When you do a 'remake' you need to step it up a few notches if you want to gain an audience. They had plenty of time to research the original and make the new show better--not worse. It appears most of the money in the new KR went into the car stunts and CG while little was spent on the cast and writing. This is something you'd see on SciFi Channel and not a major network. The only difference would have been cheesy CG and even worse acting on SciFi because of a lower budget.

They had plenty of time to research the original and make the new show better--not worse. It appears most of the money in the new KR went into the car stunts and CG while little was spent on the cast and writing.

You think 'research' is what makes a scripted sci-fi drama better? This wasn't a documentary, and there isn't any way to 'research' chemistry between the actors. That has to develop over time. As for where the money was spent, if you think more money was spent on the car chases and effects than the above-the-line actors and writers, then you don't understand how pilots (even backdoor ones like this) are made. The people doing the effects most likely did the work for a loss, at a fraction of the going rate, in the gamble that the show gets picked up and they make their money back in the long run over the length of the series.

As for the quality of genre shows on major networks, let me throw a few names at you: Cavemen, the recent Bionic Woman remake, or how about these network whoppers from the past: Homeboys in Outer Space, M.A.N.T.I.S., VR.5, and Special Unit 2. Major networks do not neccesarily deliver quality science fiction.

With that being the case why don't more tv stations give shows more time to develop instead of being so quick on the trigger?

Because broadcast network TV shows exist for one reason: Selling soap. People forget that the primary purpose of a show isn't entertainment, it is to sell advertising. If a show isn't getting enough eyeballs to attract advertisers, the networks will find something else that does a better job of it. Unfortunately, a lot of good shows disappear because of that (Journeyman, for example). It's unfortunate, but true.

Because broadcast network TV shows exist for one reason: Selling soap. People forget that the primary purpose of a show isn't entertainment, it is to sell advertising. If a show isn't getting enough eyeballs to attract advertisers, the networks will find something else that does a better job of it. Unfortunately, a lot of good shows disappear because of that (Journeyman, for example). It's unfortunate, but true.

:p
Literally, the term "soap opera" comes from the early stuff being put on the air to sell soap products, P&G, etc.

And I agree with what others have posted. How can a ford focus the bad guys drive keep up with a Mustang Shelby? My guess is Ford wanted people to say "Wow, that's a really cool focus". My thoughts were "Gee, the Mustang with a super computer can't shake a four banger?". Now if Knight Rider was realistic, the ford focus would have broken down on the side of the road leaving the bad guys without a car. :)

On a winding mountain road like the one they were on, there's only so much you can put the pedal down, no matter what kind of car you're in.

I thought the pilot was okay. Certainly not as bad as some people here are saying. I actually think it captured the feel of the original perfectly in terms of the cheese factor, with the anonymous 1980s terrorist/thugs from week to week.

I'm disappointed that KITT isn't the original AI, but I guess they have their reasons. Based on the teasing shots of pieces of the original KITT in Graiman's garage, it seems that they might bring him back at some point.

Because broadcast network TV shows exist for one reason: Selling soap. People forget that the primary purpose of a show isn't entertainment, it is to sell advertising. If a show isn't getting enough eyeballs to attract advertisers, the networks will find something else that does a better job of it. Unfortunately, a lot of good shows disappear because of that (Journeyman, for example). It's unfortunate, but true.

How many shows that developed into great TV would have never happened if networks were so quick with the trigger in the past? One that comes to mind is Seinfeld, I believe after the first season NBC actually thought about cancelling it.

Do you know of any others?

I'm disappointed that KITT isn't the original AI, but I guess they have their reasons. Based on the teasing shots of pieces of the original KITT in Graiman's garage, it seems that they might bring him back at some point.

Was I the only one hoping there would be a distant parting shot of the Hoff
getting into a black Trams Am at the funeral? My impression is that he dumped his babys mama (was she supposed to be the chick that worked in the back of the semi?) to go off and do more .gov work, not just vanish, so presumably he could still have KITT 1.

How many shows that developed into great TV would have never happened if networks were so quick with the trigger in the past? One that comes to mind is Seinfeld, I believe after the first season NBC actually thought about cancelling it.

Do you know of any others?

Star Trek for sure. How many millions has that series made for Paramount? Not sure if they had much to do with the original series versus the movies and the more recent series, but that cash cow would probably be forgotten if it just had one season.

Firefly, as much as I love it, will probably not spawn the same legacy if only due to a lack of source material.

How many shows that developed into great TV would have never happened if networks were so quick with the trigger in the past? One that comes to mind is Seinfeld, I believe after the first season NBC actually thought about cancelling it.

Do you know of any others?
Late Night with Conan O'Brien. His show was on a week-to-week basis for the first three years before they finally cemented a contract. 15 years later, they can joke about it, but he's a golden-boy for NBC right now, even bringing in an Emmy. Next year he takes over for Jay Leno on the Tonight Show, and I can't wait (I'll finally get a chance to go see O'Brien's show in person when he moves to LA).

How many shows that developed into great TV would have never happened if networks were so quick with the trigger in the past? One that comes to mind is Seinfeld, I believe after the first season NBC actually thought about cancelling it.

Do you know of any others?

Family Guy made a good amount of money for Fox after it was canceled/brought back.

Futurama has been a hit in syndication and has spawned direct to dvd releases

We'll see if the Arrested Development movie comes to fruition and sparks a franchise or not...

Just thought of another one...

Police Squad...

Lasted what 8 episodes before it was cancelled, went on to create 3 blockbuster movies?

Battlestar Galactica.

The original was cheesy...bad acting...did not even make it 2 seasons...yet continued to have a "cult" following.

Then 4 years ago we were given the remade/retold BSG which is regarded by most people as one of the best TV shows to come along in a long time.

The remake of Knight Rider did not have to be as cheesy as it was.

I dont know if this qualifies or not because it WAS canceled after the 1st season, and it is still too early to see if there will be any spin offs. It does however have a cult following and in my opinion is one of the greatest shows ever canceled....."The Black Donnelly's"

I dont know if this qualifies or not because it WAS canceled after the 1st season, and it is still too early to see if there will be any spin offs. It does however have a cult following and in my opinion is one of the greatest shows ever canceled....."The Black Donnelly's"

Showtime's 'Brotherhood' mines this same material and does it much better, IMO.

Showtime's 'Brotherhood' mines this same material and does it much better, IMO.

Brotherhood huh? Ive never heard of it. But then again I dont get showtime. I'll google it in a minute. Where are you in Charlotte? I live in Syracuse now, but my wife and I just moved from Charlotte last year.

"The Black Donnelly's"
Ah, yes. I watched this show too, I really thought it was great. They cancelled it after only showing 5 of the first 6 episodes on TV (they refused to air one of them for being too 'graphic', I guess, and it was web-only). Once they announced it was cancelled, I immediately stopped watching because it wasn't worth investing time into a story that was obviously not going to be resolved, and have yet to bother catching up when its on HDNet. With only 13 episodes, not much worth it, I think. But it was a great show.

