Why do I suck at COD4 online? [Text View]

PJ_Rage

12-09-07, 09:19 PM

IMO, the 'best' gun is the M4, by far, and I typically use stopping power and matyr with it.

For your grenade problem make sure you always pay attention to your blinking "grenade near you" warnings and run the other way. Grenades are a huge part of the multiplayer for sure, so you need to learn how to throw/use them and avoid them! Since 99% of people in MP use martry always have an escape plan when you kill someone in close quarters.

As far as being in the wrong place at the wrong time, this might just be a matter of getting used to the maps. But in any event, make sure you use your radar extensively to see where the enemy is. You should be checking it at every UAV update, if the UAV is online, that is. Try to stick with your team, and keep away from where there are a ton of enemies!

cdogg44

12-09-07, 09:46 PM

What makes me so mad is that I'll die like six times in a row within 10 seconds of respawning without every seeing my killer.

I'm just so sick of getting 6 kills and 24 deaths when a good 10 of the deaths are just total BS to me.

Oh well, it makes my sub sound good!

Hughmc

12-09-07, 09:56 PM

I don't have the game, but I can relate. I struggle at times as well with online multiplayer shooters. I think some are just more aggressive, more adept and been playing this format longer. Also, some people can hack REGARDLESS if SOny or other players say it can't happen. They said it couldn't in Resistance, but I know beyond a doubt it did. There is NO defense for or against cheaters.

Drewbert

12-09-07, 10:21 PM

kamspy

12-10-07, 01:32 AM

Play the Team Deathmatch/Domination combo room. Can't think of the name.

AK-47 til you unlock the M4

3x Special Stun Grenade: Learn how to use these, you can take out four man teams when used right.

Stopping Power

Last Stand: Be really fast on the trigger and you will be shocked at how many dumbasses walk right past you and get shot. You also get 20 points for Last Stand kills.

xpresspackage

12-10-07, 02:02 AM

i sucked too but if ur good at an FPS then adapting to this game is easy...play it like rainbow 6 with a mix of halo... look before you run, try not to stay in the same place, most people will be in typical places... think where would i be? and they will be there on the same note go on the path that is least travelled

Rieper

12-10-07, 02:39 AM

PJ_Rage

12-10-07, 07:58 AM

Cause there are mean people like me with with Gold Shotguns :D

No really. Good gun choices... M4 with stopping power, last stand or martyrdom. Very accurate, and easy to shoot.... just use the red dot... the scopes are a pita...
Or the AK with the same perks as above.
M16 is good, but the 3 round burst gets old.... fast

And once you get to 37 rank, use the G36...

And the SAW lmg is a great gun to use. you wont have to worry about reloading.... :cool:

So IMO
Assault 1st G36. 2nd M4 or AK
SMG MP5
LMG Saw....

Pick a gun and stick with it...

Good luck!I personally don't like the G36 as much as the M4. When using both with stopping power, I find that the M4 is more powerful, and also more accurate - especially at long range. Also, it seems to have a touch less recoil, so you can shoot larger bursts at slightly longer range.

I've been liking the ak47u quite a bit lately as my SMG. It has nice power, but definitely sucks at long range. MP5 beats it overall, but it is fun to use :D

The one gun I can't stand is the MP44, that thing is a piece of crap. That must be why they made the challenge only headshots.. it's like a joke I guess. The recoil is uncontrollable, and the rate of fire is laughably slow. I'm really not looking forward to completing those challenges! I typically have at least a 2:1 K/D ratio, and with the MP44 last night I was like 1:2 lol.

Something I've been realizing, that is a little upsetting to me, is that you unlock all of the best stuff very early. Most of the stuff you unlock later in the game isn't all that great. Like, the g3 is better than the m14, the mp44 is useless, the m4 is better than the g36, the mp5 is the best SMG, the RPD is better than the 3rd LMG (m60?), most of the perks you get in the beginning are the best, with the exception of frag x3 and overkill if you want to snipe. I wish the later guns were MUCH better than the early ones so you really have something to look forward to. I guess the barret is worth the wait, and also the DE, but that's about it, IMHO. Now that I've unlocked everything, and completed most of the challenges, I find myself using stuff that I had when I was in the mid 20s. It does make prestige mode that much more appealing, though!

Daekwan

12-10-07, 08:56 AM

Everybody is going to have their own opinion of how to play the game best.. which is why I'm going to agree and dissagree with alot said above.

1) I believe there is no "perfect" gun. But there are perfect guns for your style of play.
If you like to run and gun.. stick with the AK47 and RPD.. add some stopping power.
If you like to hang in the buildings or back alleys the MP5 or the shotgun is great.
If you like to snipe.. the choices for that are obvious.
If you like a little bit of all the above (like I do) I find the M16 and M4 with double tap work best. Great range from short to long, decent damage and very accurate. Probably the most accurate guns I've used.

2) I believe the absolute best 3rd perk is martydom. Most people still fall for the dropped grenade because they dont see or expect it. Even if you do in smaller places its hard to get away in time. And I love the team domination maps because Im either close to the flag or charge it.. either way who ever is on the offensive/defensive for that flag is dying when I die. I find last stand absolutely uneffective as you rank up. Mainly because its cheesy and most people have learned to shoot to kill I continue until I see the +10 pop up or purposely look for last stand kills.. they are very easy to spot.

3) Dont walk in open areas.. stick to buildings and some type of coverage.. Not only does this make you stealthier, it makes you harder to target and definitely gives you cover when discovered and fired up. Also.. dont sprint unless its necessary. I get so many kills from dudes just running around thinking they can outrun bullets. When going from building to building DONT run.. walk crouched with a purpose.. look out windows or use your radar first.. so you dont just walk into gunfire. And I say dont just sprint around.. because you usually run into gunfire. So many times ill be crouched down targeting another enemy.. and a enemy will run right into my line. So theres a 2 for 1 kill. Also when sprinting if you notice it takes a split second longer for you to pull your gun up and fire. The cross hairs are much bigger when shooting from the hip that way and much less accurate. When you walk with a purpose the cross hairs are smaller and aiming is much more accurate.

4) Learn the maps and more importantly where the fights always occur.. For the most part its the same areas over and over with guaranteed gunfights. I'd say by level 20 or so you should know the areas where all the main action occurs. Try and find the best angles in those spots. And remember the areas where dudes love to camp out. Always easy kills.. and after you kill them you take the spot and rake in some more points.

5) Use your radar. The reason why you are dying so much from grenade kills is because when you fire your weapon you show up on radar as a red dot to the enemy. As soon as that happens somebody with a grenade is goin to throw one in your direction. Especially if you are with a group of guys. So use you radar to do the same back to them. If you see a group of dots show up 2 building ahead.. throw two grenades.. throw youre flash/stun and your frag grenade.

6) Use your awards as soon as you get them. If you get radar use it. If you get airstrike use it. If you get gunship support use it. So many times I collect these things and are trying to save them for a perfect moment that the match ends being over. Not to mention you get points for them and they cancel out each other. So if you got radar and never used it.. when you get 2 more kills and airstrike.. then guess what.. your radar you earned is gone.

I could probably go on and on.. but those are the basics I've found that give me an edge. I'm by no means the top dog in this game. I think Im only ranked around 35 after 20+ hours of play. But I'm usually pretty effective and kill more than I get killed.

Drewbert

12-10-07, 09:27 AM

I personally don't like the G36 as much as the M4. When using both with stopping power, I find that the M4 is more powerful, and also more accurate - especially at long range. Also, it seems to have a touch less recoil, so you can shoot larger bursts at slightly longer range.

I've been liking the ak47u quite a bit lately as my SMG. It has nice power, but definitely sucks at long range. MP5 beats it overall, but it is fun to use :D

The one gun I can't stand is the MP44, that thing is a piece of crap. That must be why they made the challenge only headshots.. it's like a joke I guess. The recoil is uncontrollable, and the rate of fire is laughably slow. I'm really not looking forward to completing those challenges! I typically have at least a 2:1 K/D ratio, and with the MP44 last night I was like 1:2 lol.

Something I've been realizing, that is a little upsetting to me, is that you unlock all of the best stuff very early. Most of the stuff you unlock later in the game isn't all that great. Like, the g3 is better than the m14, the mp44 is useless, the m4 is better than the g36, the mp5 is the best SMG, the RPD is better than the 3rd LMG (m60?), most of the perks you get in the beginning are the best, with the exception of frag x3 and overkill if you want to snipe. I wish the later guns were MUCH better than the early ones so you really have something to look forward to. I guess the barret is worth the wait, and also the DE, but that's about it, IMHO. Now that I've unlocked everything, and completed most of the challenges, I find myself using stuff that I had when I was in the mid 20s. It does make prestige mode that much more appealing, though!

Haha I feel just the opposite about the M4 vs the G36... Guess its what you get use to. I played with an MP5 for the longest time, and I got use to how that "feels" so for me the G36 is similar but more accurate.

New favorite combo in longer maps is the gold shotgun and the G36. and if its a small and close map I like the gold shotgun with a silenced P90....

But I play way too aggressive... I just go in guns a blaze.... thats why my kill to death is piss poor. Oh well I have a blast!

PJ_Rage

12-10-07, 10:06 AM

Yeah the two things that tick me off about the G36 is that is takes 1-2 bullets more for a kill than the m4 (both with stopping power) when shooting at the chest, which is where I typically aim in close combat (inside) and those couple bullets seem to be the difference in me winning the encounter or losing it. And secondly, it has slightly more recoil such that long range shooting requires an extra "burst." For long range, I usually burst twice with the M4 with ~3-4 bullets each, and with the G36 I seem to need 3-4 bursts of 2-3 each because the 3rd/4th bullet of the burst seems to go rogue on me :p This usually means that the enemy can take me out before I can finish the last burst.

