the guitar will turn on.

What we need is 'Pop Band' , 'Punk Band' , 'Metal Band' , 'Country Band' , etc. to go along with 'Rock Band' (sort of like how GH does it with those pack discs) . I honestly hate having to play through some of the off the wall stuff that is in RB1/2 , they should have just called the game 'Music Band' but obviously that does not sound nearly as cool as 'Rock Band' even though it would be a better description ;) . I mean if you want to appeal to a wider audience then you need more than one or two songs from a particular category anyway , why not just give each group a pack that will truly grab them . Maybe give an in game option to pick our own song lists or categories from what is available on the disc (I am not talking about the DLC here since obviously we all have our own choice in that regard) . All I'm basically saying is that the game should not be forcing us to listen and play along with music that we do not enjoy listening to in the first place in order to unlock the music that we do like (tour mode) , we pay good money and should have a choice . As an example when my wife and I hit that Bob Dylan song we both absolutely hated it and would remove it from the play list in a second if we had the option , what keeps us going through some of these horrible songs (at least to us) is that we know once we unlock everything we won't have to play them again ;) .

- Jason

I agree that flagging songs should be something we could do.

However I think every single song released so far is part of the "Rock" genre of music. I can't think of one right now that wasn't.

-runs to look at the song chart-

One exception being the Beastie Boys - they may actually be classified as rap. Everything else is definitely rock, though.

One exception being the Beastie Boys - they may actually be classified as rap. Everything else is definitely rock, though.
Never been a fan, wonder why we've gotten the two songs we have gotten rather than Fight For Your Right which is something of a novelty song but far more appropriate for this game.

:DNever been a fan, wonder why we've gotten the two songs we have gotten rather than Fight For Your Right which is something of a novelty song but far more appropriate for this game.how dare you call that a novelty song!!!!;):D

that whole first album was a joke album (as described by the band).

this was my original gripe...
my original statement had nothing to do with "a game". I didn't even know The Darkness was on RB

Well then, I guess we have come full circle.:eek: It is like debating the meaning of life I suppose.;) No wonder we can't get peace in the middle east.:D

Is "The Darkness" on RB2 or DLC?:confused: I haven't unlocked all the songs yet, and I haven't visited DLC in a few weeks.:o

It already exists, it is called "DLC". GH did theme discs because they have started when the new consoles were in thier infancy, and they were already heavily invested in the PS2 market; so they have to release them that way now, or force everyone to upgrade to the current gen consoles.

IMHO I much prefer the RB method of one disc per year, and then a ton of DLC offerings. I know some people want the "value" of getting the songs bundled on a disc, but I still prefer a-la-cart. My only gripe is that some weeks they only offer 3 songs, which stinks if we don't like the music.

You missed the whole point of my post , had nothing to do with DLC (as I stated) :confused: .

- Jason

I agree that flagging songs should be something we could do.

However I think every single song released so far is part of the "Rock" genre of music. I can't think of one right now that wasn't.

-runs to look at the song chart-

One exception being the Beastie Boys - they may actually be classified as rap. Everything else is definitely rock, though.

There are many songs in there that I would not consider real rock but we all probably have varying ideas of what makes a ROCK song ;) . Bob Dylan is certainly not rock by my musical logic , there are many punk songs , there's some rap as mentioned and then there is some truly odd stuff that I am not even sure should be called music ( of course it is 'music' of sorts , just being sarcastic ;) ) .

- Jason

You missed the whole point of my post , had nothing to do with DLC (as I stated) :confused: .

- Jason

Ahh, sorry, I read it too quick (I'm at work). OK, I thought you meant for the to release discs by theme like GH. I stand corrected, yes you are right; some sort of "genre" feature would be a great improvement eventual RB3, I would love to have a "Metal World Domination Tour" to choose. In fact I think you are really on to something, this could be a revenue generator for them; in that they could egg us on to buy more DLC, when we are on that tour and they say "you do not have enough [insert genre here] songs in your library, please visit the music store".

There are many songs in there that I would not consider real rock but we all probably have varying ideas of what makes a ROCK song ;) . Bob Dylan is certainly not rock by my musical logic , there are many punk songs , there's some rap as mentioned and then there is some truly odd stuff that I am not even sure should be called music ( of course it is 'music' of sorts , just being sarcastic ;) ) .

- Jason

What you consider "real" rock has nothing to do with the definition of rock music. Bob Dylan is certainly rock music.

Definition of "Rock 'n' Roll" - a style of popular music that derives in part from blues and folk music and is marked by a heavily accented beat and a simple, repetitive phrase structure. (from Dictionary.com).

Now you may not like certain subgenres of Rock - like alt/rock, pop/rock, metal, whatever. But they're still defined as rock. ;)

What you consider "real" rock has nothing to do with the definition of rock music. Bob Dylan is certainly rock music.

Definition of "Rock 'n' Roll" - a style of popular music that derives in part from blues and folk music and is marked by a heavily accented beat and a simple, repetitive phrase structure. (from Dictionary.com).

Now you may not like certain subgenres of Rock - like alt/rock, pop/rock, metal, whatever. But they're still defined as rock. ;)

Tomato - Tomato

Music definitions/genres have always bugged me. Its always changing and being re-defined. If it can be scribed on a music sheet then its music..period.

What my parents listen to today...I call Country....but 30 years ago it would have been called Rock -n- Roll. My girlfriends 18 year old daughter calls what we listen too...oldies...while we for damn sure call it Rock -n- Roll =P Course I have no idea I should call the "music" she listens too.. I'm sure in 20 years I will.

What you consider "real" rock has nothing to do with the definition of rock music. Bob Dylan is certainly rock music.

Definition of "Rock 'n' Roll" - a style of popular music that derives in part from blues and folk music and is marked by a heavily accented beat and a simple, repetitive phrase structure. (from Dictionary.com).

Now you may not like certain subgenres of Rock - like alt/rock, pop/rock, metal, whatever. But they're still defined as rock. ;)

Certainly we all have varying definitions but the key there is 'derived from' , obviously most would not consider folk music to be rock in this day and age (I'm 40 and I certainly don't) . It can be broken down into many categories and just blindly calling most everything ROCK simply because rock gets its roots from many areas would be the wrong thing to do IMO . I mean soul music has a place in rock n roll roots but I would not call soul music ROCK ... would you ? If we wanted to generalize we could put all music into a single handful of categories but I think we all know it goes far beyond such a simplistic classification ;) .

- Jason

Tomato - Tomato

Music definitions/genres have always bugged me. Its always changing and being re-defined. If it can be scribed on a music sheet then its music..period.

What my parents listen to today...I call Country....but 30 years ago it would have been called Rock -n- Roll. My girlfriends 18 year old daughter calls what we listen too...oldies...while we for damn sure call it Rock -n- Roll =P Course I have no idea I should call the "music" she listens too.. I'm sure in 20 years I will.

Depends on the kind of country music your parents listen to. Much of current country isn't country music at all. And "Oldies" isn't a genre - it's still rock. :)

Certainly we all have varying definitions but the key there is 'derived from' , obviously most would not consider folk music to be rock in this day and age (I'm 40 and I certainly don't) . It can be broken down into many categories and just blindly calling most everything ROCK simply because rock gets its roots from many areas would be the wrong thing to do IMO . I mean soul music has a place in rock n roll roots but I would not call soul music ROCK ... would you ? If we wanted to generalize we could put all music into a single handful of categories but I think we all know it goes far beyond such a simplistic classification ;) .