I think part of the reason I enjoyed watching it was because right around the time it came out, I was really into "The Departed", so much that I was watching it a couple times a week!

Oh, and I noticed that one of the brothers was in Cloverfield, along with another actor from a cancelled show, Marmaduke (TJ Miller) from Carpoolers (also a hilarious show).

Battlestar Galactica.

The original was cheesy...bad acting...did not even make it 2 seasons...yet continued to have a "cult" following.

Then 4 years ago we were given the remade/retold BSG which is regarded by most people as one of the best TV shows to come along in a long time.

The remake of Knight Rider did not have to be as cheesy as it was.

True. In this version the plot could have been: KITT is created by man, rebels, and now has a plan to bring back "My Mother the Car" if Jerry Van Dyke is available.

True. In this version the plot could have been: KITT is created by man, rebels, and now has a plan to bring back "My Mother the Car" if Jerry Van Dyke is available.

They should have got Robin Williams to be the voice for KITT.

They should have got Robin Williams to be the voice for KITT.

Or maybe Jerry Sienfeld. Then Kitt could say things like, "People.....Are always shooting at me, What.....Is....Up....With.....That?"

James Earl Jones should play KITT...Either him or Jackie Mason, I'm just not sure.:p

James Earl Jones should play KITT...Either him or Jackie Mason, I'm just not sure.:p

"Mike...I am your father"

"Noooooooooooooooooooooooooo"

Brotherhood huh? Ive never heard of it. But then again I dont get showtime. I'll google it in a minute. Where are you in Charlotte? I live in Syracuse now, but my wife and I just moved from Charlotte last year.

'Brotherhood' has done 2 seasons now of about 12 eps each, and most every one is just a little gem. Reminds me a lot of 'The Sopranos'. At least the first season, if not the second, is out on DVD; it's well worth it.

I live in Pineville, actually. Don't see too many people moving from Charlotte up to Syracuse and all that snow and ice. :eek: But if the current weather trend continues, in about 30 years Syracuse will have Charlotte's climate, so if you can just hold out.... :p

I would have used the Hoff for the voice of the new KiTT. =P

I would have used Gilbert Gottfried for the voice of K.I.T.T. :rolleyes:

I would have used Gilbert Gottfried for the voice of K.I.T.T. :rolleyes:


Bah we are nuts...forget all these guy voices....the new K.I.T.T should have had a sexy female voice. Personally, someone a older like Jane Semour(sp) would have been just right.

Has this show been canceled? It's been on my DVR and I haven't watched it yet, so I didn't want to waste my time. The guide is not showing another airing in the next week.

Eddie Deezen. Perfection:
http://www.imdb.com/media/rm2906234112/nm0214430

Has this show been canceled? It's been on my DVR and I haven't watched it yet, so I didn't want to waste my time. The guide is not showing another airing in the next week.

Actually its not really a show yet...all that was aired was a "move of the week".

but it will probably turn into a series.

Has this show been canceled? It's been on my DVR and I haven't watched it yet, so I didn't want to waste my time. The guide is not showing another airing in the next week.

The ratings for the movie was fantastic (for some reason). So NBC will most likely make it into a series. They stated from the beginning that if the movie did good they had plans to make it into a series.

Thanks, I had that suspicion, but didn't know for sure. Guess I'll give it a watch.

The ratings for the movie was fantastic (for some reason). So NBC will most likely make it into a series. They stated from the beginning that if the movie did good they had plans to make it into a series.


Well given NBC recent history and its ranking...They probably have significantly lower ratings "standards" than in the past.

Or maybe Jerry Sienfeld. Then Kitt could say things like, "People.....Are always shooting at me, What.....Is....Up....With.....That?"


We could rename KITT as Will. Then everyone would always be firing at Will.

'Brotherhood' has done 2 seasons now of about 12 eps each, and most every one is just a little gem. Reminds me a lot of 'The Sopranos'. At least the first season, if not the second, is out on DVD; it's well worth it.

I live in Pineville, actually. Don't see too many people moving from Charlotte up to Syracuse and all that snow and ice. :eek: But if the current weather trend continues, in about 30 years Syracuse will have Charlotte's climate, so if you can just hold out.... :p

Yeah most people say I went in the wrong direction. I have family up here, and had an opportunity to come work for a great company, so I knew what I was in for (18" of snow by tomorrow, since this afternoon). I actually used to live over in the Charlotte/Mint Hill area. What line of work are you in?

I did a little research on "Brotherhood" it looks good. I think I will be picking up the 1st two seasons on dvd.

If they were smart... they would have KITT do a voice-imprint on the driver of the car when he first takes over... it could be explained somehow, and unless they re-cast the driver they always have the voice-actor on the payroll. IF the driver leaves the show, then they recast and have the built-in explanation of why KITT then sounds different.

Well, great. The show got picked up. Series premiere sept 24th.

Any details out yet?

Lets hope it gets a better budget and much improved production value.

Well, probably the biggest development, (not that this is new, it was announced back at the beginning of April when NBC announced their fall schedule) is that "Las Vegas" & "The Fast & the Furious" creator Gary Scott Thompson has been hired as showrunner. He has stated that he didn't even like the movie, and he would dump the elements he didn't care for, so I'm willing to give the series version a second chance, and see if he is more in tune with what the fans want to see.

Well, probably the biggest development, (not that this is new, it was announced back at the beginning of April when NBC announced their fall schedule) is that "Las Vegas" & "The Fast & the Furious" creator Gary Scott Thompson has been hired as showrunner. He has stated that he didn't even like the movie, and he would dump the elements he didn't care for, so I'm willing to give the series version a second chance, and see if he is more in tune with what the fans want to see.

Knight Rider should be like the 1980's show-- one man fighting crime. I hope they don't ruin the show.

One man and a car.

Lets hope it gets a better budget and much improved production value.
Watch what you ask for.... if it improves too much- it's on the radar and the programming geniuses at NBC will be forced to cancel it.

One man and a car.
a GM car.

Ah, good. My Saab Aero would make a good KITT, and is GM. Beats a Mustang, right?

You GM-heads are a hoot.

Well, great. The show got picked up. Series premiere sept 24th.

that's a WED, thats perfect..

Knight rider on WED,
Burn NOtice on Thurs
and Monk on Friday!!


thanks NBC universal!!! :D

looks like Burn Notice finished up before it started. I had it set to record on my DVR but after watching the premiere episode online, I think im going to pass.

