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Mkellyvich
12-24-08, 03:54 PM
GreenGA,

If you don't want to wait you can get the 1/8" stereo cables at any Radio Shack (or your local big box store)...You could be up and running tonight!

Cheers,

Mike

salvador_dali
02-03-09, 11:13 AM
This is sort of a double post but since I did not receive one reply I thought I would ask here.

I have a Kenwood DV 5700. It started a NO PLAY NO DISC error. Cleaned it using the Maxell Cleaner 20 times and a brush cleaner 3 times. Now it generates an error message all the time whereas before it did sometime play.

I am trying to get it repaired. The likely issue is the lens. I have a replacement lens but it has an extra ribbon hanging off one side so i don't think it is a match.

Has anyone repaired their 5700? Any ideas? Thanks

les_garten
02-26-09, 03:48 PM
Hello,
I bought one of these back in like 2002. DV-5900M with the Entre controller. A job move caused me to not be at my house when the company packed up my household stuff.

Well I decided to see this gear that has set unused for all this time and found the Changer has discs in it, and I can't get the door to open to get them out. I see no latch on the door, and don't want to tear up the Changer. Anybody have a trick for this?

Thanx!

Les

Nick Satullo
02-26-09, 03:50 PM
Hello,
I bought one of these back in like 2002. DV-5900M with the Entre controller. A job move caused me to not be at my house when the company packed up my household stuff.

Well I decided to see this gear that has set unused for all this time and found the Changer has discs in it, and I can't get the door to open to get them out. I see no latch on the door, and don't want to tear up the Changer. Anybody have a trick for this?

Thanx!

Les

It's not a big deal to take the screws out of the top and sides of the DV-5900M, and then you can access the innards of the changer. I'm betting that something is stuck which you can easily fix from the top/side cover being off, and then it will work fine.

It's still a great setup. It continued to be great through all of DVD, and now we await something like it in BD.

Thanks,

Nick :cool:

les_garten
02-26-09, 06:27 PM
It's not a big deal to take the screws out of the top and sides of the DV-5900M, and then you can access the innards of the changer. I'm betting that something is stuck which you can easily fix from the top/side cover being off, and then it will work fine.

It's still a great setup. It continued to be great through all of DVD, and now we await something like it in BD.

Thanks,

Nick :cool:

Hi,
Thanx. Very timely. I had just discovered that. Got the three hundred or so DVD's out of there!! It was a mess.

So here' what it does or doesn't do.

You turn it on and it just lights the display and says D001 T01 and the M Icon is lit Blue and the D.C. icon is lit. Doesn't move anything or try to index discs. I looked in the manual and there is a computer initialization/reset procedure and I went through it twice, no Love there.

So you turn it on and it lights up and that is it. None of the controls do anything. I hate to toss it because it is a Nice changer.

Les

les_garten
02-27-09, 02:29 AM
Does anybody know where the Sovereign FAQ went or do you have a copy of it?

Thanx!
Les

les_garten
02-27-09, 08:14 PM
Hi,
I got a big problem I'm trying to slve and am looking for the Sovereign FAQ. It is no longer at :
http://homepage.mac.com/jbryer/theater/sovereignfaq/sovereignfaq.html

Does anyone have a copy of it. I tried the wayback machine, but no good there.

Thanx!

Really Need the help with my DV-5900m

.

les_garten
02-28-09, 10:07 AM
PLEASE! If anyone knows where ohh where the Sovereign FAQ went, I would appreciate it!!

.

krichter1
02-28-09, 10:34 AM
I can help you Les. If you PM me I'll email you the word document I have saved.

B&W700guy
03-07-09, 07:38 PM
About 8 years ago I purchased a DV-5900M, and loved it till, it died about a year ago. This week I purchased a referb 5900 and an Entre. Seems the 5900 is working properly...even pulled out an old laptop with Netname sw, it went to the web and d-loaded the disc info for one of my CD's.

The Entre is a different mater. I have a Netmate CATC: USB to Ethernet device, that came with the unit. The Entre is loaded with fw rev 1.1.0.10, as I have read I may need 2.x for ethernet com.

I tried DYNAMIC IP, no go, then I went to my computer, found the network information, went to 50, just incase, at the end of the IP String.

I have been able to Ping the Netmate from my network. After this, it seemed to go into the first download screens and get info like computer radio information, but when it got to OpenGlobe... it flashed to finish. The odd thing was my router only had the LIGHT ON for DEVICE, but the LOWER LIGHT for SPEED was not LIT.

