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miata
11-22-07, 03:56 AM
My DVD disc cataloging software has this statistical function that I rarely use, but I recently noticed something that alarmed me. The software keeps track of the number of discs I own by "theatrical release year." The thing that surprised me is that 2007 is ranked #16 in frequency. I've listed the actual number below. Also, all but one of my 2007 theatrical release purchases have been HDM. I realize that 2007 is not over yet, but I was wondering if others were seeing similar patterns.

Based on my own buying patterns as a single data point I would say that 2007 is a terrible year to depend on for accelerating HDM.

Do others have similar or contrasting statistics? Am I that far off center?

Theatrical Release Date:

2007: 9
2006: 45
2005: 47
2004: 56
2003: 48
2002: 28
2001: 23
2000: 19
1999: 18
1998: 13
1997: 17
1996: 8
1995: 11
1994: 11
1993: 11
1991: 9
1990: 7
1989: 3
1988: 4
1987: 9


Movie list by year:

20-Nov-07 (HD DVD) Next
13-Oct-07 (Blu-ray) Surf's Up
29-Sep-07 (Blu-ray) Fantastic Four - Rise Of The Silver Surfer
11-Sep-07 (Blu-ray) Nature's Journey
3-Aug-07 (Blu-ray) 300
29-Jun-07 (Blu-ray) Ratatouille
18-May-07 (HD DVD) Shrek the Third
30-Mar-07 (Blu-ray) Meet the Robinsons
16-Feb-07 Ghost Rider
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22-Dec-06 Night at the Museum
15-Dec-06 Charlotte's Web
15-Dec-06 The Pursuit of Happyness
22-Nov-06 Deja Vu
20-Nov-06 (Blu-ray) Black Book
20-Nov-06 (Blu-ray) Lives of Others
10-Nov-06 Babel
10-Nov-06 A Good Year
6-Oct-06 The Departed
29-Sep-06 (Blu-ray) Apocalypto
29-Sep-06 (Blu-ray) Open Season
17-Sep-06 (Blu-ray) Deja Vu
2-Sep-06 (Blu-ray) Curse of the Golden Flower
28-Aug-06 Deja Vu (Blu-ray)
27-Aug-06 (Blu-ray) Night at the Museum
27-Aug-06 (Blu-ray) Pirates of the Caribbean - Dead Man's Chest
26-Aug-06 (Blu-ray) Discovery Atlas: China Revealed
26-Aug-06 (Blu-ray) Happy Feet
26-Aug-06 (HD DVD) V for Vendetta
25-Aug-06 The Cheetah Girls 2
8-Aug-06 Bring It On - All Or Nothing
28-Jul-06 The Ant Bully
21-Jul-06 Monster House
8-Jul-06 (Blu-ray) Casino Royale
7-Jul-06 Pirates of the Caribbean - Dead Man's Chest
30-Jun-06 (Blu-ray) The Devil Wears Prada
30-Jun-06 The Devil Wears Prada
28-Jun-06 Superman Returns
16-Jun-06 The Fast and the Furious - Tokyo Drift
9-Jun-06 Cars
19-May-06 The Da Vinci Code
19-May-06 Over the Hedge
5-May-06 Mission - Impossible III
28-Apr-06 Akeelah and the Bee
7-Apr-06 Lucky Number Slevin
7-Apr-06 Take the Lead
31-Mar-06 Ice Age - The Meltdown
24-Mar-06 Inside Man
17-Mar-06 V for Vendetta
10-Mar-06 The Hills Have Eyes
17-Feb-06 Freedomland
10-Feb-06 Firewall
3-Feb-06 White Noise
27-Jan-06 Big Momma's House 2
20-Jan-06 The New World
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23-Dec-05 Memoirs of a Geisha
21-Dec-05 Cheaper By the Dozen 2
21-Dec-05 Fun with Dick and Jane
14-Dec-05 King Kong
9-Dec-05 The Chronicles of Narnia - The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe
9-Dec-05 Syriana
2-Dec-05 Aeon Flux
23-Nov-05 Pride & Prejudice
20-Nov-05 (HD DVD) Pride and Prejudice
18-Nov-05 Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire
18-Nov-05 Walk the Line
28-Oct-05 Prime
21-Oct-05 Dreamer - Inspired By a True Story
14-Oct-05 Good Night, And, Good Luck
7-Oct-05 Wallace & Gromit - The Curse of the Were-Rabbit
30-Sep-05 A History of Violence
30-Sep-05 Serenity
23-Sep-05 Flightplan
23-Sep-05 Tim Burton's Corpse Bride
22-Sep-05 (Blu-ray) Sahara
3-Sep-05 (Blu-ray) Corpse Bride
3-Sep-05 (Blu-ray) Transporter 2