- Jason

I know what you're saying, but my point is that just because the Go-Go's are in the game doesn't mean it's not Rock Band. ;)

Fair enough but I doubt we will ever hear Van Halen playing "We got the Beat" :D .

- Jason

for all the smack I talked about the bands above, their suckness pales in comparison to country (today's country, as defined by myself as any country from the past 20 years).

if somebody played country while I was in the car, I'd jump out the window while moving 75mph.

:Dhow dare you call that a novelty song!!!!;):D

that whole first album was a joke album (as described by the band).
Aside from their early hardcore stuff its about the only BB I care to listen to, I just don't get them, nor do I get why they are so revered by people who otherwise hate anything remotely hip hop... I mean, I think I get why, but I keep hoping I'm just missing something that isn't the obvious answer.

I do think that most of the game's music fits nicely under the banner of "rock" music but I do get what DGP is saying, I don't agree 100%, but it would be nice to get more music that screams "ROCK!" in the game.

I agree that flagging songs should be something we could do.

However I think every single song released so far is part of the "Rock" genre of music. I can't think of one right now that wasn't.

-runs to look at the song chart-

One exception being the Beastie Boys - they may actually be classified as rap. Everything else is definitely rock, though.
Beastie Boys are NOT rap or hip hop.

Aside from their early hardcore stuff its about the only BB I care to listen to, I just don't get them, nor do I get why they are so revered by people who otherwise hate anything remotely hip hop... I mean, I think I get why, but I keep hoping I'm just missing something that isn't the obvious answer.

never been a huge fan, don't like Licensed to Ill
but love Paul's Boutique (you'll never find an album that is so sample heavy again).
Check your head is much more band orientated than most "rap" albums. (they play the instruments)
never liked the song Sabatoge

as for the "revered" thing, I think it's exactly what I was say before, people like simplistic/joking/schtick songs that they can sing along with and feel like part of a group, because everyone else likes it.

this describes me 0%

Love the Beastie Boys. My favorite album would have to be 'The In Sound from Way Out!' So many people that hate the Beastie Boys find they really like this masterpiece.

However, plenty of their albums are rap by most people's definition, not that it matters.

people like simplistic/joking/schtick songs that they can sing along with and feel like part of a group, because everyone else likes it.

this describes me 0%
I don't suppose there's any chance we could get away from this discussion of musical tastes, likes and dislikes and return focus to the game, is there? What if I edited my original post and added a "please?" ;)

I don't mean to step on anyone's forum toes, but philosophical debates about what is classified as "rock" music or whether or not people would jump out of moving vehicles if a certain genre of music were playing gets a little tedious for those of us looking for Rock Band info.

If I'm in the minority on this, I'll shut up and continue skimming and rolling my eyes. ;) :rolleyes:

I don't suppose there's any chance we could get away from this discussion of musical tastes, likes and dislikes and return focus to the game, is there?

I don't mean to step on anyone's forum toes, but philosophical debates about what is classified as "rock" music or whether or not people would jump out of moving vehicles if a certain genre of music were playing gets a little tedious for those of us looking for Rock Band info.

If I'm in the minority on this, I'll shut up and continue skimming and rolling my eyes. ;) :rolleyes:I didn't see a please, but consider my opinions non-voiced from here out.

I'll find a nonmusic place, to talk about music

I didn't see a please, but consider my opinions non-voiced from here out.

Fixed. :)

I've been wondering this for a long time now but is there anyway to use the wired headset with the RB1 guitar?

I've been wondering this for a long time now but is there anyway to use the wired headset with the RB1 guitar?

There's an adapter that was included in the bundle (no idea on the individual guitar) that allowed this to happen.

I don't suppose there's any chance we could get away from this discussion of musical tastes, likes and dislikes and return focus to the game, is there? What if I edited my original post and added a "please?" ;)

I don't mean to step on anyone's forum toes, but philosophical debates about what is classified as "rock" music or whether or not people would jump out of moving vehicles if a certain genre of music were playing gets a little tedious for those of us looking for Rock Band info.

If I'm in the minority on this, I'll shut up and continue skimming and rolling my eyes. ;) :rolleyes:

No, I'm with you. I tried to avoid commenting. This discussion makes me want to put fist to face.

Someone convince me to spend $300 on the Ion drums...because I can't make myself do it.

I've been wondering this for a long time now but is there anyway to use the wired headset with the RB1 guitar?

There's an adapter that was included in the bundle (no idea on the individual guitar) that allowed this to happen.

For the record, I never had any luck with the two pure-crap "adapters" that were included in my RB1 bundle. You need it to use the headset while playing the drums, too...and they never worked for me.

I eventually decided to just go buy the official MS wireless headset, which isn't really very good, either...but at least it mostly works.

Someone convince me to spend $300 on the Ion drums...because I can't make myself do it.

If you dig playing the faux-drums (I think you are #1 on my Friends leaderboard?), and never want to worry about missed notes, crosstalk, or non-adjustable pads -- its $300 well spent.

Plus you'll feel very cool playing them. :cool:

I think in Rock Band 3 you should have to buy the game disk, and then it let you post mp3's of ANY cd on your Rock Band 3 account and convert them to a rock band 3 playable song...that would be amazing. I see some legal questions arising....

Someone convince me to spend $300 on the Ion drums...because I can't make myself do it.

I Played guitar IRL for years in 2 bands, but always wanted to be a drummer. I had the release RB1 drumset (but didn't start playing it a lot until after the warranty expired ). At the time I could barely play medium and worked up to being OK on hard. Luckily my wife broke my drumset which gave me a golden ticket to buy the Ion... I was nervous because of the price, but I LOVE it, and would do it all over again in a second! I agree with others when they say getting the positioning right takes a little time, but now I can't stop playing it (I have been tired for the past 2 weeks at work because of late night drumming lol)! Plus for me it's so much easier to play. My skills have increased to being able to cruise through "most" on hard and quite a few on expert that I never would have been able to with the stock kit. The bounce response and accuracy is awesome. The pedal is annoyingly noisy (squeeky), but I play with headphones so I don't hear it. If you have the cash to spare..Do it! =)

I think in Rock Band 3 you should have to buy the game disk, and then it let you post mp3's of ANY cd on your Rock Band 3 account and convert them to a rock band 3 playable song...that would be amazing. I see some legal questions arising....

Won't happen. Each instrument needs to have a separate track so when you miss a note the sound cuts out for that instrument only.

For the record, I never had any luck with the two pure-crap "adapters" that were included in my RB1 bundle. You need it to use the headset while playing the drums, too...and they never worked for me.

I eventually decided to just go buy the official MS wireless headset, which isn't really very good, either...but at least it mostly works.

You know up until now I've just been using the 360 headset to the drums directly. I have one of the later Elite Falcon models which has a slightly revised headset. Btw, I found that adapter and never even noticed the guitar had a connector for the headset. All this time since 02/08. :o

Abort, you know you don't have to be on expert to get Lord of the Strings, right?