I have the Knight Rider pilot saved on my computer. As a long time Knight Rider fan is it worth watching or should I just skip it and start watching the series Wednesday night? I heard the pilot movie was not very good but if I don't watch the pilot is it going to make the season premiere confusing? Without giving away any spoilers please. :)

It seems to me that there were some things in the pilot movie that setup things to come. I would go ahead and watch it just for that alone. Plus there are some little Easter Eggs in there too. (Watch the scenes in the garage closely)

I have the Knight Rider pilot saved on my computer. As a long time Knight Rider fan is it worth watching or should I just skip it and start watching the series Wednesday night? I heard the pilot movie was not very good but if I don't watch the pilot is it going to make the season premiere confusing? Without giving away any spoilers please. :)

I'm on the fence with watching the pilot as well. Every time I think I might check it out, I see new promos of KITT and it's hideous plastic looking body kit (ha ha) and it reminds me a 14 year old's interpretation of a "cool" looking car.

I'm on the fence with watching the pilot as well. Every time I think I might check it out, I see new promos of KITT and it's hideous plastic looking body kit (ha ha) and it reminds me a 14 year old's interpretation of a "cool" looking car.

The car in the pilot doesn't look anywhere near as hideous as the car in the recent promos. I thought the pilot was ok, and am planning on watching the new season - unless it actually turns out like the promos are making it look like.

The car in the pilot doesn't look anywhere near as hideous as the car in the recent promos. I thought the pilot was ok, and am planning on watching the new season - unless it actually turns out like the promos are making it look like.No kidding. If the car gets most of its power from solar (IIRC), what the heck does it need those hideous hood scoops for? Seems to me they just add unnecessary drag. Like the pilot's car better.

New model year for Ford? :p

New model year for Ford? :pGood one.

The pilot is available on iTunes for free right now. And unfortunately I watched it. I may give the show another episode or two simply because it's Knight Rider, but I thought the pilot was even worse than the movie they made.

I'm on the fence with watching the pilot as well. Every time I think I might check it out, I see new promos of KITT and it's hideous plastic looking body kit (ha ha) and it reminds me a 14 year old's interpretation of a "cool" looking car.

You mean, just like Kitt in the original series?

You don't think this show is aimed at 50 year old intellectuals, do you?

You mean, just like Kitt in the original series?

You don't think this show is aimed at 50 year old intellectuals, do you?

You don't need to be 50 years old or an intellectual, to recognize a hokey looking prop design. If they want to aim for just for 14 year olds they need to strip out the adult content, sell it to Disney and put it on at the same time as Power Rangers.

The original KITT body was designed by Pontiac and left that way for the most part. If the producers had welded wings to the door panels and fitted a giant rocket on the back, you might have something similar to the version we have now.

Airwolf, Blue Thunder, Street Hawk, even the Autocar still look better than the 2008 KITT after all this time. Even if they lack LCD panels on the inside and super cool looking HUDs. Even as a kid I knew that Highwayman's truck was a stupid looking prop design. KITT 2008 is just the same.

absolute drivel. one of the worst things i have ever seen on tv. i don't think they could have been more cliche in the dialog, story, effects, acting, faux-science - it has it all.

absolute drivel. one of the worst things i have ever seen on tv. i don't think they could have been more cliche in the dialog, story, effects, acting, faux-science - it has it all.

If you were expecting to see LOST you were looking at the wrong place before it even started. I thought the story was pretty decent. Much more story then the orginal that was different week to week.

If you were expecting to see LOST you were looking at the wrong place before it even started.

Why do people insist on countering criticism by comparing expectations to something that isn't even in the same ballpark. It's a pitifully weak excuse.

It's like saying Die Hard is no Schindler's List. You compare Die Hard to other action thrillers you don't compare it to historical drama.

Compare Knight Rider to pretty much any other light action adventure show like Chuck, Burn Notice or Jake 2.0 and it fails pitifully in every department. It doesn't even stand up against The Middle Man which has some terrible props and effects but easily beats out Knight Rider with charisma, fun and witty dialog.

Deanna Russo looks stunningly hot!
Something looked wierd about her in the tv movie a few months back.

My local bumped the bitrate up to 17.2 from the usual 15.2mbps!!!!
Lets hope they keep it turned up, yet there was still blocking.
NBC needs to learn hw to proof @15-17 instead of presumably uncompressed, and design scenes accordingly.

Oh my goodness. I think the impossible just happened. I actually liked the show tonight.:eek:

It was actually leaps and bounds better than that crap movie they showed a few months back. The cannot be the same creative and production team, can it?:confused:

I literally watched the opening act (about 10 minutes) and I then promptly deleted the recording and deleted the season pass...

What a waste of air-time...BRING BACK JOURNEYMAN!

I've watched 10 minutes and I could swear they are making fun of themselves.
This show is really bad, I had low expectations. Nice excuse to strip naked.

KITT's voice just doesn't work for me.

The chick is incredibly hot.

You don't need to be 50 years old or an intellectual, to recognize a hokey looking prop design. If they want to aim for just for 14 year olds they need to strip out the adult content, sell it to Disney and put it on at the same time as Power Rangers.


Hmm. It looks to me like 2 Mustangs and a dull F150. Other than the KITT standard panning red light up front, it looks like your average overdone American sports car to me. The shape shifting is bad, I grant you. But the cars are right off the shelf. And the fact that it can now morph to a truck is asinine.

But the script and plot premises....now that's some horrible stuff. Maybe it's aimed at 10 year olds, plus sex. Does not look like a winner.

I actually liked it. I thought it was much better than the mini series.

Adam

This was a hell of a lot fun much better than the movie. Any excuse to get that girl undressed is fine by me :)

This show was so horrible I promptly deleted the Series Link I setup. YUCK!

Wow, this was freaking horrible. I can't believe how much I hated it. It so corny and bad acting, everything was just bad. I was sooo looking forward to this, it could of been so great.

The only thing good was the female lead. WOW! She is stunningly beautiful.

I don't understand why all of the posts about deleting season passes or series recordings. Didn't you watch the pilot?

I thought the pilot was awful. However, pilots are merely proof of concept and sometimes the actual show is an improvement over it.

Sometimes not.

Case in point.

I watched the show and it was an improvement over the movie. The problem with this show is the same as the old one. The car is cooler than the guy. It looks they are trying to do the same thing they did with Bionic Woman did by throwing in a "conspiracy" to spice up the guy. A show like this should be kept simple and stick with what makes it cool.

It seemed like they were trying to do a 90 minute show in an hour. They needed to simplify the plot, or stretch it out over two eps.

The producers probably figured they had a really weak concept, so they ramped up the cheese factor to compensate. If they have Deanna Russo strip down to her underwear every week, they just might have a show.

This was a hell of a lot fun much better than the movie. Any excuse to get that girl undressed is fine by me :)

wow, I missed the best part of the show!

I saw about 15 mins of it and thought it was embarrassingly bad (I did not see the movie). Kitt's voice is all wrong. The original Kitt had a distinctive voice. The new one just sounds like some guy. Th car itself is way overdone. Transformer? And it runs on solar? Forget fighting petty crimes. They can solve the energy problem with their solar tech and save the freaking planet now! The new Michael doesn't hold a candle to Hasselhoff charisma wise (yes I actually typed that). Yikes.

