redman042
11-29-07, 02:14 PM
I'm finally getting around to posting my play-by-play of the construction of our theater room. It's actually near done now - we are using it regularly - all it is missing are some decorative items like drapes and room lighting. But it is completely functional and we are already having a blast with it.
I’ll split this up into multiple posts to make it easier to read.
Our theater was built in an upstairs bonus room in our home. We did it all ourselves and tried not to modify the room too much. The goal was to install moderately high-end equipment and modify the room enough to get good seating positions and good light control, but not to completely redo the room to look totally like a real movie theater. We tried to strike a balance, and to save some money on furnishings. We decided not to paint the room dark or buy seating specifically made for theaters. This would save us some money and help the room blend with the feel of the rest of the house. If it were a completely enclosed room, say in the basement (if we had a basement), then we might have gone all out and made it look like a true theater, but as it was, we just wanted a nice, comfortable place to watch movies on the big screen, with good sound and good seating.
During the planning phase, I posted my initial design in this forum looking for feedback. You can find that thread here:
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=899340
I got some good advice from many folks, some of which I followed. I did not go with the extra wide screen, nor did I flip the room around, for several reasons. Turns out I was able to remove the little wall sticking out without a problem (more on that later), so the screen mounted nicely. Anyway, I’m jumping ahead, so how about I start from the beginning.
Getting Started
Here’s the bonus room before we really got going. This was back in mid August 2007.
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1097/1268257463_9dc163f25a.jpg
As you can see, the seating is already there. This is really what got the ball rolling. We had been talking about doing a theater room for a while, but hadn’t acted. One day a friend told us that Macy’s Furniture Gallery was having an incredible sale, so we went to check it out. They were selling nice microfiber recliners for only $500 per pair! We ordered four that day, along with a couch for the front row. Unfortunately, one of the compromises we had to make to save all this money was that the couch material is not exactly the same color as the chairs.
Now that we were committed to this theater room, I started researching equipment. That began with a trip to Magnolia, which happened to be right across the street from Macy’s. Spent about two hours there, put together a list of possibilities, then went home and did a bunch of research on the internet (including AVS Forum, of course).
Decisions I made early on: I wanted clean, powerful sound. No cheap home-theater-in-a-box for us. I wanted good quality equipment, but not excessive cost. I was content with 5.1 surround for now, figuring that this is still what most audio sources output, and if I got good equipment, I could always add speakers later if needed. I wanted a 1080p projector if at all possible. But I did not want to spend more than three grand for one. I wanted a big enough screen that the movie room felt much more impressive than sitting in front of our 50” DLP set downstairs. Otherwise, why bother, right? So I decided on 100” minimum HDTV ratio screen (I eventually selected a 106” screen). That size was one of the reasons I decided on 1080p, because I didn’t want obvious pixels showing up.
Here’s what I ended up purchasing. The audio equipment all came from Magnolia, the rest from other sources:
Monitor Audio RG6 Front tower speakers
Monitor Audio RSLCR Center speaker
Speakercraft Aim 8 Two in-ceiling surrounds
Martin Logan Abyss subwoofer
Denon AVR2308Cl receiver
Epson Home Cinema 1080 projector
Da-Lite High Contrast Cinema Vision 106” fixed screen with pro-trim frame finish
Dish Network ViP 722 DVR
Xbox360 with HD-DVD add on drive
Monster AVL300 Universal Remote (Harmony)
… all of this came in at a price tag of around $8500. Not bad, eh? I could have spent that much just on the projector.
A few words on why I chose this equipment…
The projector was a pretty easy choice. There was nothing else in this price range that did 1080p with this level of image quality and had lens shift. It is simply a great projector for the price. After using it for several weeks, I’m extremely pleased with it.
The screen took a bit longer to settle on. Magnolia and most other high end equipment retailers only sell Stewarts. They tried hard to sell me one. These are amazing screens, but the high contrast grey Stewart in this size range is about $2500. I thought I should be able to get very close to a Stewart at significantly lower cost. After a lot of research, I settled on the Da-Lite. For $1500, I got a terrific looking screen for a lot less, and most reviewers say this is pretty close to a Stewart. I’m extremely pleased with the results. It does a pretty good job rejecting reflected light in the room (particularly important because I have light colored paint on the walls), and paired with this projector, displays a very bright and contrasty image, sometimes TOO bright when the projector is in the Dynamic (brightest) setting. And since the projector mounted at the back of the room (ie. nowhere near the minimum distance), that’s saying a lot.
I don’t have much to say about the other equipment – I’m new to Monitor Audio but it sounded stunning in the store, and the online reviews were very positive. Same with the Speakercrafts. Denon is a great name in receivers – just needed enough wattage to fill my room with clean sound. I already owned the Xbox 360 – moving it upstairs to the new theater was a no-brainer. The HD-DVD add on drive was a cheap way to get into the HD movie game without waiting for the format war to sort out, and movies look stunning on it. Since my Xbox doesn’t have HDMI, I ran a separate VGA cable back to the projector for that source, and another HDMI cable for the other sources (just the DVR for now). My experience has been that the Xbox 360 VGA output comes extremely close to HDMI in quality, far better than component, and so I don’t sweat the lack of HDMI in this case. Bottom line – HD movies look absolutely stunning!