I was just reading through the forum to check in on how to get the Lord of the Strings achievement and noticed this. This seems to go against what I am seeing in the game but is exactly what happened to my friend. His initial approach for the challenges was to simply play the minimum required per tier on Medium to move onto the next teir. After he got through his first challenge on the top (impossible) tier he gets the achievement. This is not my experience and I'm getting annoyed. I have played the Metallica challenge, 80's hits (I think) and Marathon 1 all on Hard and I have done the Marathon 2 on Medium and have not yet got the achievement. What gives? Does this sound like a game glitch or am I missing something that everyone else seems to be doing but me?

Thanks,

Rod

Rod, you need to do the specific impossible challenges to get the achievements, ie Impossible Drum Challenge for An-i-mal and Impossible Guitar Challenge for Lord of the Strings. Beating ANY impossible challenge on expert will get you Buy a Real Instrument Already.

For the record, I never had any luck with the two pure-crap "adapters" that were included in my RB1 bundle. You need it to use the headset while playing the drums, too...and they never worked for me.

I eventually decided to just go buy the official MS wireless headset, which isn't really very good, either...but at least it mostly works.

I got the adapters to work. When I get home I will take a picture of how I got it to work.

I got the adapters to work. When I get home I will take a picture of how I got it to work.

yeah 2/3 of my adapters crapped out after just regular use(can't find the 3rd) so I just bought the plantronics 360 headset. works great and has a noticebly better mic(same price as the new official MS design as well).

I just use the cable part of the adapter, not the plastic holder. Never had a single issue with either of them.

does anyone here have the rockpedal (or other after-market variant) and can tell me if your pedal works with the ion kit?

i'm reading a lot of stuff about the stock ion pedal being very loud and not-so-good. i have my rockpedal tuned, tweeked and working nicely, so it would be cool to just get a mono adapter and use it with the ion.

anyone know?

so what is everyones top 3 to 5 songs to play on RB2??

does anyone here have the rockpedal (or other after-market variant) and can tell me if your pedal works with the ion kit?

i'm reading a lot of stuff about the stock ion pedal being very loud and not-so-good. i have my rockpedal tuned, tweeked and working nicely, so it would be cool to just get a mono adapter and use it with the ion.

anyone know?

Yeah, I'm using the Omega Pedal w/ the ION kit. You'll just need a mini to 1/4" jack adapter. Recommendation is to use a mono adapter, but i tried a stereo adapter that comes with headphones with no problems.

so what is everyones top 3 to 5 songs to play on RB2??Expert Guitar
(no particular order, and haven't unlocked all the songs yet)
1- Livin on a Prayer - fairly easy, but fun
2- Let There Be Rock - difficult, losts of solos, lightening fast altstrumming
3- Alex Chilton - best "unexpected" song on the game (that I've unlocked so far)
4- Alive - great song
5- Round and Round - every song on RB should be like this one!

great news!

thanks!

Top 5 :

1- Alive (such a fun chart)
2- Round and Round (like everyone else it seems...)
3- Painkiller/Panic Attack (similar charts)
4- Spoonman (funnest drum chart IMO)
5- Battery

Bottom 5 :

1- Let There Be Rock/Bad Reputation (because of the damn drum charts)
2- Cool for Cats (this song is an abomination to the game)
3- PDA
4- Pinball Wizard
5- Tangled Up In Blue
(6- VISIONS)

Have they still not announced the 20DLC songs?

so what is everyones top 3 to 5 songs to play on RB2??

Any way you want it
White Wedding
the Blondie song Gonna Getcha I don't know the title..
Nine in the afternoon, first time i've ever heard this band, love this song


can't think of more at work, but these I keep putting in the "make your set list"

Journey and Boston basically the same band...love them both, great songs and fun to play.

Rod, you need to do the specific impossible challenges to get the achievements, ie Impossible Drum Challenge for An-i-mal and Impossible Guitar Challenge for Lord of the Strings. Beating ANY impossible challenge on expert will get you Buy a Real Instrument Already.

OK thanks, I'll take another look at what challenges I have to do in the lower levels in order to get a guitar specific challenge to appear in the impossible challenges.

My favorites are (on expert unless noted): The Middle, Pinball Wizard, Float On, Everlong on Hard, The Trees, You Oughta Know, That's What You Get.

Least favorites: E-Pro (on expert), Tangled Up In Blue, Everlong on Expert, and a few others I can't think of right now.

Haven't played enough of the super hard songs to include them in either place.

Yeah, I'm using the Omega Pedal w/ the ION kit. You'll just need a mini to 1/4" jack adapter. Recommendation is to use a mono adapter, but i tried a stereo adapter that comes with headphones with no problems.

DaverJ - Do you have a practice pad set up with your Omega Pedal? Or are you just beating it into the base?

I'm leaning towards the Rock Pedal right now, but I don't know if you can add a beater to it (I assume you can, but haven't heard from the manufacturer yet). I want to actually hit a practice pad with the kick pedal...

So drummers -- are we thinking "Visions" is RB2's "Run To the Hills"? :eek:

...At least the Iron Maiden song is cool to listen to. :rolleyes:

I'm leaning towards the Rock Pedal right now, but I don't know if you can add a beater to it (I assume you can, but haven't heard from the manufacturer yet). I want to actually hit a practice pad with the kick pedal...

mine shipped with a beater.

DaverJ - Do you have a practice pad set up with your Omega Pedal? Or are you just beating it into the base?

I'm leaning towards the Rock Pedal right now, but I don't know if you can add a beater to it (I assume you can, but haven't heard from the manufacturer yet). I want to actually hit a practice pad with the kick pedal...

I don't use the omega pedal but my self modded pedal uses a practice pad and it gives a nice even rebound on my hits that can give an extra handicap for fast double hits.

DaverJ - Do you have a practice pad set up with your Omega Pedal? Or are you just beating it into the base?

I'm leaning towards the Rock Pedal right now, but I don't know if you can add a beater to it (I assume you can, but haven't heard from the manufacturer yet). I want to actually hit a practice pad with the kick pedal...


No pracitice pad... the Omega is designed with a clamp that the beater hits, so it can stand alone.

The downside of the Omega is:
- slippery without the original kit's bar supports, so it needs velcro or some weight to prevent it from sliding forward. I use a dumbell to keep it in place.
- if you have a heavy foot (guity :o), the little foam silencers on the backside of the mallet break apart. They are inexpensive, quick and easy to replace, but still a minor inconvenience.
- kicking is somewhat noisey, and very noisey to anyone downstairs. :eek: I'm sure this is true for any solid aftermarket pedal though.

The Rock Pedal looks like a quality solution, and I believe there's a way to attach a beater for a practice pad. I hear the rubber stopper underneath can get worn and needs to replaced from time to time, but if you are using a practice pad I think you remove that stopper anyway. The guy who builds them is active in the RB forums (user name "RockPedal" over there... here's a good thread on it (http://www.rockband.com/forums/showthread.php?t=47433)) and very quick/polite to respond to questions. I'll bet its an excellent solution.

mine shipped with a beater.

Good to know, thanks!

No pracitice pad... the Omega is designed with a clamp that the beater hits, so it can stand alone.

