Got my hands on the UK set today.

http://www.image-load.eu/out.php/t10743_cover.jpg (http://www.image-load.eu/out.php/i10743_cover.jpg)

Has the slipcover like 1 + 2 as you can see. Two nitpicks about the back description though. First, the AR is listed as 1.85 (don't worry, it's 2.40). Second, it's marked down as only Region B, but the disc works fine on my Japanese PS3 (which is A).

Video is good old AVC. Audio is "only" 5.1 16bit PCM as opposed to the 7.1 24bit announced for the US edition. I thought about it for a second, and looking at the main m2ts (which is about 40GB), they might have been hard pressed for space to do it on top of foreign language audio + subs... but I didn't do the actual math (movie is 2hrs 50 mins long) so I'll leave that to the clever clogs. Could have used TrueHD, but eh, whatever, seems Disney have a habit of 16 bit releases in Euro land even if the US is 24bit. On to the actual disc!

First thing you're greeted with is an epic teaser of titles to come in the (probably distant...) future. Lots of animation titles snipped together around some a few catalogue live action ones.

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No idea why they say they're "available" on BD since we won't see the majority of them for years probably. (Is this the first disc they've put this on, by the way? I think someone mentioned it in another thread on a completely different movie, but might be thinking of some other preview.)

(10 image limit per post, so continuing on...)

The menu is our good friend the skull dude, as per the other discs;

http://www.image-load.eu/out.php/t10763_potc1.jpg (http://www.image-load.eu/out.php/i10763_potc1.jpg)

And onto the movie!

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No surprises really, it looks great. Nice sharpness + detail, fine amount of grain intact... really you'll know what to expect if you've seen the second movie's disc.

The problem is the style of the movie gets in the way of the PQ a bit, IMO. The second movie, there were on those lush islands a lot, lots of vibrant colours, looked excellent. In this movie, the settings aren't as consistent. Most of the movie is set in darker or dimly lit places, not quite as much during the daytime... when it is, it either very quickly becomes nighttime/different setting, or in the case of Jack's adventures in the Locker, the contrast is intentionally pumped up which makes things unnatural. The whole movie really is like that, tends towards subdued or darker settings. That's not to say it's bad, like I say it's equal to the second disc in terms of detail, I just think those island settings in the second movie make it more visually pleasing. That's completely my opinion though, so when you all get the disc and post how you think I'm barking mad, no worries.

As for AQ... that's not really my department. Seemed good, haven't sat down through a full battle/action sequence though to compare it to anything. I assume if you've heard the second disc, you'll know what to expect (or maybe not, since the US version is supposedly 7.1 after all...).

Yeah, Peter pan, Lion king,...This preview si also available in Ratatouille and Cars (I think).
Those at world's end look as good or better than Dead man chest?

Edit: You just answered on your second post. Thanks

Can you post a pic from the backcover? Thanks in advance.

Can you post a pic from the backcover? Thanks in advance.

Here you go;

http://www.image-load.eu/out.php/t10783_back.jpg (http://www.image-load.eu/out.php/i10783_back.jpg)

Thanks man! Oh I think it is the first time I see DTS for spanish.

Did anyone really like this film? I have the first 2 but Iam really not a fan of the third one it was all over the place, hi-def or not what would make you pick this title up?

Did anyone really like this film? I have the first 2 but Iam really not a fan of the third one it was all over the place, hi-def or not what would make you pick this title up?

Do we really want to turn this into a debate thread on the merits of the film or a discussion of the transfer/presentation? OP, thanks for the feedback on this title and the screenshots. I know it takes effort and time to put a thread like this together...thanks for taking the time to share it with us (esp. since it's the first early review).

Did anyone really like this film? I have the first 2 but Iam really not a fan of the third one it was all over the place, hi-def or not what would make you pick this title up?

i loved it every bit as much as the first two.

If I import from Amazon UK will this disc also play on US model BD players?

Did anyone really like this film? I have the first 2 but Iam really not a fan of the third one it was all over the place, hi-def or not what would make you pick this title up?

First of all great post!

Second I have found to have liked the 3rd movie more after more watchings. The same held true for me for the 2nd.

Yeah the movies are great fun! All three of them.

Thanks for the screen grabs, especially the skull head and the starry night shot. Either one will make fine XMB backgrounds for my PS3.

If I import from Amazon UK will this disc also play on US model BD players?

Yes !

It's a must buy for me regardless of the PQ and AQ quality of the BD since I have the other two and cannot live without this one. I'll be at a local Target store as soon as it opens its doors on release day. Thanks for taking the time and giving as your opinion!!

I saw it in the theater and enjoyed the content alot!!!

If I import from Amazon UK will this disc also play on US model BD players?

wait a week and you can have an US copy that is cheaper and will work for sure, unless you prefer the thicker case.

wait a week and you can have an US copy that is cheaper and will work for sure, unless you prefer the thicker case.

Agreed...might as well wait now.

Here you go;

http://www.image-load.eu/out.php/t10783_back.jpg (http://www.image-load.eu/out.php/i10783_back.jpg)

is this cropped????? It lists the video as 1.85:1. the video for the theatrical release was 2.35:1

Like I said in first post, it's a mistake. It's 2.40 on disc.

is this cropped????? It lists the video as 1.85:1. the video for the theatrical release was 2.35:1

The threadstarter says in his first post not to be alarmed by that. The film is in its correct aspect ratio and the box has a misprint.

The threadstarter says in his first post not to be alarmed by that. The film is in its correct aspect ratio and the box has a misprint.

my bad, I kinda skimmed over that part.

I want this on release. Wish somevody could verify if it has any frame'n issues or not as compared to the SD-DVD?

If I import from Amazon UK will this disc also play on US model BD players?


Why would you? US disc is coming out next week with better audio and will be a lot cheaper.

Amazon is showing pre-order at $23.95.

http://www.amazon.com/Pirates-Caribbean-Worlds-End-Blu-ray/dp/B000U7UWVA******pd_bbs_sr_3?ie=UTF8&s=dvd&qid=1196191318&sr=1-3

For the love of God, let the US version be region free. I need 7.1 PCM NOW.

Wow, some of the grabs are photo quality.

Here you go;

http://www.image-load.eu/out.php/t10783_back.jpg (http://www.image-load.eu/out.php/i10783_back.jpg)
I know I don't have perfect eye sight but, I don't see any pictures in any of your post. I don't even see red "X"s. Am I missing something or where the pics removed?

I doubt we'll see region free... Disney + non-catalog release = Guaranteed Region Coding.

Are you guys sure it's in 7.1, everything I've seen points to 5.1 PCM?

Kudos to House for his patience.

Are you guys sure it's in 7.1, everything I've seen points to 5.1 PCM?

I would like to know as well. 7.1 would be sweet.

I think the 7.1 in the US press release was a booboo. Similar to 'up to 7.1 channels' in the commercial a few months back for Cars. I'm sure we'll likely just see 5.1 24 bit here in NA.

Are you guys sure it's in 7.1, everything I've seen points to 5.1 PCM?

The tech specs on Disney's site (seen here (http://disney.go.com/disneyvideos/bluray/)) shows a 5.1 48 kHz/24-bit PCM track. My experience is that the site has always been accurate about audio tech specs (not so accurate with video).

I'm sure the mix will make PLIIx matrixing sound great in a 7.1 setup. This was the case with the first two movies.

I know I don't have perfect eye sight but, I don't see any pictures in any of your post. I don't even see red "X"s. Am I missing something or where the pics removed?

Are you surfing at work? If you are there's a good chance that traffic from the place where he's hosting the images is filtered by your net admin.

Just watched my copy. It has the same PQ as DMC. Still suffers from obvious macroblocking especially the "Maelstorm Battle for the Seas ". Distracting? Not so much since everything is just moving fast and its raining. But its there. Dark scenes again gets too grainy resulting in loss of detail. A solid Tier 1. A very good PQ.

And oh yeah AQ is 10/10. Nuff said.

Xylon; could you please confirm whether it is 5.1 or 7.1 PCM, and the bitrate?

Cheers!
B

I'm betting money on a 5.1 track. It really is about time we had some good 7.1 tracks, but it would make no sense from a consistency standpoint to release the first two in 5.1 and then the last in 7.1.

How come no pictures of Keith Richards from this, he was supposed to be hillarious in this.

I'll just wait for the US version to drop then buy, I just recently imported all the Potter HI Def Movies from UK.

back cover of us version states it as region a only.

I have it and it is 5.1 PCM, 48 Khz and 24 bit. I hope to have a formal review up tonight but I am still wiped out from a trip to Europe. Those 7 hour time differences are a pain.

kiera knightly pics please lol..i cannot wait until next week for this.