NBC pls cancel this turkey and put Deanna Russo on a better show, stat! Heck give her her own show.

idonthaveenoughthumbstoturndownandstillhitthespacebar.
imgoingtohavetoborrowalocalhomelesspersonsthumbs.

Gads, bring back The Bionic Woman. Thats how bad KR was IMO, even BW was better.
WIth the ratings do not expect Knightrider to last past 1/2 a season if that.

What a waste of air-time...BRING BACK JOURNEYMAN!
seriously! Journeyman was getting really good. you wonder how cr@p like this Knight Rider remake ever gets put on the air in the first place. any TV exec should have spent 3 minutes watching that awful pilot (or the movie for that matter) and said "whoa, whoa, whoa...stop production...i've seen enough".

i literally caught 3 minutes in the middle and told my wife that it had the look/feel of a bad Power Rangers episode.

absolute drivel. one of the worst things i have ever seen on tv. i don't think they could have been more cliche in the dialog, story, effects, acting, faux-science - it has it all.

It's already been said, but it bears repeating: NBC is the network that brought us Bionic Woman.

Oddly, this new Knight Rider, what little I could stomach, looks a lot worse than BW. BW flirted with being a decent show. KR isn't even bothering.

Small q: is the younger guy Billy from BSG?

It's already been said, but it bears repeating: NBC is the network that brought us Bionic Woman.

Oddly, this new Knight Rider, what little I could stomach, looks a lot worse than BW. BW flirted with being a decent show. KR isn't even bothering.

Small q: is the younger guy Billy from BSG?

Yeah that guy is Billy from BSG.

This show lost me on the transforming into a pick up truck, the two of them jumping into the back and then KITT transforming into the Mustang and they appear in the front seat. I mean I'm all for suspending disbelief but that was a little much.

I'll give it a few episodes though out of the fondness I had for the original when I was a kid.

But if they ever start transforming KITT into what ever vehicle they happen to need, like the bad guys are getting away on a boat and KITT just transforms into a boat, I'll change the channel and never look back.

But if they ever start transforming KITT into what ever vehicle they happen to need, like the bad guys are getting away on a boat and KITT just transforms into a boat, I'll change the channel and never look back.

Ford don't make boats so I think you're safe for now.

But wait for it to change into a Ford Flex or Fusion to "blend in" with the moms at a soccer game. ;)

Have to agree with most of what's been said. I made it through about 1/2 the episode and then turned it off. Poor production values (some of the scenes of Tracer running through the hallways looked like it could have been filmed with my home video recorder). Thought the transforming all over the place was pretty silly as well as the "science" and all the cliche's. May watch one or two more episodes, for nostalgia sake, but not expecting much.

I've watched 10 minutes and I could swear they are making fun of themselves.
This show is really bad, I had low expectations. Nice excuse to strip naked.

KITT's voice just doesn't work for me.

The chick is incredibly hot.

Sad I missed this for the one constant redeeming factor - the hot girl!

As to the KITT voice....why the switch (according to the press, not 1st hand witness) to Val Kilmer from Will Arnet? Wasn't it Arnet in the TV movie? "Star power", perhpas? Seems a silly reason when you never see the actual owner of the voice.

Sad I missed this for the one constant redeeming factor - the hot girl!

As to the KITT voice....why the switch (according to the press, not 1st hand witness) to Val Kilmer from Will Arnet? Wasn't it Arnet in the TV movie? "Star power", perhpas? Seems a silly reason when you never see the actual owner of the voice.

Kilmer did do the voice in the movie. Arnet had recorded it, and promos had aired with his voice, but then somebody realized that Will Arnet was the voice of one of GM's lines (GMC maybe?) and with Knight Rider really being nothing but a long Ford commercial, he had to pull out, and was replaced by Val Kilmer, literally like two weeks before the movie aired. My question then, and I still haven't heard a real answer, is why did it take folks up to the last minutes to recognize this potential conflict of interest?

I literally watched the opening act (about 10 minutes) and I then promptly deleted the recording and deleted the season pass...

What a waste of air-time...BRING BACK JOURNEYMAN!
I second this. While my wife forced me to watch the rest of the show, I had heard quite enough by the 10 or 15 minute mark to make me break out my laptop and start doing actual work. I will plead with her not to have to watch it again, but we do both sorely miss Journeyman.

yeah Knight Rider is iffy for me. I'm not sure what to make of it. Seems like they're trying to hard for this to be a hit. It just looks too fake and the acting sucked. I'll give it another episode or two.

yeah Knight Rider is iffy for me. I'm not sure what to make of it. Seems like they're trying to hard for this to be a hit. It just looks too fake and the acting sucked. I'll give it another episode or two.

Seriously... did they not learn anything from Bionic Woman?

I watched the original KR as a kid, I quit when KITT started transformations.
The storylines were repetitive (A-Team anyone), the writing was not very good, and you never really believed that little rocket in back could get KITT off the ground and no one ever died (GI Joe). But somehow it all seemed possible if you gave them a little leeway.

This is an embarrassment to the original show.

Even RK deserves a better remake than this.

One thing that made the original KR special was the car. The new Firebird/Trans Am had JUST come out, the show was advertised before you could get one. For it's day the new Firebird was a pretty neat looking car. Of course, now it's a shining example of the crap GM would create during the 80's. By '90 or so we made fun of people with one. Real hick car.

But if they ever start transforming KITT into what ever vehicle they happen to need, like the bad guys are getting away on a boat and KITT just transforms into a boat, I'll change the channel and never look back.
Too late - that was done in the Knight Rider 2000 movie - which was set in Canada.

At any rate, series link deleted after one epsiode. I can't sit through anymore episodes to find out if it gets any better.

It just sucks that now the Knight Rider franchise was tainted by this. KITT was the "man" back in the day.

Whoever thought this was going to be good in the first place was being too optimistic. Just from the commercials I almost vomitted. I could tell right off the bat that this was going to be a show with all flash (model looking actors) and no substance.

Whoever thought this was going to be good in the first place was being too optimistic. Just from the commercials I almost vomitted. I could tell right off the bat that this was going to be a show with all flash (model looking actors) and no substance.
I think, for me, it was thinking it might not be as bad as I thought.

Instead, it was far worse.

I think, for me, it was thinking it might not be as bad as I thought.

Instead, it was far worse.

Yeah, just from the commercials I could tell it was going to be an ongoing car commercial and pretty people showing their face on camera. What a waste.

Whoever thought this was going to be good in the first place was being too optimistic. Just from the commercials I almost vomitted. I could tell right off the bat that this was going to be a show with all flash (model looking actors) and no substance.

I remember when the first stills of the Nolan Batmobile leaked out I thought it looked like a fat lawnmower. When I saw it moving on screen I did a complete 180. It looks menacing and damn cool.

Same thing for KR. The new new KITT looked horrific in the promo stills. I thought maybe it might look better on screen ...

nope. It looks worse.