The downside of the Omega is:
- slippery without the original kit's bar supports, so it needs velcro or some weight to prevent it from sliding forward. I use a dumbell to keep it in place.
- if you have a heavy foot (guity :o), the little foam silencers on the backside of the mallet break apart. They are inexpensive, quick and easy to replace, but still a minor inconvenience.
- kicking is somewhat noisey, and very noisey to anyone downstairs. :eek: I'm sure this is true for any solid aftermarket pedal though.

The Rock Pedal looks like a quality solution, and I believe there's a way to attach a beater for a practice pad. I hear the rubber stopper underneath can get worn and needs to replaced from time to time, but if you are using a practice pad I think you remove that stopper anyway. The guy who builds them is active in the RB forums (user name "RockPedal" over there... here's a good thread on it (http://www.rockband.com/forums/showthread.php?t=47433)) and very quick/polite to respond to questions. I'll bet its an excellent solution.

Yeah I think I'll be ordering the Rock Pedal here soon.

I have the rock pedal. I think the mechanics of this one is a lot better than the omega. There's just a magnetic switch welded onto the pedal, it works exactly like the original plastic pedal. It does come with the beater. I asked the guy this before buying one. He said he started out not including them, but apparently everyone wanted em, so he keeps them in now.

As for the Rockpedal beater, there's a rubber plug under the mount for the beater that hits the support bar. That's what you pound on. It will eventually wear out, and someone did post already stating theirs wore out. Not sure how you would fix this, if you can get another stopper or what. I'll eventually get myself a practice pad so I can stop wearing mine down.

If you're gonna get the rock pedal w/practice pad then you might wanna look at this.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TH3pqRNRs1A
My pedal hasn't come in the mail yet but I'll just be glad to have something sturdy.

If you're gonna get the rock pedal w/practice pad then you might wanna look at this.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TH3pqRNRs1A
My pedal hasn't come in the mail yet but I'll just be glad to have something sturdy.

Is that movie good or bad? I can do youtube at work.

For those of you with the ION kit or anyone who uses a different type of aftermarket kit (Goodwood or E-drums), do you know if and how these will be compatible with the other games coming out from guitar hero and rock revolution?

I was checking their write-ups on Amazon and noticed that the stock kits all have different configuartions than RB. The guitar hero has 3 pads, 2 cymbals and a bass pedal (6 pads all together). The Rock Revolution appears to have 6 pads and a bass pedal (7 pads all together). RB, as we all know only charts 4 pads and a bass pedal for a total of 5 pads.

The ION has the cymbals that create more inputs but they are mapped to the same colors as the pads. Is there a way to re-map them so they can play the expanded charts offered by the other games? I use an adaptor for my Roland kit (PS3) and I'm hoping the the developer of it will release a firmware that will allow this, however, in case that doesn't happen, I want to see if I have an alternative.

In my perfect world, I want to own all three games but use only one one drum set. Otherwise, I will need to kick my wife out so I can make room for all of drum sets!

If you're gonna get the rock pedal w/practice pad then you might wanna look at this.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TH3pqRNRs1A
My pedal hasn't come in the mail yet but I'll just be glad to have something sturdy.

It looks like he was adjusting it incorrectly, according to the comments (that link to a video from the Rock Pedal creator with the correct way to adjust it).

For those of you with the ION kit or anyone who uses a different type of aftermarket kit (Goodwood or E-drums), do you know if and how these will be compatible with the other games coming out from guitar hero and rock revolution?

I was checking their write-ups on Amazon and noticed that the stock kits all have different configuartions than RB. The guitar hero has 3 pads, 2 cymbals and a bass pedal (6 pads all together). The Rock Revolution appears to have 6 pads and a bass pedal (7 pads all together). RB, as we all know only charts 4 pads and a bass pedal for a total of 5 pads.

The ION has the cymbals that create more inputs but they are mapped to the same colors as the pads. Is there a way to re-map them so they can play the expanded charts offered by the other games? I use an adaptor for my Roland kit (PS3) and I'm hoping the the developer of it will release a firmware that will allow this, however, in case that doesn't happen, I want to see if I have an alternative.

In my perfect world, I want to own all three games but use only one one drum set. Otherwise, I will need to kick my wife out so I can make room for all of drum sets!

Without an upgrade to the brain, the ION kit will always look like a 4 piece + kick kit to the 360. So for GH:WT, the game will automatically drop the orange note and remap it. As for Rock Revolution, does anyone care???

Now that's not to say ION won't release a firmware upgrade for the brain, allowing a cymbal to be used as orange...

Without an upgrade to the brain, the ION kit will always look like a 4 piece + kick kit to the 360. So for GH:WT, the game will automatically drop the orange note and remap it. As for Rock Revolution, does anyone care???

Now that's not to say ION won't release a firmware upgrade for the brain, allowing a cymbal to be used as orange...

Good point on the Rock Revolution game but I think it would be fun to try a game that has expanded the charts out more to be more like a real drum set. Didn't Konami make Drummania? I have the simulator for that on my PC (DTXMania) and find it brutally hard compared to RB since I use my Roland kit and all of the pads (including my extra crash cymbal). If Rock Revolution is a more friendly looking game compared to Drummania but keeps the gameplay hardness and realness in tact, hard core drummers might prefer it over RB or GH. Its too bad, however, that so many songs are just repeats from RB1.

Without an upgrade to the brain, the ION kit will always look like a 4 piece + kick kit to the 360. So for GH:WT, the game will automatically drop the orange note and remap it. As for Rock Revolution, does anyone care???

Now that's not to say ION won't release a firmware upgrade for the brain, allowing a cymbal to be used as orange...
I disagree. The Ion is already an 8 output device as it differentiates between the pads and cymbals. It's up to Neversoft, the Guitar Hero developer, to utilize that information.

I disagree. The Ion is already an 8 output device as it differentiates between the pads and cymbals. It's up to Neversoft, the Guitar Hero developer, to utilize that information.

The RB2 kit with the cymbal add on is an 8 output device as well, but from what we've been told it will only work like a 4+1, with alternate inputs on 3 of the 4.

The RB2 kit with the cymbal add on is an 8 output device as well, but from what we've been told it will only work like a 4+1, with alternate inputs on 3 of the 4.
Where have we been told that?

Without an upgrade to the brain, the ION kit will always look like a 4 piece + kick kit to the 360. So for GH:WT, the game will automatically drop the orange note and remap it. As for Rock Revolution, does anyone care???

Now that's not to say ION won't release a firmware upgrade for the brain, allowing a cymbal to be used as orange...

Don't the cymbals register as different sounds in the fills? Can't be that hard to make the thing work for GH.

I don't use the omega pedal but my self modded pedal uses a practice pad and it gives a nice even rebound on my hits that can give an extra handicap for fast double hits.I have a Destroyer Pedal (http://rockbandpedal.net/index.html) and would like to second the comments logical made about the benefits of the practice pad. I played on the Destroyer for about 3 months without the practice pad, and then bought the pad, and immediately saw a nice bump in my scores. My bass pedal performance is much better with the practice pad.