Got Pirates 3 today from Disney. I am working on my review now. This one is a keeper! Looks and sounds VERY VERY VERY Good :)

http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/5255/pirates31ok7.jpg

http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/8540/pirates32ya2.jpg

~Josh

Did not expect anything else based upon the track record.

Disney is really on the stick with there stuff. Nice to see.

I am glad they dropped the ugly "swoosh" on the cover art.

I am glad they dropped the ugly "swoosh" on the cover art.

Amen to that!!!

I'm sure it is just a typo, but does it say 1080i, instead of 1080p, on the back of the box or am I misreading it?

I'm sure it is just a typo, but does it say 1080i, instead of 1080p, on the back of the box or am I misreading it?

All of the supplemental features are in 1080i. It looks like the "disc 2" is labeled 1080i, although I can't see it very clearly.

Brandon

The disc is REGION CODED.

Xylon; could you please confirm whether it is 5.1 or 7.1 PCM, and the bitrate?

Cheers!
B

Sorry buddy its UK import :o

The disc is REGION CODED.

Are you sure ?

According to these threads the norwegian, swedish, german and UK-Version are codefree, eventhough it is stated otherwise on the backprint :

http://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=24210

http://forum.cinefacts.de/showthread.php?t=183253


http://bluray.liesinc.net/ also states the UK and german versions as codefree.

Or are you refering to the US-version ?

It would be a little hard to believe that the US version should be region-coded, eventhough apparently every other version is not :)

Dude, please look at the back cover art of the U.S version.

Dude, please look at the back cover art of the U.S version.

So ?

my german version also states a big "B" and still is regionfree, as does the US Version of Apocalypto state a big "A" and still i can play it on my Region B Player
;) .

Dude, please look at the back cover art of the U.S version.


The back cover of the US Version lists region "A" only.

~Josh

Stop it!! This is my most anticipated eagerly awaited title of the year.

Thanks for all the great info but you folks are killing me! Tuesday morning cannot come fast enough as I didn't preorder!! :)

Just watched my copy. It has the same PQ as DMC. Still suffers from obvious macroblocking especially the "Maelstorm Battle for the Seas ". Distracting? Not so much since everything is just moving fast and its raining. But its there. Dark scenes again gets too grainy resulting in loss of detail. A solid Tier 1. A very good PQ.

And oh yeah AQ is 10/10. Nuff said.

Can you take some still frames of the macroblocking. Thanks...

So ?

my german version also states a big "B" and still is regionfree, as does the US Version of Apocalypto state a big "A" and still i can play it on my Region B Player
;) .

exactly! There are many US releases wich shows region "A" on their backcover, but still work on region B player!

**** really didn't expect a region lock:(

**** really didn't expect a region lock:(

Well we don't really know if the US version is region locked yet. As stated above the UK version show "B" only, but it works on A players. But I'll just wait for confirmation before I order.

the movie really blew, but those screencaps look pretty damn good. i wish blu-ray would come down to $200 soon so i can buy a player. but i'm pretty happy with hd dvd right now.

A must buy for me regardless of that review for PQ. I'm an audioholic, that is my priority anyway! :)

Peter Bracke is at it again.

http://bluray.highdefdigest.com/1018/piratesofthecaribbeanatworldsend.html

4 PQ?!? Well at least it doesn't seem like he docked it based on his personal preference as he has with other films.

I'm curious to take a look at this title when it shows up in my mailbox next week.

It seems harsh to dock a full point for the seemingly small things he cited, as I've seen him give other films with similar problems a 4.5. I hope he's just being slightly overly critical.

Either way for any of us audio demo junkies it is a must have:)

^^^^^

Adjoining neighbors in my apartment complex will get an earful!! :)

Thanks for the post, I got the other 2 free with my BD10A so I'll complete the set.

I sure hope Disney gets those other titles out, I sure would love to see Lion King, Aladdin, Little Mermaid, Monsters Inc. and Toy Story on BD.

Can you take some still frames of the macroblocking. Thanks...

Of course eventually. Lets wait for everyone to get their copy. But as far as macroblocking goes this a very small issue for most anyways :)

Peter Bracke is at it again.

http://bluray.highdefdigest.com/1018/piratesofthecaribbeanatworldsend.html

4 PQ?!?

He is spot on. He should have given the same ratings wiht DMC which some people gave a TIER 0 rating :rolleyes:

I gave it a 4 3/5 out of 5. It is no tier 0 release but is very good. The audio is simply outstanding though. The audio is tier 0.

Hmm Noise in flesh tones? Man if that is truly the case? I'm not going to buy it on BD.
I am taking a stand against anything less than perfect for HDM's. Be it BD or those other guys.

No offense, but is he sure that he isn't just seeing film grain?

Were these images captured from the Print Screen function of a Blu Ray equipped PC?

If not, how?

He is spot on. He should have given the same ratings wiht DMC which some people gave a TIER 0 rating :rolleyes:

Agreed.

Too many people confuse film grain and noise -- an encoding issue.

lol, Peter Bracke gave Traffic on HD DVD four stars

Great audio, great video.

Shame the movie is such a POS. Three hours of torture, and this is coming from a fan who LOVED the first film, and liked the second.

I can't wait to own this movie despite it being the weakest of the three. The movie just threw out most of what made DMC so good and put in plot lines that went no where. Not to mention the Kraken got gyped. But hey, at least the final battle is well worth it.

lol, Peter Bracke gave Traffic on HD DVD four stars

And The Punisher on BD 4 1/2 stars (http://bluray.highdefdigest.com/22/punisher.html):eek::rolleyes::confused:

The Punisher is an easy 2-2 1/2 star for PQ, not 4 1/2!:(

Brackes' reviews are all over the place.

And The Punisher on BD 4 1/2 stars (http://bluray.highdefdigest.com/22/punisher.html):eek::rolleyes::confused:

The Punisher is an easy 2-2 1/2 star for PQ, not 4 1/2!:(

Brackes' reviews are all over the place.

4.5 for Punisher? lmfoa, that is probably the worst looking rental I've had in my PS3. Entertaining movie, especially Travolta's horrible acting job :D

And Yet we all loooooooooove him by giving 5/5 on Rat and DMC.

*kiss*kiss*tongue*kiss*

And hate his blind and bias review of everything else not 5/5.

*smack*pow*kick in the groin*off with his head*

Peter!!! We are better reviewer than you! We don't care about your film books especially Crystal Lake Memories or attending USC film school (GO UCLA!) or founding a little website DVDFILE. Our opinion is absolute! We are NEVER wrong! We see film and movies better than you! By giving 4/5 in Traffic the only way we will be satisfied is to rate all Blu-ray 5/5! oh wait 11/10! Yes!!!

And Yet we all loooooooooove him by giving 5/5 on Rat and DMC.

*kiss*kiss*tongue*kiss*

And hate his blind and bias review of everything else not 5/5.

*smack*pow*kick in the groin*off with his head*

Peter!!! We are better reviewer than you! We don't care about your film books especially Crystal Lake Memories or attending USC film school (GO UCLA!) or founding a little website DVDFILE. Our opinion is absolute! We are NEVER wrong! We see film and movies better than you! By giving 4/5 in Traffic the only way we will be satisfied is to rate all Blu-ray 5/5! oh wait 11/10! Yes!!!

But you've already scheduled beheadings for those who gave DMC a TIER O rating, right? :eek: We've got to pace things out the Californian way ;)

He is spot on. He should have given the same ratings wiht DMC which some people gave a TIER 0 rating :rolleyes:

Do you agree POTC:Dead Man's Chest is TIER 0? - LOL! whats up with the smiley.

Anyone? Step right up! Right here! Right now!


TIER 0 = Completely flawless picture. No artifacts whatsoever, no matter how small :)

By your definition of Tier O there isn't a title I've viewed that meets those requirements on either format.

Do you agree with Traffic getting 4 stars? How about 4.5 for The Punisher? Personally I've watched both in the theater and at home and highly disagree.

Personally I just found it amusing that you'd roll your eyes at somebody for having an opinion on something like DMC being Tier 0 and get very protective of Peter a few posts later when others don't agree with his reviews on The Punisher and Traffic. As well as your comment on opinions. Nothing wrong with that of course, just entertaining to me :)

Curious, is he a good friend of yours?

The back cover of the US Version lists region "A" only.

~Josh

My EU copy lists Region "B" only, yet it plays on my Region "A" PS3. The film is Region Free, I can't Imagine why Disney would code the US version while you guys got it after Europe

Do you agree POTC:Dead Man's Chest is TIER 0? - LOL! whats up with the smiley.

