View Full Version : What should I do with my Barco Vision 600?


PeriSoft
11-24-07, 12:13 PM
Video only, nearly perfect tubes, has some fungus. Already have an 808s and a 1271q. What should I do? Indeed my dillema is a terrible burden.

Fellenz
11-24-07, 12:57 PM
Make it into a coffee table for the theater. I've been planning to do this with my defunct 801s but I've stolen so many parts it might not work out now :D

PeriSoft
11-24-07, 01:01 PM
Make it into a coffee table for the theater. I've been planning to do this with my defunct 801s but I've stolen so many parts it might not work out now :D

Good idea, but I have to be able to clear the area easily because my wife uses it as a singing / theater rehearsal space. I could use it for a coffee table in my office, though...

DonPatricio
11-24-07, 01:13 PM
I would put it on ebay with a high min. bid!

draganm
11-24-07, 01:35 PM
well I voted for "chandelier" but I think the best thing you could do is give it away to a deserving forum member who is willing to pick it up.

PeriSoft
11-24-07, 06:40 PM
Good point, draganm. So, with that - if there's anybody out there who could use a video only Barco Vision 600, drop me a PM. You'd have to pick up in the Fingerlakes area of NY. I, too, would rather see someone use it for real than just have it waste away as a chandelier or coffee table.

Ericglo
11-24-07, 06:56 PM
I like the Madrigal idea.:)

I agree with Dragan. Give it to someone. This would be a good learning experience for someone wanting to get into FP and home theater.

Mastiff
11-24-07, 07:22 PM
Learning what? That hours and hours of tweaking and hard work still doesn't get you a half decent picture? ;) (Yeah, I know my 808 isn't the best PJ in the world, but still...)

Dave Lister
11-25-07, 01:10 AM
Why participate in a throw-away society?

If it still has some life left in it, give it to someone to learn the basics on, by the time they have learned the basics you may be ready to sell your 808 and they may be wanting to upgrade to an 808.

draganm
11-25-07, 01:16 PM
Learning what? That hours and hours of tweaking and hard work still doesn't get you a half decent picture? ;) (Yeah, I know my 808 isn't the best PJ in the world, but still...) the 808 is capable of a lot more than a "decent picture" . If you can't get a decent picture out of it then don't blame the PJ.

Mastiff
11-25-07, 02:48 PM
Eh...I was talking about the 600! The remark of my 808 was just so that I wouldn't be clobbered by the G90 guys with "hey, your projector isn't exactly the worlds best either"! My picture is very nice, except for that right now the greyscale is off because I have gone from GeForce to ATI and I'm waiting for my tech guy to do the adjustments.

LoriBates
11-25-07, 07:25 PM
I gotta throw my $0.02 in here..... I currently own a 1031q. took a risk, got it off ebay for just under $200.00.... while it was being shipped, I spent hours on this forum soaking up knowledge about this particular projector and crt pjs in general. I knew it wouldn't do what the big bad boys can do, but for a relentless DIYer that doesn't have a lot of money to spend on fancy AV equipment, it was like Christmas for me. I was able to get into a CRT for cheap. What turned me to CRTs? I had started out with a DIY lcd pj I built with an overhead projector and a lcd screen I tore out of one of my old laptops.

WOW Cool, I thought. The ability to watch movies on a big screen was awesome, for a while, until the honeymoon period was over and I started to see the shortcomings... colors weren't what I expected, blacks weren't what I expected, screen door..... you know where I'm going.... I researched, I studied. I got a better monitor with better res and better refresh rates and tore it apart....I tweaked the hec out of it with every piece of software I could throw at it. Still unhappy so I decided it was time to purchase a projector that wasn't homeade.

In this time frame I started to research all the different types of projectors. I got a chance to see a DLP in action.... Hmm.... better resolution than my experiment but the damned rainbows flitting all over the screen darned near made me have to run to the bathroom and puke ( or was it the drinks I had that night.....)

More research.. new I wanted better than LCD could offer, knew for darned sure I didn't want a DLP. That search led me here..... and though I couldn't afford anything expensive, I still wanted to be able to give my family a taste of what is usually reserved for those with lots of cash to blow.... and even then, very few have the interest in such an endeavor, at least until digitals came down in price and could be easily had by the masses who just wanted something to throw a big picture.