But ah well, maybe it's just me. I did the 3 marksman challenges with the g36 and got the digital camo, but stopped there. Maybe I'll give it another go and confirm! I could have just been on some laggy servers when I was using it.

_Avarice_

12-10-07, 10:31 AM

^^ That's odd, because the G36 is slightly more powerful than the M4 Carbine, before perks.

PJ_Rage

12-10-07, 10:38 AM

^^ That's odd, because the G36 is slightly more powerful than the M4 Carbine, before perks.That's exactly what I thought. I know my findings contradict the ratings that the game says each gun has, but I can't really explain it. Maybe it is due to the recoil, and bullets that would have hit with the M4 don't with the G36? I really don't get it, I just know that when I use the G36, people that definitely would have died with the M4 don't :p

Or maybe something is different in the way that the stopping power is applied (bug maybe?). Or just a rate of fire thing?

Or maybe I'm nuts :D

tokeydog

12-10-07, 10:45 AM

I think my style is different then most. I run with the G36C on "large maps" such as overgrown and then I choose between the M60 with Juggernaut or the AK-74u on the other maps depending on how I'm playing, how my team is playing, and how bad we are messing up the other team. On Vacant I like to run around inside with a shotty of some sort.

Some tips:
1. Always roam the outer portions of maps.
2. Stick with someone, but don't stay so close you hinder their movement.
3. Throw (preferably cooked) grenades in the general direction of enemies. The 3X Frag perk comes in handy here.
4. The biggest thing is find your play style if you like to run and gun up close than an SMG is your best bet. If you like to stay back, but still move forward then an Assault Rifle. etc...

rjsanc30

12-10-07, 10:50 AM

I as well am still in the process of finding a comfortable gaming style, tactical, run-n-gun, sniper....and getting use to the feel of my newly acquired weapons.

I generally find myself at the bottom or middle of the scoring list once a match is complete and again I notice that the top scores tend to have almost as many deaths as kills - 23 kills, 18 deaths or so, is this the how it's done, do you have to get almost as much as you give....gigity! I find a lot of my deaths occur by not being overly alert as to my surroundings - I'll be at a window with a clear line-of-sight at on-coming troops only to get hit from my flank, from a shooter with an even higher position. Or I'll encounter a foe on the streets, 15 feet away and by the time I get my weapon raised and fire I'm usually on the ground in last stand mode...damn my 32 year old reflexes:)

So I have a general questions for all pertaining to time played: Approximately how man hours has it taken you to reach your current rank? I'm barely at 11 (haven't logged much time, maybe 3.5+ hours) and I was just wondering how much effort people have put into this game - makes me wonder if my lack of skills at this point is due to: not enough practice, superior competition, not knowing/having the little nuances of the game or just plain sucking at this...maybe a mix of all:)

tokeydog

12-10-07, 10:53 AM

Conspiracy*

12-10-07, 11:11 AM

If you are horrible, try to think of all the things that you would consider "cheap" and do them until you get the hang of aiming and firing. Dont be ashamed to use martyrdom. Dont be ashamed to hang out and "camp" a good spot. After a while your k/d should climb and you'll get more confident in more "Skillful" situations.

The m4 carbine with the redscope is the 2nd most accurate gun in the game and theres almost no recoil. Try shooting small bursts of fire instead of holding down the button on people far away. Stopping power and martry

Learn how close is too close to aim. If you turn a corner and someone is in your face DO NOT hit L1 and chase them around zoomed in. just put your redicule on them and fire. At close range there is no need to zoom.

Until you're comfortable with headshots aim for the pelvis if someone is reletively close and the recoil will handle the rest.

If shooting at someone pretty far away, lead them with small bursts.

The G3 is the most accurate gun in the game, and with stopping power its pretty effective. If you can tap the fire button (its single shot) without spazzing out and moving your redicule its a very good weapon depending on the gametype. Its not a run and gun type of weapon because if you turn a corner on someone usually they'll get you before you can get them. I use it with stopping power or UAV jammer and steady shot or martyr

A lot of people like the mp5 and r90 Im not a fan of either one. The ak47u has awesome power and fires quickly enough to kill someone is 3 shots. I use it with stopping power and steady shot.

The M60 is my favorite heavy. I use it with stopping power and deep impact.
Again just with burst shots. With most guns it only takes a few bullets to get someone so holding down teh fire button is almsot useless, it only lets the people around you know where youre at.

Learn to cook grenades, dont give people time to run away from them. The redicule pulses 3 times before it blows up in your hand depending on how far you need to throw it, get the timing down.

Do be afraid to stab people. If youre running behind someone closely just stab em. Plus it makes them feel like an idiot when they watch the replay. Sometimes they'll hear you and make you feel like the idiot but hey its a game its supposed to be fun right?

I use claymores in all my loadouts. Even if you're in a firefight, dont be scared to lay some down. When running across a map just lay them in doorways so they arent visible from the front. You'll get 3-8 kills a game like that.

Basically dont act like a newb. Dont run straight forward unless you've looked around first. You dont have to act like a nerd peeking around every corner but know where you're at and where people are likely to be.

Conspiracy*

12-10-07, 11:17 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGT6Z-73LU4

Ok here is my boy Krill playing some COD4. He doesn't think he is a "great" player, but damn he does get the job done nicely. Videos aren't great since he uses a camcorder, but it does give you a feel for how someone else plays.

No offense but your boy is exactly why COD needs a mute button. :)

3 randomly thrown frags doesnt hurt. It helps to know where to put them.

See how he held onto the grenade before he tossed it? Thats what I mean by cooking it. He also zooms everytime he turns a corner, I usually dont zoom that much but it obviously is ok for him.

Its definately not the first time hes used the weapon, hes pretty familiar with it already.

tokeydog

12-10-07, 11:19 AM

No offense taken. Hell there are times where I just tell him to shut up. I barely get to say a word in most matches...

But come on he is funny :)

sssick

12-10-07, 02:18 PM

I thought I was the only one who did the Arnold chopper imitation....lol......"Look out, it's a choppa!!!"

Beguiler

12-10-07, 04:13 PM

rjsanc30

12-10-07, 04:40 PM

I have been playing shooters online from '99 on, and one thing I found that helps alot, and one thing that krill shows in his videos well, is, to relax and have fun. I know when I get upset and stressed, it affects me negatively in my playing. Of course, being good at a game helps you stay relaxed and confident, but I think it still applies as a general tip.

Good advice, but it's hard to stay positive and jovial when your getting your anous handed to you every few seconds:).

I can definitely see your point however, the first few times I played COD4 I wasn't worried about points, or weapons or anything other than paying the game and having a good time, now it's ranks and perks, attachments and so forth it's not nearly as enjoyable....then again I know I'd be having a much better time if I could just stay in the friggin fight more....killing is much more fun than dying:D

cdogg44

12-13-07, 11:43 PM

mmafightetnow

12-14-07, 01:40 AM

Follow your teammates, put claymores behind you. Never run and gun. Held up aims at every corner you turn. Watch your radar. Make sure you are body is partly behind cover.

Just pratice aiming. You will find your suitable gun !

If you need to know the map route, just go to private party, and walk around by yourself on the particular map you like.

I avoided night time maps ( my eye sucks), I avoid maps without high grounds.

PJ_Rage

12-14-07, 07:51 AM

Anybody ever get the feeling that they're killing you with half the hits it takes for you? Put 4 sniper rounds in a guy tonight...he lived. Emptied a clip on a guy in a room and he killed me easily.

I'm really starting to wonder if somethings up with my TV! Anybody else notice this?Are you sure every hit you are talking about is registering? Does your reticule change to indicate a hit and you hear each bullet hitting them? You could have a lag issue? Or they are hitting you in the head, in which case, they really are killing you with less bullets.

You also have to remember that some people use juggernaut too, and some people use stopping power, so it doesn't take the same amount of bullets, even with the same gun, to kill everyone. Every combination is a little different. If something seems fishy, watch the kill cam to see what perks they were using, and see if that sheds any light on it.

FWIW, I've found the lag management to be pretty bad. Even in the least lag, there is a little. ie, I'll have full green bars and not any really noticeable lag, but I'll KNOW I fired 3 3-round bursts at someone, the last burst I know were hits (never registered), then I die, and on kill cam, it shows my guy only shooting two three round bursts. Stuff like this seems to happen alot, but it happens to everyone, so I guess it evens out. You just have to be faster on the trigger than the next guy and "screw" them before they screw you ;):p I think the kill cam amplifies the lag, because you will see your character not firing shots that you know went off on your end. The lag probably isn't any worse than other games, but in other games, you just say "damn, I guess I missed, or he just got me!" and you don't have the chance to look at what they saw, which is you firing less than you thought.

NTKT10

12-14-07, 09:42 AM

Follow your teammates, put claymores behind you.Never run and gun. Held up aims at every corner you turn. Watch your radar. Make sure you are body is partly behind cover.

C'mon man, that's awful advice. Camping will not improve your game play and will earn you no respect from anybody decent. Running and gunning is probably the best way for someone starting out to speed up their aiming, reaction times, decision making, etc. The thing most campers lack is actual gun skills, if they can't get to their "spot" they have no chance.

My best advice is don't worry about your K/D ratio. Eventually you'll come around; a win/loss record or a k/d ratio is not always an accurate indicator of skill level. If you're playing headquarters, search and destroy or domination you could be going negative every game, but at the same time you could be planting bombs, taking flags/headquarters and helping your team win.

People have posted many good pointers already in this thread that should help you out. Good luck.

tokeydog

12-14-07, 09:54 AM

PJ_Rage

12-14-07, 10:24 AM

Feel free to camp! More easy kills for me! Snipers and campers are my favorite to kill. If you are smart and keep moving perpendicular to a camper with a few random stops and movement changes, all while shooting them, it is very hard for them to aim at you. And since the most likely reason they are camping in the first place is because they suck at aiming and playing in general, they are usually dead in the water. Or you can run by and throw a grenade at them. I love that move too.