Pros: It's slightly quieter than repeatedly stomping down onto the rubber stopper
You don't wear down/chew up the rubber stopper (in fact, you remove it completely)
You get a great rebound from the practice pad, allowing for a much lighter touch, much faster 16th note pedal kicks, and more of a "real bass pedal" feel
Because the rebound makes it so much easier to play (especially songs with bass pedal triple kicks a la Sabbath's Paranoid on Expert or quick doubles a la Creep or Dani California), you can play much longer without fatigue

Cons: It's yet another aftermarket expense for the drums, and they ain't cheap (http://www.guitarcenter.com/Pearl-BD10-Bass-Drum-Practice-Pad-448368-i1140490.gc).
It takes up more room and can be tricky to place directly under the stock kit because of the two cross bars. There's plenty of room for one with the ION kit, however.


Overall, I'm really glad I upgraded to the practice pad. My take:

Real Pedal Mod + Practice Pad > Real Pedal Mod >> Stock Pedal

I just sent an email to ION requesting an RMA for one of my cymbals. It can't keep up with fast high hat parts. Unacceptable. The green one is flaky too, unless I really smack it. I suspect it'll be returned as well.

So, we'll see how good their support is. :)

Where have we been told that?

Activision said it at one point, I'll see if I can dig it up.

Don't the cymbals register as different sounds in the fills? Can't be that hard to make the thing work for GH.

Which is why I think it would just be an upgrade to the brain. Hopefully they'll have a way to just do it over USB from a PC connection or something like that. (That's just complete speculation on my part)

I have a Destroyer Pedal (http://rockbandpedal.net/index.html) and would like to second the comments logical made about the benefits of the practice pad. I played on the Destroyer for about 3 months without the practice pad, and then bought the pad, and immediately saw a nice bump in my scores. My bass pedal performance is much better with the practice pad.

Pros: It's slightly quieter than repeatedly stomping down onto the rubber stopper
You don't wear down/chew up the rubber stopper (in fact, you remove it completely)
You get a great rebound from the practice pad, allowing for a much lighter touch, much faster 16th note pedal kicks, and more of a "real bass pedal" feel
Because the rebound makes it so much easier to play (especially songs with bass pedal triple kicks a la Sabbath's Paranoid on Expert or quick doubles a la Creep or Dani California), you can play much longer without fatigue

Cons: It's yet another aftermarket expense for the drums, and they ain't cheap (http://www.guitarcenter.com/Pearl-BD10-Bass-Drum-Practice-Pad-448368-i1140490.gc).
It takes up more room and can be tricky to place directly under the stock kit because of the two cross bars. There's plenty of room for one with the ION kit, however.


Overall, I'm really glad I upgraded to the practice pad. My take:

Real Pedal Mod + Practice Pad > Real Pedal Mod >> Stock Pedal

Yeah I'm definitely planning on using a pad no matter what pedal I go with. And I'll probably use this one in lieu of that Pearl you posted:
http://www.guitarcenter.com/Gibraltar-GBDP-Bass-Drum-Pad-100253641-i1139033.gc

yeah with teh partice pad I had to remove the front cross bar on the RB2 stock kit and then postion the back cross bar under the actual target pade but between the stand and the bass pedal. since the pad has a pretty thick base the kit is then resting oon the cross bar. SO I had to place some hard cover books under the drumkit base so the kit is now supportting itself. It's a bit awkward looking but it works(still need to perfect my magnet and sensor placement on the pedal though).

Which is why I think it would just be an upgrade to the brain. Hopefully they'll have a way to just do it over USB from a PC connection or something like that. (That's just complete speculation on my part)

The Ion brain sends out 8 signals. It's up to the software (the game) to interpret them. For RockBand, the software/game recognizes each input as separate pads and cymbals during the trainer, freestyle mode, and during fills. For regular gameplay, the RockBand software/game maps the discreet cymbal inputs to the respective color on the charts. For the Ion brain to do this sort of thing in hardware....well, that would actually be really difficult and not such a good idea.

We've also been told that the GHbWT will recognize Rockband controllers and then mix the the 5th pad/cymbal into the 4 others so that the gameplay screen will change from 5+kick to 4+kick. This is also done in software.

Now for the big assumption......and I call it an assumption because I haven't ever seen a quote from Activision or found a link specifically adressing the Ion kit. The assumption is that the GHbWT will recognize the Ion kit as a RockBand controller. Using this assumption, you can then expect GHbWT to show the 4+1 gameplay screen that it will show regular RockBand drum controllers.

It has nothing to do with the Ion controller as all this stuff is done in software.

It would also be easy enough for GHbWT to allow you to use a cymbal from RockBand controllers for the 5th input in it's standard 5+1 gameplay screen. Seriously, it wouldn't be difficult at all. But if you remeber how Activision made sure the guitar controllers wouldn't be compatible between GH3 and RB on the PS3, you can see why I'm assuming that Activision will only allow the crippled 4+1 screen to be used in GHbWt unless you are using an official Activision/RedOctane GHbWT drum controller.

Yeah I hope adding the cymbals to the RB2 kit or the Ions will show in GH:WT as 5+1 (its the only way I'm getting the cymbals pretty much) but my hopes aren't high for it.

But then an extra pad might just make it too difficult for me anyway, as I'm still working on Medium really, though there's times where I feel everything clicking, and other times I fail miserably.

Thanks for the suggestions DaverJ, thejokell, Yrd, AbrtRetryIgnore, and Five One Six!

Interesting to see how long ago the same folks were posting.

I decided to get the ION kit, just not yet...So, I went out and bought the new guitar, and I have to say this thing is night and day compared to my RB1 guitar. The strummer just feels perfect to me. Only problem is my back button doesn't seem to work unless I smash it hard and the mic for auto cal is defunct. Won't pick up any sound apparently. No matter where I put the guitar/speakers. I have small satellite speakers and I held it right up to the microphone hole. Game keeps saying it can't get an audio reading...

The guitar is making me actually want to play guitar again. I despise the click on the GH guitars.

Its too bad, however, that so many songs are just repeats from RB1.
and more importantly, from what i understand, all of the songs are covers...

just a reminder to anyone achievement hunting "so watcha want" on expert = easy flawless singing acheivement. just keep talking at a decent volume and you'll get 100% everytime.

Whoever approved "So Watcha Want" for this game should be fired. I love the Beasties and SWW is probably my favorite song on Check Yo Head but it's a horrible song for Rock Band. I haven't tried the guitar yet but the bass line essentially consists of two notes and the drum part is mind-numbing.

Seeing as I already own a Roland TD-12 kit, can anyone recommend what my best option would be to get it to work with Rock Band? I know there was a DIY mod that took MIDI info and converted it to something RB could understand but I was hoping someone might be selling something to do that so I don't have to futz with building it myself.

My other option was to get a Kickbox and just use my Roland kick pad with the stock RB drums since my drums are not really near my Xbox or a TV but I'm wondering if I should just go full bore and get the whole kit working. Especially since it might be a pain to switch it back and forth between the kit and the RB drums.

Anyone have any suggestions?

Seeing as I already own a Roland TD-12 kit, can anyone recommend what my best option would be to get it to work with Rock Band? I know there was a DIY mod that took MIDI info and converted it to something RB could understand but I was hoping someone might be selling something to do that so I don't have to futz with building it myself.