I like the way the engineers added all the amazing gadgets and poitnless lights to the inside and even went as far as including the magic orb of Val Kilmer and a dashboard surgery, but didn't bother to swap out the base model CD player and plastic buttons on the center console. :rolleyes:

Any excuse to get that girl undressed is fine by me :)

Whenever my car is on fire and burning out of control as I'm racing 200 miles an hour down a city street, my first reaction is "I better nude up and take a nap". What an awful show.

I thought the tv movie showed some promise but the first episode was just so predictable and boring that I will only give it one more episode before I stop watching.

Grew up watching the original. I really liked the first episode. I guess the haters can all go back to watching PBS.

Grew up watching the original. I really liked the first episode. I guess the haters can all go back to watching PBS.

or just any of the many many other better written, better produced, better acted shows on television.

Like Power Rangers.

Grew up watching the original. I really liked the first episode. I guess the haters can all go back to watching PBS.

:confused: You must love product placement and self image I see.

I lasted exactly 13 minutes into the premiere, when they were 'forced' to take off their clothes because it was getting too hot in the car. Series recording got deleted as well.

Just. Awful.

:confused: You must love product placement and self image I see.Sorry, that's not 'product placement' on PBS that's 'underwriting'.:p

And I'm waiting for the next episode when KITT turns himself into Optimus Prime.

The most amazing thing about this pile of peacock poop is that there is 12 pages in this thread so far.

Why do people insist on countering criticism by comparing expectations to something that isn't even in the same ballpark. It's a pitifully weak excuse.

It's like saying Die Hard is no Schindler's List. You compare Die Hard to other action thrillers you don't compare it to historical drama.

Compare Knight Rider to pretty much any other light action adventure show like Chuck, Burn Notice or Jake 2.0 and it fails pitifully in every department. It doesn't even stand up against The Middle Man which has some terrible props and effects but easily beats out Knight Rider with charisma, fun and witty dialog.

Well, along those lines:

It's no A-Team.

The most amazing thing about this pile of peacock poop is that there is 12 pages in this thread so far.

Everyone likes to slow down and take a close look at a car wreck.

Glad I wasn't alone - watched hopeful until he did a turbo-boost from a standing stop. The original may have been cheesy but at least they jumped cars for real. Then, when I saw the blue "street-mod" lights under the car, I knew this wasn't my show. Deleted the series recorder on the spot. Darn but oh relief - I was right.

As the OP of this thread I don't know what to think. This is certainly nothing like the show I grew up watching. I still find myself glued to the tv even if deep down so far I have not been impressed. The jokes are not funny. The action is too CG/unrealistic. Even if this show stayed exactly the same but had Hasselhoff and William Daniels as K.I.T.T. I think it would be watchable, if only for nostalgic value. Anyone else find it ironic that this show comes on right before America's Got Talent featuring the Hoff himself?

Seems this thread is filled with aging men with nostaligic memories of the KR of old, who refuse to give this show a chance because it just doesn't compare to the original KR with the Hoff.

;)

I like the way the engineers added all the amazing gadgets and poitnless lights to the inside and even went as far as including the magic orb of Val Kilmer and a dashboard surgery, but didn't bother to swap out the base model CD player and plastic buttons on the center console. :rolleyes:

You noticed that too?

I just got around to watching the premiere yesterday; it was ok, but not great. I'll probably see if it gets any better before I write this one off.

deanna russo

I like the way the engineers added all the amazing gadgets and poitnless lights to the inside and even went as far as including the magic orb of Val Kilmer and a dashboard surgery, but didn't bother to swap out the base model CD player and plastic buttons on the center console. :rolleyes:
Don't forget the prominent 12V DC power outlet.

Lame show. My wife and I couldn't help but laugh at some of the "serious" moments. There's suspension of disbelief and then there's this pile of dung. Season Pass canceled.

Seems this thread is filled with aging men with nostaligic memories of the KR of old, who refuse to give this show a chance because it just doesn't compare to the original KR with the Hoff.

;)

Either that, or people who know the difference between quality productions and schlock? :D

Seems this thread is filled with aging men with nostaligic memories of the KR of old, who refuse to give this show a chance because it just doesn't compare to the original KR with the Hoff.

;)

No its because this show is total crap. If it were any other show and it had this bad of writing I would delete a series link as well. :D

Seems this thread is filled with aging men with nostaligic memories of the KR of old, who refuse to give this show a chance because it just doesn't compare to the original KR with the Hoff.

;)

I gave it a chance by actually watching the first episode, despite the fact the car looks like something that other drivers point and laugh at every day when kids roll by with the cheap subwoofer rattling the plastic.

There's cheap and fun and cheap and lazy.

The Middleman is the former. KR 2008 is the latter.

Sorry, that's not 'product placement' on PBS that's 'underwriting'.:p

And I'm waiting for the next episode when KITT turns himself into Optimus Prime.

Felix The Cat has a new briefcase these days.

I wish they would have kept the Bionic Woman instead of bringing Knight Rider out.
I think it will be gone before the holidays.

I wish they would have kept the Bionic Woman instead of bringing Knight Rider out.
I think it will be gone before the holidays.


Does Halloween count as a holiday?:D

Well, along those lines:

It's no A-Team.


The A-Team movie will be out next year.

June 12, 2009 is the scheduled release date.

The A-Team movie will be out next year.

June 12, 2009 is the scheduled release date.

Something tells me this will be the equivalent of the Miami Vice movie, not much relation to the original and only mediocre as a stand alone movie.

The A-Team movie will be out next year.

June 12, 2009 is the scheduled release date.

I pity the fool that wastes even a moment of their lives actually watching it...

I pity the fool that wastes even a moment of their lives actually watching it...You read my mind!:D

You read my mind!:D
I love it when a plan comes together.... ;)

I pity the fool that wastes even a moment of their lives actually watching it...

Pah, that's what people said about Starsky and Hutch and look how that turned out.

No, on second thoughts don't.

OK I love Knight Rider and I really wish it succeeds but that was really bad.

Oh man was ep 2 bad. It was even worse than the first. Not even the scantily dressed babes could save it from deletion. I couldn't even make it halfway through that episode. Simply awful does not begin to describe it.

Never again...never again...

This Wednesday episode might as well have been The Fast and the Furious Tokyo Drift. Same guy from that movie having Michael racing in this episode.

As a Mustang fan, I love the car in standard mode. The transforming attack mode or even into a truck? Completely stupid.

Deanna Russo. Wow. Compared to the plastic at the Russian guy's party I prefer her natural beauty. The eyes. Mmm mmm.

CG effects are awful.

Overall give me a well written TV show (which this is not), not a commercial.

Wow... I loved how the car just turns that EMP device, which required two men to carry, into dust.

I tried to give this show a second chance, but couldn't do it. Not without hurting myself anyway.

Tried one more time. This has to be the worse show I have seen on TV in a LONG time. Even shows like Hercules that had horrible effects was fun to watch at times because of the campy nature. This however is just trying to be a real show and it is soooo not a real show. Please cancel this crap.