Either way, I didn't take the "don't run and gun" as a camping statement. I thought he meant don't go out guns blazing and run into the middle of every battle so that you are everyone's target. Advance slowly, carefully, and tactically, watching every area and corner for the enemy. Basically, keep your guard up, and be smart.

gamelover360

12-14-07, 11:31 AM

I would say that the important things are
1) Get good at POV (Point of View) manipulation.

If you can't see the enemy you can't kill them. Practice taking the advantageous angle across a courtyard, or keeping your back half turned towards a building as you transverse an area. You should be always moving and adjusting your POV.

Generally you want to keep looking at "meaty" areas where there is a higher probability that some fresh meat may be wandering across. For example streets, alleys, etc. Don't creep around investigating every nook, cranny, and dark corner. Keep your eyes peeled on the high traffic areas.

Every now and the randomly turn and give a quick look behind you. You will now and then catch a glimpse of an enemy trying to sneek up on you, popping out into the street to cross it, etc.

Movement in COD4 is like a frenetic yet controlled dance.

2) Don't hesitate when you see an enemy. Practice QUICKLY bringing up your sights (sometimes also hold L3 to steady yourself) and getting some bullets in the air. Don't set up the perfect shot. Many times the mere fact of the bullets being fired in an enemies direction will suprise and disorient them somewhat. You can then adjust your aim midfire and train the bullet path into their chest region. This reactive fast twitch approach will get you killed sometimes by the supreme relaxed headshot masters, but so what....there gonna kill you anyway! This approach of being first to fire will build your confidence with kills against mid level abd noob players, and give you the critical practice you need on aiming as you fire.

3) Don't be afraid to die

Seek confrontation...go heads up...wild west draw style. Believe that you can be the fastest gun around. When you get killed let that fuel the bloodlust revenge in your gut and get out their looking for fresh meat.. Over time you will begin to grow stronger with each kill, and begin to crave that bullet burst leading to +5!

If your not dying your not playing. The vast majority of players die a lot. Don't get discouraged...get mad! Thats what I do. Thats the volume approach and it's a great one when you are just starting out. You will operate more on strategy with experience. For now just let your motto be: "You may kill me twice, but I'm gonna kill you at least once"

4) Know the boards. There are areas where the bullets fly more than others, and there are second floor windows and plenty of places to set up shop and go on a killing spree. Set up some claymores to protect your position, so you can snipe in relative calm.

5) Have fun! I know it's hard if your not having "success", but let it motivate you.

ashunte23

12-14-07, 11:48 AM

i die so many times from behind it's ridiculous, always take a quick look behind you

UNHClown

12-14-07, 12:06 PM

I started off quite slow probably with a K/D ratio of about .5 at 500-1000. I've progressed alot since then and now I'm practically 1:1 around 2500-2500 and I'm level 42 I think. I play predominantly Domination which doesn't really rely on K/D but I know how dying constantly can be frustrating. My one biggest tip has to be DO NOT CAMP. Even if you suck and that's the only way you get kills, resist the urge. Running and around and tossing grenades and flash/stun with gunfire is the only way you'll get better.

USE YOUR FLASH/STUN/GRENADE LAUNCHER/RPG etc. Alot of people don't fully use all their perks. I'd also recommend playing team games like HQ and Domination so you can gain points without relying on kills. There are many ways to help your team, not just going on killing sprees. (although they help!)

Good luck and have fun.

Kevin12586

12-14-07, 01:16 PM

PENDRAG0ON

12-14-07, 02:27 PM

I play one on one split screen with my neighbor quite often and he seems to get more than his fair share of kills at times. He is really good as a sniper with the M21 (often I can't even see myself on the killcam) He camps in hard to return fire areas and also likes to use power weapons like the Saw and the M16 on occasion. I have tried several different weapons, but split screen is very limited in what you can choose as it has pre built loadouts that can't be customized. Any advise on how to deal with him more effectively?

I only play multi when he comes over to visit and am mostly a single player person, so I have to use single player to practice with weapons. His favorite map is the bog and I can never beat him when on that map for some reason. Again, he loves to camp and often moves to a new spot with each kill and then waits for me to come to him (again, in a hard to shoot spot). The problem is the radar is always on in one on one split screen and there is no way to sneak up on anyone.

mmafightetnow

12-14-07, 03:01 PM

I like to camp, because most of people will run and gun, you can just wait for them to show up to be killed :)

Place claymore behind you.

Dolomite1911

12-19-07, 12:45 PM

A ton of solid advice here.

Thanks to the OP for this post - and thanks to the people that pointed out that you have to relax and have fun playing CoD4 online (took me a long time to learn that).

I'm gonna hit Level 55 this week (after 2+ days of playing time, that's how bad I suck) - and I'm 95% sure I will not be starting over with prestige mode.

My little tidbit of advice to everyone (both newb's and snake eaters) would be this: When rocking the mic - Be cool to everybody.

macd23

12-19-07, 12:47 PM

jzinckgra

12-19-07, 12:56 PM

PJ_Rage

12-19-07, 01:48 PM

So I am better than awful, but still not where I'd love to be (1.0 KDR or higher)....I am stuck at .59 KDR right now....Been trying to get .60 for awhile now....Can't seem to get over the hill...........Some games I do well and my KDR is 1.0 or higher, but then I revert into a really sloppy round and destroy my KDR........I think one problem I have is I'm too impatient and I get bored so I run into the open at times when I shouldn't and get mowed down.

Do you guys find martyrdom or last stand is more effective in getting kills after you 'die'?If you are having trouble maintaining a KDR above 1, definitely martyrdom. If you get very good with aim, you probably have just as good if not better chance with last stand. The problem with last stand is that most people make sure to finish you off. With martyrdom, even though people know to run away, sometimes it is tight and/or they get stuck. Also, if you martyr in a HQ base or a domination zone, it can be really helpful and can result in a couple kills.

macd23

12-19-07, 02:22 PM

I assume martyrdom works well against those who knife u as well? I know I've been killed by martyrs after I knife em from behind.

cadbury8

12-19-07, 02:23 PM

My problem is aiming. I've tried different sensitivity settings (currently on 5), but my aim still sucks. I'll be running around, see a guy, but since it takes very little movement of sticks to line up the perfect shot, I usually get killed 1st. My crosshairs go wildly all over the place when I panic. The only time I can get a decent shot, is by stopping, then very slowly move the right stick to aim, push L1 to bring up the sight, then fire. Way too slow though. I'm so used to the PC FPS games, where you only had 4 keys to move forward, back, left, right. With the sixaxis, there's 360 degrees of movement on both sticks and that's what I'm having a prob with.

it takes lots of practice. just keep playing. the more you play the better you will get. I just played prey online the other night and i got totally pawned (i guess thats the word now). I coulnt line up a shot. I was just the free frag running around. I did off at least one guy though. hehehe. that made me feel a little better. it takes time to get use to a controller. i figure it will take me at least a year before i can hold my own using a controller. I kind of felt bad playing because of not being good and an easy kill as that really isnt fun for the other guys. I mean here comes the newb again. bang hes dead. thats just not fun. After i get used to a controller i will return though. :)

DJSirReal

12-19-07, 02:38 PM

PJ_Rage

12-19-07, 03:35 PM

One of the best pieces of advice I've received is to trade out your pistol for another weapon as soon as it's safe to do so. Then when in a heated fire fight, instead of reloading it's faster to change to the other weapon. It helped me increase my scores on headquarters and domination maps by quite a bit.Yeah I definitely highly recommend doing that.

As far as aiming goes, if you are having trouble. Try getting the "coarse" adjustment with the right stick (your general aiming stick) and then see if you can get the left/right and some other fine adjustments by moving your character around with the left stick. I do this all the time and the benefits for me are two fold. 1) I'm a harder target because I'm moving. 2) I'm able to line up my aim much faster because I essentially am only aiming the up/down using the right stick (and a coarse left/right adjustment) and finishing the aim using the left stick. If you are having trouble, see if that helps. I routinely use both sticks simultaneously to aim.

Martyr seems to work pretty good on people who knife, yeah. Alot of people don't get the heck out after a knifing. I typically don't get caught, because when I knife someone, I get up behind them, knife, then SPRINT ASAP out of there, assuming they have martyr. If you assume everyone has it, then you don't have to worry. Have your escape plan in mind before you attack :) I almost always use martyr, and I have to say, out of everyone who knifes me, it used to be around 50% of the time martyr would get them, but it is much lower than even 25% now, because everyone is catching on.

macd23

12-19-07, 04:23 PM

Anyone reccomend where to find alternative weapons? Aside from dead guys' bodies obviously.......A few times I've completely run out of ammo (SAW LMG) when I am entrenched in a good hiding spot and have run around endlessly looking for another weapon.

Cucuy

12-19-07, 07:32 PM

diat150

12-19-07, 08:16 PM

my favorite combination of weapons is the rpd with the grip and the g36 with the grenade launcher. you can tear people up with those two weapons. the rpd is much more accurate with the grip, and with 200 rounds you dont have to worry about reloading. it is also powerful enough to knock down a chopper. I can usuaaly take down a chopper with 1 full clip. I just started the first prestige level so i lost all of my weapons unfortunately. I usually use the uav jammer as a perk.

macd23

12-19-07, 11:28 PM

Tried the M4 for the first time tonight...Wow, that thing has almost ZERO recoil!!!! I like it, gonna see if this helps improve my KDR....