The problem is that I cannot get into Open Globe to update disc information "once I got a DSN ERROR MESSAGE when trying to update a CD." So, I am not sure if I really have done any updates?

I emailed Country Bumkin and tried to d-loaded the kenwood120.zip file, but it was not there. Found other helpful files though:)

I am waiting for a reply from CB on what I am doing wrong.

Anybody have any other ideas? Also, I never saw any registrations request

Thanks

James A. McGahee
03-08-09, 09:21 PM
Is there anyone who uses the iPhone remote control applications for operating their Sovereign system?

How do you get the commands into the iPhone?
Is it a similiar process as with Harmony remotes?

Thanks for your help!!

B&W700guy
03-10-09, 09:47 AM
try REMOTE CENTRAIL . COM, Google them

B&W700guy
03-12-09, 11:29 PM
About 8 years ago I purchased a DV-5900M, and loved it till, it died about a year ago. This week I purchased a referb 5900 and an Entre. Seems the 5900 is working properly...even pulled out an old laptop with Netname sw, it went to the web and d-loaded the disc info for one of my CD's.

The Entre is a different mater. I have a Netmate CATC: USB to Ethernet device, that came with the unit. The Entre is loaded with fw rev 1.1.0.10, as I have read I may need 2.x for ethernet com.

I tried DYNAMIC IP, no go, then I went to my computer, found the network information, went to 50, just incase, at the end of the IP String.

I have been able to Ping the Netmate from my network. After this, it seemed to go into the first download screens and get info like computer radio information, but when it got to OpenGlobe... it flashed to finish. The odd thing was my router only had the LIGHT ON for DEVICE, but the LOWER LIGHT for SPEED was not LIT.

The problem is that I cannot get into Open Globe to update disc information "once I got a DSN ERROR MESSAGE when trying to update a CD." So, I am not sure if I really have done any updates?

I emailed Country Bumkin and tried to d-loaded the kenwood120.zip file, but it was not there. Found other helpful files though:)

I am waiting for a reply from CB on what I am doing wrong.

Anybody have any other ideas? Also, I never saw any registrations request

Thanks

Great News! Been stuffing my dvd play and entre with all my discs since last sunday. Never had to update firmware, Happy:) Best $350.00 investment I have ever made:D The iPhone interface is cool;)

James A. McGahee
03-13-09, 12:04 AM
Great New! Been stuffing my dvd play and entre with all my discs since last sunday. Never had to update firmware, Happy:) Best $350.00 investment I have ever made:D The iPhone interface is cool;)

I've had the changer/Entre setup for 6 years. I have really enjoyed it a lot and am having a really hard time dealing with the need to upgrade the matching receiver for the new audio codecs.

Tell me about the iPhone interface, how it works, what you need, where you got it, etc.
Thanks

Bver
03-17-09, 01:48 PM
Good to hear that some of you are still enjoying the Entre system. I was too until Sunday when I turned everything on and the Entre would not respond. I got the blinking red light and that was all. I tried to reboot by unplugging and holding down the on button with no results. I have left it unplugged over-night with no result. The red light blinks at a steady rate as soon as it is pluged in. The disk tray did open and close twice but not as a result of pushing the open button. Anyone have any ideas as to how to get it to turn on? My 5900 is working just fine, and I have no problem playing CDs. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks. Bver

Mkellyvich
03-17-09, 08:44 PM
Bver,

Sounds like your hard drive may have gone (the drive tray opening on its own is probably the unit telling you it can't find an operating system on the disc). If you have the 120Gb upgrade CD you can replace the drive and use the CD to reload the operating system - you'll have to reload your media and re-lookup all your movies. One way to test this theory is to unplug the Entre, then plug it back in and listen for the HDD to spin up - if you don't hear it the drive has likely died.

I've replaced the drives in my Entres with 120Gb and 160Gb IDE drives with no problems (the 160Gb drive formats to 120Gb using the CD I have, but the drive was only $35 so I don't care about the wasted space). There was a FAQ linked from the AVS Entre Technical thread that gave instructions.