My other option was to get a Kickbox and just use my Roland kick pad with the stock RB drums since my drums are not really near my Xbox or a TV but I'm wondering if I should just go full bore and get the whole kit working. Especially since it might be a pain to switch it back and forth between the kit and the RB drums.

Anyone have any suggestions?

There was a rumor that the ION drum brain would be selling separately at some point. If true you could just hook your drums up to it.

I don't think anything has been officially announced yet, though.

Seeing as I already own a Roland TD-12 kit, can anyone recommend what my best option would be to get it to work with Rock Band? I know there was a DIY mod that took MIDI info and converted it to something RB could understand but I was hoping someone might be selling something to do that so I don't have to futz with building it myself.

My other option was to get a Kickbox and just use my Roland kick pad with the stock RB drums since my drums are not really near my Xbox or a TV but I'm wondering if I should just go full bore and get the whole kit working. Especially since it might be a pain to switch it back and forth between the kit and the RB drums.

Anyone have any suggestions?

I will post pics of my setup and if you want I could make one for you. You would need to provide the money for the items. The only issue would be I would need your RB drum set as you need to have 6 wires connected to it. I use the MSA-P MIDI decoder from highlyliquid.com

Seeing as I already own a Roland TD-12 kit, can anyone recommend what my best option would be to get it to work with Rock Band? I know there was a DIY mod that took MIDI info and converted it to something RB could understand but I was hoping someone might be selling something to do that so I don't have to futz with building it myself.

My other option was to get a Kickbox and just use my Roland kick pad with the stock RB drums since my drums are not really near my Xbox or a TV but I'm wondering if I should just go full bore and get the whole kit working. Especially since it might be a pain to switch it back and forth between the kit and the RB drums.

Anyone have any suggestions?

There's also the possibility of the MadCats portable drum set being the brain. They aren't out yet so I don't think there's a definite answer yet. $70 for that set. There's pictures of the set showing detachable pads going to a little NES looking controller. Only shows the 5 inputs though, so who knows if it can take the extra cymbals.

and more importantly, from what i understand, all of the songs are covers...

:eek::eek::eek::eek: Did not know that!!!:eek::eek::eek::eek:

:eek::eek::eek::eek: Did not know that!!!:eek::eek::eek::eek:

Yep - I can't believe Konami thinks it's a good idea to release that game now.

Thanks for the replies guys. Actually, now that I think about it, isn't the GH:WT kit supposed to come with a MIDI in?

I will post pics of my setup and if you want I could make one for you. You would need to provide the money for the items. The only issue would be I would need your RB drum set as you need to have 6 wires connected to it. I use the MSA-P MIDI decoder from highlyliquid.com

I'd love to see some pics. How do you find playing RB with your kit?

I appreciate the offer to build the piece for me but I have enough experience with electronics to do it myself, I was just hoping I wouldn't have to at this point :p

just a reminder to anyone achievement hunting "so watcha want" on expert = easy flawless singing acheivement. just keep talking at a decent volume and you'll get 100% everytime.

Thanks for the tip, I have to give that a shot. The Stephen and the Colberts song was easy street for the drums and bass achievements for me, but since I am one of the most 'orrible singers in the universe this will really need to be as simple as you say. :D

Whoever approved "So Watcha Want" for this game should be fired. I love the Beasties and SWW is probably my favorite song on Check Yo Head but it's a horrible song for Rock Band. I haven't tried the guitar yet but the bass line essentially consists of two notes and the drum part is mind-numbing.

It's painfully boring on guitar as well.

just a reminder to anyone achievement hunting "so watcha want" on expert = easy flawless singing acheivement. just keep talking at a decent volume and you'll get 100% everytime.
Some people on the forum were implying that you don't need to do ANYTHING to get the 100%, talk or sing or anything. I haven't tested this out (nor do I intend to.)

just a reminder to anyone achievement hunting "so watcha want" on expert = easy flawless singing acheivement. just keep talking at a decent volume and you'll get 100% everytime.

You can also hold the mic up to a speaker and get this as well. I got the flawless vocals and gold star achievement this way.

Some people on the forum were implying that you don't need to do ANYTHING to get the 100%, talk or sing or anything. I haven't tested this out (nor do I intend to.)There's a YouTube video of someone reciting the Declaration of Independence non-stop for one of the "talkie" songs and getting 100%.

Kinda sad...yet patriotic!

lol yeah I actually tried rapping teh actual song "so watcha want" and it was justs ort of annoying considering all 3 of them alternate and I'm expected to do their 3 part seamlessly. so maybe the brutal easy-ness of it was good. WIth that said "master exploder" and "chop suey" are way way way more fun to sing. and I 100%'d BYOB after doing so watcha want(I'm a huge SOAD fan).

Some people on the forum were implying that you don't need to do ANYTHING to get the 100%, talk or sing or anything. I haven't tested this out (nor do I intend to.)

I just tried it out the Beastie Boys song on Expert vocals -- no sound will fail out the song.

Next I put the mic in-between the headphones. The result was 100% with a 55 phrase streak "flawless", but no gold stars because it never went into overdrive and was idle during the tapping parts.

Then I turned up the TV and held the mic to the speakers. When the overdrive came I tapped the mic (mostly in the worst places to activate OD) and tapped the during the "beats" section -- same as above except gold stars.

But no flawless singing achievement because my drumset was still logged in as my gamertag, not the mic. :rolleyes: So I tried a third time, this time they offered extra money or fans if I didn't go into overdrive -- time for the headphones again. :D Achievement Unlocked - 25G Flawless Singing.

This is soooo cheating -- I feel dirty. :p

(EDIT: the above was just an experiment while bored at home, but now these cheap gamerpoints and handful of fans/money is haunting me. I really wish I didn't even try this. :( )

Hey if its confession time, my LP got the EVH treatment to cover my tracks from taping down the whammy bar (GH3 RTTH achievement).

I feel better now.:)

http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q233/cueCrew/1222376597-1.jpg

i gave breakneck speed a try last night and so far so good. i'm going to stick with it for a while and see how i adapt.

i gave breakneck speed a try last night and so far so good. i'm going to stick with it for a while and see how i adapt.

I never wanted to waste time with it. Is it like the faster scroll speed for expert or is it something completely different?

So I found out from the official boards, the guitar's auto calibrate does not work unless your profile has vibration enabled.

So I found out from the official boards, the guitar's auto calibrate does not work unless your profile has vibration enabled.

Okay, that's just weird. Was that intentional or just a bug?

Some people on the forum were implying that you don't need to do ANYTHING to get the 100%, talk or sing or anything. I haven't tested this out (nor do I intend to.)

I can't stand death metal but I had a great laugh when my dear wife got the perfect singing achievement on the song Visions by Abnormality! :eek::D

Okay, that's just weird. Was that intentional or just a bug?


I guess it's intentional. It's using the vibration circuitry to do mic/camera instead is my assumption.

Okay, that's just weird. Was that intentional or just a bug?

I'd say it's a design flaw since it 's likely that HMX used the controller electronics intended for vibration control for the light and audio sensors on the guitar.

boom:
Hey everybody,

We're proud to announce next week's content for DLC - Red Hot Chili Pepper's Blood Sugar Sex Magik full album. One track, Give It Away is available on the disc of Rock Band 2.