Anyone? Step right up! Right here! Right now!


TIER 0 = Completely flawless picture. No artifacts whatsoever, no matter how small :)

IF DMC is Tier 0, AWE certainly is too! No doubt!

Personally I didn't notice any macroblocking at all. If you noticed it, how come you didn't on Blood Diamond or any other WB title? Grain however is noticable in darker scenes, but overall it's a flawless picture!

:confused:By your definition of Tier O there isn't a title I've viewed that meets those requirements on either format.

Do you agree with Traffic getting 4 stars? How about 4.5 for The Punisher? Personally I've watched both in the theater and at home and highly disagree.

Personally I just found it amusing that you'd roll your eyes at somebody for having an opinion on something like DMC being Tier 0 and get very protective of Peter a few posts later when others don't agree with his reviews on The Punisher and Traffic. As well as your comment on opinions. Nothing wrong with that of course, just entertaining to me :)

Curious, is he a good friend of yours?

Who me? Traffic?! Are you even paying attention to my threads?! :eek: What the heck do I have to do get some respect around here!

I almost got banned from AVS when I ask too many questions about Traffic in the Insider forum! Thats right. uh-oh. My posts deleted and replies deleted. So there.

By your definition of Tier O there isn't a title I've viewed that meets those requirements on either format.



Good! Let the guy in charge of the Tier thread to let him know. WTH! Space Odyssey 2001 TIER 0!? I never check the Tier threads anymore but damn!


Not one of you guys even tried to correct him? Very disappointing :(

Whoa! Who is this guy posting Traffic screenshots April-02-2007 ?

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=10234518#post10234518

I want this on release. Wish somevody could verify if it has any frame'n issues or not as compared to the SD-DVD?

No framing issues :) Its all good.

IMO:

Peter Bracke's reviews are a joke.

The tier threads are a joke.

The Traffic HD-DVD is a joke.

The only tier 0 titles are the uncompressed masters of certain cgi movies. You can't buy them.

No surprises really, it looks great. Nice sharpness + detail, fine amount of grain intact... really you'll know what to expect if you've seen the second movie's disc.

The problem is the style of the movie gets in the way of the PQ a bit, IMO. The second movie, there were on those lush islands a lot, lots of vibrant colours, looked excellent. In this movie, the settings aren't as consistent. Most of the movie is set in darker or dimly lit places, not quite as much during the daytime... when it is, it either very quickly becomes nighttime/different setting, or in the case of Jack's adventures in the Locker, the contrast is intentionally pumped up which makes things unnatural. The whole movie really is like that, tends towards subdued or darker settings. That's not to say it's bad, like I say it's equal to the second disc in terms of detail, I just think those island settings in the second movie make it more visually pleasing. That's completely my opinion though, so when you all get the disc and post how you think I'm barking mad, no worries.

As for AQ... that's not really my department. Seemed good, haven't sat down through a full battle/action sequence though to compare it to anything. I assume if you've heard the second disc, you'll know what to expect (or maybe not, since the US version is supposedly 7.1 after all...).

I have no problem with the style since its expected after watching DMC. Other that the inconsistency of it, like you said, overall I'm satisfied with the look and PQ. Not Hot Fuzz or KK sharp but it is what is.

The AQ is just so good. Clear, deep, dynamic and enveloping sound. Your surround speakers will came to life like it never did before. The ship to ship battle is just too much. Audio cues coming right at you from everywhere, rain coming down, roaring sea, splashes, swords clanking, explosions, dialogues loud and clear, more explosions :D and that heroic soundtrack complementing all this. I probably heard the best AQ ever on my setup.

IF DMC is Tier 0, AWE certainly is too! No doubt!

Personally I didn't notice any macroblocking at all. If you noticed it, how come you didn't on Blood Diamond or any other WB title? Grain however is noticable in darker scenes, but overall it's a flawless picture!


Huh?

Matrix Revolutions also had blocking in its final rain soaked battle. A scene not too dissimilar from POTC:AWE.

Yup. There is always some blocking.

Blood Diamond had some minor noise and blocking during the darker scenes (the blacks also somewhat grey where made spotting those not too hard). For every sharp scene you'd get a soft one, it was a fairly inconsistent title. More obvious than in PotC I'd say.

Blood Diamond had some minor noise and blocking during the darker scenes (the blacks also somewhat grey where made spotting those not too hard). For every sharp scene you'd get a soft one, it was a fairly inconsistent title. More obvious than in PotC I'd say.

I agree with you. I did not make a comment on Blood Diamond other than it has very good PQ (hmmm I think I made screenshots of this too:))

I think I have a pretty good idea what they are trying to accomplish here. Good thing we can click on post histories :)

I agree with you. I did not make a comment on Blood Diamond other than it has very good PQ (hmmm I think I made screenshots of this too:))

I think I have a pretty good idea what they are trying to accomplish here. Good thing we can click on post histories :)

Overall it has satisfactory PQ, it's far from being VERY good :rolleyes:

Overall it has satisfactory PQ, it's far from being VERY good :rolleyes:

Ok then! You win!

I love this scene :D

http://www.imageviper.com/displayimage/103516/0/AWErequestpix.png

http://www.imageviper.com/displayimage/103517/0/AWErequestpix2.png

She searched too long. I mean is it a lobby down there? :p And Captain Barbosa's reaction is precious :D

Ok then! You win!

I don't need to win, that's not the point I'm trying to make Xylon. There are various opinions about movies, but I don't think we'll disagree about Pirates looking a LOT better than Blood Diamond. Pirates isn't Tier 0, I agree, all Pirates movies belong in Tier 1.

I don't need to win, that's not the point I'm trying to make Xylon. There are various opinions about movies, 1. but I don't think we'll disagree about Pirates looking a LOT better than Blood Diamond. Pirates isn't Tier 0, I agree, but Blood Diamond isn't Tier 1 either. 2. All Pirates movies belong in Tier 1.

1. Yes!, what are we arguing about again?

2. Then why not say so? at the tier thread? Make yourself be heard! DMC has been on TIER 0 for months! MONTHS! One person who disagreed posted about it and guess what? that guy? ME!!! That's it! Moi! No one else!

If I'm not the only one after my dissenting post then I probably missed it. Hmm I wonder who else back then?

1. Yes!, what are we arguing about again?

2. Then why not say so? at the tier thread? Make yourself be heard! DMC has been on TIER 0 for months! MONTHS! One person who disagreed posted about it and guess what? that guy? ME!!! That's it! Moi! No one else!

If I'm not the only one after my dissenting post then I probably missed it. Hmm I wonder who else back then?

That's why I said that IF DMC is Tier 0, AWE is so too. I didn't say it IS Tier 0! For an actual film it looks very very good, but only CGI will be able to reach Tier 0 material.

I don't visit the Tier Thread that often, and I don't think I will be heard anyway since I already mentioned several things in the past and got no reply. I don't bother with that thread anymore

I never considered POTC 1 & 2 to be reference titles. The outdoor scenes were terrific but the dark scenes had slight macroblocking which was noticeable in the broadcast versions too. To me Starship Troopers, Casino Royale, 300 and Pearl Harbor are slightly better reference titles than POTC.

As long as the PQ on this title is about equal to DMC, I'll be quite happy.

The disc to compare all to for PQ by the way is Galapagos! Run, don't walk! :)

So,

is it safe to presume that, videowise, its the exact same encode as the european version ?
Or might it be a slightly different encode ? :confused:

Hmm, i was hoping that the us-version would get a slightly better video-encode, because it does only have four audio-tracks, compared to the seven audio-tracks the german version does have.

Hmm, then it seems i can cancel my order :D

:confused:

Who me? Traffic?! Are you even paying attention to my threads?! :eek: What the heck do I have to do get some respect around here!

I almost got banned from AVS when I ask too many questions about Traffic in the Insider forum! Thats right. uh-oh. My posts deleted and replies deleted. So there.

Fair enough for not answering my questions I don't have want you to get banned.

Good! Let the guy in charge of the Tier thread to let him know. WTH! Space Odyssey 2001 TIER 0!? I never check the Tier threads anymore but damn!


Not one of you guys even tried to correct him? Very disappointing

"you guys" I can only imagine blu-ray fans as opposed to those who lean red like yourself. Well, I personally haven't watchet it yet. And I'm still confused if it is ok with you for others have a different opinion other than your own. With DMC you want to "correct" opinions and with Peter Bracke's it seems his opinions should be protected ( his is somehow superior due to certain classes he took at USC in your mind).. And now this title you want to "correct" the teir rating. But yeah, don't want to get you banned.