I've been told, and at least once today, to trash that little sony since I've got a Marquee on the way, but I'm not about to do it. That little Sony I got for cheap gave me a taste of what a quality image could look like, even if it's an entry level and even though I had to spend hours in a dark basement holding a flashlight and a plastic screwdriver over my head adjusting pots to converge it.... it still had the color corrected lenses, the tubes were in excellent shape and it has been a rock solid reliable source of enjoyment for us for over 3 years now. It introduced me to the CRT world and left me lusting after an upgrade, which I have finally been able to accomplish. Again, I don't have tons of money to spend on equipment and I got a reasonable price on the Marquee I bought from Curt because the case has some dings. I don't care about that, I trust him when he tells me the condition of the machine, the tubes and the life left in them and that's all that matters to me...... the girl who is still trying to give the family the finer things in life - champagne tastes on a beer budget....

Don't ever underestimate the value of a good working CRT.... it's good enough to get someone's feet wet, show them the basics, show them what's possible.... let them learn about convergence, setup, sources, ways to feed them their sources....etc.. when they decide it's time to upgrade, they will find a way because by then, they will have learned to love the CRT pj in general. Back then I would have been utterly thrilled with an offer such as Perisoft just made, and I'm sure someone of his calibre and knowledge would explain and give the taker a heads up as to what they can and cannot expect from it. I'd have been more than happy with that....

PeriSoft
11-25-07, 11:46 PM
I appreciate the compliment, but don't overestimate my knowledge... it would be easy to do! I'm almost as new at this as anybody, and just starting to get to the steep part of the curve... But I know enough to know these are great machines, and even a Vision 600 is an amazing piece of kit when you consider what they were trying to accomplish at the time.

And there's nothing like analog convergence to give you a kick to realize how the digital stuff works! I spent a while working on my 808s and doing several convergence jobs, each drastically better than the last, and then snagged the BV600 and the 1271q, and I learned a LOT setting up both of them - and in particular the BV600.

I'm not ready to offer up the 1271q for free yet, though... it's actually a really nice PJ; I just wish I could think of a good way to use it... My only thought now is to run it alongside the Barco in my HT to do 3:4 material, which would leave the tubes fine for doing 16:9 in the future if I wanted to sell it on or give it away, while taking load off the 808, but I'm not sure how my wife would feel about having two of the things hanging from the ceiling down there!

flyingvee
11-26-07, 10:00 PM
I voted for Winamp - my Data 600 is great for that - throws a great big picture too. Have had it up on a wall, roughly 7' tall and lots of feet wide - the kiddies love it. With Milkdrop, the visualizations even seem to correlate with the music. What I wouldn't have done for a toy like that back in the day.

Failing that, give it to someone. I ended up giving my Data 600 to my boy - for the express reason of letting him get his feet wet on that before I give him a better one.

Vic C
11-29-07, 05:28 PM
Yea I have a senario liek LoriBates too.

Its been 10 years since Ive owned a boat and bought a brand ne 18 foot open bow. After putting about 15 hours on it relised I really wanted a much bigger boat. So I bought a 27 foot cabin cruser a month ago.

The lillte boat and projector were great to get us back or started out then you relise you want / need more!!!! :)

I however, am selling off my brand new 18 footer because Id rather not keep paying for something thats going to sit in the garage and neve get used.

PS Im happy with my DWIN HD700... SONY 1031q got me into CRT too...The DWIN will be my LAST CRT though.

Mastiff
11-29-07, 06:14 PM
I always thought the camel was the ship of the desert... ;) Or are you using it on Lake Pleasant?

PeriSoft
12-05-07, 07:19 PM
Well, the problem solved itself with the coming of cold weather. What's a cat to do after tromping around in waist-high (for a cat) snow for an hour? Use the cat-warmer, of course!

http://www.perisoft.org/barcocatwarmer.jpg

Maxxarcade
12-05-07, 10:39 PM
I started with a 1031Q myself, and I loved it. Perfect grayscale, and good clarity at 480P. Though I remember the really sore neck, after doing the flashlight in the dark with a small screwdriver thing. After I got my Barco 800 I didn't dare ceiling mount it :)

I'm still using my old Barco G800 to this day, and the only thing I could ask for is a bit sharper focus. The prices for decent EM focus projectors are still out of my budget though.