Rieper

12-19-07, 11:41 PM

Drewbert

12-20-07, 02:47 AM

Thanks for the good tips to all. This is my first FPS ever so it is taking me a while to get a good kill/death ratio. I have just unclocked the red dot and it did make a big difference like it has been pointed out. Can you use that on any weapon?

Also there are a few things that I am not sure. Can someone please clarify?

When the UAV is called do you appear as a dot only if you are firing? So if you are not firing you are invisible? What if you have a silencer and are firing?
Are you detected with UAV?

Can the claymores be detected and shot at? (I don't have them yet but just wondering)

I noticed that when I fire at someone at long distances I always get killed from who I am firing at from that same long distance. I am assumming it is because they have better weapons for long distance. Or maybe I suck at aiming far away targets.

Dont worry about your kill to death ratio, just have fun! I enjoy running and gunning, so mines at a .85... haha
Each gun you pick you have to kill count to 25 to unlock the red dot sight.
When an enemy calls in their UAV, then yes you will be a red dot on their map.
You will show up as a red dot on their map if you are shooting.... a silencer stops that, but you will still show up with a UAV
There is also a UAV jammer perk, but I still feel stopping power or more health is a better option.
There is a claymore and c4 detection perk... otherwise they cannot be seen.
If you shoot at someone at long distances, and they kill you, see what they did... watch the kill cam. Did they lock on to you first, then shoot? Or were you out gunned, or even out perked? :cool:

BTW what gun and perk combo are you using?

Hope this helps!

diat150

12-20-07, 10:57 AM

another thing that i try and do, since airstrikes and choppers add up your kills pretty good, once i get up to 3 kills, I try and sneak around a little more to get the 2 kills for the airstrike. I then hide out and try and get the 2 kills for the helicopter with the airstrike.

khowe22

12-20-07, 11:16 AM

i find several servings of my favorite malt beverage seem to help out with the pains of epic COD4 suckage...

gamelover360

12-20-07, 11:37 AM

Tried the M4 for the first time tonight...Wow, that thing has almost ZERO recoil!!!! I like it, gonna see if this helps improve my KDR....

Try the perk "Double tap"! It increases the fire rate! The gun just blazes with near zero recoil.

HeadRusch

12-20-07, 11:59 AM

Auditor_Kevin

12-20-07, 12:13 PM

Uh, you guys realize there is such a thing as a realm BETWEEN "run and gun" and CAMPING right? :P

Its called "tactical movement"....sticking with a team of guys, someone covers the rear at all times..etc.

Of course in this game its somewhat of a waste of time because you can move so quickly at all times without tiring......IMHO if you want that kind of play stick to Vegas or GRAW.

Just don't make the mistake I see all the time - two guys traveling together, then when they encounter an enemy instead of fanning out they line up like baby ducks and get taken out in about two seconds because the enemy hardly has to move the gun.

I also hate it when teammates linger in doorways, jamming it for me when I'm trying to hustle through and stay out of someone else's sights.

Beguiler

12-20-07, 03:43 PM

macd23

12-20-07, 03:46 PM

You can spot enemy claymores. You have to keep your eyes peeled and look for the two laser lines coming off of them. Your teams claymores will have an icon over them, and you wont trip them. If you spot the claymores before getting to close, you can either shoot them to get them to detonate, or toss a flashbang at em. Watch for them on the other side of doors or at the top of ladders or around flags in domination. Real tough to spot at the top of ladders though. I sure hate hearing that click, but I have been lucky enough to run past them before they blow a few times.

I hate the way they implemented this..I wish there was a way that the opposing team's claymores would appear red to you, and your teams claymores would appear green or something. I always have to pause it and see which team (icon) I am on for the given game.

diat150

12-20-07, 05:38 PM

I hate the way they implemented this..I wish there was a way that the opposing team's claymores would appear red to you, and your teams claymores would appear green or something. I always have to pause it and see which team (icon) I am on for the given game.

I dont think the opponents has the icon sticking up. at least ive never seen it. i can differentiate between the two pretty easily .

SamuraiXmas

12-20-07, 06:18 PM

The best advice for avoiding the random nades is sticking close to walls. Unless a guy has a bead on you anyway (and thus could shoot you) his nades are probably not going to land against the wall anyway (why nade when you can shoot?). Whenever I see that little nade icon, I immediately sprint in the opposite direction, and it saves me 90% of the time.

What truly sucks is the grenade launcher. You have no options when it comes to it because A: You'll never see it coming and B: It's instant death.

I'm running short on time right now, but the second tip I could give is to avoid going head to head with other players. It's makes much more sense to pilfer other peoples kills (since the guy is distracted fighting the other guy) than to shoot at the best player alive and have him turn and no-scope headshot you with the sniper rifle. Is it cheap? Maybe. Does it work? Absolutely.

tokeydog

12-21-07, 12:01 PM

This is a slight rant/info...

I hate the way this game is being taken. Lately the majority of my matches have been camp fest type of games by people. By camp fest I mean barricade most of your team in the second level of a building and placing claymores and waiting at the stairs and windows. I ran into this a ton last night.

First off don't do this. It slows things down in a game really designed for quick action and really hinders your own team. Here is the EASY strategy for fighting it. Cook your grenade while hidden around a corner just near the window. When cooked toss grenade into window for instant multi kills.

41-9 with this...

PJ_Rage

12-21-07, 12:54 PM

HeadRusch

12-21-07, 01:13 PM

Well, this is what happens with FPS's....you learn how to exploit the map design. Stairs are a natural chokepoint if you can't deform the environment (Blow up floors, etc).

tokeydog

12-21-07, 01:57 PM

Sounds like you need a different game type. Headquarters is AWESOME. It is nuts with everyone trying to get to the HQ. I really like it alot and I'll never go back to boring team deathmatch. Domination is OK, but I still like HQ much much better.

Yea think I'm gonna have to start playing with out my friends every so often. They only play TDM. I like HQ, but I tend to die right when we capture a point.

IhateBestBuy

12-21-07, 04:21 PM

i suck at this game so bad....resistance wasnt this bad....

diat150

12-21-07, 10:39 PM

they have a game coming out that will have destructible houses and such during network play. check it out. this will be a must buy for me. Ive been waiting for something like this.

http://ps3.ign.com/articles/842/842292p1.html

arango1

12-21-07, 10:48 PM

Look man, I am 38 yrs old trying to keep up with the freaking 12yr olds(although I don't know why the parents are letting them play this) and I am a hair over .500... so I'd say I am not good either but I am having alot of fun!

If I make it to 3rd or 4th place on any game (HQ, domination) I am happy and most importantly, having fun.

PJ_Rage

12-22-07, 12:37 PM

HQ is great. You don't need a "great" team or great teamwork to really have a sense of teamwork and objective. It is such a great mode!

Drewbert

12-22-07, 01:53 PM

I only play HQ and hardcore....

Most of the time the people that play actually care about playing. No talking about bullcrap which is great!
Its nice to hear, " I got lit up, and the guy is up the stairs behind the bookcase" as opposed to random chatter about nothing.

The hardcore with no HUD, friendly fire on, and more weapon damage is FUN.

arango1

12-24-07, 09:34 AM

31 yrs old here, and I'm rocking the snot out of the young punks on COD4 Free-for-all deathmatch.

I'm 300 kills over deaths. Strictly mano-a-mano deathmatch. None of that team based crap.

However, it is getting boring just killing left and right with no objective...so I might try my hand at COD4 Headquarters this week instead.

My handle is nofear4u.

Cool, I'll look out for you... my handle is supergato.

Rambler358

12-24-07, 12:52 PM

How does one get infinite ammo in this game, and what mode(s) (compaign, onine, etc) is it available in? Still somewhat of a noob in trying to learn this game, thanks!

diceburna

12-24-07, 06:03 PM

PJ_Rage

12-24-07, 06:15 PM

diceburna

12-24-07, 10:03 PM

For online or for SP?

Both

MysterD

12-25-07, 12:27 AM

i really suck at this. my K/d ratio is 46/217. all these guys have badarse weapons and my ish is weak compared to them. What can i do to get the weapons with the copious supply of ammo?

Drewbert

12-25-07, 12:37 AM

So how do you kick a player? I see that come up on the info portion of the screen... some of these people who just talk the whole time... its horrible

imdjenk

12-25-07, 01:53 PM

Cucuy

12-26-07, 02:01 AM

Dont worry about your kill to death ratio, just have fun! I enjoy running and gunning,

Yeah I shuold do that. That is the whole point of the videogames. I like running and gunning too. It just sucks to be on the bottom half all the time. :) I guess my limited won't allow for enough practice to keep up with the top players. As long as I kill some and I have fun shuold do it

BTW what gun and perk combo are you using?

Hope this helps!

Yeah thanks it helps. I haven't settled down on what perks work best for me but I end up using martyr and x3 granades more often than the others. I think I will try steady aim to improve my non-zoom aim. Overall my aiming is pretty bad.

PJ_Rage

12-26-07, 08:11 AM

i really suck at this. my K/d ratio is 46/217. all these guys have badarse weapons and my ish is weak compared to them. What can i do to get the weapons with the copious supply of ammo?The M16 that you start with is one of the best guns in the game! The M4 you unlock soon after and it IS the best gun in the game. The problem isn't the guns, it is that you need some practice!

You start with PLENTY of ammo. Especially if you are a noob and not living very long ;) I didn't start finding myself running out of ammo until I started living long enough to kill enough people that I run out. If you are running out and not having a K/D ratio above 3-4:1, then you need to work on your accuracy ;)

If you must, though, you can pick up the other "better" guns you see on the ground and try your luck. You won't unlock the challenges for them, though, which will cause you to level up slower. You can also just swap guns for the same gun (or another you have unlocked) if you are low on ammo.

deecee20

12-26-07, 11:52 AM

Hey guys, how does the PS3 controller work for aiming and such? I'm a longtime online PC gamer (Counterstrike was my game), so mouse and keyboard is natural to me, and it would seem that you'd be able to aim much more accurately with a mouse. Can you pull off long distance shots with the controller?