Yeah i agree with all of you...this one is bad. I do think, however, it was better than the first. The CGI effect blow...I don't know how this show will make it any longer. NBC blew it on this one.

I don't know what you guys are complaining about, I think this show is hilarious. :)

I don't know what you guys are complaining about, I think this show is hilarious. :)

It's on par with the original series.

It's on par with the original series.

I beg to differ. Mediocre practical effects always beat bad CGI effects.

Not to mention, you can never replace The Hoff.

I beg to differ. Mediocre practical effects always beat bad CGI effects.

Not to mention, you can never replace The Hoff.


Those are good CGI effects for TV.

The CGI effect blow...

The effects for the pilot and first episode were done by the same company that does the effects for Heroes, Stargate Digital. Then the producers went cheap and and decided to send the work to some company in Africa. Trying the save money by doing work overseas never works in weekly episodic television. The turnaround is too fast, and you are almost guaranteed to get crap.

KR is doing pretty good in ratings, don't expect it to leave anytime soon. I enjoyed this episode more than the first one. Nothing magnificent, but an hour of mindless fast & furious type fun.

KR is doing pretty good in ratings, don't expect it to leave anytime soon. I enjoyed this episode more than the first one. Nothing magnificent, but an hour of mindless fast & furious type fun.

That's because it's not on Monday nights.

Did anyone else notice this one commercial? This one caught me FFing because it included the KR set & KIT. KIT was advertising for the show, "America's Got Talent." He mentioned that he is very close to one of the judges.
Made me snicker.

I guess people really did jump ship on this show! LOL

And be glad you did. Last night, KITT was a SUBMARINE. Yes, that's right, KITT was blown into the ocean and there was Mike, sitting in the car completely underwater and streaming along nicely. Absolutely ridiculous.

I guess people really did jump ship on this show! LOL

And be glad you did. Last night, KITT was a SUBMARINE. Yes, that's right, KITT was blown into the ocean and there was Mike, sitting in the car completely underwater and streaming along nicely. Absolutely ridiculous.


As if anything else the car does isn't ridiculous.
But it's a TV show it's not reality.

Two words: Smith Cho

Two words: Smith Cho

Yeah, she's the only reason I Tivo'd this week's episode. I had written off the series, but when I saw was she was going to be featured in a beach themed episode, I figured I could at least enjoy it with the sound off.

Two words: Smith Cho



Zoe is hot!!!

This episode was pretty bad.. (bad enough that I didn't care if I pressed the 30sec skip button too many times to avoid commercials) but it probably doesn't help that I can't stand the asian girl. I want her to be the first one that gets killed off.

Smith Cho does have the rockin body. Face...eh attractive but something's not to my liking. The voice though. When she said "Burn rubber KITT!" oh man those were some poorly spoken words. OTOH, when she's sounding frisky...;)

Agreed about the submarine. Ridiculous. But I'll keep watching because of Deanna Russo and the superfluous background eye candy, like in last night's episode. I doubt that any of this production will even be remotely considered for an Emmy (as if those really count for something). ;)

First episode was a lot of fun but subsequent episodes meh...

NBC executives have ordered up four more episodes of the first-season U.S. TV series "Knight Rider," The Hollywood Reporter says.

http://www.upi.com/Entertainment_News/2008/10/11/Knight_Rider_getting_additional_episodes/UPI-37831223745162/

http://www.upi.com/Entertainment_News/2008/10/11/Knight_Rider_getting_additional_episodes/UPI-37831223745162/Why does this not surprise me?:rolleyes: At least it's not a full season.

Are the NBC executives high (http://www.deadlinehollywooddaily.com/major-nbc-shakeup-ahead-network-wants-to-ax-teri-weinberg-hopes-ben-silverman-quits/)? Oh yeah ... nevermind.

I guess people really did jump ship on this show! LOL

And be glad you did. Last night, KITT was a SUBMARINE. Yes, that's right, KITT was blown into the ocean and there was Mike, sitting in the car completely underwater and streaming along nicely. Absolutely ridiculous.

LOL. I kinda knew that KITT would turn into a marine vehicle sooner or later, but this is truly ridiculous.

LOL, my eyes almost rolled out of my head when I saw that.:D

I thought the second episode captured the essence of the original "Knight Rider" I remembered and enjoyed growing up. It definitely has a "fast/furious" and "transformers" thing going on, but I don't see that as a bad thing.

I think some of you have just grown up too much for this show. Knight Rider has always been over the top ridiculous KITT has always done the impossible. The CG seems adequate. The only thing that I find somewhat lacking KITT's personality. The oiriginal KITT seemed to be more of a character. Overall I like this show more than I thought I would. Justin Bruening as Michael is growing on me.

My DVR didn't record last night's show. I caught it about half way through. It seemed like a new ep to me. Is this one I missed or did my cable company code it wrong somehow?

My DVR didn't record last night's show. I caught it about half way through. It seemed like a new ep to me. Is this one I missed or did my cable company code it wrong somehow?

For some reason all the online tv guides that I saw had it listed as a repeat.

Regarding Wednesday night's episode...I thought it was better than the previous three. I'd like to say that I would have felt that way regardless, but since my son wrote the episode, I can't be sure. It seemed to me that the acting, story and special effects were more compelling; it seemed like a competently done TV show, which you really couldn't say about some of the earlier episodes.

Curious to see what others thought.

Regarding Wednesday night's episode...I thought it was better than the previous three. I'd like to say that I would have felt that way regardless, but since my son wrote the episode, I can't be sure. It seemed to me that the acting, story and special effects were more compelling; it seemed like a competently done TV show, which you really couldn't say about some of the earlier episodes.

Curious to see what others thought.

Tell David to keep up the good work! I though it was excellent!

I just finally got around to watching this week's episode online (Thank you NBC/HULU), since I was out of town and the DVR didn't record it.

This is the best episode so far. It really brought back some of the thrill of the original series, with less of the CGI for the sake of CGI that the first 3 episodes did.

The 80's version of K.I.T.T. had a grapiling hook, so nothing new there. The theme-park-ride element of pursuaiding the bad guy to talk while in the KITT-cave was hilarious. The race against time added an edge-of-your-seat element to the commercial breaks.

I hope the other writers pick up the cues on this one and we get more of this level of product. I intentionally don't drop shows from my schedule until a few weeks in, knowing different writers will bring different styles to the show, and once it hits its stride, the differences will smooth out.

I was looking over my previous post; I think I was a little harsh on the earlier episodes. To say they weren't 'competent' was not fair. As the actors have gotten more comfortable with their characters, I think the acting has naturally improved. This would be true of other aspects of the production, as well.

I know that there have been last minute re-writes and re-shoots because of differences of opinion between producers and the studio/network regarding the tone of the show. This would contribute to some of the continuity problems.
All in all, I think the important thing is that the show is improving and coming into it's own.