I gotta throw my $0.02 in here..... I currently own a 1031q. took a risk, got it off ebay for just under $200.00.... while it was being shipped, I spent hours on this forum soaking up knowledge about this particular projector and crt pjs in general. I knew it wouldn't do what the big bad boys can do, but for a relentless DIYer that doesn't have a lot of money to spend on fancy AV equipment, it was like Christmas for me. I was able to get into a CRT for cheap. What turned me to CRTs? I had started out with a DIY lcd pj I built with an overhead projector and a lcd screen I tore out of one of my old laptops.

WOW Cool, I thought. The ability to watch movies on a big screen was awesome, for a while, until the honeymoon period was over and I started to see the shortcomings... colors weren't what I expected, blacks weren't what I expected, screen door..... you know where I'm going.... I researched, I studied. I got a better monitor with better res and better refresh rates and tore it apart....I tweaked the hec out of it with every piece of software I could throw at it. Still unhappy so I decided it was time to purchase a projector that wasn't homeade.

In this time frame I started to research all the different types of projectors. I got a chance to see a DLP in action.... Hmm.... better resolution than my experiment but the damned rainbows flitting all over the screen darned near made me have to run to the bathroom and puke ( or was it the drinks I had that night.....)

More research.. new I wanted better than LCD could offer, knew for darned sure I didn't want a DLP. That search led me here..... and though I couldn't afford anything expensive, I still wanted to be able to give my family a taste of what is usually reserved for those with lots of cash to blow.... and even then, very few have the interest in such an endeavor, at least until digitals came down in price and could be easily had by the masses who just wanted something to throw a big picture.

I've been told, and at least once today, to trash that little sony since I've got a Marquee on the way, but I'm not about to do it. That little Sony I got for cheap gave me a taste of what a quality image could look like, even if it's an entry level and even though I had to spend hours in a dark basement holding a flashlight and a plastic screwdriver over my head adjusting pots to converge it.... it still had the color corrected lenses, the tubes were in excellent shape and it has been a rock solid reliable source of enjoyment for us for over 3 years now. It introduced me to the CRT world and left me lusting after an upgrade, which I have finally been able to accomplish. Again, I don't have tons of money to spend on equipment and I got a reasonable price on the Marquee I bought from Curt because the case has some dings. I don't care about that, I trust him when he tells me the condition of the machine, the tubes and the life left in them and that's all that matters to me...... the girl who is still trying to give the family the finer things in life - champagne tastes on a beer budget....

Don't ever underestimate the value of a good working CRT.... it's good enough to get someone's feet wet, show them the basics, show them what's possible.... let them learn about convergence, setup, sources, ways to feed them their sources....etc.. when they decide it's time to upgrade, they will find a way because by then, they will have learned to love the CRT pj in general. Back then I would have been utterly thrilled with an offer such as Perisoft just made, and I'm sure someone of his calibre and knowledge would explain and give the taker a heads up as to what they can and cannot expect from it. I'd have been more than happy with that....

adsmith82
05-18-08, 03:02 AM
I know this is an old thread, but I have recently come across the idea that I might be able to find an old CRT projector that will do a good job for movies and video games. 1920x1080 capabilities would be nice (obviously), but not necessary if I can find a really cheap projector. Anyway, I came across a Barco 600 on ebay and would like to know what its capabilities are as far as brightness and resolution. Also, if anyone has a suggestion on how I can find any working projector for really cheap that is close to me (freight is expensive), I'm listening. Thanks.

Maxxarcade
05-18-08, 04:06 AM
If it is a vision 600, it is standard video only. If it is a Data 600, it will do 1024x768 max. They are both pretty old and probably not too bright by today's standards.

The only CRT projectors that will do 1920x1080 (1080p) well are the high end 8 and 9 inch models, and they don't usually go for cheap when in good condition.

Now if you are talking interlaced 1920x1080 (1080i), you should be able to do that with a Data 600.

www.Curtpalme.com has specs for almost all CRT projectors.