Album: Blood Sugar Sex Magik

The Power of Equality
If You Have to Ask
Breaking the Girl
Funky Monks
Suck My Kiss
I Could Have Lied
Mellowship Slinky in B Major
The Righteous & The Wicked
Blood Sugar Sex Magik
Under the Bridge
Naked in the Rain
Apache Rose Peacock
The Greeting Song
My Lovely Man
Sir Psycho Sexy
They're Red Hot

The full album of Blood Sugar Sex Magik will be available for $19.99 (1600 Microsoft Points). Each track will also be available for $1.99 individually (160 Microsoft Points). The album will be available on Tuesday, September 30th on Xbox 360, and Thursday, October 2nd on PS3.

boom:Hey everybody,

We're proud to announce next week's content for DLC - Red Hot Chili Pepper's Blood Sugar Sex Magik full album.
Nice. The Chili Pepper's stuff is always really fun to play.*

* except for "Snow (Hey Oh)" on Expert Guitar. Ouch.

* except for "snow (hey oh)" on expert guitar. Ouch.+1

$43 of dlc in 7 day timespan... :eek: :D

Is any retailer selling the bundle early yet?

alright, i got really into playing the drums lately, and i have one problem. the sticks, usually the one i'm holding in my right hand, always slides down my hand. i'll be completely in the zone, with a nice streak going, then i'll miss hit a rim or hit above the pad because the stick slid all the way up my hand and i hit way too high. i'm just curious, does this happen to anyone else here, and if so is there anything i can do to prevent it...

right now i'm using 5A Zildjian Anti-Vibe Drumsticks. i hit heavy, so i don't know if that has anything to do with it, and i really like the way they hit...

alright, i got really into playing the drums lately, and i have one problem. the sticks, usually the one i'm holding in my right hand, always slides down my hand. i'll be completely in the zone, with a nice streak going, then i'll miss hit a rim or hit above the pad because the stick slid all the way up my hand and i hit way too high. i'm just curious, does this happen to anyone else here, and if so is there anything i can do to prevent it...

right now i'm using 5A Zildjian Anti-Vibe Drumsticks. i hit heavy, so i don't know if that has anything to do with it, and i really like the way they hit...

Try these:

http://www.guitarcenter.com/Zildjian-DIP-Drumsticks-441570-i1136058.gc

They're the Zildjian DIP sticks...the rubber coating makes them slightly tacky and much harder to drop/slip around. I use the nylon tipped 7a sticks and like 'em a lot. If you like the heavier 5a, they sell those dipped, as well.

Try these:

http://www.guitarcenter.com/Zildjian-DIP-Drumsticks-441570-i1136058.gc

They're the Zildjian DIP sticks...the rubber coating makes them slightly tacky and much harder to drop/slip around. I use the nylon tipped 7a sticks and like 'em a lot. If you like the heavier 5a, they sell those dipped, as well.

I have no idea how these grades work for drum sticks, 5a, 7a is the weight/size? What size would the stock rock band sticks be considered?

I have no idea how these grades work for drum sticks, 5a, 7a is the weight/size? What size would the stock rock band sticks be considered?

Stock sticks with the RB drums are 7a. Most rock drummers use 5a or 5b. Here's a bit of info:
http://www.howtoplaydrums.com/selecting-drumsticks/

Stock sticks with the RB drums are 7a. Most rock drummers use 5a or 5b. Here's a bit of info:
http://www.howtoplaydrums.com/selecting-drumsticks/

From what I understand, not ALL of the ones that come with the drums are 7A, there's been a few different types included.

Is any retailer selling the bundle early yet?

Th ebundles will probably start hitting store shelves around teh end of october so the launch date is october 29th(I think) the bundles may be arriving as earky as a week before hand. Now whether stores iwll keep a street date on it remains a mystery. I mean the game and all teh instruments in teh bundle are already. Not much of an incentiuve to hold them in the back and take up all that space.

From what I understand, not ALL of the ones that come with the drums are 7A, there's been a few different types included.

Gotcha. I know that both my kits (launch kit and RB2 wireless kit) came with 7a sticks.

Stock sticks with the RB drums are 7a. Most rock drummers use 5a or 5b. Here's a bit of info:
http://www.howtoplaydrums.com/selecting-drumsticks/

I'm pretty sure most of the RB1 bundles shipped with 5A sticks. I know mine did. I switched to 7A nylon-tipped Zildjian dips and love them.

To the stick asker dude: I don't know the defition of the numbers and the letters, but 5As are longer and heavier than 7As, and the Bs are longer and heavier that the A counterpart for each number.

I'm going to try some 5A or 5B sticks again with my Ions. I'm hoping the heavier stick will trigger the cymbals easier. I switched to the 7As with my pre-order RB1 kit that was super sensitive, and I loved the lighter weight and increased quickness and control the dips offered. I developed a pretty light touch on the RB1 pads that worked on them, but I'm starting to think I need a heavier hand on the Ions.


Speaking of which...does anybody have know what is the best Ion mod resource site and have a link? I wanted a better cymbal for my hi-hat, and I'm thinking it would be fun to try and build some kind of mesh contraption if I could find out what the cymbal sensor in the Ion is and where to get one.

Gotcha. I know that both my kits (launch kit and RB2 wireless kit) came with 7a sticks.

That's weird. I remember there was a lot of discussion about this when RB1 first came out and I don't remember anyone reporting 7As with the kits. Oh well.

I suggest going to Guitar Center and getting a pair of each 5A and 7A and see what you like best. They're under $10 a pair so it's not a big expense.

Is anyone having any problems with the sensitivity on the green pad with the EL model RB2 wireless drums? I play lefty mode, and the green pad is my snare drum pad. It seems that I have to hit it a little harder than the other pads and I notice that the green pad is definitely not as sensitive as the other pads...?

Is anyone having any problems with the sensitivity on the green pad with the RB2 wireless drums? I play lefty mode, and the green pad is my snare drum pad. It seems that I have to hit it a little harder than the other pads and I notice that the green pad is definitely not as sensitive as the other pads...?

My roommate tried it out when I first got them, and she's never played before, but seemed to have a slight issue on green. I haven't had any problem myself with it, but maybe I hit harded.

The triplets and I just finished the "Impossible Challenge Marathon" thing. And I just wanted to say that "Battery" was the best combination of challenging and fun metal-riffic mayhem on any "stock" song yet. Not that anyone cares, I just felt like hearing myself talk!

I use the nylon tipped 7a sticks and like 'em a lot. If you like the heavier 5a, they sell those dipped, as well.

I switched to 7A nylon-tipped Zildjian dips and love them.
i'm just curious, why do you guys prefer the nylon tips over the wood tips? i figured the wood tips would work better with RB, because nylon tips break easier, and the tips take a lot of abuse hitting pads opposed to real drum heads. am i missing something?

i'm just curious, why do you guys prefer the nylon tips over the wood tips? i figured the wood tips would work better with RB, because nylon tips break easier, and the tips take a lot of abuse hitting pads opposed to real drum heads. am i missing something?Well, the nylon tips don't splinter like the wood tips can (although they can just fall off, but I haven't had that happen), so I figure that'll keep them from shredding my silencer pads.

