I was just wondering if there is an ongoing list of Blu-rays that are 1080i?

The Masters of Horror BDs are 1080i.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=760714

Not sure why you want 1080i but I recently made a note of these titles on my list. In addition to those I believe Galapagos is also 1080i. There are also some extra features that are 1080i on certain discs.

Maybe a list of discs to avoid?

There isn't a specific list of titles in that link though.

Maybe a list of discs to avoid?

There isn't a specific list of titles in that link though.

I used to think that, but then I realized, everything I watch (HD programs) are in 1080i and some (like Discovery HD) looks absolutely stunning.

1080p or not, I think it won't matter in the end...as long as you have a decent display (Sony Bravia, Pioneeer plasma, etc.).

For a title to be 1080i it would have to be shot on video* and not film. So no "movie" will be in 1080i and only "TV" shows** will be 1080i.

*There is a 1080p 24Hz video mode that is rarely used (I believe that Dave Matthews is shot on 24Hz video).
**Prime time, sitcoms and dramas are often shot on film and telecined for TV.

Bikini Destination...triple fantasy,is 1080i

For a title to be 1080i it would have to be shot on video* and not film. So no "movie" will be in 1080i and only "TV" shows** will be 1080i.

*There is a 1080p 24Hz video mode that is rarely used (I believe that Dave Matthews is shot on 24Hz video).
**Prime time, sitcoms and dramas are often shot on film and telecined for TV.
Not always true.

Concerts like Nine Inch Nails: Beside You In Time were shot via HD cameras and are 1080i.

Nature's Journey was a documentary shot on HD video cameras as well, and is 1080i.

Not always true.

Concerts like Nine Inch Nails: Beside You In Time were shot via HD cameras and are 1080i.

Nature's Journey was a documentary shot on HD video cameras as well, and is 1080i.

HD cameras are video.:D:D ...or are you misreading or not understanding my post?:confused:

Actually Nine Inch Nails is NOT 1080i. Its encoded in exactly the same way as every single HD DVD. Progressive with Interlace flags. The only difference is its 30fps instead of 24. It was shot on native 1080p30 cameras.

BD doesn't support 1080p 30Hz so it has to be encoded at 1080i 60Hz. This is one (and about the only) area that HD DVD (1080p 30Hz support) has a technical advantage over BD.

No as I said its encoded just like any HD DVD. Progressive with flags for 1080i60. If you are going to say that Blu-ray doesn't support 1080p30 then you must also say that HD DVD doesn't support 1080p24.

Why would I say that since HD DVD DOES support 1080p24.:confused: I believe all film based HD DVD's (at least the ones I own) are encoded at 1080p24.

BD doesn't support 1080p 30Hz so it would have to be be encoded at 1080i 60Hz on BD.

Listen to what I'm saying. HD DVD encodes everything with interlace flags. Its a progressive stream with pulldown flags so the player can output interlace. If the player ignores the flags then it is 100% 1080p. This is exactly the same way that NiN BD is encoded. It is not interlaced.

The NiN BD is encoded in exactly the same way as any movie HD DVD. The only difference is the frame rate. Thats why I'm saying that if you say that it is interlaced then you are automatically saying that all movie HD DVDs are interlaced. And they certainly are not.

Blu-ray movie discs do not use any flags at all. They are pure progressive streams.

So BD does 1080p 30Hz and that means this table (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_high_definition_optical_disc_formats#Technical _details) is wrong and this entire thread (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=752275&highlight=30hz) is incorrect?:eek:

benes is right, and this was clarified long ago when BYIT first came out. It is encoded as 1080p30 with 1080i60 flags. Ultimately, you will get the same thing out of your display anyways, so this is no technical advantage whatsoever for HD-DVD.

HD cameras are video.:D:D ...or are you misreading or not understanding my post?:confused:

I think you are not understanding his post. What he is trying to say is that "no movie" and "only TV shows" is incorrect as far as being shot on video is concerned. There are movies that are indeed shot on HD Video, Crank is one. There are other things like BYIT and Nature's Journey like he mentioned that are also shot on HD Video. Therefore "no movie" and "only TV shows" is incorrect, although those titles mentioned were mostly shot progressive (BYIT, Crank).

benes is right, and this was clarified long ago when BYIT first came out. It is encoded as 1080p30 with 1080i60 flags. Ultimately, you will get the same thing out of your display anyways, so this is no technical advantage whatsoever for HD-DVD.