2-Sep-05 Transporter 2
22-Jul-05 The Island
22-Jul-05 March of the Penguins
15-Jul-05 Charlie and the Chocolate Factory
15-Jul-05 Wedding Crashers - Unrated
11-Jul-05 (HD DVD) Digital Video Essentials HD
8-Jul-05 Fantastic Four
29-Jun-05 War of the Worlds
15-Jun-05 Batman Begins
10-Jun-05 Mr. & Mrs. Smith
27-May-05 Madagascar
19-May-05 Star Wars - Episode III, Revenge of the Sith
6-May-05 Crash
6-May-05 Kingdom of Heaven
29-Apr-05 The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy
1-Apr-05 Sin City
18-Mar-05 The Ring Two
11-Mar-05 Hostage
11-Mar-05 Robots
4-Mar-05 Be Cool
15-Feb-05 Donnie Darko - The Director's Cut
1-Feb-05 (HD DVD) King Kong
1-Feb-05 (HD DVD) Matador
28-Jan-05 Hide and Seek
14-Jan-05 Racing Stripes
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25-Dec-04 The Aviator
22-Dec-04 Meet The Fockers
17-Dec-04 Lemony Snicket's A Series of Unfortunate Events
10-Dec-04 Ocean's Twelve
3-Dec-04 Closer
19-Nov-04 National Treasure
10-Nov-04 The Polar Express
5-Nov-04 The Incredibles
29-Oct-04 Ray
22-Oct-04 The Grudge
15-Oct-04 Shall We Dance?
8-Oct-04 Friday Night Lights
1-Oct-04 Shark Tale
26-Sep-04 (Blu-ray) Alexander Revisited
17-Sep-04 Sky Captain and the World of Tomorrow
3-Sep-04 (Blu-ray) Resident Evil - Apocalypse
2-Sep-04 (Blu-ray) House of Flying Daggers
28-Aug-04 (HD DVD) Phantom of the Opera
27-Aug-04 (HD DVD) Bourne Supremacy
27-Aug-04 Hero
26-Aug-04 (Blu-ray) Hellboy
13-Aug-04 AVP - Alien Vs. Predator
11-Aug-04 The Princess Diaries 2 - Royal Engagement
6-Aug-04 Collateral
23-Jul-04 The Bourne Supremacy
16-Jul-04 I, Robot
9-Jul-04 Sleepover
8-Jul-04 (Blu-ray) Layer Cake
5-Jul-04 Godzilla - Final Wars
30-Jun-04 (Blu-ray) Spider-Man - The High Definition Trilogy
30-Jun-04 Spider-Man 2
25-Jun-04 Fahrenheit 9/11
18-Jun-04 Dodgeball - A True Underdog Story
18-Jun-04 The Terminal
11-Jun-04 The Chronicles of Riddick
4-Jun-04 Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban
3-Jun-04 (HD DVD) Chronicles of Riddick
28-May-04 The Day After Tomorrow
19-May-04 Shrek 2
14-May-04 Troy
7-May-04 Gojira / Godzilla Deluxe Collector's Edition
23-Apr-04 Man on Fire
16-Apr-04 Kill Bill, Volume 2
9-Apr-04 The Whole Ten Yards
19-Mar-04 Dawn of the Dead
5-Mar-04 Starsky & Hutch
25-Feb-04 District B13
20-Feb-04 Confessions of a Teenage Drama Queen
1-Feb-04 Alexander (WS/Spec Ed/2PK)
1-Feb-04 Catwoman
1-Feb-04 Downfall
1-Feb-04 The Lord of the Rings - The Motion Picture Trilogy
1-Feb-04 The Lord of the Rings - The Return of the King
1-Feb-04 Napoleon Dynamite
23-Jan-04 Before Sunset
13-Jan-04 Bring it On Again
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25-Dec-03 Paycheck
5-Dec-03 The Last Samurai
26-Nov-03 The Haunted Mansion
21-Nov-03 Dr. Seuss' The Cat In The Hat
14-Nov-03 Love Actually
14-Nov-03 Master and Commander - The Far Side of the World
5-Nov-03 The Matrix Revolutions
1-Nov-03 Brother Bear
17-Oct-03 Runaway Jury
17-Oct-03 The Texas Chainsaw Massacre
10-Oct-03 Kill Bill, Volume 1
3-Oct-03 Lost in Translation
3-Oct-03 School of Rock
12-Sep-03 Once Upon a Time in Mexico
3-Sep-03 (Blu-ray) The Italian Job
27-Aug-03 (Blu-ray) Pirates of the Caribbean - The Curse of the Black Pearl
26-Aug-03 (Blu-ray) Last Samurai
15-Aug-03 Freddy vs. Jason
15-Aug-03 Open Range
15-Aug-03 Uptown Girls
8-Aug-03 S.W.A.T.
6-Aug-03 Freaky Friday
1-Aug-03 Bend It Like Beckham
25-Jul-03 Lara Croft Tomb Raider - The Cradle of Life
25-Jul-03 Seabiscuit
9-Jul-03 Pirates of the Caribbean - The Curse of the Black Pearl
8-Jul-03 (Blu-ray) Identity
8-Jul-03 (Blu-ray) Tears of the Sun
4-Jul-03 Whale Rider