On real drums, nylon tips make different (sharper) sounds than the wood tips, but for RB drums, I don't think it really matters. But consensus seems to be that the wood tips are probably going to be a little harder on the equipment.

And for the record, the sticks I got with my RB1 bundle were definitely 5a sticks. Slightly longer and noticeably heavier than the 7a sticks I now use. I had to switch away from the stock 5a sticks to lighter ones as my RB1 kit started to deteriorate...the 5As were causing the drum pads to make scary cracking sounds on almost every pad. That stopped with the lighter 7a sticks. Since they're lighter and therefore have less impact, I think they do less damage over time.

i'm just curious, why do you guys prefer the nylon tips over the wood tips? i figured the wood tips would work better with RB, because nylon tips break easier, and the tips take a lot of abuse hitting pads opposed to real drum heads. am i missing something?

They are supposed to be less damaging to electronic drum heads.



I got my RMA pedal and guitar in the mail. Anyone had any issues with their RMA? The guitar they sent feels like the green button might be bad. I haven't plugged it in yet, just wondering how I'm supposed to get it replaced, do I have to RMA my RMA?

They are supposed to be less damaging to electronic drum heads.



I got my RMA pedal and guitar in the mail. Anyone had any issues with their RMA? The guitar they sent feels like the green button might be bad. I haven't plugged it in yet, just wondering how I'm supposed to get it replaced, do I have to RMA my RMA?
Yep. You have to RMA your RMA. I went through the process 3 times.

So..... I just finished the endless setlist 2 on hard drums. I wouldn't recommend doing this, ever. Started at around 3pm and ended just now before midnight. I didn't really time it but I had at least a 3-4 hours of break time.

Took me 3 tries to complete both Panic Attack and Visions on hard, the only songs I failed out of. It would be really nice if they didn't sort it by way of difficulty, so you mix some of the hard songs up front.

PDA and There Goes the Neighborhood have got to be the worst songs in the game. Horrible abrasive sounding music, the interpol singer is just bad and the libians band is the epitome of true punk - sounds like ****.

i was just wondering if anyone here uses or has ever tried the MCU Dual Pads from Drumsoft? i'm using a RB1 drum kit, and i tried the licensed RB silencers (which i think are made by Pinnacle), and they weren't very good. the clanking actually doesn't bother me personally, but i have noticed in the past that if a group of people are playing it's distracting to the other people playing the other instruments. i'm really asking because they're expensive at $29.99, and i would really hate to order something like that and be stuck with them if they didn't work well...

and guys, thanks for the advise about the the 7a Dips. i picked up a pair at a local Guitar Center yesterday and i like them much better than the 5a Anti-Vibes that i was using before. the fact that they're lighter definitely helps me play better, and the rubber is just a bonus. i tried the wood tips, but exchanged them today for the nylon tips when you guys recommended them instead, and i REALLY like them a lot. and i don't know if it's just me or not, but it sounds to me like the clanking is a bit louder with the nylon tips after trying both, but i could have just been the fact that i only played 2 songs with the wood tips and it could have just been those 2 songs...

and again, thanks for the advice, it really worked out well. now, all i need to do is to look into the MCU Dual Pads and Mega Pedal replacement pedal for OEM pedal, and i should be set...

i was just wondering if anyone here uses or has ever tried the MCU Dual Pads from Drumsoft? i'm using a RB1 drum kit, and i tried the licensed RB silencers (which i think are made by Pinnacle), and they weren't very good. the clanking actually doesn't bother me personally, but i have noticed in the past that if a group of people are playing it's distracting to the other people playing the other instruments. i'm really asking because they're expensive at $29.99, and i would really hate to order something like that and be stuck with them if they didn't work well...

I posted a detailed review of a few different drum silencer pads on this forum a few months ago:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=14340798#post14340798

It covers three silencer types: DIY felt/foam pads, RocPadz, and the MCU Dual pads. For the record, the MCU Duals began cratering and pitting badly after a couple months, but they are still as functional as described in that review. Since I'm due to get my GoodWoodMods stealth head drums this week, in a few days I won't have to worry about silencer pads anymore. (I'm very excited.)

and guys, thanks for the advise about the the 7a Dips. i picked up a pair at a local Guitar Center yesterday and i like them much better than the 5a Anti-Vibes that i was using before. the fact that they're lighter definitely helps me play better, and the rubber is just a bonus. i tried the wood tips, but exchanged them today for the nylon tips when you guys recommended them instead, and i REALLY like them a lot. and i don't know if it's just me or not, but it sounds to me like the clanking is a bit louder with the nylon tips after trying both, but i could have just been the fact that i only played 2 songs with the wood tips and it could have just been those 2 songs...

and again, thanks for the advice, it really worked out well. now, all i need to do is to look into the MCU Dual Pads and Mega Pedal replacement pedal for OEM pedal, and i should be set...Glad you like them.

And your ears weren't deceiving you. The nylon tips, being more rigid than wood, do give a slightly sharper "ping," but it's a fairly subtle difference that most people probably wouldn't have noticed. Some (real) drummers will switch between wood tips (slightly more muted) and nylon tips (sharper ping) depending upon the song for the different sounds they give on ride cymbals and the like. On the plus side, the nylon tips don't splinter like wood, so they're typically less damaging to the drum kit.

i was just wondering if anyone here uses or has ever tried the MCU Dual Pads from Drumsoft? i'm using a RB1 drum kit, and i tried the licensed RB silencers (which i think are made by Pinnacle), and they weren't very good. the clanking actually doesn't bother me personally, but i have noticed in the past that if a group of people are playing it's distracting to the other people playing the other instruments. i'm really asking because they're expensive at $29.99, and i would really hate to order something like that and be stuck with them if they didn't work well...

and guys, thanks for the advise about the the 7a Dips. i picked up a pair at a local Guitar Center yesterday and i like them much better than the 5a Anti-Vibes that i was using before. the fact that they're lighter definitely helps me play better, and the rubber is just a bonus. i tried the wood tips, but exchanged them today for the nylon tips when you guys recommended them instead, and i REALLY like them a lot. and i don't know if it's just me or not, but it sounds to me like the clanking is a bit louder with the nylon tips after trying both, but i could have just been the fact that i only played 2 songs with the wood tips and it could have just been those 2 songs...

and again, thanks for the advice, it really worked out well. now, all i need to do is to look into the MCU Dual Pads and Mega Pedal replacement pedal for OEM pedal, and i should be set...

I'm using the MCU dual. I don't know that I would get them again. They give a little better rebound and a small noise reduction. But I really never compared head to head with and without them. They are now getting pock marks on my yellow and green pads.

I broke down and ordered the Ion set, should be here today or tomorrow. So won't much matter anymore. DaverJ is probably the most experience with all this crap. He's tried pretty much every thing there is, I think. Sounded like gum rubber might have been the best option.

My red MCU dual pad starting breaking up after a week of heavy use. They sent me gum rubber as a replacement, which helped greatly in rebound, but not sound. The adhesive on those failed fairly quickly and by that time, I had already ordered the Ions and didn't bother buying a can of adhesive spray. MCU is not recommended (by me.)