Hope this helps,

Mike

Bver
03-23-09, 06:35 PM
Mike,

Thanks for the info. I'm sure that is the problem I can hear a spin and a click sound like the read head is stuck. I checked my paperwork and found that I still have a few months left on my NSI warranty that I paid $80 buck for when I purchased the Entre from Vanns. To my complete surprise I talked to a very friendly and knowledgeble lady who processed my claim and sent it off to the repair company, DTR Technologies in Denver. I called them, and they said to send it in for a diagnosis. They will either repair it or give me back the $300 purchase price. Whatever the outcome, I am ready to upgrade to a whole new system such as the Escient. I went through pure hell with the Entre for almost a year after I bought it trying to get it to connect with Open Globe and do what it is supposed to do with my CD collection. My two son's-in-law who are very tech savvy had no luck even with the little help we got from Kenwood. One day I was on the phone to Escient to get some information on Open Globe, and I was talking with a terrific tech by the name of Mike who said he might be able to help me with the proper codes to get the Entre working. In less than 10 minutes I was in business, and everything worked fine from then on. I wrote down the settings at that time, but somehow Murphy seems to have hidden them on me. I do not want to go through that setup nightmare again. Mike, is there any chance that you were that Mike? If I get the Entre back in working order, I will sell it and my 5900 for a few bucks and go to something that does not require a degree from MIT to operate. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. My thanks to all of you for your forum participation.

By the way James, the Axcess you bought from me is still under warranty until 10/21/09 just in case you have any problems with it.

Thanks and best regards,

Bver

Mkellyvich
03-23-09, 08:59 PM
Bver,

Nope, I'm not the Mike from Escient. I switched from the Entre to the Escient DVDM-100 for DVD control two years ago and have been very happy with it - simpler startup and easier editing of movie information. The DVDM-100 works well with the Kenwood changers. I still use the Entre for music and internet radio (and to serve music to a couple of Axcess portals). I haven't played with the new Escient Vision systems at all.

You might be able to find the key commands to reset the Entre in this or the Sovereign tech discussion thread (I think you enter 5555 while in the Entre's setup menu).

Good luck with the repair - leave a post telling how it works out.

Cheers,

Mike

B&W700guy
03-23-09, 09:35 PM
Great News! Been stuffing my dvd play and entre with all my discs since last sunday. Never had to update firmware, Happy:) Best $350.00 investment I have ever made:D The iPhone interface is cool;)

Well, ran into some trouble last week. My Entre would only read up to 250 discs. I messed around with the unit and was able to force a download to 2.x firmware. Wow...much faster lookup on OpenGlobe! Can’t believe that I purchased a 400 disc DVD changer and an Entre for $350.00! Hopefully this will last me three years or so. Can’t wait till we see the Bluray DVD changers, with what they are doing with Bluray you will have enough memory to do all of your BD live and the stuff that this entre does all in one. Gotta love technology

James A. McGahee
03-23-09, 10:48 PM
Well, ran into some trouble last week. My Entre would only read up to 250 discs. I messed around with the unit and was able to force a download to 2.x firmware. Wow...much faster lookup on OpenGlobe! Can’t believe that I purchased a 400 disc DVD changer and an Entre for $350.00! Hopefully this will last me three years or so. Can’t wait till we see the Bluray DVD changers, with what they are doing with Bluray you will have enough memory to do all of your BD live and the stuff that this entre does all in one. Gotta love technology

Who is working on the Blu Ray DVD changers?
What have you heard about it?
The only one I am aware of is the rather expensive unit by
Sony that I believe is already for sale, although I haven't seen it anywhere in the Dallas-Ft. Worth area.

Hey Bver, I have had it up and running. Then I started having problems. Someone here helped me get it up and going again but it has since stopped working and I haven't taken time to work with it again. I don't think there is anything wrong with it, just my lack of technical knowledge and patience. Glad to know about the warranty. I will now make an effort to get it up and running before it expires.
Thanks-

B&W700guy
03-24-09, 12:03 AM
Sony will have the new 400 disc Bluray changer out this year. I am sure it will be around 2k. But as I remember the 5900 was $1495.00. Give it a few years and I am sure you will be able to buy it for under 1k ;)

James A. McGahee
03-24-09, 10:34 PM
Sony will have the new 400 disc Bluray changer out this year. I am sure it will be around 2k. But as I remember the 5900 was $1495.00. Give it a few years and I am sure you will be able to buy it for under 1k ;)

Great! Thanks for the info.!!

Nick Satullo
03-25-09, 01:43 PM
Sony will have the new 400 disc Bluray changer out this year. I am sure it will be around 2k. But as I remember the 5900 was $1495.00. Give it a few years and I am sure you will be able to buy it for under 1k ;)

While I hope you're right, this is more information than I have been able to get from any Sony source. We've seen dummied up versions of the "soon-to-be-released" BD changer at the last two CEDIAs, and the last CES. But no hard information exists on whether such a unit will actually be released, or even its features.

If someone has better information, I'd love to learn it.