2-Jul-03 Legally Blonde / Legally Blonde 2 - Red, White and Blonde
2-Jul-03 Terminator 3 - Rise of the Machines
20-Jun-03 Hulk
13-Jun-03 Rugrats! Go Wild
30-May-03 Finding Nemo
30-May-03 The Italian Job
27-May-03 Led Zeppelin
15-May-03 The Matrix Reloaded
2-May-03 The Lizzie McGuire Movie
18-Apr-03 Holes
14-Mar-03 Agent Cody Banks
7-Mar-03 Tears of the Sun
14-Feb-03 Daredevil
1-Feb-03 (HD DVD) Terminator 3 - Rise of the Machines
1-Feb-03 Dora the Explorer - City of Lost Toys
1-Feb-03 The Dreamers
1-Feb-03 Swimming Pool
23-Jan-03 Coffee and Cigarettes
1-Jan-03 Spy Kids 3-D Game Over
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18-Dec-02 The Lord of the Rings - The Two Towers
22-Nov-02 Die Another Day
15-Nov-02 Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets
11-Oct-02 (Blu-ray) The Transporter
11-Oct-02 The Transporter
28-Aug-02 (HD DVD) Bourne Identity
16-Aug-02 Blue Crush
9-Aug-02 XXX
7-Aug-02 Spy Kids 2 - The Island of Lost Dreams
2-Aug-02 My Big Fat Greek Wedding
19-Jul-02 Stuart Little 2
18-Jul-02 (Blu-ray) Hart's War
12-Jul-02 (Blu-ray) Reign of Fire
12-Jul-02 Reign of Fire
3-Jul-02 Men in Black II
21-Jun-02 Minority Report
14-Jun-02 The Bourne Identity
16-May-02 Star Wars - Episode II, Attack of the Clones
26-Apr-02 Jason X
15-Mar-02 Ice Age
15-Mar-02 Resident Evil
26-Feb-02 Sade - Lovers Live
8-Feb-02 Monster's Ball
1-Feb-02 Frida
1-Feb-02 The Santa Clause 2 - The Mrs. Clause
1-Feb-02 The Sum of All Fears
1-Feb-02 Treasure Planet
23-Jan-02 Blade II
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7-Dec-01 Ocean's Eleven
2-Nov-01 Monsters, Inc.
28-Sep-01 Zoolander
3-Sep-01 (Blu-ray) Pearl Harbor
26-Aug-01 (Blu-ray) Final Fantasy - The Spirits Within
3-Aug-01 The Princess Diaries
22-Jun-01 The Fast and the Furious
3-Jun-01 (HD DVD) Lara Croft: Tomb Raider
8-May-01 (HD DVD) Swordfish
13-Feb-01 (HD DVD) Mummy Returns
1-Feb-01 (HD DVD) Training Day
1-Feb-01 A.I. - Artificial Intelligence
1-Feb-01 Digital Video Essentials: Optimize Your Home Entertainment System
1-Feb-01 The Godfather DVD Collection
1-Feb-01 Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone
1-Feb-01 Mulholland Drive
1-Feb-01 Pearl Harbor
1-Feb-01 Spy Kids
1-Feb-01 Wasabi
23-Jan-01 Amélie
23-Jan-01 Barbie in The Nutcracker
23-Jan-01 Black Hawk Down
5-Jan-01 Chocolat
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3-Dec-00 Frank Herbert's Dune
17-Nov-00 Rugrats in Paris - The Movie
6-Oct-00 Meet the Parents
19-Sep-00 The Little Mermaid II - Return to the Sea
28-Aug-00 (Blu-ray) Gone in 60 Seconds
27-Aug-00 (HD DVD) Meet the Parents
14-Jul-00 X-Men Collection
28-Jun-00 (Blu-ray) The Patriot
9-Jun-00 Gone in 60 Seconds
1-Feb-00 Gladiator
1-Feb-00 Memento
1-Feb-00 Mission - Impossible II
1-Feb-00 U-571
23-Jan-00 Amores Perros
23-Jan-00 Baby Einstein - Baby Mozart - Music Festival
23-Jan-00 Billy Elliot
23-Jan-00 Bring It On
23-Jan-00 Chicken Run
7-Jan-00 Snow Falling on Cedars
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17-Dec-99 Stuart Little
24-Nov-99 Toy Story 2
19-Nov-99 James Bond - The World Is Not Enough
8-Nov-99 (Blu-ray) Eyes Wide Shut
6-Aug-99 The Iron Giant
16-Jul-99 Eyes Wide Shut
18-Jun-99 Tarzan
11-Jun-99 The Red Violin
31-Mar-99 The Matrix
5-Mar-99 Analyze This
12-Feb-99 Tango
1-Feb-99 Godzilla 2000
1-Feb-99 The Green Mile
1-Feb-99 The Sixth Sense
1-Feb-99 Star Wars - Episode I, The Phantom Menace
1-Feb-99 The Virgin Suicides
23-Jan-99 American Beauty
23-Jan-99 The AVIA Guide to Home Theater
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25-Nov-98 A Bug's Life