PJ_Rage

12-26-07, 07:12 PM

TheShizzo

12-26-07, 07:28 PM

No offense taken. Hell there are times where I just tell him to shut up. I barely get to say a word in most matches...

But come on he is funny :)

Yeah, when he said "suck my shillelagh" I just about lost it.

Rambler358

12-27-07, 04:09 PM

The m4 carbine with the redscope is the 2nd most accurate gun in the game and theres almost no recoil.
And what's the most accurate?

tokeydog

12-27-07, 04:10 PM

And what's the most accurate?

Isn't it the G3?

PJ_Rage

12-27-07, 04:16 PM

Isn't it the G3?Yeah, I believe so.

rjsanc30

12-27-07, 05:31 PM

Man, ill recommend that everyone whether noob or prestige get their hands on the COD4 strategy guide. Looks like they've got in touch w/ Sea Snipers from back in the good ole socom days and have put it out an excellent thats well worth the $15 theyre charging.
^^^
This post didn't get any type of a response so I was wondering how many people actually own the strategy guide...I received a $15 gift card to BB from a secret santa at work....worth using it on the guide?

Thanks guys

Rambler358

12-27-07, 05:37 PM

^^^
I received a $15 gift card to BB from a secret santa at work....worth using it on the guide?
That depends... How much are you getting your a$$ shot off? :D I'd probably spend it on a new game.

WhoMe14

12-27-07, 06:47 PM

I'm just ok and I'm having a hard time going from ok to good. I just cant make those small corrections while aiming. Im pissed about it lol. But the game is fun enough for me to keep trying.

rjsanc30

12-27-07, 06:48 PM

That depends... How much are you getting your a$$ shot off? :D I'd probably spend it on a new game.

I am getting better with ever match, I'm still no ace but I'm finally starting to hold my own, at least a little:). I honestly don't think the strategy guide can cure most of the ailments thatare causing people to suck at COD4 (including myself) - I was more interested in the maps/layouts, personally I think thats the biggest plus of this particular guide.

This gift card is only $15 and it's like found money to me; also the fact is I just don't need or really want to start another game at this point: Uncharted, R:FOM, COD4, Assassins Creed...(just to name a few) are keeping me quite busy, I was just hoping the solicit some opinions about the SG.

Rambler358

12-27-07, 06:53 PM

I honestly don't think the strategy guide can cure most of the ailments thatare causing people to suck at COD4 (including myself)
I believe you're right. I think one just needs to get the hang of the controller, and practice...

I was more interested in the maps/layouts, personally I think thats the biggest plus of this particular guide.
That might be worth it in itself. Spending time learning the map layouts during game play might distract you enough to get shot. :eek:

PJ_Rage

12-27-07, 07:29 PM

I'm just ok and I'm having a hard time going from ok to good. I just cant make those small corrections while aiming. Im pissed about it lol. But the game is fun enough for me to keep trying.There are definitely some times where you need small corrections... but there are alot of times where you can make those corrections by strafing. Try it out. Strafing makes for small aim adjustments and may be just what you need :)

diceburna

12-27-07, 08:15 PM

^^^
This post didn't get any type of a response so I was wondering how many people actually own the strategy guide...I received a $15 gift card to BB from a secret santa at work....worth using it on the guide?

Thanks guys

All I know is that before I got the guide....I always ran around w/ my M16 (which is not bad, but not effective at every map) and the highest kill streak I'll get is 3 which only got me the radar. But to be honest I got better b/c of the maps. The maps are by sea snipers which back in the day were the top clan in Socom, I wasn't apart of their clan but man I had alot of respect for them. Mainly b/c they created maps for each board on their website and what was sick is that you could edit them and make markings on where you want to ambush, defend, camp, etc. You can probably search online for maps or waste ur time playing each map over and over again. But for everyone I think this SG is a great reference tool and its only $15 @ BB.

wolfgaze

12-27-07, 08:23 PM

Quick question... new PS3 owner here... My roommate just bought COD4 and he was telling me there's 2 player mode... Is that Co-Op or no?

rjsanc30

12-27-07, 10:20 PM

All I know is that before I got the guide....I always ran around w/ my M16 (which is not bad, but not effective at every map) and the highest kill streak I'll get is 3 which only got me the radar. But to be honest I got better b/c of the maps. The maps are by sea snipers which back in the day were the top clan in Socom, I wasn't apart of their clan but man I had alot of respect for them. Mainly b/c they created maps for each board on their website and what was sick is that you could edit them and make markings on where you want to ambush, defend, camp, etc. You can probably search online for maps or waste ur time playing each map over and over again. But for everyone I think this SG is a great reference tool and its only $15 @ BB.

Thanks to all who posted on the SG subject.

I'm not holding my breath that this or any other guide is going to improve my overall play, I think as posted only time and practice will do that but as I mentioned at least it can help out with general map awareness. Thanks again.

impetigo

12-27-07, 11:02 PM

Quick question... new PS3 owner here... My roommate just bought COD4 and he was telling me there's 2 player mode... Is that Co-Op or no?

No coop in the single-player game unfortunately.

PJ_Rage

12-28-07, 07:31 AM

All I know is that before I got the guide....I always ran around w/ my M16 (which is not bad, but not effective at every map) and the highest kill streak I'll get is 3 which only got me the radar. But to be honest I got better b/c of the maps. The maps are by sea snipers which back in the day were the top clan in Socom, I wasn't apart of their clan but man I had alot of respect for them. Mainly b/c they created maps for each board on their website and what was sick is that you could edit them and make markings on where you want to ambush, defend, camp, etc. You can probably search online for maps or waste ur time playing each map over and over again. But for everyone I think this SG is a great reference tool and its only $15 @ BB.I beg to differ.. the M16 is a great gun for all maps. It's very accurate, mobile, and deadly.

It does sound like the guide has some purpose for people who are not familiar with the maps. I've played long enough now that I know them all very well, but for people just starting off, a detailed overhead would be very helpful.

Rieper

12-28-07, 11:33 AM

If you're having trouble with the multiplayer online gaming (ie. you die a lot because you don't know your way around the maps), just go on youtube and type COD4 maps. Something should come up that will help you, and it don't cost nutin'.

tokeydog

12-28-07, 12:17 PM

Note: Oh god I might be getting this confused with other games. I haven't played COD4 in a week and well I have horrible 5 second memory... maybe not.

May I suggest if you want to get to really know the maps, spend some time in them on private servers. Just by yourself. I find that occasionally in most FPS games a stroll through every nook and cranny of a map is very helpful.

Drewbert

12-28-07, 02:22 PM

I asked before and didnt get an answer.

How do you kick a player? I have seen '*** player kicked" on the info part at the bottom left.... but how?

tokeydog

12-28-07, 02:43 PM

I asked before and didnt get an answer.

How do you kick a player? I have seen '*** player kicked" on the info part at the bottom left.... but how?

Hmm that is interesting. There is no "vote to kick" or anything that I can think of, but of course I too darn busy trying to kick the butts of opposing players. It could be some sort of built in rule (and ah I just remembered in mid thought what it is!!!!)

It is a built in rule. If a player is inactive (doesn't move) for a fixed period of time in an actual game they are booted from the server.

pHaZmaTis

12-29-07, 12:00 AM

I have heard that if you are host you can kick a player. I do not know because to my knowledge I have never been the host. Apparently the only way to tell is (in game)when you go to change your weapons, there will be a "kick player" option. This is strictly here say. I have heard this from a few different players.
Before I heard that I just always assumed it was someone who went over the tk limit, or just had a connection failure.
Phaz.

PJ_Rage

12-29-07, 12:18 PM

I've been host and looked there for that option thinking it might be there, but I didn't see it.

I'll look again though.. maybe they recently added it?

brakel

12-29-07, 12:37 PM

I thought that was just in the private rooms.

brakel

12-29-07, 12:40 PM

And speaking of private rooms...a great way to explore a level is to setup a private room for yourself and just look around. Check out the areas that people have used to gun you down and see what the site lines are. See the areas where you can sneak up behind them. It's also a little spooky walking around in those levels all by yourself...kind of an Omega Man or 28 Days Later kind of a fell to it! :)

PJ_Rage

12-29-07, 01:54 PM

All this talk of maps and stuff... You guys do know that the HUD is more than just red dots right? It shows the layout of the area around you... buildings, etc. Also, if you press start, you can see the entire map at once.

Auditor_Kevin

12-30-07, 12:10 AM

Can anyone help me out with the friends invite for this game? My buddy and I kept sending each other invites and neither one could see them or get plugged into the other's game. We couldn't even get it to the point where we could at least try to get in the others game and it would read "game full".

Can two people get hooked up into the same ranked game? Or can you only do this whole convoluted friends invite in non-ranked user created games??

Drewbert

12-30-07, 10:10 AM

Jeffie

12-30-07, 09:25 PM

William Mapstone

12-30-07, 09:41 PM

^yup, anyone without a 5.1 system is at a disadvantage. I can hear people coming around corner, etc....

Cyborg6971

12-31-07, 12:09 AM

How come no one comes on my people met online will not register anyone that I have met on cod?

BIGDINZ

12-31-07, 04:44 PM

How come no one comes on my people met online will not register anyone that I have met on cod?

Because it isn't functional yet. It is supposed to be included in the next patch.

BMLocal175

12-31-07, 07:58 PM

The back of the game says 1080p support but the game plays at 720p. Is this the resolution you must play at? My TV is 1080p by the way. The PS3 menu area is in 1080p then when the game starts it goes to 720p. Also the disc that came with all the movie and game previews shows at 720p and stereo sound.:eek: Thought they would at least show them at 1080p.