Back on topic, despite hearing this is the weakest of the 3 I loook forward to watching it. If it is on sale for under $20 I'll snag it instead of renting.

"you guys" I can only imagine blu-ray fans as opposed to those who lean red like yourself.

LOL! Can't really help yourself can you? :D

LOL! Can't really help yourself can you? :D

That is funny, I was thinking the same thing with your initial response back to me ;)

As long as the PQ on this title is about equal to DMC, I'll be quite happy.

The disc to compare all to for PQ by the way is Galapagos! Run, don't walk! :)

Definitely, I'd be more than happy if it matched the PQ and AQ of DMC. Galapagos is simply breathtaking. I just received Africa: Serengeti (4 imax titles for $36 shipped:D ) yestereday which is narrated by Mufasa. Looks good but definitely not on the same level of Galapagos.

Got Pirates 3 today from Disney. I am working on my review now. This one is a keeper! Looks and sounds VERY VERY VERY Good :)

http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/5255/pirates31ok7.jpg
Josh, from the picture it looks as though that copy came in a Viva Elite case, with the painted-on BD logo like Fox and Warner use. Or am I seeing things?

Josh, from the picture it looks as though that copy came in a Viva Elite case, with the painted-on BD logo like Fox and Warner use. Or am I seeing things?

looks like it to me too.

lmao.. This is the only flick worse than shrek 3..

Strong recommendation here -

Rent this garbage before you buy it. Its pretty, love the PQ, but it just isnt worth owning.

lmao.. This is the only flick worse than shrek 3..

Strong recommendation here -

Rent this garbage before you buy it. Its pretty, love the PQ, but it just isnt worth owning.

Yeah i also thought it was bad, but i have part 1 and 2 on bluray so i have to have this part also:D

Gekkou, it does look like the case has the painted-on BD logo, but i have the UK release and that one does have the proper moulded BD logo on the case, if that's the deal-breaker for you.

Was checking prices and Target has it pre-order for $23.99. That's ten cents a minute or so. :)

One of their stores is on my way to the office and since I have a gift card also, I'll get it from there next week. I think they would PM other B&M stores if I find a better price.

Thanks for your impressions on this title. I'm sure more will be coming and I'll continue to tune in.

lmao.. This is the only flick worse than shrek 3..

Strong recommendation here -

Rent this garbage before you buy it. Its pretty, love the PQ, but it just isnt worth owning.

Guess you didn't comprehend the ending... :rolleyes: They are already talking about a 4th film so relax, as long as they keep making money, this will be a generation of sequels that we are going to see for the next 10-15 years I think, till fresh new writers are in place.

~Bobby

lmao.. This is the only flick worse than shrek 3..

Strong recommendation here -

Rent this garbage before you buy it. Its pretty, love the PQ, but it just isnt worth owning.

Thanks for not imposing you're view on this title.... :rolleyes:

so can someone finally confirm is it region free or coded?

I'm sure this may have been answered, but I missed it, but why is this film in 1080i?!! I got my copy from Disney a week ago and have watched it twice and it looks amazing, but looking at the case it says the film is in 1080i High Definition/2.35:1. Why would they do that?

Sounds like a typo to me--or you are looking at the info for the special features.

It's a typo. Disney's site also lists 1080i for the main feature.

no im lookin in the right spot, feature video 1080i, its on the actual case as well as the paper sleeve that the movie came in

Typo.

How can that be missed during a quality check? Stupid!

It's a pretty big "typo" I mean there are millions of copies out there with "typo's" on them. Whatever still looking forward to it!

Easy enough to tell.. just pop up the menu on your TV, should tell you what the incoming signal is. I don't really care what's on the packaging, so long as it looks good when I watch it. That's why I'm in the HD camp to begin with, after all. :)

I don't think the film is the "greatest ever", but it's also not the worst. I only saw it once in theaters, and I remember thinking how the plot meandered about a bit, and took some time to figure out what the hell was going on. But on the whole, I found it highly entertaining, which is worth the price of admission to me. And I remember thinking how great it's going to look on Blu-ray. :)

Just seen the trailer for this in Hi definition on The Invisible Blu-ray title.
PQ looks great. Can't wait to get it on Tuesday.

Another review:

http://www.***************.com/fusionbb/showtopic.php?tid/139602/

I'm looking forward to At World's End tomorrow, but now I also want Nightmare Before Christmas on Blu-Ray as well!

Wish there was a release date?

Looks like Amazon removed the additional 10% discount from my order (without notifying me) before they charged my card. I thought this deal was supposed to last until the end of the year. Has anybody else had this happen, or is it just me? I know I haven't reached the $500 limit yet so I'm not sure what the deal is.

I got an email from Amazon this morning that my preorder of PotC: AWE shipped today.
I'm still getting the 10% discount on this and other orders and preorders.

How can that be missed during a quality check? Stupid!There are numerous typos/errors on many home video release packages... this is not unique. Errors happen.

Can anyone confirm if the pictures of epic teasers of titles to be released on BD is on the US version from the OP's orginial post?

"First thing you're greeted with is an epic teaser of titles to come in the (probably distant...) future. Lots of animation titles snipped together around some a few catalogue live action ones."

Yes, it's there... just like on the Ratatouille Blu-Ray last month. Nothing new. It's just Disney promo fodder, and so far it just means the various titles listed are available on DVD & Blu-Ray... which doesn't mean they are available on both currently. It'll be long time before you see all of them on BD.

There are numerous typos/errors on many home video release packages... this is not unique. Errors happen.

As another example, Night at the Museum lists an aspect ratio of 2.35:1 on the package when it's actually 1.85:1.

Another review:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=949654

Got mine at Target this morning for $29.99. I didn't have an ad for a lower price. I wasn't really going to go elsewhere though as this store was on my way to the office and I had a gift card. Cannot wait to watch it this evening!

Not sure of the spelling error, but for grammar, it says "an knockout" instead of 'a knockout'. :confused:

Hmmm, during my layback! Amazing technology :o

I don't think anyone proof reads the back of the movies nowadays. I think they're supposed to be like those newspapers you see in tv shows and films. You know, the ones that have some gibberish or just repeat the same paragraphs over and over instead of a real story. :D

A couple of things, any more reviews on the new pirates movie.

Also, what other mistakes are there on the rocky BD, Iv'e been looking at my puter too long and my brain no longer functions properly today.

I see layback instead of playback...

Another review:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=949654

Got mine at Target this morning for $29.99. I didn't have an ad for a lower price. I wasn't really going to go elsewhere though as this store was on my way to the office and I had a gift card. Cannot wait to watch it this evening!

Target online has this priced at $23.99.

^^^^^^
My store would not honor the online price. I specifically asked about that.

"layback-- with my mind on money & my money on my mind." My mind is especially on my money when comes to the price of Fox BD's!

Same as poster above. Local walmarts and Targets will not honor their online price. But of course you can buy it online and have it shipped to the store so you don't pay shippin:rolleyes:, so lame......

Same as poster above. Local walmarts and Targets will not honor their online price. But of course you can buy it online and have it shipped to the store so you don't pay shippin:rolleyes:, so lame......

What a remarkably stupid business practice! :eek:

Wow, I would like to thank Amazon for shipping my copy in soft bubble-wrap packaging, so the sleeve is all bent and ripped by USPS.

Wow, I would like to thank Amazon for shipping my copy in soft bubble-wrap packaging, so the sleeve is all bent and ripped by USPS.

USPS SUCKS!! My POTC, Superbad, and Mr. and Ms. Smith have been sitting in a city 2 hours away since yesterday afternoon, and I won't get my movies until at least tomorrow. Garbage ass postal service.

Wow, I would like to thank Amazon for shipping my copy in soft bubble-wrap packaging, so the sleeve is all bent and ripped by USPS.

USPS SUCKS!! My POTC, Superbad, and Mr. and Ms. Smith have been sitting in a city 2 hours away since yesterday afternoon, and I won't get my movies until at least tomorrow. Garbage ass postal service.

USPS is bad enough as is, and they are much much worse during holiday shopping season, avoid at all cost during this period.

i'm a Prime member so i get all my orders via UPS 2day for free, well if you count the yearly fee paid tho it's more than paid for itself already.

Whats the consensus of what tier POTC-AWE lands on?? or is it still too early to know?

Here's is some info on the packaging specific to the labeling of these discs.

http://bluray.highdefdigest.com/news/show/1226

Bought it at Best Buy today, although I did not get a free t-shirt, I cannot wait to watch it along with Superbad.