20-Nov-98 The Rugrats Movie
23-Oct-98 Life Is Beautiful
25-Sep-98 Ronin
29-Jul-98 The Negotiator
17-Jul-98 The Mask of Zorro
11-Jul-98 (Blu-ray) Enemy of the State
1-Jul-98 Armageddon
19-May-98 Godzilla
10-Apr-98 City of Angels
3-Apr-98 Lost in Space
6-Mar-98 U.S. Marshals
13-Feb-98 Sphere
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19-Dec-97 Titanic
19-Dec-97 Tomorrow Never Dies
7-Nov-97 Starship Troopers
24-Oct-97 Gattaca
3-Oct-97 U Turn
19-Sep-97 L.A. Confidential
28-Aug-97 (Blu-ray) Donnie Brasco
13-Aug-97 The Full Monty - Fully Exposed Edition
25-Jul-97 Air Force One
18-Jul-97 (Blu-ray) Fifth Element
6-Jul-97 (Blu-ray) Seven Years in Tibet
6-Jul-97 Donnie Brasco (Blu-ray)
2-Jul-97 Men in Black
20-Jun-97 Batman & Robin
9-May-97 The Fifth Element
11-Apr-97 Anaconda
1-Feb-97 Open Your Eyes
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13-Dec-96 Mars Attacks!
15-Nov-96 The English Patient
13-Oct-96 (Blu-ray) Mission Impossible
11-Oct-96 The Long Kiss Goodnight
3-Jul-96 Independence Day
21-Jun-96 Eraser
22-May-96 Mission: Impossible
12-Apr-96 James and the Giant Peach
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15-Dec-95 Jumanji
22-Nov-95 Toy Story
17-Nov-95 Goldeneye
11-Sep-95 Sailor Moon SuperS - Pegasus Collection 7
25-Aug-95 Desperado
28-Jul-95 (HD DVD) Waterworld
28-Jul-95 Waterworld
19-Jul-95 Clueless
30-Jun-95 Apollo 13
27-Jan-95 Before Sunrise
13-Jan-95 Legends of the Fall
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16-Dec-94 Jim Carrey 3-Pack
22-Nov-94 The Eagles: Hell Freezes Over
18-Nov-94 Leon - The Professional
14-Oct-94 Pulp Fiction
23-Sep-94 The Shawshank Redemption
26-Aug-94 Natural Born Killers
3-Aug-94 Clear and Present Danger
29-Jul-94 The Mask
15-Jul-94 True Lies
1-Feb-94 Eat Drink Man Woman
1-Feb-94 Forrest Gump
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15-Dec-93 Schindler's List
29-Oct-93 The Nightmare Before Christmas
15-Oct-93 Farewell My Concubine
13-Aug-93 The Secret Garden
4-Aug-93 The Wedding Banquet
11-Jun-93 Jurassic Park
26-Feb-93 El Mariachi
17-Feb-93 Like Water for Chocolate
12-Feb-93 Groundhog Day
12-Feb-93 Strictly Ballroom
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18-Nov-92 Malcolm X
13-Nov-92 Bram Stoker's Dracula
23-Oct-92 Reservoir Dogs -
19-Jun-92 Batman Returns
27-Mar-92 The Cutting Edge - Gold Medal Edition
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27-Dec-91 Fried Green Tomatoes
11-Dec-91 Hook
27-Aug-91 (HD DVD) Backdraft
24-May-91 Thelma & Louise
1-Feb-91 La Belle Noiseuse
1-Feb-91 Naked Lunch - Criterion Collection
23-Jan-91 Barton Fink
1-Jan-91 (Blu-ray) Terminator 2: Judgement Day
1-Jan-91 Terminator 2 : Judgment Day : Extreme DVD
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21-Nov-90 Dances with Wolves
18-Nov-90 Stephen King's It
2-Nov-90 Jacob's Ladder
17-Aug-90 Wild At Heart
1-Jun-90 Total Recall
2-Mar-90 The Hunt for Red October
23-Feb-90 Cinema Paradiso - The New Version
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22-Sep-89 Black Rain
5-Jan-89 Chocolat
1-Jan-89 James Bond - License To Kill
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15-Jul-88 Die Hard
22-Apr-88 Bagdad Cafe
4-Mar-88 Babette's Feast
1-Jan-88 My Neighbor Totoro
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26-Aug-87 (Blu-ray) Untouchables
31-Jul-87 James Bond - The Living Daylights
17-Jul-87 Robocop
26-Jun-87 (Blu-ray) Full Metal Jacket
26-Jun-87 Full Metal Jacket
12-Jun-87 Predator
3-Jun-87 The Untouchables
24-Mar-87 My Life as a Dog - Criterion Collection
1-Jan-87 The Last Emperor