Thanks,

Nick :cool:

B&W700guy
03-25-09, 09:25 PM
While I hope you're right, this is more information than I have been able to get from any Sony source. We've seen dummied up versions of the "soon-to-be-released" BD changer at the last two CEDIAs, and the last CES. But no hard information exists on whether such a unit will actually be released, or even its features.

If someone has better information, I'd love to learn it.

Thanks,

Nick :cool:

The only press release I have ever read about a release for the 400 changer is the last CEDIA....they may have showed a version before the last show but I am sure they didn't press release a date;)

I spoke with of my freinds who ownes a Hi-fi shop and told me that the Sony rep stated that it will be out this year... I am not a sony fan...but it is, what it is. I hope another company comes out with a changer, or Bluray downloads. Then we won't need these fradgile changers.


B&W700guy :cool: :eek:

Johnla
03-26-09, 12:06 AM
While I hope you're right, this is more information than I have been able to get from any Sony source. We've seen dummied up versions of the "soon-to-be-released" BD changer at the last two CEDIAs, and the last CES. But no hard information exists on whether such a unit will actually be released, or even its features.

If someone has better information, I'd love to learn it.

Thanks,

Nick :cool:
Here is a blurb about it from the last CEDIA

http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/09/04/sony-shows-off-prototype-400-disc-blu-ray-mega-changer/

dcpmark
04-16-09, 09:45 PM
Ok, Kenwood fans! I've been using my VR-5900 and DV-5900M for many years, but I'm ready to get something that can handle HDMI video switching. Anyone care to make some recommendations? The cheaper the better, but I'm not willing to sacrifice my current performance levels.

TIA

Mkellyvich
04-24-09, 06:41 PM
Seems like folks are slowly letting their Sovereign gear go. I've put all my DVDs on a server, but still have the changers (with an Escient controller) hooked up to the system for Zone 2 playback. I still use the Entre and Axcess portals for music as well, although the PCs are slowly taking that over too.

I have three working changers and three parts changers that I'll probably put on the market in the near future.

Cheers,

Mike

B&W700guy
04-24-09, 08:40 PM
Seems like folks are slowly letting their Sovereign gear go. I've put all my DVDs on a server, but still have the changers (with an Escient controller) hooked up to the system for Zone 2 playback. I still use the Entre and Axcess portals for music as well, although the PCs are slowly taking that over too.

I have three working changers and three parts changers that I'll probably put on the market in the near future.

Cheers,

Mike

The only problem is that you can get a new/referbed, Entre/5900 combo for $300.00. If you look, you can still find them;) There is no resale value for used product:(

Mkellyvich
04-26-09, 09:47 AM
Yep, selling your previously-prized electronics is a great way to get perspective on this hobby. I haven't decided what to do with the Sovereign gear yet - we will likely have to move again next summer and I'll probably hang onto it until I see whether it makes sense to set the system up somewhere in the new house. I still like the functionality of the Entre/VR-5900/DV-5900 setup, and the sound/picture quality is still great as well.

At some point the pile of electronic boxes starts getting bigger/heavier than the rest of your household goods and you have to downsize...

Cheers,

Mike

James A. McGahee
05-11-09, 11:07 PM
According to page 48 of the the Entre User's Guide it says to check the Kenwood USA Web site for an updated list of supported MP3 players. Anyone remember ever seeing anything other that the listed players in the guide: Compaq PA-1, Compaq PA-2, and Rio 600?

Anyone know if there are others out theret that will work? Iphone/Touch?

Thanks-

James A. McGahee
08-06-09, 11:08 PM
Does anyone know where I can find the Remote Codes for the Sovereign Componets:

VR-5900 Receiver,
DV-5900M Changer,
MR-H1 Entre' Entertainment Hub (server),
MR-P1 Axcess Remote Portal

and their corrosponding remotes:

RC-R1111 Power Touch III LCD RF-IR Audio Video 2 Way Remote Control,
RC-DO513,
RC-PO101, and
RC-R1005

Thanks for your help-

B&W700guy
08-21-09, 10:01 PM
Go to remotecentral.com

Mkellyvich
11-11-09, 10:23 PM
It is a sad day. Today I unpacked all the discs from my three DV-5900s and put them in the garage for future sale. All the DVDs have been ripped to a VMC server. The Sovereign gear served well for the last 7.5 years, but it is time to move on...

I still use the Entre and a couple of Axcess portals, and the VR-5900 is doing two-channel duty in an audio-only system in a spare room.

Anyone else still using their Sovereign gear?