Wow, I think I could use a sundial to measure how far off the audio is this week. NBC Rocks!!!

Wow, I think I could use a sundial to measure how far off the audio is this week. NBC Rocks!!!

not a problem in Cleveland watching WKYC via DirecTV.

not a problem in Cleveland watching WKYC via DirecTV.

I didn't notice anything on WRC on Fios.

Why does this not surprise me?:rolleyes: At least it's not a full season.

NBC Orders Full Season of Knight Rider
NBC was pleased with the extra four scripts they ordered because they’ve gone ahead and picked up "Knight Rider" for a full season. The network has ordered another nine episodes of the Wednesday-night drama, bringing its season to a full 22 episodes. It’s the first freshman fall NBC series to be ordered to a full season, joining CBS’s "The Mentalist", Fox’s "Fringe" and the CW’s "90210"

This weeks episode was really bad.. highly unbelievable and cheesy.

paraphrasing...

"You have a 30% chance of survival jumping off the cliff" <insert bad joke> "Don't be a wuss Mike, just jump"

NBC Orders Full Season of Knight Rider
NBC was pleased with the extra four scripts they ordered because they’ve gone ahead and picked up "Knight Rider" for a full season. The network has ordered another nine episodes of the Wednesday-night drama, bringing its season to a full 22 episodes. It’s the first freshman fall NBC series to be ordered to a full season, joining CBS’s "The Mentalist", Fox’s "Fringe" and the CW’s "90210"Ah it never fails to amaze. The crap rises to the top while the cream will probably be cancelled. I suspect NBC will probably cancel Curusoe, which is a solid show, with some good action and good stars (including Sam Neil), for more of this crap.

Crusoe is a limited run mini-series.

Crusoe is a limited run mini-series.And there you have it.

Knight Rider is fun, nothing wrong with it. Probably last 3-4 seasons like the last one.

Knight Rider is fun, nothing wrong with it.Oh, I think many people here would disagree.

Well its on for a full season!


Enjoy!

I wish they would have kept the Bionic Woman instead of bringing Knight Rider out.


I completely agree. I like the eye candy on KR but BW had a better storyline. Even though many people hated BW, me and my friends really loved BW and were sad to see it go.

NBC Orders Full Season of Knight Rider
NBC was pleased with the extra four scripts they ordered because they’ve gone ahead and picked up "Knight Rider" for a full season...

...and they canceled Journeyman...idiots. honestly, i thought Bionic Woman was even much better than the new Knight Rider.

I think i'm getting used to the show now. the "new" style of cheesiness

Bad screwup, at least at my local level, unless it was national, last night's show was a bust at the end as NBC's center (dialogue) channel cut out for the last 15 or so minutes of the show, making me wish I had the analogue version of it recorded.

Why does this audio problem persist with this god-awful network?

-Reading lips just doesn't do it for me, NBC!:mad:

Bad screwup, at least at my local level, unless it was national, last night's show was a bust at the end as NBC's center (dialogue) channel cut out for the last 15 or so minutes of the show, making me wish I had the analogue version of it recorded.

Why does this audio problem persist with this god-awful network?

-Reading lips just doesn't do it for me, NBC!:mad:

I didn't notice anything on FiOS again this week.

Bad screwup, at least at my local level, unless it was national, last night's show was a bust at the end as NBC's center (dialogue) channel cut out for the last 15 or so minutes of the show, making me wish I had the analogue version of it recorded.

Why does this audio problem persist with this god-awful network?

-Reading lips just doesn't do it for me, NBC!:mad:

Try turning on closed captioning.

and they canceled Journeyman...:(

I think i'm getting used to the show now. the "new" style of cheesiness

Must be one of those unexplained phenomenas....as much as I think the new KR i one of the cheesiest shows ever...I find myself watching it every week...and actually..albeit for only an hour forgetting all the real life crap going on everywhere.

Nice shoutout to Torchwood in last night's ep.

NBC's remake of Knight Rider appears to be running on fumes, or at least it was Wednesday night. The network re-launched Law & Order Nov. 5 in a move to go with all crime dramas on Wednesday nights, a lineup that leads off with Rider at 8 p.m..

NBC has already picked up the back end of Rider (perhaps that should be "jacked up," since it is a car), which it did last month when the show was averaging a 2.4 rating/7 share in the 18-49 demo.

Wednesday night, the show only averaged a 1.6/4 at 8-9 for last place, behind a strong performance from The CW's Next Top Model.

For the night, NBC averaged a 1.9/5 for its "crime time" in primetime effort.



http://www.broadcastingcable.com/article/CA6612230.html

Yeah that guy is Billy from BSG.



So his name is Billy in KR as well? Oy!

'Knight Rider' to halt production early (http://www.thrfeed.com/2008/12/knight-rider-pr.html)

Thank god. The world makes sense again!

Good, now bring back MOWE!

This thread hasn't been updated in while. Episode 9 is being shown on New Years eve and will be the last episode of the "old format". Episode 10 and 11 will be a 2 part and will kill off some of the characters so it will only be Mike, Sarah, Zoe, and Billy. It will be more like the original Knight Rider with Mike and K.I.T.T. on the road fighting local crimes. K.A.R.R. will also be involved and from what has been shown it looks pretty epic. Cast has been saying the "reboot" episodes and the earlier episodes are so different it's like two different shows. That is good news indeed. More can be found on Knight Rider Online.

http://knightrideronline.com/

I wish they would bring back the Bionic Woman instead. I liked that one much better.

A transforming robot that sounds exactly like Optimus Prime. How cute.

Clearly this show is written by ten-year-olds.:D

A transforming robot that sounds exactly like Optimus Prime. How cute.

Actually, as a fan of the original Knight Rider (Gee, I wonder why, maybe because I was 11 at the time), the voice reminded me of the version of K.A.R.R. that was in a couple of episodes.

I had to look, and Peter Cullen, is indeed the voice of Optimus Prime (not only in the movies, but in the animated series previously), and when scrolling far enough down, he was also the voice of K.A.R.R. in one episode of original series (a second K.A.R.R. episode had Paul Frees as the voice).

Peter Cullen's Bio on IMDB (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0191520/)

Episode Guide: Knight Rider: Trust Doesn't Rust (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0620882/)

Probably a shark jumping episode (40 minutes of setup for a 3 minute battle), but it definitely looks like they "refreshed" the direction of the show from a gov't run secret agency to a private one that offers civilian assistance - ala the original series.

Guilty pleasure, so I'm gonna keep checking in. The lead women alone are worth checking out.

Actually, as a fan of the original Knight Rider (Gee, I wonder why, maybe because I was 11 at the time), the voice reminded me of the version of K.A.R.R. that was in a couple of episodes.

I had to look, and Peter Cullen, is indeed the voice of Optimus Prime (not only in the movies, but in the animated series previously), and when scrolling far enough down, he was also the voice of K.A.R.R. in one episode of original series (a second K.A.R.R. episode had Paul Frees as the voice).