SirDrexl
11-22-07, 04:41 AM
Here are some things to consider:

1. Of course, the year is not over yet! We haven't even gotten into fall theatrical releases on video, and I feel that more good movies come out later in the year (awards season). So, I'll be buying new titles from 2007, and more of them, well into April and May of next year.

2. Do you only buy new releases? While your 2007 titles are all new, I'd bet that your statistics from previous years include titles you didn't buy until later, because you hadn't discovered them yet, or because they got cheaper as time went on. Of the movies that are released each year, I only buy about 12-15 of them when they're new, but I easily end up doubling that total later as I find movies I wasn't interested in at the time, or have reached a price point I find worthy. There are always those titles you want but don't want to pay a new release premium for.

3. Some titles were delayed or not released at all. Examples would be Zodiac, pre-Hairspray New Line titles, titles Fox would have released during their hiatus, and titles that weren't deemed worthy of an HD release (such as Waitress :().

Also, you have a few duplicate entries in your 2006 list. ;)

BTW, what software is it and how would I get a list like this?

kowhite
11-22-07, 06:35 AM
Based on my own buying patterns as a single data point I would say that 2007 is a terrible year to depend on for accelerating HDM.

Well there's your problem.

If you want to judge whether it's a good year for pushing HDM sales, look at thhe box office, not your own personal collection. You are not an accurate representation of the market as a whole, and therefore your collection is a poor place to look for proper positive or negative indicators of commercial viability amongst 2007 films.

dkwhite
11-22-07, 07:00 AM
I agree with this. 2007 has not been a good year for movie releases. I think more and more people are getting kind of sick of all the rehashed sequels and remakes and want something new and different. I mean, when you've got a 60 year old man doing yet another rocky movie (which was awful by the way) things have gotten pretty sad.

I remember in Airplane they had a poster that said "Rocky 2000" or something on it, indicating how many sequels there have been, and that about sums up 2007.

Lee Stewart
11-22-07, 07:26 AM
?

2007 has already set a record . . 4 movies to go over $300 million - never been done before . . . ever!

2007 will be the year that 3D has been given another rebirth and this time it looks like it may actually get out of the infant stage and go on to being a toddler

I am really in a disagreement mode with these thread titles that state "for the masses" but when you read the OP - it is just one persons reflection on how it has affected him:(

coolhand
11-22-07, 07:58 AM
I completely disagree. Frankly I found your tastes a little confounding. Different strokes for different folks I guess. I am quite thankful that there weren't more movies released this year along the lines of Next, Ghost Rider, Shrek 3, and FF4 2.

kamspy
11-22-07, 01:19 PM
?