How can you turn the volume off for in game chat? I have some kids in the house and even though they are not watching you can hear the f bomb once in awhile echo through the house.

Other than that, great game and I might say I have to get use to the gamepad again. I'm use to PC gaming with keyboard and mouse and trying to move around is a little frustrating not to mention aiming. Does everyone use the default settings for buttons and controller set up?

brakel

01-01-08, 01:34 PM

How can you turn the volume off for in game chat? I have some kids in the house and even though they are not watching you can hear the f bomb once in awhile echo through the house.

Turn the volume down on chat in options? Alternatively you could hook up a headset and then just not wear it.

Kevin12586

01-01-08, 03:01 PM

I hope someone can help me and tell me what the problem is. I bought COD4 last week and so far have been unable to get online with it. I get online with Motorstorm just fine but I get stuck at the 'downloading game settings' screen in COD4.

I downloaded the latest update for COD4 and my PS3 is fully up to date as well, any ideas?

Thanks

rjsanc30

01-01-08, 03:21 PM

I hope someone can help me and tell me what the problem is. I bought COD4 last week and so far have been unable to get online with it. I get online with Motorstorm just fine but I get stuck at the 'downloading game settings' screen in COD4.

Sounds as if it maybe a port issue or perhaps a firewall conflict - have you checked these as the possible bottleneck? What NAT setting are you using?

PJ_Rage

01-01-08, 03:52 PM

Turn the volume down on chat in options? Alternatively you could hook up a headset and then just not wear it.I have the voice volume at zero and I still hear everyone. I guess it isn't for chat. I didn't see a chat volume.

When people get on my nerves I just activate the headset and don't wear it.

They are adding a mute feature in the upcoming patch, though.

Kevin12586

01-01-08, 05:44 PM

Sounds as if it maybe a port issue or perhaps a firewall conflict - have you checked these as the possible bottleneck? What NAT setting are you using?

That is weird, I did change settings a few weeks ago and everything worked fine with Motorstorm, I opened ports hoping to help with my mic problems.

I just reset back to default settings with the router and I can now get online with COD4.

Time to take my a** whipping like a man until I get up to speed :D

If you guys see me online, Logan00, I will be the one being used as target practice ;)

rjsanc30

01-01-08, 09:38 PM

That is weird, I did change settings a few weeks ago and everything worked fine with Motorstorm, I opened ports hoping to help with my mic problems.

I just reset back to default settings with the router and I can now get online with COD4.

Time to take my a** whipping like a man until I get up to speed :D

If you guys see me online, Logan00, I will be the one being used as target practice ;)

Nice to hear that you got your connection back-up and running.

Don't fret to much over your early game play - practice, practice, practice and you'll be fine. Ive been playing on-line for a little over a month now, I've logged about 9.5 hrs thus far and last evening was the first match (playing ground war) I won - I know, I know guys I suck so there's no need to point it out:). I've scored close to the top on a few occasions but I was also just shy or more often at the bottom/middle of the list.

Seems that every match I get into these days is littered with players who's ranks are well above 40, so don't get to discouraged if your getting owned at first, still a fun a$$ game and your gain experience with every match. I'll keep an eye out for you:)

Kevin12586

01-02-08, 08:57 AM

Played last night for about 3 hours, still got a lot to learn but I am getting better. I went from getting 1 or 2 kills to having a high of 15 kills in a match (it may not be much to you guys but it put a smile on my face ;) )

I don't getting killed a lot as long as I learn from my mistakes which I began to do ;)

Conspiracy*

01-02-08, 11:19 AM

Maybe I'll set up a room later tonight or we can get something scheduled so that some new people can play with some more experience people and get/give tips.

I always have maps memorized after a few hours of playing. I think it helps if you watch someone else playing and watch where they are going watch the map on the radar and so on.

I have a buddy who loves the game but he is absoulutely horrible at it. He was at the house the other day and goes..."Oh man how do you lay down like that?!" "How do you get that map up? whats it doing? Oh thats an airstrike?!" Hes logged like 30 hours on the game and never seen an airstrike, he stops moving when he zooms, it was pretty sad.

rjsanc30

01-02-08, 11:49 AM

I have a buddy who loves the game but he is absoulutely horrible at it. He was at the house the other day and goes..."Oh man how do you lay down like that?!" "How do you get that map up? whats it doing? Oh thats an airstrike?!" Hes logged like 30 hours on the game and never seen an airstrike, he stops moving when he zooms, it was pretty sad.

HA....sounds like my buddy Phil.

He's a huge COD4 fanatic as well, with probably 2 or 3 days worth of time logeed and man is he horrible. I've tried to explain a few things, like not camping so damn much, use your grenades more, strafe, watch the radar, stop using the sniper rifles because you suck at them...things like that but for what ever reason he's no better now than when we started, oh well at least I get plenty of kills when ever we play against each other - I'm no ace but compared to him I'm John Rambo!

Out of the most minor respect for his beleaguered abilities I'll be keeping his psn name to myself, thus avoiding him any more embarrassment:)

PJ_Rage

01-02-08, 12:33 PM

I think some people just get it and others just don't.

People who have played a bit of FPS games before seem to get it the most. Especially if you played a good amount of games like counter-strike.

What has been getting my goat lately with COD4 is the lag. Not like people warping lag, but like, some of the bullets not registering lag. For example, I'll KNOW I emptied most of a clip and missed, but I know that my last few bullets were hitting the target exactly - enough to kill them. But then I die. WTF? I watch the replay cam, and even though on my screen I was reloading when I died, in the cam, my guy is still shooting! It's like I was reigistered dead on his side before I was on mine. This happens alot I think, and most of the time people don't even notice it - probably because you did it to the other person ;) But it seems that there is always that little bit of lag. That's why it's so important that you get the jump. It does also seem to happen more on some servers than others, regardless of if my ping is green or not. It can happen with full green ping. But on other servers it doesn't seem to happen at all! On those servers, I CLEAN UP soooo much. It's like I'm used to playing with it and when I don't have it, I'm so much better.

Try it out for yourself though. It's easy with a gun like the m16. Count how many bursts you fire at the target. Then, when you die, watch how many bursts the game actually registered before you die. You will have fired something like 5 bursts, but when you watch yourself in the killcam, you only see your guy shoot 3 or 4 bursts.

I also notice on the killcam that sometimes I appear on people's screens before they appear on mine. Like, I'll be looking straight ahead out of a doorway, and see someone round the corner and start shooting. Then I die, watch the kill cam, and I can see my guy on their screen while they are standing in a position that I know I would have seen them in, only I never saw them in that position. They were a little closer when I actually saw them.

The killcam reveals little things like that, that bug me sometimes. To be fair, though, I only ever watch the killcam when I'm like WTF??? HOW THE HELL!!! So I guess I only have a representative of the "bad stuff" and not so much of the 99% of the time it is probably normal :p Either that, or the other 99% of the time, the other guy is watching the killcam going WTF!!

bcrossan7

01-02-08, 12:37 PM

PJ_Rage

01-02-08, 12:50 PM

As far as the kill cam, I think the angle there is slightly different than what you see when you actually play because I know exactly what you mean by people "appearing" from a door way or somethingOh yeah, I know, but I mean, based on their x,y,z location that I'm seeing in the killcam, I know that I WOULD have seen them, but I just didn't until they were at a different x,y,z location. It's like the server didn't let my game know where he was before it let him know where I was, if that makes sense. This is more rare than the other situation I mentioned, though. That only happens (to the point that I notice it) every few hours or so.

We're only talking a couple 50 milliseconds difference or something in some of these cases, but that's all it takes in a competitive game where it doesn't take much to kill someone.

I don't know how many of you would have played both the original rainbow six (or rogue spear) and counter-strike (half-life), but if you ever played the original rainbow six online (or rogue spear), you might know that the lag control was terrible. It REALLY depended on your ping/connection. The better your ping/connection, the better you were, it was that simple. Hosts usually had a huge advantage because of this. But, when I switched to CS, I noticed that their lag control was MUCH better. Skill was pretty much independent of ping/connection. Someone with a 50ms ping had as good a chance as someone with a 200ms ping, because the game controlled the differences really well (somehow).

COD4 online seems to be more reminiscent of the R6/RS lag control than of the CS lag control. Not nearly as bad/sensitive as the R6/RS was, but not quite as good as CS was either, IMO. I don't know what the technical reasons are for all of this, it's just what I've noticed over the years. Out of 10, I would give R6/RS a 4, whereas CS would be a 9.5. I would give COD4 an 8. As far as lag control goes.

coolice

01-02-08, 03:47 PM

markettymer

01-02-08, 03:48 PM

The other thing I would recommend is the Fragfx controller. Its more like the mouse / keyboard combo most PC shooter fans are used to. The mouse doens't seem to be as precise as a PC game mouse setup but for me it was a big improvement over the sixaxis for shooter games. I was ready to dump COD4 because I sucked so bad. I still suck but at least now I get 11-15 kills most games with the occaisional 20+ kill game. I now can't get enough of this game. I'd strongly recommend the fragfx for pc shooter fans who can't get used to the controller.

psn: thr1ll k1ll

parboy

01-02-08, 04:11 PM

I have problem where I can not join free for all with my brother.
I tried to invited my brother and once he is my party, I started to look for game. But we just sit in the wating room and waiting for players.
What do I have to do play in free for all with my bro?

You can't join a free for all game with 2 people in your party. You will need to just join a free for all game, then send an invite to your friend once you are in the lobby of the game about to start.