Mike

krichter1
11-12-09, 09:16 AM
Yeah, I still have my two systems (6 changers & two Entres), although I rarely use them any more due to exclusive HD purchases now. I'm considering the new Sony 400 disc Blu changer but so far they cannot be slaved nor any announced Escient support.

How did you find the time to rip 1200 discs to a media server? I'm not familiar with VMC though. Sounds really expensive for that many drives!

Good luck buddy!
Kevin

Montagar
11-12-09, 11:12 AM
It is a sad day. Today I unpacked all the discs from my three DV-5900s and put them in the garage for future sale. All the DVDs have been ripped to a VMC server. The Sovereign gear served well for the last 7.5 years, but it is time to move on...

I still use the Entre and a couple of Axcess portals, and the VR-5900 is doing two-channel duty in an audio-only system in a spare room.

Anyone else still using their Sovereign gear?

Mike

That does seem to be where we are heading, but I think I will continue to use what I have for a bit longer. :)

Now if I could only find a DV-5900 video processing board that has the upgrade... my #2 unit's video board just died. :(

DannyFresh
11-12-09, 02:12 PM
My unit is still operational, although I really don't use it much any more.
I went the HTPC route about a year ago and that serves me pretty well.
I have fond memories of posting on this thread. Asking questions an receiving far more information than I actually bargined for. Hacking that Entre was sure a lot of fun. Mike, seeing your post has brought many thoughts back from the past. The sovereign system was way ahead of it's time. I enjoyed the time I spent with it. Take care all, and good luck. Now back to hacking th iPhone!

Mkellyvich
11-12-09, 09:07 PM
Kevin,

It took about a month running 3 computers and sticking in a disc every time I walked by to rip all the movies. Surprisingly, the server cost less than $2k to build (has 8TB of storage, 6 of which is dedicated to DVDs on 4 1.5TB drives). I skipped all the fancy UNRAID and RAID solutions - just bought a motherboard with 6 SATA connections and use the disks as individual volumes. I bought 4 external 1.5TB drives and backed up the DVD drives one-for-one.

The Vista Media Center DVD library has worked reliably for the last 9 months after a little initial fiddling to keep HDMI audio from dropping out when the machine is idle.

Like Danny said, the Sovereign system was well ahead of its time - the integration of the receiver, entre, changers and portals has yet to be matched by anything else I've seen without a specialized control system and hours of programming. Towards the end I bought a couple of parts changers to fix bad video boards, but we had many thousands of hours of entertainment from the system between 2002 and 2009. Many thanks to all of you who figured out how to FTP to the unit, update the metadata, upgrade the hard drives, etc.

Cheers,

Mike

B&W700guy
11-13-09, 09:44 PM
I am very happy with my Entre and a DV-5900. It is filled with cd'S, DVD Movies and alot of DVD music video that will probibly never come out in Bluray. I will soon buy the sony bluray 400 disc play for my Blurays.

Nick Satullo
11-13-09, 10:36 PM
Still a few pieces in operation, but mostly relegated to the sideline. Nonetheless, the whole Sovereign concept has formed the basis for my current theater system.

And, too, this thread had some lively moments. I'm pleased to have been a part of it.

Good luck, all.

Thanks,

Nick :cool:

James A. McGahee
11-19-09, 08:58 PM
It is a sad day. Today I unpacked all the discs from my three DV-5900s and put them in the garage for future sale. All the DVDs have been ripped to a VMC server. The Sovereign gear served well for the last 7.5 years, but it is time to move on...

I still use the Entre and a couple of Axcess portals, and the VR-5900 is doing two-channel duty in an audio-only system in a spare room.

Anyone else still using their Sovereign gear?

Mike

Still using my 5900 receiver, changer, Axcess, and Entre. Thinking about upgrading starting with the receiver. With all the changes-HDMI 1.4 soon, the new audio codecs, etc. it's time. Not sure I'll be able to find a receiver in the same price range that sounds as good.


Anybody got any preferences/ideas for a replacement?

Still considering Denon, Onkyo,maybe Integra separates. I'll haven't posted much lately but will continue until the very end. Thanks to everyone who helped over the last several years!

vaha
11-20-09, 03:46 PM
Still have and use my Entre and DV-5900. My next purchase will be the Sony bluray changer and the Sony VW-85 projector.

James A. McGahee
11-21-09, 08:49 PM
Still have and use my Entre and DV-5900. My next purchase will be the Sony bluray changer and the Sony VW-85 projector.

Tell me what you know about the Sony VW-85 projector-price, throw, lumen, etcs.


Are you going with pretty much all Sony componets?