2007 has already set a record . . 4 movies to go over $300 million - never been done before . . . ever!

2007 will be the year that 3D has been given another rebirth and this time it looks like it may actually get out of the infant stage and go on to being a toddler

I am really in a disagreement mode with these thread titles that state "for the masses" but when you read the OP - it is just one persons reflection on how it has affected him:(

Correct, 300, Transformers, Spidey 3(I like it, millions other do too), Shooter, PoTC 3(refer to my spidey comment), Bourne 3, etc.

Not too bad for me, but I am into these types of films.

Many here think if a film is made after 1985, it must be garbage (not you Miata), I think we are still getting great films today that will resonate in 20-30 years as others from the past have.

miata
11-22-07, 01:28 PM
Also, you have a few duplicate entries in your 2006 list. ;)

Yes. This is probably a key factor. I have quite a bit of HD/SD double dipping prior to 2007. Maybe my list will get closer as the start buying end of year releases.


BTW, what software is it and how would I get a list like this?
This is software called DVDPedia. I know it is available for the Mac, but not sure about Windows.

As Lee mentioned below, there are a few very large hits this year, and I have purchased many of the biggies.. I just feel like there has not been that much breadth in titles. It would be interesting to compare to box office performance, but I think that for many people there are differences between what you will watch at a theater and what you will pay money for a disc that you want to be able to play over and over. I know that now that I am buying new titles almost exclusively in HD, I disqualify many discs that are not top notch video or audio quality. I was not quite as critical when I purchased DVDs.

I would like to go back to my original question -- restating. Are people generally buying a greater or lesser number of discs than in previous years?

Neo1965
11-22-07, 01:31 PM
Well, there is the fact that hdm cost more, and the bar to actually pull the trigger and buy something in hdm is now higher for most people compared to DVD.

That there is DVD also means that even if a release goes to discount bin at 8.99 two months later, the availability of hdm would mean the hdm owner is less likely to pick one up.

In the past, there are DVD movies and box sets that I don't pick up on release day, that I can still get months later from the bargain bins if the packaging looks nice, or if I might conceivably have time to kill this weekend.

kamspy
11-22-07, 01:33 PM
I bought about 40 DVDs at the MOST before HDM.

Just didn't see the value, I rented.

I am over 100 HDM titles, guess it can be chalked up to my perceived value.

venk
11-22-07, 05:01 PM
It seems like all of the big hit blockbuster movies were critically panned and most didn't like them. Spiderman 3, shrek 3, potc 3, ff4, weren't must buy movies.

Lee Stewart
11-22-07, 07:29 PM
Are people generally buying a greater or lesser number of discs than in previous years?

According to an article I read months ago . . . Sony said that in 2006 - the average household bought 14.7 discs. This was up from 12.5 two years earlier. So I believe people are buying more discs but not really many more than they bought the year before. In 3 years rentals have gone from less than 10% to over 30% (of total DVD revenue). I suspect that for 2007 - the number will be over 36%

http://www.dvdinformation.com/News/press/CES010807.htm

SirDrexl
11-23-07, 01:39 AM
The higher number of discs could be at least partially attributed to the abundance of cheap catalog titles.

Lee Stewart
11-23-07, 08:40 AM
The higher number of discs could be at least partially attributed to the abundance of cheap catalog titles.

Exactly - 14.7 does not mean BB titles - it could meean more $5.00 titles.:o

We are now officially under $3.00. WM is selling DVD's for $2.98:eek:

theforce8686
11-23-07, 10:48 AM
I think it is to early to judge that. 2007 isnt over and youve got plenty of time to buy. Besides, this summer was by far the greatest summer of movies I have ever seen so give it time for all of those to hit home.

Timothy Ramzyk
11-23-07, 12:34 PM
I thought this was a pretty stinko year for new movies, really the last three years have been pretty weak. Whenever I see AT THE MOVIES, FILM COMMENT, or even ENTERTAINMENT WEEKLY "years best" run-throughs, I've felt "man stuff just keeps on slipping". Sure that's all my opinion, but most of the sequels were bad films, and the crop of fall prestige-pictures isn't terribly provocative at all. When I saw MICHAEL CLAYTON (good movie), all the trailers for the dramatic heavy-hitters didn't do a thing for me.

The new Cohen Bros' NO COUNTRY FOR OLD MEN looks good, and I missed the Cronenberg film, EASTERN PROMISES, but that seemed worthwhile and is on my HD list.