I’ll split this up into multiple posts to make it easier to read.
Our theater was built in an upstairs bonus room in our home. We did it all ourselves and tried not to modify the room too much. The goal was to install moderately high-end equipment and modify the room enough to get good seating positions and good light control, but not to completely redo the room to look totally like a real movie theater. We tried to strike a balance, and to save some money on furnishings. We decided not to paint the room dark or buy seating specifically made for theaters. This would save us some money and help the room blend with the feel of the rest of the house. If it were a completely enclosed room, say in the basement (if we had a basement), then we might have gone all out and made it look like a true theater, but as it was, we just wanted a nice, comfortable place to watch movies on the big screen, with good sound and good seating.
During the planning phase, I posted my initial design in this forum looking for feedback. You can find that thread here:
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=899340
I got some good advice from many folks, some of which I followed. I did not go with the extra wide screen, nor did I flip the room around, for several reasons. Turns out I was able to remove the little wall sticking out without a problem (more on that later), so the screen mounted nicely. Anyway, I’m jumping ahead, so how about I start from the beginning.
Getting Started
Here’s the bonus room before we really got going. This was back in mid August 2007.
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1097/1268257463_9dc163f25a.jpg
As you can see, the seating is already there. This is really what got the ball rolling. We had been talking about doing a theater room for a while, but hadn’t acted. One day a friend told us that Macy’s Furniture Gallery was having an incredible sale, so we went to check it out. They were selling nice microfiber recliners for only $500 per pair! We ordered four that day, along with a couch for the front row. Unfortunately, one of the compromises we had to make to save all this money was that the couch material is not exactly the same color as the chairs.
Now that we were committed to this theater room, I started researching equipment. That began with a trip to Magnolia, which happened to be right across the street from Macy’s. Spent about two hours there, put together a list of possibilities, then went home and did a bunch of research on the internet (including AVS Forum, of course).
Decisions I made early on: I wanted clean, powerful sound. No cheap home-theater-in-a-box for us. I wanted good quality equipment, but not excessive cost. I was content with 5.1 surround for now, figuring that this is still what most audio sources output, and if I got good equipment, I could always add speakers later if needed. I wanted a 1080p projector if at all possible. But I did not want to spend more than three grand for one. I wanted a big enough screen that the movie room felt much more impressive than sitting in front of our 50” DLP set downstairs. Otherwise, why bother, right? So I decided on 100” minimum HDTV ratio screen (I eventually selected a 106” screen). That size was one of the reasons I decided on 1080p, because I didn’t want obvious pixels showing up.
Here’s what I ended up purchasing. The audio equipment all came from Magnolia, the rest from other sources:
Monitor Audio RG6 Front tower speakers
Monitor Audio RSLCR Center speaker
Speakercraft Aim 8 Two in-ceiling surrounds
Martin Logan Abyss subwoofer
Denon AVR2308Cl receiver
Epson Home Cinema 1080 projector
Da-Lite High Contrast Cinema Vision 106” fixed screen with pro-trim frame finish
Dish Network ViP 722 DVR
Xbox360 with HD-DVD add on drive
Monster AVL300 Universal Remote (Harmony)
… all of this came in at a price tag of around $8500. Not bad, eh? I could have spent that much just on the projector.
A few words on why I chose this equipment…
The projector was a pretty easy choice. There was nothing else in this price range that did 1080p with this level of image quality and had lens shift. It is simply a great projector for the price. After using it for several weeks, I’m extremely pleased with it.
The screen took a bit longer to settle on. Magnolia and most other high end equipment retailers only sell Stewarts. They tried hard to sell me one. These are amazing screens, but the high contrast grey Stewart in this size range is about $2500. I thought I should be able to get very close to a Stewart at significantly lower cost. After a lot of research, I settled on the Da-Lite. For $1500, I got a terrific looking screen for a lot less, and most reviewers say this is pretty close to a Stewart. I’m extremely pleased with the results. It does a pretty good job rejecting reflected light in the room (particularly important because I have light colored paint on the walls), and paired with this projector, displays a very bright and contrasty image, sometimes TOO bright when the projector is in the Dynamic (brightest) setting. And since the projector mounted at the back of the room (ie. nowhere near the minimum distance), that’s saying a lot.
I don’t have much to say about the other equipment – I’m new to Monitor Audio but it sounded stunning in the store, and the online reviews were very positive. Same with the Speakercrafts. Denon is a great name in receivers – just needed enough wattage to fill my room with clean sound. I already owned the Xbox 360 – moving it upstairs to the new theater was a no-brainer. The HD-DVD add on drive was a cheap way to get into the HD movie game without waiting for the format war to sort out, and movies look stunning on it. Since my Xbox doesn’t have HDMI, I ran a separate VGA cable back to the projector for that source, and another HDMI cable for the other sources (just the DVR for now). My experience has been that the Xbox 360 VGA output comes extremely close to HDMI in quality, far better than component, and so I don’t sweat the lack of HDMI in this case. Bottom line – HD movies look absolutely stunning!