Peter Cullen's Bio on IMDB (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0191520/)

Episode Guide: Knight Rider: Trust Doesn't Rust (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0620882/)

You had to look?:p

The irony(?) is that K.A.R.R. did not transform originally.

Can you say "type casting"?;) Always good to hear Cullen though.

When is this much talked about series "reboot" going to happen for this show? I thought it was this month that they were going to pull the show and redo it along with new actors, etc.

The reboot has already happened, with all but four of the main characters eliminated. (Five counting the car.)

Probably a shark jumping episode (40 minutes of setup for a 3 minute battle), but it definitely looks like they "refreshed" the direction of the show from a gov't run secret agency to a private one that offers civilian assistance - ala the original series.

Guilty pleasure, so I'm gonna keep checking in. The lead women alone are worth checking out.


Yeah as someone who watched the original series back when, that 'battle' was very weak, but like you I'm still gonna tune in.

(40 minutes of setup for a 3 minute battle)

Probably all they could afford.

Yeah as someone who watched the original series back when, that 'battle' was very weak, but like you I'm still gonna tune in.

i thought the final battle was good, but I wanted Karr to last at least 1 more episode.

props to them though for referencing the original series. KITT killed KARR the same way he did back with the Hoff at the wheel.

Not entirely sure why...but I find myself watching KR each week.

Probably because I am just bored to tears with the crap that is on TV these days.

I liked this weeks......the final battle could have been longer but oh well.

I am glad they got rid of the whole terrorist of the week and those annoying government agents and the old man.

Who knows if the show still has a chance...but its mindless entertainment + hot chicks so ill keep watching for now.

The reboot has already happened, with all but four of the main characters eliminated. (Five counting the car.)

You mean last nights episode was the reboot? That is the direction they went with the series, a Transformers like car? Okay, never mind then, still not going to watch it then.

Just like in the old series I doubt KARR is gone forever (assuming the series sticks around).

I'm still a little undecided about Peter Cullen being the voice of KARR. He's great, but not sure I like him as a bad guy, he's still Optimus Prime to me (grew up watching the original Transformers).

Probably all they could afford.

Good point, you're probably right.



I liked this weeks......the final battle could have been longer but oh well.

I am glad they got rid of the whole terrorist of the week and those annoying government agents and the old man.

Who knows if the show still has a chance...but its mindless entertainment + hot chicks so ill keep watching for now.

My thoughts exactly. Sometimes you just want a break from the same ole tv shows

You mean last nights episode was the reboot? That is the direction they went with the series, a Transformers like car? Okay, never mind then, still not going to watch it then.

I think (hope) this episode was sort of a point to move on from and not a sign of things to come. I'm still trying to wrap my head around how the agents body stayed intact through all that transformation and destruction.

Just like in the old series I doubt KARR is gone forever (assuming the series sticks around).


If they could resurrect KARR after everyone saw it blow up the first time around in the original series, then it'll be way too easy to bring him back after last night's battle. All those pieces will somehow find their way back together.

If they could resurrect KARR after everyone saw it blow up the first time around in the original series, then it'll be way too easy to bring him back after last night's battle. All those pieces will somehow find their way back together.

If I remember right, at the end of the first appearance of K.A.R.R. it was a game of Chicken that forced K.A.R.R. off a cliff into the Pacific. We never actually saw the car destroyed. In the follow up episode, he was found in a cave at the bottom of the cliff, and was destroyed when they used a similar tactic as last night's to leave the car in pieces.

Alas, I'm affraid to say, that is most likely the end of K.A.R.R., unless the NSA rebuilds him (which is possible, since K.I.T.T. was rebuilt a number of times through the original series run.)

If I remember right, at the end of the first appearance of K.A.R.R. it was a game of Chicken that forced K.A.R.R. off a cliff into the Pacific. We never actually saw the car destroyed.

True, but we did see an explosion as the car was going off that cliff making us think it was destroyed.

True, but we did see an explosion as the car was going off that cliff making us think it was destroyed.

carr wasent distryoed, why do you think they included the subplot of kitt uploading himself on to the internet, carr did the same thing

carr wasent distryoed, why do you think they included the subplot of kitt uploading himself on to the internet, carr did the same thing

Must have been one heck of a WiFi hotspot. :D

carr wasent distryoed, why do you think they included the subplot of kitt uploading himself on to the internet, carr did the same thing

I was referring to the original series back in the 80s, which I guess you never saw.

I was referring to the original series back in the 80s, which I guess you never saw.

tv land only showed season 1

If you have Sleuth they show the old series on there as well.

Have to say I am happy with the direction the show has taken. It was about time they cleaned house.

I never liked Carrie and I couldn't stand Torres. As for Dr. Graiman, I felt like he was dead weight and a bore that added nothing to the show. As long as Sarah and Zoe remained, I am happy. :D

As for the KITT-KARR showdown, it definitely was a bit anticlimactic, but I guess that's the limitations of TV. How many times have Heroes fans wished for more epic showdowns, only to have it end within seconds?

Not Canceled?
http://knightrideronline.com/news/2008/12/knight_rider_not_canceled_says_gst.php

What happened in the first part of this last episode? Until the title sequence all I got was a black screen with the WBAL logo in the corner. The first scene I saw was Michael and Sarah near the beach.

What happened in the first part of this last episode? Until the title sequence all I got was a black screen with the WBAL logo in the corner. The first scene I saw was Michael and Sarah near the beach.

Sara was drinking her sorrows away, not answering Michael's calls, and beat up some douche who was trying to pick her up!

Not Canceled?
http://knightrideronline.com/news/2008/12/knight_rider_not_canceled_says_gst.php

Also looking around that site, there is an article about the effects of the K.I.T.T. vs. K.A.R.R. battle, and how the studio brass cut the budget, otherwise, it would have been twice as long (or longer).

If you're interested in seeing the orignal version, you can see the "previsualization" version of the extended battle over at YouTube:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rxuk-GD18Rc

What happened in the first part of this last episode? Until the title sequence all I got was a black screen with the WBAL logo in the corner.

I saw that the NBC website has full episodes, so the next day I watched the beginning.

Not Canceled?
http://knightrideronline.com/news/2008/12/knight_rider_not_canceled_says_gst.php

How appropriate, that the show runner for Knight Rider, and Las Vegas before that, is wearing a T-shirt that boldy proclaims 'The Cheesiest'.

That female DEA agent on tonights episode was a #$%*@ bitch. Michael solves the case and saves the kid and he gets no thank you!

Wow. This is still on?

If only the the first few episodes were stupid fun like this one.

First unit live-action is shot on a Sony F-23 fed directly to HDCAM SR at 1080p 4:4:4 [color sampling at 10-bit].

Crash cams and B-cameras use Iconix and Sony EX-1 cameras

highdef.com
Mar/April 2009 issue

The Sony F-23 is also used on these TV series: "Gossip Girl", "Dexter", "The Unusuals", "Weeds".