Looks like I was wrong stand corrected that BD supports 1080p 30Hz. Was just going by what I had read. For the OP it doesn't mean much especially since there is only one (?) BD shot and produced in 1080p 30Hz at this time.



I think you are not understanding his post. What he is trying to say is that "no movie" and "only TV shows" is incorrect as far as being shot on video is concerned. There are movies that are indeed shot on HD Video, Crank is one. There are other things like BYIT and Nature's Journey like he mentioned that are also shot on HD Video. Therefore "no movie" and "only TV shows" is incorrect, although those titles mentioned were mostly shot progressive (BYIT, Crank).

Still not sure what you are reading because I didn't say "no movie" and "only TV shows". See my notes (*) in the post below:

* for 24 Hz "movies" (shot on video) like Dave Matthews, Crank and SW2 & 3. For the OP as far as BD or HD DVD goes it will appear as "film mode" (see quotation marks as in not literally film) or 1080p 24 Hz.

** for "TV" shows (shot on film).

For a title to be 1080i it would have to be shot on video* and not film. So no "movie" will be in 1080i and only "TV" shows** will be 1080i.

*There is a 1080p 24Hz video mode that is rarely used (I believe that Dave Matthews is shot on 24Hz video).
**Prime time, sitcoms and dramas are often shot on film and telecined for TV.

Still not sure what you are reading because I didn't say "no movie" and "only TV shows". See my notes on the post:

For a title to be 1080i it would have to be shot on video* and not film. So no "movie" will be in 1080i and only "TV" shows** will be 1080i.

See bolded text. Technically, movies could be 1080i, because some are shot using HD Video (although most do shoot progressive like I said earlier). Other titles, neither movie nor TV show like BYIT and Nature's Journey etc. are also shot on HD Video and could technically be 1080i. Thats what me as well as Icemage are trying to get at.

Also, your first note (*) does not really have any effect towards something being progressive or not. Yes, HD cameras do have a 1080p24 mode (not 1080p 24Hz, 24Hz is a display refresh rate), but that is there to give the source more of a film look by shooting at 24 frames per second instead of 30 or 60. This doesn't really have anything to do with whether something is interlaced or not, other than the fact that it is one mode of several to shoot 1080p video.

See bolded text. Technically, movies could be 1080i, because some are shot using HD Video (although most do shoot progressive like I said earlier). Other titles, neither movie nor TV show like BYIT and Nature's Journey etc. are also shot on HD Video and could technically be 1080i. Thats what me as well as Icemage are trying to get at.

If you want to get technical any film (as in actually analog film) can be encoded at 1080i 60Hz after it is telecine and not just video based 1080p 24Hz "films" (quotation marks mean not literally). Please name just one film based or native 1080p 24Hz that is authored on BD or HD DVD at 1080i 60Hz. Also I have movie and TV in quotation makes to mean not literally (because I'm generalizing and can't possibly cover ever single exception) had to be ON TV or IN a theater to cover things like Nature's Journey (it wasn't shown on TV?) or NIN.

If you want to get technical any film (as in actually analog film) can be encoded at 1080i 60Hz after it is telecine and not just video based 1080p 24Hz "films" (quotation marks mean not literally). Please name just one film based or native 1080p 24Hz that is authored on BD or HD DVD at 1080i 60Hz. Also I have movie and TV in quotation makes to mean not literally (because I'm generalizing and can't possibly cover ever single exception) had to be ON TV or IN a theater to cover things like Nature's Journey (it wasn't shown on TV?) or NIN.

Thats something completely different. Being encoded at 1080i and being shot at 1080i are different things. You made a statement that only things shot on video can be 1080i therefore no movies and only TV shows can be 1080i. Icemage and I took that for face value and said that that was incorrect. Don't know what you can't understand about that. And, again, 24Hz and 60Hz, 30Hz, for that matter are display refresh rates. BD's are not encoded in Hz.