I pre-ordered from deepdiscounts and it has not even shipped yet. No date has been given either. Doubt I'll be doing any preorders there anymore. I was told it would ship to arrive around Dec. 4th but heck it's not even shipped on Dec 4th.

I got this anlong with superbad. Picked them up at wal*mart as best buy is way to high..

I got this anlong with superbad. Picked them up at wal*mart as best buy is way to high..

Um.. I went to BB and gladly paid the extra 6 cents.

Um.. I went to BB and gladly paid the extra 6 cents.

How much is it at BB? I paid $25 for it at Frys. Superbad was same price too.

Am I reading correctly in that the packaging is mislabled. The package from BB for POTC AWE states it is 1080i but Hidefdigest states it is a 1080p transfer. What is correct?

How much is it at BB? I paid $25 for it at Frys. Superbad was same price too.



29.99 @ BB
Got it for 20.00 and some cents after BB pricematch target and after 5.00 reward certificate:D

The box does say 1080i, but I have to believe that is a misprint.

It's a typo--the movie is 1080p. This has been confirmed by Disney:

http://bluray.highdefdigest.com/news/show/Technical_Glitches/High-Def_Disc_Packaging/Disney/Disney_Confirms_Packaging_Gaffe_on_At_Worlds_End_Blu-ray_/1226

where are these guys printing discs?

Jack Ryan had features listed that weren't there. Transformers had wet paint. Warner doesn't even ship anything. CotBP has a huge framing issue. And this says 1080i

And that commercial still has a little '7.1' pop up when the scene from AWE is shown. And who thought it was a good idea to shrink the film when you access special features? The overlays and pop up screens are so much nicer.

18 months later and we have more early adopter issues than ever.
BTW- has anyone tested the Blu and Red cases for lead paint?
Sometimes I like to chew on these.

I tend to agree with High Def Digest's review on this one. It looks great but it didn't really wow me in alot of scenes and alot of that is due to the darker look of the film. It doesn't look bad, but its not gonna be one of the discs you whip out to show off Blu's visuals. The audio on the other hand is stellar as expected. Tons of extras and a nice wrap up for the trilogy IMO.

I tend to agree with High Def Digest's review on this one. It looks great but it didn't really wow me in alot of scenes and alot of that is due to the darker look of the film. It doesn't look bad, but its not gonna be one of the discs you whip out to show off Blu's visuals. The audio on the other hand is stellar as expected. Tons of extras and a nice wrap up for the trilogy IMO.
I agree, the scenes that aren't dark are great though. The dark scenes are great for being dark.

I only watched half of it last night. I stated in an earlier post on this thread I'd be happy if it matched or came close to DMC. Unfortunately in my opinion, it does not. Peter has every right to rate this latest film below DMC. I may not agree with his overall score for DMC but this latest title falls short of that for picture quality in most every way.

I may be overreacting with this initial assessment of half the movie but I'm not really sure my opinion will change watching the second half. Time will tell I suppose. This was one of my most anticipated releases of the year and so far I'm rather disappointed. Why it falls way short of the other two for PQ up to this point isn't something I'm real happy about but I suppose I jumped the gun and shouldn't have paid top price! I got the others during a BOGO. Some sites pegged this last release as a reference? Say what so far!!!!

As far as ranting a bit further this morning, please folks read the posts!! I supplied a link to the packaging error and only a short way down I see questions and a repeat of that link afterwards!

Watched it last night. I wasn't all that impressed with the picture, but a lot of that has to do with it being so dark. My biggest gripe is the audio! The other two have great audio at DD 5.1 but I was distinctly underwhelmed by AWE, particularly with the bass, the whole thing just sounded compressed. I even went as far as double checking the setting on my Sammy 1000 to make sure dynamic compression hadn't somehow gotten turned on. IMO the worst of the three POTC BDs.

Watched it last night. I wasn't all that impressed with the picture, but a lot of that has to do with it being so dark. My biggest gripe is the audio! The other two have great audio at DD 5.1 but I was distinctly underwhelmed by AWE, particularly with the bass, the whole thing just sounded compressed. I even went as far as double checking the setting on my Sammy 1000 to make sure dynamic compression hadn't somehow gotten turned on. IMO the worst of the three POTC BDs.

I think you're going to be in the vast minority with that audio opinion!

I was actually hoping for better bass from cannon shot's being from the battle scenes, I was listening to the LPCM soundtrack as well. I don't HDAlien is too far off.

Um.. I went to BB and gladly paid the extra 6 cents.

Yup, got it from Best Buy too, as Amazon's shipping speed has sucked lately. You picked up the exclusive bonus disc right?

I was actually hoping for better bass from cannon shot's being from the battle scenes, I was listening to the LPCM soundtrack as well. I don't HDAlien is too far off.

agreed, it wasn't as bombastic as the first 2 with the cannon shots and stuff.

It looks great but it didn't really wow me in alot of scenes and alot of that is due to the darker look of the film. It doesn't look bad, but its not gonna be one of the discs you whip out to show off Blu's visuals.

I agree, the scenes that aren't dark are great though. The dark scenes are great for being dark.

It is much better to judge a video transfer/encode based on difficult material, not on the "eye candy". Based on this, this BD of Pirates 3 is one of the best video transfers I have seen, bar none. Very difficult material, but no visible video/compression related problems. In other words, it looks like it is supposed to look.

Another issue to be considered is the types of video displays people are using these days. With the limited dymnamic range of so many digital displays, particularly LCD displays, this type of material will look relatively worse than on a display that can actually do the cinematography justice. Bright, colorful stuff is easy. Dark, dim, muted colors are much harder to do well.

Robert,

I would tend to agree to a point but there is also difficult material in the first two films. I don't think this material was handled as well as those. What is your preference/order of the films based on PQ and did you use the same display?

I have a Tosh 50" 4:3 RPTV display from yesteryear and I'm running component 1080i. Not great obviously but I could draw some conclusion since I use the same display for each of the movies. It didn't matter if I used the PS3 or Panny BD30 as my result was that AWE was the poorest quality.

Yup, got it from Best Buy too, as Amazon's shipping speed has sucked lately. You picked up the exclusive bonus disc right?

dang, mine shipped out monday and i received tuesday from amazon. guess it pays to be a prime member. shipping speed will no doubt suck if you chose the free shipping via usps. they are not great to begin and are always horrible during the holiday shopping season.

I would tend to agree to a point but there is also difficult material in the first two films. I don't think this material was handled as well as those. What is your preference/order of the films based on PQ and did you use the same display?

I have only had time to sample the new disc. Actually, I was only going to take a quick look and didn't stop it until about a half hour in. Of what I saw, I find the overall lighting and production design of AWE to be "darker", yet more dense and more detailed (from a production design perspective) than both previous films. I find both Curse of the Black Pearl and Dead Man's Chest to be "brighter', more colorful films.

I am basing this on having looked at both previous films many times on a Sony VW50 (Pearl) projector and the new film was watched on the newer VW60 (Black Pearl). I plan to re-watch the first two films later in the week/weekend before sitting down with AWE. I'll have a better perspective on comparisons then. Just from memory, I feel the AVC encode of AWE is visibly superior to the MPEG encode of Curse of the Black Pearl, which I have never thought was deserving of the reputation it has gained.

If this discussion is still going on in a few days, I'll add any relevant comments. I'm having a little surgical procedure done tomorrow, so I won't be hanging out in front of the projector until Friday or Saturday.

All 3 films on Blu-ray are AVC encoded.

Hmmm. Faulty memory. Maybe it was that I always thought it looked like an MPEG-2 encode.

wal mart has it for 22.73 23.17 something like that . i printed it off wal marts web sight and price matched it at curcuit city .

^^^^^^^

Website prices are not price matched in my experience. I'm glad you were able to get it for that. I have always needed to provide a printed ad from a B&M store before they would PM.

I just looked at mine. And it has fingerprints all over the slipcover. Like fifty hands on wet paint.

Anyone else have this?

That or it's just a really stupid looking texture effect.

I just looked at mine. And it has fingerprints all over the slipcover. Like fifty hands on wet paint.

Anyone else have this?

That or it's just a really stupid looking texture effect.

It's a texture effect

Stupid effect on the cover, all of them have this.

I also printed out walmarts price, took it to best buy, and bought the movie for walmarts online price, they matched it with a big smile on their faces, no prob at all.