Iguana

01-02-08, 04:14 PM

Cucuy

01-02-08, 04:21 PM

Seems that every match I get into these days is littered with players who's ranks are well above 40, so don't get to discouraged if your getting owned at first, still a fun a$$ game and your gain experience with every match. I'll keep an eye out for you:)

Does any one how the matchmaking works in this game. I sure hope it is not just based on ranking since sometimes there are players with low rankings who always score in the top. Perhaps they have played before other similar games and can pick it up faster.

It would be great if they had a more sophisticated matchmaking system that would pair you up with people whose skill is similar to yours (i.e k/d ratio, total kills total deaths, etc). I know this would be great for us first time FPS'ers and it would make the game more balanced. It is still a great game but these little things add to the experience

coolice

01-02-08, 04:56 PM

You can't join a free for all game with 2 people in your party. You will need to just join a free for all game, then send an invite to your friend once you are in the lobby of the game about to start.

Thanks. I guess I have to be quick to send invitation since I tried to do that but game gets full very quick. Is there trick to invite fast?

PJ_Rage

01-02-08, 10:08 PM

Another tip for you guys...

Something that has been working out better and better for me lately.

If you are in a firefight, and it isn't going your way, GET THE HELL OUT OF THERE!

Seriously, turn, and run.. Forget about that guy on the balcony, forget about that guy crouching 200 yards away with an m16 vs your mp5. Don't stay for fights that you have a low percentage of winning!

I used to try to "outgun" people and I would stick around alot longer in a firefight I knew I had a very good chance to lose.

Now, I just get out of there. Why bother?

Even if I see someone that is out of the range of my gun, I don't even stop to take a shot or two at them, I just keep on moving and either find a better vantage to kill the person, or just forget about them entirely and move on.

So, the moral is, evaluate each firefight you are in. Things like - how many of them are there? Are they outside the effective range of your weapon? Do you have an escape route? If there are too many enemies, don't try to "just get one or two," just get out of there and find a new angle. If they are outside your range, just toss a grenade and get out of there. Only fight fights you know you can win.

Be smart :) It will improve your k/d ratio by decreasing your deaths.

Auditor_Kevin

01-02-08, 10:15 PM

BIGDINZ

01-02-08, 10:34 PM

Nice to hear that you got your connection back-up and running.

Don't fret to much over your early game play - practice, practice, practice and you'll be fine. Ive been playing on-line for a little over a month now, I've logged about 9.5 hrs thus far and last evening was the first match (playing ground war) I won - I know, I know guys I suck so there's no need to point it out:). I've scored close to the top on a few occasions but I was also just shy or more often at the bottom/middle of the list.

Seems that every match I get into these days is littered with players who's ranks are well above 40, so don't get to discouraged if your getting owned at first, still a fun a$$ game and your gain experience with every match. I'll keep an eye out for you:)

9.5 hours in a month? My total play time is around 7 days, LOL! I got the game the day it came out. I'm addicted to gaming, it's true.

BIGDINZ

01-02-08, 10:37 PM

Thanks. I guess I have to be quick to send invitation since I tried to do that but game gets full very quick. Is there trick to invite fast?

No there's no trick. Just join eachother in a party then find a ground war or team tactical or better yet, a hardcore game. You'll find after a little time that Hardcore is the way to play.

PJ_Rage

01-03-08, 08:47 AM

Why is it so flippin hard to get into a game?!?

The server searches for a game for me for about 20 seconds, then tries to make me a host with the neverending "Waiting for 5 more players". I'd get a game faster walking out the door and recruiting 5 random strangers to come to my house and play than it takes for those mythical 5 other people to get delivered by the server to my game.

I bail on the "Maytag repairman" host thing and try again, only to go through it all over again. I've read this entire subforum for new posts and posted this just while trying to get into another game. It's going on 20 minutes now and I can't get into any action. It's not like I'm looking for a game at 3AM either, it's 9PM CST. This should be PRIMETIME. It's friggin' ridiculous.

*SIGH*

Warhawk anyone????????????The game seems to want to make me the host more often than not too. Sometimes people join, sometimes they don't. It makes a decision quick now, though, compared to before, so I'm not complaining. Within 10 seconds, I'm either in a game, or I'm a host waiting for others. I generally don't wait to host though, I just exit out of the lobby immediately and research. It only takes me a time or two to do this before I find a "real" game. Average wait time to get into a "good" game for me, since the patch, is around 30-45 seconds total. Not bad at all as far as I'm concerned, especially when compared to the 8 minute average wait time I was experiencing before double xp weekend.

rjsanc30

01-03-08, 10:48 AM

9.5 hours in a month? My total play time is around 7 days, LOL! I got the game the day it came out. I'm addicted to gaming, it's true.

Hey I'm almost to 12 hrs now thank you!

I got COD4 on launch day as well, but I didn't start playing online for at least another week or so after that - I really wanted to finish the single player portion before I got into the online play: a) because I knew that once I began playing online that would be it for single player mode and b) I wanted to get some in-game experience before stepping into the online arenas, so I wouldn't get owned right out of the gate....still got owned, at least at first:)

I too am completely addicted to COD4, but my game play time is quite limited these days - between my family life, work and other titles I enjoy playing, well there's just not enough hours in the day.

Cucuy

01-03-08, 01:54 PM

Why is it so flippin hard to get into a game?!?

I understand your pain. I was feeling like that before the patch. It would take me 5-10 mins to join games. Now I can get into games in less than 1 min.

IW has stated that the increase in players due to the holidays has caused players to take longer to find games. They said it is temporary. I guess it means they are working on it or that the flow of gamers is going to decrease once people have less time to play (back to work, back to school, etc) games to take longer.

YMMV but in my experinece I think the longer delays in finding a game mostly apply to TDM and FFA since I have not experienced any obscene wait times even around the Holidays. If you are > than level 9 just avoid the FFA and TDM. If not then you are SOL. Just wait it out and once you get in level up. :)

Auditor_Kevin

01-03-08, 02:00 PM

It's funny you say that because I play mostly TDM. I'll experiment with some other game types. I was doing ground war and the wait times weren't as bad.

Cucuy

01-03-08, 02:20 PM

It's funny you say that because I play mostly TDM. I'll experiment with some other game types. I was doing ground war and the wait times weren't as bad.

Yeah the logic to that is that all new volume coming to hit the servers has not hit level 9 so they can not go into the other game types thus hammering the servers on TDM and FFA. Happy killing

BIGDINZ

01-03-08, 09:07 PM

Hey I'm almost to 12 hrs now thank you!

I got COD4 on launch day as well, but I didn't start playing online for at least another week or so after that - I really wanted to finish the single player portion before I got into the online play: a) because I knew that once I began playing online that would be it for single player mode and b) I wanted to get some in-game experience before stepping into the online arenas, so I wouldn't get owned right out of the gate....still got owned, at least at first:)

I too am completely addicted to COD4, but my game play time is quite limited these days - between my family life, work and other titles I enjoy playing, well there's just not enough hours in the day.

I played about 80% of the single player before going online. I finished it about a week later. I agree there is not enough time!:(

William Mapstone

01-03-08, 10:19 PM

Is the silencer worth using? I used it to complete the silencer challenge, but now that the challenge is done, I am undecided on whether its worth using... opinions?

_Avarice_

01-03-08, 11:11 PM

Is the silencer worth using? I used it to complete the silencer challenge, but now that the challenge is done, I am undecided on whether its worth using... opinions?

Personally, I love using the silencer because I hate for people to know where I am when firing. Some of the smaller maps suffer from "grenade-spamming," where players just chuck grenades into the enemy spawning area hoping for a cheap kill. If you show up on the radar when you fire, it gives them a better idea where to toss an el-cheapo frag.

rgdigital

01-04-08, 01:00 AM

If youve got surround sound turn up the volume!

caught a few people trying to creep up on me by hearing them in my rear speakers! also good to hear general locations of firefights etc so you can join in the fun :)

Very true! The sound of somebody creeping up on you is indeed a bit creepy, and so real. I love to use the Dead Silence perk so i make no sound at all moving around. With the surround cranked up, a silenced weapon and this perk, i'm like a ninja... with a gun.

Kevin12586

01-04-08, 08:48 AM

Personally, I love using the silencer because I hate for people to know where I am when firing. Some of the smaller maps suffer from "grenade-spamming," where players just chuck grenades into the enemy spawning area hoping for a cheap kill. If you show up on the radar when you fire, it gives them a better idea where to toss an el-cheapo frag.

Agreed, when I unlocked the silencer for my M4 it became my best friend, even more than the red dot perk.

William Mapstone

01-04-08, 08:58 AM

Originally posted by Kevin12586
Agreed, when I unlocked the silencer for my M4 it became my best friend, even more than the red dot perk.
to bad there wasn't a way to have more than one attachment. I do fine with the iron sights, but I would like both a red dot sight and silencer. But I guess thats what makes it fun. Or is there a way to have both? When I enabled the silencer I lost the red dot sight.

tneck

01-04-08, 09:01 AM

Don't think there is a way to have both. I suck with iron sights unfortunately. I did here someone rumor that after completing all the prestige levels you unlock both but I would think you would have heard a definite answer on that if it was really true. Think it is just a rumor.

PJ_Rage

01-04-08, 09:41 AM

wmwilker

01-04-08, 09:55 AM

I think you still show up when you fire with the UAV Jammer. But you dont show the rest of the time.
Also the iron sights on the G3 are great but Im not sure if you can get a silencer wth it. Ill have to check. (Great weapon thought)

GoND

01-04-08, 12:26 PM

I feel your pain, although I've only been online a few times. As for those frusterated, just look at it like this. There are just people out there that have no life at all and sit online playing video games in their parents basement, where they'll remain until they're 40 years old.

So, next time you get shot to hell online just think of that guy, and you'll realize you're probably still the big winner, regardless of online scores. ;)

UNHClown

01-04-08, 12:50 PM

Does anyone know if using the uav-jammer perk still shows you as a red dot on the enemy radar when you shoot?