Michael Mullis
11-23-07, 12:47 PM
Here is the thing about movies and box office though. To be honest, a movie doing over $300 million won't surprise me at all considering the cost involved with actually going to the movies today. We took my son to see Bee Movie, and we remembered why we don't go to the movies. For the 3 of us, the tickets alone were $25 and change! Adult tickets to our local theater are $9.75 a piece!!! That is insane!

Lee Stewart
11-23-07, 12:54 PM
Here is the thing about movies and box office though. To be honest, a movie doing over $300 million won't surprise me at all considering the cost involved with actually going to the movies today. We took my son to see Bee Movie, and we remembered why we don't go to the movies. For the 3 of us, the tickets alone were $25 and change! Adult tickets to our local theater are $9.75 a piece!!! That is insane!

Anyone here from New York City?

Did I read that a ticket is almost up to $12?:(

PS: I think (not sure) that the price of a movie ticket is controlled by the city of New York. If a theater wants to raise the price they have to petition the city for an increase.

kamspy
11-23-07, 01:10 PM
Anyone here from New York City?

Did I read that a ticket is almost up to $12?:(

PS: I think (not sure) that the price of a movie ticket is controlled by the city the theater is in. If a theater wants to raise the price they have to petition the city for an increase.

$11 in Ohio:eek:

miata
11-23-07, 02:52 PM
Here is the thing about movies and box office though. To be honest, a movie doing over $300 million won't surprise me at all considering the cost involved with actually going to the movies today. We took my son to see Bee Movie, and we remembered why we don't go to the movies. For the 3 of us, the tickets alone were $25 and change! Adult tickets to our local theater are $9.75 a piece!!! That is insane!
Excellent point. I took four kids to see that movie. The movie was better that I expected, but all I could think was that I could get anywhere from 2-4 HDM titles for the $40 it cost us for watching in the theater -- and feeling guilty the whole time for not buying popcorn or drinks:o

Michael Mullis
11-23-07, 03:00 PM
Excellent point. I took four kids to see that movie. The movie was better that I expected, but all I could think was that I could get anywhere from 2-4 HDM titles for the $40 it cost us for watching in the theater -- and feeling guilty the whole time for not buying popcorn or drinks:o

That is exactly right. I looked to my wife and said "We could have waited and bought the HD DVD for $30 and at least get to KEEP THE MOVIE.

Anyway, this is why I take very little stake in box office numbers anymore. We skipped out on seeing a lot of movies this year just to wait for them to come out on either DVD or HD DVD, depending.

It's just not worth going to the theater anymore.

SamwisetheBrave
11-23-07, 04:52 PM
Anyone here from New York City?

Did I read that a ticket is almost up to $12?:(

PS: I think (not sure) that the price of a movie ticket is controlled by the city the theater is in. If a theater wants to raise the price they have to petition the city for an increase.

Whaaaaat!? :confused:

Is that what they do in FL? We sure don't that here in PA.:cool:

Lee Stewart
11-23-07, 05:12 PM
Whaaaaat!? :confused:

Is that what they do in FL? We sure don't that here in PA.:cool:

Oops - my bad - I was referencing NYC and was not specific enough.:o Thank you for pointing that out.:)

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a3willia
11-26-07, 06:35 AM
That is exactly right. I looked to my wife and said "We could have waited and bought the HD DVD for $30 and at least get to KEEP THE MOVIE.

Anyway, this is why I take very little stake in box office numbers anymore. We skipped out on seeing a lot of movies this year just to wait for them to come out on either DVD or HD DVD, depending.

It's just not worth going to the theater anymore.

I'm with you. I wait for the DVD/HD DVD. Here in Chicago, to catch a movie it's $10.50. Then you've got cab fare to and from (potentially parking if you drive). Add in popcorn and drinks, and it's easy to be at $30 to see a movie by yourself! I've only paid $30 for two of my HD DVDs, and that was because I just had to see Transformers and Knocked Up on release day. I couldn't make myself wait a week to snag a new/used copy on ebay for under $20 shipped for those two, LOL.

bboisvert
11-26-07, 09:47 AM
I personally think that 2007 was a pretty weak year for movies, but there were some fun things worthy of purchase.