Walmart has the stupidist policy that I have ever seen. You can buy it online and ship it to the store closest to you so that you don't have to pay shipping. Well, the movie is already at the store, what the hell is the point of shipping it? Seems like they make it harder on themselves and customers, just a lot of unecassary work. They should do what CC does, but it online and then pick it up at the store in 20 minutes.

tier 0 for me. the darker scenes are what did it for me. usually grain is a big issue in darker scenes but was absent is most of the film. the singapore scenes were very clear and crisp for being in the dark. the locker and arctic shots were perfect. the maelstrom was the icing on the cake. easily the best fx sequence in movie history. The one thing they most improved on was davy jones in the darker scenes. he looked fantastic in dead man's chest but this movie he was just phenominal. dead man's chest was impressive because most of the 3D shots were daytime shots. this film took a darker approach and impressed me that it could deliver a stunning picture no matter what the setting was.

HeHe...Maybe not but if you want instant gratification combined with Amazons price, just go to Target.com and find your movie and printout the Target page (which is actually fulfilled by Amazon it seems) and hand it to the BestBuy Or CircuitCity cashier and they will price match it without hesitation. This works 99% of the time.:D

I do this every Tuesday and have been doing this all year long.

They did give me a hassle yesterday at BB with Battlestar Galactica S1 HD-DVD for 30% less than ripoff BB's price, but I just went to another BB and didnt have any problem. The cashier was surprised how expensive their price was and the manager who approved the override seemed to want to get a copy himself!
^^^^^^^

Website prices are not price matched in my experience. I'm glad you were able to get it for that. I have always needed to provide a printed ad from a B&M store before they would PM.

Maybe I am Stubborn... is there any Reputable source that verify it's 1080p not 1080i as Disney claims?

This is a HUGE typo, so I don't think Disney did this, and not put up any correction Notices is any better erasing my doubts! Have Disney put up any Notices yet?

How can you tell it's 1080p not 1080i from display?

It's encoded on disc as 1080p/23.976. I and many others have seen and confirmed this. It's just a simple typo, don't worry about it.

It's encoded on disc as 1080p/23.976. I and many others have seen and confirmed this. It's just a simple typo, don't worry about it.

I hope you are right.

I Demand a REcall from Disney if it's really just 1080i!

Maybe I am Stubborn... is there any Reputable source that verify it's 1080p not 1080i as Disney claims?

This is a HUGE typo, so I don't think Disney did this, and not put up any correction Notices is any better erasing my doubts! Have Disney put up any Notices yet?

How can you tell it's 1080p not 1080i from display?

Well I push the magical "Display" button on my A2000 TV and it shows me what its getting sent to it. When I watch the main film it displays 1080p and when I watch the extra disc it shows 1080i. So I'm pretty convinced that its in 1080p, that combined with every major disc review stating the fact and acknowledging the error on the packaging!:rolleyes:

Got finished watching it. As most have stated, it isn't lush as the first movie or like the 2nd, but was still rather clean and sharp.

The plot wasn't up to par with 1 & 2, but still worth watching in the end.

This one loaded quite a bit faster on my BDP-S1 than the last two - that was a pleasant surprise.

It is much better to judge a video transfer/encode based on difficult material, not on the "eye candy". Based on this, this BD of Pirates 3 is one of the best video transfers I have seen, bar none. Very difficult material, but no visible video/compression related problems. In other words, it looks like it is supposed to look.

Another issue to be considered is the types of video displays people are using these days. With the limited dymnamic range of so many digital displays, particularly LCD displays, this type of material will look relatively worse than on a display that can actually do the cinematography justice. Bright, colorful stuff is easy. Dark, dim, muted colors are much harder to do well.

I agree that it is a great transfer...I said after seeing it in the theater that it would not be as striking looking as the first 2 due to the darkness of the film. I'm just saying that it is not as eye popping as the first 2 or other BD "demo" discs. It actually looks better than I thought considering the photography.

tier 0 for me. the darker scenes are what did it for me. usually grain is a big issue in darker scenes but was absent is most of the film. the singapore scenes were very clear and crisp for being in the dark. the locker and arctic shots were perfect. the maelstrom was the icing on the cake. easily the best fx sequence in movie history. The one thing they most improved on was davy jones in the darker scenes. he looked fantastic in dead man's chest but this movie he was just phenominal. dead man's chest was impressive because most of the 3D shots were daytime shots. this film took a darker approach and impressed me that it could deliver a stunning picture no matter what the setting was.

So far I have only watched an hour of the movie, but based on that I would say this is the very best PQ I have seen. In my opinion, much, much better than POTC2, which I think is overrated for PQ.

Are you guys crazy? This movie had awesome picture quality, better than the first two. Easily one of the top 5 (non-animated) best picture quality movies on any format.

So far I have only watched an hour of the movie, but based on that I would say this is the very best PQ I have seen. In my opinion, much, much better than POTC2, which I think is overrated for PQ.

+1. I totally agree that POTC-2 wasn't the best in terms of PQ.

I thought the PQ was much nicer in the beginning of the film and got softer as the movie went on.Definitely not quite up with the quality of the first two films, which were almost flawless.The SQ was also much better in the first two Pirate films imo(At World's End seems to lack the "oomf!" for lack of a better term).I was expecting the PotC:AWE to easily be equivalent to my Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix UK import HD-DVD but unfortunately it isn't.

I find the disc still well worth the purchase price(especially if you on the 1st 2 already),and the PQ and SQ are very,very good, just not as good as some other recent releases such as Ratatouille(BRD) or Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix(UK HD-DVD).

The PQ was great.

I thought the PQ was much nicer in the beginning of the film and got softer as the movie went on.Definitely not quite up with the quality of the first two films, which were almost flawless.

As far as change in PQ during the movie, I had the opposite reaction. I thought the PQ improved as the movie went on. And, as I have said, I thought the PQ in the third movie was much, much better than the first two.

The scene where Jack Sparrow is first shown and he's sniffing, I see his nose and paws, oil, and all that (no homo lol) and was like wow....this is what High Def is all about.

The display one is utilizing and resolution obviously yields different feedback on the PQ. I don't suppose many are using something in my category, a Tosh 50" 4:3 display with only component connection with top resolution 1080i.

I tried the first half of the movie again. I'm not one to fiddle with picture adjustment but the Panny BD30 has such a feature. I dialed this one in a bit better and sat closer and while not dramatic, I noted an improvement over my first viewing. Still not as good as the first two films on my display so I guess I don't have what it takes to vault this one to the top!

To giving an example, the chapter when Jack first comes into the movie on the Black Pearl with the imaginery crew was downright bad. Now I do know about the intent per se, but the picture was not focused, a bit washed out, lacked detail etc. etc.! I'll admit the dark scenes were pretty darn good in so far as what I viewed of this movie.

Maybe I am Stubborn... is there any Reputable source that verify it's 1080p not 1080i as Disney claims?

This is a HUGE typo, so I don't think Disney did this, and not put up any correction Notices is any better erasing my doubts! Have Disney put up any Notices yet?

How can you tell it's 1080p not 1080i from display?

From HighDefDigest (http://www.highdefdigest.com/news/show/Technical_Glitches/High-Def_Disc_Packaging/Disney/Disney_Confirms_Packaging_Gaffe_on_At_Worlds_End_Blu-ray_/1226):

We've since contacted Disney about the apparent labeling snafu, and a rep confirmed that copies of the release were indeed incorrectly marked as 1080i. At press time, the studio was not planning a recall of the mislabeled copies of 'At World's End,' but said that the error would be corrected on future pressings of the title.

Brandon

The display one is utilizing and resolution obviously yields different feedback on the PQ. I don't suppose many are using something in my category, a Tosh 50" 4:3 display with only component connection with top resolution 1080i.

I tried the first half of the movie again. I'm not one to fiddle with picture adjustment but the Panny BD30 has such a feature. I dialed this one in a bit better and sat closer and while not dramatic, I noted an improvement over my first viewing. Still not as good as the first two films on my display so I guess I don't have what it takes to vault this one to the top!

To giving an example, the chapter when Jack first comes into the movie on the Black Pearl with the imaginery crew was downright bad. Now I do know about the intent per se, but the picture was not focused, a bit washed out, lacked detail etc. etc.! I'll admit the dark scenes were pretty darn good in so far as what I viewed of this movie.

I don't ordinarily like to call into question people's displays, but that scene did not look anything like bad on mine. In contrast, that scene was probably the point where I thought the movie really started looking good.

What I'm going to end up doing is take the disc with me to a B&M store that has much better displays. Maybe they will already have AWE playing on a kiosk with a BD player. If not, I'll try my copy. I've done it before and they don't have a problem letting you do it because they hope to entice you to buy the display.

I screened this last night and compared it to the SD-DVD.
I'm not happy with any of the Pirates on BD in all honesty.

Maybe it is the BD-P1000 causing my issues with some titles, I am going to review it further with my PS3 over the weekend.