The description is not clear on that. It just says that you won't appear as a red dot on enemy radar. I take that to mean EVER. So you can use uav-jammer and red dot, if you want red dot and to stay off radar.

When you shoot without a silencer you are able to be seen regardless of the UAV Jammer perk...which is why I don't use the UAV Jammer perk. The reason for this is because they don't need the UAV to see you on radar if you're firing without a silencer. So if you're going to use the UAV Jammer, use a silencer on your weapon.

bcrossan7

01-04-08, 02:18 PM

When you shoot without a silencer you are able to be seen regardless of the UAV Jammer perk...which is why I don't use the UAV Jammer perk. The reason for this is because they don't need the UAV to see you on radar if you're firing without a silencer. So if you're going to use the UAV Jammer, use a silencer on your weapon.

UAV Jammer is pretty much only good for SD. It is a very nice thing to have when you are the last one left and they are hunting you with a UAV. It is no good when you are running and gunning the whole map.

matt5112

01-04-08, 02:24 PM

Ever see someone with an M4 and double tap ? :P It litterally mows people down as you'd expect it to. Especially on Hardcore, but double tap on hardcore is borderline martydom which is just for the people who cant get kills with lead :P.

Evoex

01-04-08, 02:28 PM

UAV Jammer is pretty much only good for SD. It is a very nice thing to have when you are the last one left and they are hunting you with a UAV. It is no good when you are running and gunning the whole map.

Silenced Sub Machine gun, Bandolier, UAV Jammer and Steady aim. That was my setup from ranks 40-51 for TDM and I 'run and gunned' the entire time. Flanked their entire team and started taking them out from behind, lots of fun.

NYFOOTBALLGIANTS

01-04-08, 02:28 PM

Ever see someone with a P90 with Double tap and an ACOG scope? I did last night. Doesn't make any sense but it seemed to be working for him. Does the ACOG actually physically change the range of the gun or only add the optics.

VeeArSix

01-04-08, 02:34 PM

NYFOOTBALLGIANTS

01-04-08, 02:38 PM

Interesting, I always thought the range increase shown was just because you could "see" further. I have been playing since the beginning (currently level 44 or so) and I always thought it was just optics.

kingcodez

01-06-08, 12:35 PM

When not using a silencer, I see the UAV Jammer perk as simply being a means to get behind the enemy in a match where you are facing a superior team. Why are they superior? because they have near constant radar.

It is sometimes stupid to use a jammer without a suppressor, but if it gives you that edge to get behind the enemy, if they are alone, you can take out a silenced .45 or use your knife to kill them. That will give you maby ten seconds to get to a better hiding spot to assess your situation.

My favorite class:
MP5-Silencer
Beretta (this acts as a mini bandoleer it will add 30 9mm rounds to the MP5 if you haven't unlocked Bando or want to use triple frag.
Stopping Power or a UAV Jammer
Deadsilence/steady aim

For longer ranges I use:
G3 w/RDS
Silenced M1911A1
Triple Frag
Stopping Power
Steady aim or Dead Silence

And:
RPD w/Grip
Silenced M1911A1
Stopping Power
And usually Deep Impact but I frequently use Steady Aim.

I do sometimes throw on a UAV Jammer for the RPD and switch to my pistol/whatever I find on the ground that is silenced.

But make sure to get good with your pistol, I like the M1911 the best as it kills in two hits. I recently started using it with a silencer and absolutely love it. I get soo many pistol kills, I wish I could use it as a primary and get extra ammo as I run out alot. The pistol is always my choice when entering a room if I have the element of suprise and a gun that isn't good upclose/unsilenced. Pistol also has an extremely fast reload.

Enter a room, see a guy shooting out a window, shoot four, if you got time reload if not take the other guy out, reload and find the third.

thats pretty much how I got my 2.20 KDR (around 24000 kills)
The best thing sometimes is to flat out Flank the enemy. Get behind them while they are focused shooting your team. You can esily pick up 2-5 kills until they shift spawn points, then do the same again.

[SS]Shooter

01-07-08, 02:20 AM

The maps are by sea snipers which back in the day were the top clan in Socom, I wasn't apart of their clan but man I had alot of respect for them. Mainly b/c they created maps for each board on their website and what was sick is that you could edit them and make markings on where you want to ambush, defend, camp, etc. You can probably search online for maps or waste ur time playing each map over and over again. But for everyone I think this SG is a great reference tool and its only $15 @ BB.

Guys, I'm [SS]Shooter from the Sea Snipers and one of the authors of the multiplayer section of the COD4 guide. We worked very hard to make the guide as comprehensive and fun as possible.

We gave some map strategies for each map and thoughts on loadouts for a lot of different tactical scenarios. The maps are also helpful for people that are looking to plan squad strategies. This will prove crucial in clan wars as there are some awesome COD4 clans out there.

For the money, I think the strategy guide is a good deal. If it makes you feel better, I actually had to pay for my copy as well...

FWIW, I think the best COD4 modes are the search and destroy modes (hardcore and normal). I prefer normal, as there is SOME margin for mistakes, as opposed to the brutal nature of hardcore. The point is that you don't respawn, forcing you to be more tactical. I would say regular S&D presents a gameplay very similar to Socom II, a game that I really thought was great in its day.

I hope anyone that bought the guide enjoyed it.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v295/SSShooterr/newvegassig2007copy.jpg

ArcticHaze

01-07-08, 02:46 AM

I just got the G3. What maps and scenario do you guys use this for?

Its quite deadly but its one click one round rate of fire is a pain.

PJ_Rage

01-07-08, 07:39 AM

Yeah, the MP44 is pretty much a joke weapon. I think that's why the only challenge for it is the headshot one. Because trying to get headshots with it is ridiculous. Just like trying to kill anyone and/or use it effectively. What a waste, heh. It kinda sucks that you get all the best weapons early in your leveling.

Thanks for chiming in shooter. Maybe I'll have to check out that guide. And try some search and destroy :) I'm really hooked on headquarters right now, but I guess I can try a different mode out.

Drewbert

01-07-08, 07:53 AM

Im trying to level up my guns

I have the gold shotgun, and the gold uzzi... Im trying for the ak.... I actually saw a gold ak47 while playing. And I have seen the gold uzzi by a guy that was a 3rd tier prestige. wow!

Guns that I HATED doing the challenges with- scorpion, wow what a pos! And actually the uzzi was hard, its not that accurate either.

So far I have Red tiger on the M4, G36 and the G3 (love that thing)
Im slowly working on the others.... that mp44 is more of a pos than the scorpion!

FWIW I shoot from the hip a lot with the mp44.... its SLOWLY working, my K/D ratio sucks when playing with it.....
Im the guy on the kill cam running behind you and taking my time to shoot you in the head :D

PJ Im frustrated like you, the good guns you get early, the crappy ones you get later.
M60 and the mp44? blah

The final gun should be the G36.... that gun is a freakin CHAMP

Rieper

01-07-08, 02:21 PM

Im trying to level up my guns
...
Guns that I HATED doing the challenges with- scorpion, wow what a pos!

I dunno why, but I luv the Skorpion. I can move around so fast with it, and its dead accurate for me. I've shot people dead-on, across a lot of ground with it (for example, the Missile Silo map). To each his own, I guess.

The G36 is a nice gun too. Although that comes much later in the level ups.

Auditor_Kevin

01-07-08, 02:41 PM

I'm having a heckuva time getting into games again. Just simple TDM games too.

It's like I'm back at the pre-patch wait times.

Last time I counted 18 attempts (where you try to get into a room, then they throw you into a new game as a host but never fill up your room).

Ridiculous.

Rambler358

01-07-08, 03:07 PM

Yep - it's still an issue. :(

PJ_Rage

01-07-08, 04:26 PM

I liked the uzi pretty good. Especially for smaller maps. It's recoil sucks, but it is very strong. I liked it alot with sleight of hand.

IMO, (M16 = M4) > G36. But to each his own I guess. I don't like the recoil or rate of fire of the G36. It's slightly improved power don't help me much when taking away the ROF and adding a little more/different recoil.

I'm convinced lately that the M16 is the best gun in the game. For close range it's sort like a shotgun in that one shot (a 3-round burst) almost always kills - only it fires faster, holds more ammo, and has longer range! For very long range it's great because the three bullets spread just enough that you can be a *little* off aim and one or more of the bullets will still hit. But if you are right on, it never takes me more than 2 bursts to kill someone, which is easy to do. And lastly, it seems to be the best gun to use in a laggy situation, or even with a *little* lag as I've described I've noticed earlier in this thread. I think it's because automatic guns like the M4 fire each bullet individually in that your game tells the server each time it fires, whereas the M16 shoots all three as if they were one. So when hold the trigger and the M4 fires 3 bullets the server might only register two if you died before the third fired (and your game didn't find out you died before it showed the animation/sound of the 3rd bullet going off), but if the server registers anything at all for your M16, it seems to register all 3, which can/could/does mean that you win the encounter, if they hit. It's like an infinite rate of fire, basically, on the three shots. I've noticed stuff like this when using double tap too, it truly does not seem (to me) that the server is registering every single bullet I fire with double tap on. Instead of registering evey bullet I fire, it seems that it registers only every 4 out of 5, or maybe less. Try it out by using a fast gun like the p90, with double tap (silenced so you can hear it better) and aim at someone. Listen to how many bullets hit when point blanc, vs how many you fire. It doesn't seem right... I mean, it seems increased, but not as many as it should be.

All this lag talk and bullet/server handling is speculation on my part, but it seems to hold true, to me, in what I've seen. As a very technical person, I'm constantly trying to figure out why things are like they are, and that's what I've come up with so far :p