However, we have radically different tastes, it seems. You bought Ghost Rider.

coolhand
11-26-07, 04:59 PM
I decidedly see fewer movies now than I used to. All things being equal I would rather watch a movie in my basement than at a theater, irregardless of cost. That said, my theater going experiences have been getting a lot more expensive of late. I will pretty much see everything that comes out to the Imax and that runs $12. We just got the first Sundance Theater which is OUTSTANDING. They even have assigned seats. I try to catch movies here as they are Indie movies presented in a class way. Its $8.50 but then they charge a "concierge fee" of $2 during the week and $3 on weekends. Its a great new theater but gracious it is spendy. Otherwise I buy 10 packs to Marcus Cinemas with 5 free popcorn coupons for $55. I figure that makes it $5 to see a movie. The whole industry is trying to develop the theater going event into a special evening. For the most part when they succeed it is where I prefer to watch.

wuzup101
11-26-07, 09:37 PM
There are plenty of good movies from 2007 that will be added to many people's collections as time goes on. As others have stated, there are quite a few great movies which haven't made it to Disc yet, and some that haven't even been released yet in theaters. If you managed to buy things like "Cheetah Girls 2" and "Bring It On 37" from 2006, I'm sure you will find PLENTY of titles to add to your collection from 2007!

As others have stated, the cost of going to the movies is getting pretty nuts. That $16 netflix subscription is less than the cost of going to 2 movies a month... and that assumes that I don't take anyone (which is rare - I don't think I've ever actually gone to the theater by myself in my life). Theater prices are getting pretty insane... and I'd rather just wait for HD-DVD/BR/DVD releases and be able to pause the movie to go take a piss... make/take a phone call... grab a drink... etc...

ataxic_dentist
11-26-07, 10:11 PM
I personally think that 2007 was a pretty weak year for movies, but there were some fun things worthy of purchase.

However, we have radically different tastes, it seems. You bought Ghost Rider.

He bought The Cheetah Girls 2 (that Disney movie?) last year and he didn't buy Transformers or Die Hard this year :eek: Just saying maybe your tastes aren't mainstream and is not representative of most others :) I think there were/will be many solid titles for 2007 to showcase HDM

miata
11-26-07, 10:23 PM
He bought The Cheetah Girls 2 (that Disney movie?) last year and he didn't buy Transformers or Die Hard this year :eek: Just saying maybe your tastes aren't mainstream and is not representative of most others :) I think there were/will be many solid titles for 2007 to showcase HDM
Ever received Christmas presents before? I didn't exactly choose everything on my list. Every year we receive about 8-10 DVDs. maybe my 2007 list will be longer after the holidays.

I did get Transformers but maybe forgot to add it to the list and I added Live Free or Die Hard over the weekend. I'll probably add Die Hard 1 soon -- not interested in the sequels -- except LFDH.

Louisville S
11-26-07, 10:51 PM
miata - what software do you use that calculates those numbers for you, and keeps track of all your titles?

miata
11-26-07, 11:11 PM
miata - what software do you use that calculates those numbers for you, and keeps track of all your titles?
I use DVDpedia for the Mac. As I mentioned above there are plenty of similar programs for Windows as well. Here is a screen shot of the statistics view.

SamwisetheBrave
11-27-07, 09:28 AM
There are plenty of good movies from 2007 that will be added to many people's collections as time goes on. As others have stated, there are quite a few great movies which haven't made it to Disc yet, and some that haven't even been released yet in theaters. If you managed to buy things like "Cheetah Girls 2" and "Bring It On 37" from 2006, I'm sure you will find PLENTY of titles to add to your collection from 2007!

As others have stated, the cost of going to the movies is getting pretty nuts. That $16 netflix subscription is less than the cost of going to 2 movies a month... and that assumes that I don't take anyone (which is rare - I don't think I've ever actually gone to the theater by myself in my life). Theater prices are getting pretty insane... and I'd rather just wait for HD-DVD/BR/DVD releases and be able to pause the movie to go take a piss... make/take a phone call... grab a drink... etc...
Hey, Wuzup, do you go to the Premiere Theaters? The last one we went to was playing the latest Bourne movie. Whole film was completely out of focus (about 30 to 70% of Premiere films this summer were soft) and the staff refused to do anything. Three guys came in, looked at the screen from three feet away, and did nothing. Saw the PSU pres coming in for the next show; wonder what he thought. Wife got a headache.

Now, for what that movie experience cost, we have preordered the third Bourne movie in HD from Amazon!

We now only go to the Carmike Cinemas (digital projection) if the films we want to see are playing at the 6.

I saw the first film ever shown at the Carmike 5 in 1972!

Yer bud,

Sam

BuckNaked
11-27-07, 10:13 AM
Interesting numbers...you should graph that. Notice the nice parabola from 98-06?