I screened this last night and compared it to the SD-DVD.
I'm not happy with any of the Pirates on BD in all honesty.

Maybe it is the BD-P1000 causing my issues with some titles, I am going to review it further with my PS3 over the weekend.

WOW...you're not happy with any of the Pirates movies ?...although not jaw dropping but still very nice transfers.

If you're not happy with the quality of any of the Pirates movies I strogly think there may be something wrong with your setup. I think the last 2 are simply reference quality. I leave the first one out because of the framing issues of sourse.

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Something wrong with the setup or is it one's display quality? What display are you using and what resolution?

I'll admit I don't have an issue with all of these though.

Maybe I am Stubborn... is there any Reputable source that verify it's 1080p not 1080i as Disney claims?

This is a HUGE typo, so I don't think Disney did this, and not put up any correction Notices is any better erasing my doubts! Have Disney put up any Notices yet?

How can you tell it's 1080p not 1080i from display?

If you put the disc in and your happy with the results, why worry about it. I will go out on a limb here and say, if you make a statement like that then your display is not highend (our you would be able to press a single button and it pop out at you.) therefore the difference of 1080i/p would be a moot point.

:D

I paused my up connverted dvd via hd-dvd ,because I was to late to get a blu-ray copy at blockbuster....and all i can say is.....OH MY GOD! If the blu-ray copy looks anything like the dvd ,I may crap my pants. if anybody wants to know if this movie is better then transformers...they are off their blankin rockers. NOW...back to the movie

I agree with Robert George about the PQ. This is truly superb. My display is a Panasonic 720P Professional Plasma fed by the PS3 HDMI.

Watched it on my ISF'd Pioneer Elite Pro150FD. In a word...spectacular :)

picture quality is first rate, and sound is unbelievable! I just purchased a sony kdl 46xbr4 lcd tv and wow! what a picture. I will have to upgrade my 720p projector in the theater room. What a difference 1080p makes.

All right, I don't know what kinda equipment some people here have, or how their eyes work, but this is a tier 0, demo blu-ray if I ever saw one on my 70" XBR2!

Just got done watching it and it's crystal clear, very minimal grain, and is either the same or better then DMC.

One thing that put's it over DMC is the fact that alot of the movie was shot in dark scenes, and for most titles to date, the finally would have killed the movie's picture quality.

Couldn't see any macro blocking or pixilixation in the final fight; mind you it had rain, fast pans, close ups, strobe light lightning, fast action, wood partials flying around, ect. Haven't seen a movie yet get it right, and we all know lighting and rain usually kill the crystal clear HD in those scenes [heard matrix 3 has major macro blocking]. Not here!

I think people are rating this lower because the art direction isn't as "pretty" as DMC {brilliant blues, greens, whites, ect}. Though luck, this movie was shot with an art style more in the dark blues, grays, and blacks, which conveniently convey much of the mood of the film. Also noticed a lot of shots use a very close and selective depth of field, so things in the background may be out of focus slightly when trained on the main actor [camera work, not the print]. It's how it was supposed to be.

The brilliant colors are right back at the end of the film, last shot and on the extra scene at the credit roll.

Anyways my 2 cents, people thinking it's below DMC are on crack!

I don't ordinarily like to call into question people's displays, but that scene did not look anything like bad on mine. In contrast, that scene was probably the point where I thought the movie really started looking good.

Agreed, the shot was supersaturated to convey a desert [i think it was filmed at the Utah salt flats], also many shots in this movie used different depths of fields. Most noticeable to me was a shot with Barbosa in the background in front of Elisabeth about 2/3 the way through the movie before the finally. The movie was shot this way and it's the same in theaters. As for the transfer, it's wonderful and keeps all detail that was meant to be shown. You're not going to get rid of the directors depth of field from a transfer man!

As said above, in one scene I could literally count and reply back here how many pores Sparrow has on his nose [ and yes the background is intentinally blured in that shot too]

Can anyone confirm whether this disc was done by Panasonic, and, if so, whether that is a change from the first two movies?

If you're not happy with the quality of any of the Pirates movies I strogly think there may be something wrong with your setup. I think the last 2 are simply reference quality. I leave the first one out because of the framing issues of sourse.

I am willing to admit that on this thrid one it may be something odd with the BD-P1000

I had some minor crawly type noise in some faces and backgrounds in some scenes.

I own two displays. Both 1080p. 106" in the theater and 61" in the living room.

Crawly noise is a pet peve of mine, it takes me out of the movie every time. The resolution is there, it is the occasional artifact that drives me crazy.

I also will admit, I have not done any direct comparisons from Sd to HD on the 2nd POTC release. But I did on this third one. I am going try a few more things. I am supposed to have a major screening on AWE tomorrow, lots of people in attendence and all. Se we shall see how it goes.

I had some minor crawly type noise in some faces and backgrounds in some scenes.


Thats odd! Didn't see anything of the sort with my viewing last night..

All in all i think the Monkey stole the show.:)

I suppose this is telling me that my display is capable of showing a very good picture (Galapados) depending on the material. If one was to view AWE on my display or the like, I'm sure they would agree with my assessment.

I'll have to consider not keeping the Panny BD30 (I hate to lose DTS HD Ma and True HD on my Onkyo SR 605). I already own a PS3 and I'd put the money into a display instead of a second player.

Does anyone find this film very green? The underlying colour throughout the whole movie seemed to be this greenish tint on everything especially in dark scenes like the dutchman.

I just wanted to know if it was the directors intent, glare from all the seeweed or my xbr4 settings are off. (they shouldnt be but it's possible I got a bum replacement set *hope not*)

I have watched the first 45 minutes or so of AWE on my PS3. The colors look a bit muted to me and there is some noticable grain. I didn't see any of this on the first 2 POTC movies. I wonder why some folks see this as a great transfer and others don't. The flaws I see are not from nitpicking; they are quire apparent.

Thats odd! Didn't see anything of the sort with my viewing last night..

My takes, impressions, or ratings I'd give on titles is so different from what I read on here. I usually check stuff on the PS3 to make sure if I see the same stuff on it, but I didn't this time yet.

Some people are reporting grain on it, well so far I just don't think grain looks natural in general on BD, that goes some for fog too come to think of it.


I used to blame Blu-ray, now I am not so sure. I did recently have my first title that looks way better on Blu-ray than HD-DVD though, so I think I am starting to come around. :)

The movie is not grain free... I notice it in the background on a few of the dimly lit shots. I'd rank this better than DMC but it is not flawless. It could still be a 0 tier IMO but it's not a benchmark by which all others should be compared. I think there are others in the 0 tier that look better.

Pany BD10A > 52" XBR3

Called disney and let them about the what i felt was poor picture on this disc. They are sending a prepaid return disc form , and ask me to send it in for inspection, with possible exchange of disc, if found at fault. So thats my plan as of now.

^^^^^^

What player do you have and what display are you utilizing? Can you please describe the poor picture to some extent? Thanks.

Called disney and let them about the what i felt was poor picture on this disc.

Um... huh?! A disc return would do nothing to fix the problem. It either plays or it doesn't.

I agree with the poster above. Describe the problems you see. Have you calibrated your display? What's your player? What settings are you using? How are they hooked up?

The player is an S1 and the TV is a 60 xbr2 this is 1 of seventy bd movies i own. I also own the other 2 pirate movies. The colors look a bit muted to me and there is some noticeable grain almost looks like sd movie, Also in the black bar section at times they look lighter at times and darker at others, the 1st and 2nd look much more crisp. I see it in beginning of the movie, and feel it warrant's sending it back for inspection.

I suppose you got it online so could not return it to a B&M store perhaps? I really don't think it is the disc per se but there is difficult material in this movie. Many scenes are tough and I just really don't think I have a display that another disc is going to make a difference with. No one is saying there is a bad batch out there.

You can always rent even just the SD DVD from Blockbuster or the like and upconvert it to see if it is basically the same while you wait for Sony.

Any confirmation on the US version being region locked or not?

All I can find points back to the same source.

Did anyone notice if their copy of Pirates of the Caribbean: At World's End had a slight hiccup during the movie playback?

The specific scene that I'm referring to is when the camera quickly pans over to Elizabeth Swan as she enters the Brethren Court. Right after Sparrow says they should wait for Shao Feng to show up before continuing with the meeting.

It's like they tried to stick 2 different takes, but the camera movement didn't quite match up. Or, like the disc was attempting to access the second layer (similar to issues with DVD playback on some DVD players).

I went back and checked it several times just to make sure, but seems to appear on the exact same spot every time.

I was using my PS3 for playback.

Is this an issue with all of the Blu-Ray copies of PotC:AWE? Just mine? Is it an issue with the original footage or even with the DVD version?

Just need to know if I need to take my disc back to get it replaced or not.

EDIT: Not sure why this was moved. This issue is not whether or not the movie plays. I want to know if this is a problem with the source footage or with just my disc.

Excellent PQ. Horrible movie.

Excellent PQ. Horrible movie.

If you understood the plot, the movie was alright. In fact, it was pretty good.

Unfortunately, for most who saw it in theaters, the plot was over their collective heads and so they found it horrible.

Its funny, because there's a Blu-ray insert that explains the Top questions from moviegoers who had trouble understanding the plot. 1st time I've ever seen that in a DVD/Blu-ray movie. :D

I thought the PQ was too grainy. I have a new Panny BD30 + Sammy HL-T7288 DLP (using pro calibrated settings DNIE OFF, Sharpness 50)... I'll have to hook it back up to see if sharpness 0 helps... was going to take it back to BB and try HD DVD instead.

I thought the PQ was too grainy. I have a new Panny BD30 + Sammy HL-T7288 DLP (using pro calibrated settings DNIE OFF, Sharpness 50)... I'll have to hook it back up to see if sharpness 0 helps... was going to take it back to BB and try HD DVD instead.

Good luck finding it in HD-Dvd! Besides, do you really think that any movie would look better in HD-Dvd?

I have watched the first 45 minutes or so of AWE on my PS3. The colors look a bit muted to me and there is some noticable grain. I didn't see any of this on the first 2 POTC movies. I wonder why some folks see this as a great transfer and others don't. The flaws I see are not from nitpicking; they are quire apparent.

We watched the first half last night and I agree with you. The transfer is STILL VERY GOOD and many scenes look great. Its just that after DMC I guess anything will be slightly off. Dont get me wrong: Great PQ, just not reference PQ like some other titles.

The sound is great too, BTW.

Good luck finding it in HD-Dvd! Besides, do you really think that any movie would look better in HD-Dvd?

Yes I believe it would look better due to VC1 encoding. Doesn't Blu Ray use MPEG2?

Got a 37" Panny display now (got a good deal from a co-worker that was antsy to upgrade) and why not since I bought the Panny BD30 and like it. Not sure exactly which specific one Shane has but I'll have to watch these three films again and give my opinion on PQ. Hopefully my viewpoint changes on AWE. It is a 720p display and I could choose 1080i if I desire. I don't have it quite dailed in yet but lots of BDs I viewed in the past on my previous display I do want to try again when I didn't feel the quality was what others feel it should rate.

Picture quality is fine on my system but but not tier 0 quality. Not as good as the other two in my opinion. They need to work on grain problems with their encodes, especially in darker scenes.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not opposed to film grain at all. It's just that this and a few other films have unnatural looking grain, very digitial looking, not natural. Of course, HD DVD has the same problems as well.

Excellent PQ. Horrible movie.
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It looked great, but I found myself wanting it to end. The first one was good, second one ok, but the third installment definitely didn't live up to either of its predecessors.

Yes I believe it would look better due to VC1 encoding. Doesn't Blu Ray use MPEG2?This title is AVC. Blu-Ray and HD DVD can use all 3 video codecs: AVC, VC-1 or MPEG-2.

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It looked great, but I found myself wanting it to end. The first one was good, second one ok, but the third installment definitely didn't live up to either of its predecessors.

I had the same opinion when I saw the movie in theaters but when I watched it again on Blu-ray.... I liked it more than before and now I think that 3rd is better than 2nd.

Did anyone notice if their copy of Pirates of the Caribbean: At World's End had a slight hiccup during the movie playback?

The specific scene that I'm referring to is when the camera quickly pans over to Elizabeth Swan as she enters the Brethren Court. Right after Sparrow says they should wait for Shao Feng to show up before continuing with the meeting.

It's like they tried to stick 2 different takes, but the camera movement didn't quite match up. Or, like the disc was attempting to access the second layer (similar to issues with DVD playback on some DVD players).

I went back and checked it several times just to make sure, but seems to appear on the exact same spot every time.

I was using my PS3 for playback.

Is this an issue with all of the Blu-Ray copies of PotC:AWE? Just mine? Is it an issue with the original footage or even with the DVD version?

Just need to know if I need to take my disc back to get it replaced or not.

Has anyone noticed this on their version? I'd rather not make my way back to the mall if I could avoid it.

I hate how Disney has it setup when you want to skip to a chapter when first starting the movie. Watching the Disney intro and then the warning before the scene selected is VERY irritating to me.

Did anyone really like this film? I have the first 2 but Iam really not a fan of the third one it was all over the place, hi-def or not what would make you pick this title up?

Sucked:eek: not as bad as sheckIII though :o

PQ on this was better than DMC. The octupus scene in the end on DMC wasn't too spectacular. Transformers had better transfer on the daylight scene. And nope, I didn't noticed any grain on this considering there's tons of night/dark scenes.

after all the negativity over the summer about this installment, I was hesitating - i didn't want to waste 3 hours of my evening.

However, i watched it, and i thought it might've been the best movie of the three..the time flew by pretty quick. The first two seemed to drag on.

Looked much much better on my Panny 37" 720p dispaly versus my old Tosh 50" RPTV 4:3. Guess i can see why this may be considered reference by some. One's mileage is going to vary depending what they are using. I was pretty surprised though there was that big of a difference. Got the wow factor this time around.

Looked much much better on my Panny 37" 720p dispaly versus my old Tosh 50" RPTV 4:3. Guess i can see why this may be considered reference by some. One's mileage is going to vary depending what they are using. I was pretty surprised though there was that big of a difference. Got the wow factor this time around.

Good to hear, I was wondering why there was such a split on this movie, when it clearly was just as good as the others when I played them back to back on my setup.

My guess is some people have their setup's wrong, or for some reason the disk doesn't like some specific setups (but I don't really see how thats possible).

I really think it is the display, at least in my case. I was using the Panny BD30 and also tried it on my PS3 with the older Tosh display that I had.

I really have not been satisfied with the quality of some of these BDs that I was getting especially when lots of folks report good things. I cannot say one should run out and buy a new display as that obviously isn't practical for some, but it made a big difference in my case.

I'm glad I didn't necessarily have to break the bank or budget so to speak. I feel much better about viewing titles than before and this hobby is important to me. Same with me getting the Onkyo SR605 decoding DTS Master MA and True HD and that is why I bought a second BD player for bitstream

I am not sure if this was already posted but my Denon 4308 shows that it is receiving 7.1 pcm and not 5.1 like is posted on the cover. I'll take it :D

I was underwhelmed by the audio. Why? I felt it lacked dynamics. The whole last 45min, was just loud. It was a well-orchestrated fury, I'll give them that. There are a thousand things going on all at once and the entire soundfield was used to great effect, which was impressive. But it was just all the same volume. Cannonfire should shock you but it was just somewhat louder than the rest of the chaos. Those of you with family HTs or kiddies are blessed: you don't have to reach for the remote to turn it up for dialogue and down for the battles. But those with with dedicated HTs might long for something more exciting. AWE was like moderate "night mode" was on.

Examples of what I think is dynamic: Cannonade in "Immortal Beloved", grandma's shotgun in "Ratatouille", John McClane shooting down helicopter at the end of "Die Hard 3"

I'm not equipped for uncompressed at this time but that should not matter cuz Ratatouille was very impressive in all aspects.

PQ on this was better than DMC. The octupus scene in the end on DMC wasn't too spectacular. Transformers had better transfer on the daylight scene. And nope, I didn't noticed any grain on this considering there's tons of night/dark scenes.

I would say that there were some black level problems in the Singapore scenes (i.e. too bright, lacking contrast and depth), but unfortunately that's how I remember it in the theater too so the BD is fairly true to the source.

The Denon lists the input as 3/4.1 and all 7 speakers light up on the input side. It's in direct mode so there is no additional processing going on.
They had a typo on the video so it's not a stretch that they goofed on the audio as well.

I'm wondering why a lot of reviewers feel this one doesn't look as good at the first two on BD. How can that even be? Any ideas or opinions why the newest BD isn't as "window" like as the first two?

I'm wondering why a lot of reviewers feel this one doesn't look as good at the first two on BD. How can that even be? Any ideas or opinions why the newest BD isn't as "window" like as the first two?

So far we found one persons issue was his system set-up, and a new TV changed his opinion.

The colors in this film were much more dark and gray, but thats was at the films direction. It's still clear as day, just gray, moody, depressing...

As for others, who knows. Perception be a harsh mistress matey!