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brittonal 12-11-07, 10:35 PM Its time for some new! Right now im using the Klipsch Quintet II 5.1 with the KSW 12in Woofer. I am very surprised on how these little guys sound but I know I want more. Im trying to conserve space so.... Im thinking....no floorstanders or anything that mounts to a stand. Sense Ive gotten my 50 inch sony with the matching stand, there isnt much room left. Right next to the tv the 12 inch woofer sits so I was thinking I could mount some bookshelfs on the wall. Can I mount bookshelfs on a shelf on each side of the tv about ear level to get the speakers off the floor?
I dont know much about speakers. All Ive ever had for home audio is klipsch so ive been looking at the B-2s and the B-3s with center and surrounds.
Can you all help me out? Ill be running a Onkyo 705 soon too! :-)
I do have an older pic with the old tv on the old stand on here so I can post that if it helps.
Daveybluegtp 12-12-07, 04:58 AM Whats your budget going to be? this a big factor when picking speakers...
brittonal 12-12-07, 10:13 AM Id like to keep it between 1000-1300 or so. I have a sub so I dont wanna change it out.
brittonal 12-13-07, 12:24 PM Anything from klipsch in that range?
sivadselim 12-13-07, 12:42 PM Anything from klipsch in that range?
http://www.klipsch.com/products/lists/bookshelf.aspx
If you are going to mount your speakers on the wall, though, you should avoid rear-ported speakers. Also, there are some good deals available on certain discontinued speaker lines right now, so I wouldn't necessarily limit yourself to Klipsch.
einsteinjb 12-13-07, 12:47 PM Is that 1000 - 1300 for 2 speakers or 5?
If you're looking for a whole wall-mountable set for $1300 or less, you've got a few good choices. The SVS SBS-01 system is one, and I think AV123 has a small system in that price range that's highly regarded. Hsu Research might also be an option. And definitely check out ascendacoustics.com. Their CBM-170SEs are pushing the limits for wall-mountables; it can be done but you'd need very solid brackets, but their smaller HTM-200s would work nicely.
You might also call or email Jon lane at theaudioinsider.com and ask him if the Dana 630s are wall-mountable.
As for placing your speakers on a shelf, despite the "bookshelf" label, it's generally not recommended. Acoustically it's a really bad place to put speakers. Not that it can't work, but you shouldn't expect the best sound from your system if you do it. Along those same lines, when choosing speakers to mount on the wall, always ask about how far from the wall they need to be to avoid boundary reinforcement (meaning the bass would be too boomy and overemphasized). Some speakers like TAI's Acculine A1s are meant to be placed close to a wall, while others aren't.
Also many speakers are rear-ported and therefore need more space from a wall to let the port do its thing without too much boundary reinforcement than those that are sealed or front-ported. I think the Dana 630s are front ported but I'm not sure about that...
einsteinjb 12-13-07, 12:52 PM If you are going to mount your speakers on the wall, though, you should avoid rear-ported speakers.
Well, I generally agree but many rear-ported speakers are speced to work at a certain distance from the wall, which a good bracket can easily provide. Also keep in mind if you're crossing the speakers to a sub at 80 Hz or higher, the boundary reinforcement is a bit less of an issue. It can be made to work nicely. The SVS SBS-01 system for example, in my opinion doesn't have much low end anyway (I found mine sounded best crossed to my sub at 100 Hz when I had them, a bit too high really but it's what worked) so they might actually benefit from being mounted close to the wall. (Their mids and highs are excellent for their price, BTW, and they'll play shockingly loud without distortion.)
sivadselim 12-13-07, 01:02 PM Well, I generally agree but many rear-ported speakers are speced to work at a certain distance from the wall, which a good bracket can easily provide.
agreed
Also keep in mind if you're crossing the speakers to a sub at 80 Hz or higher, the boundary reinforcement is a bit less of an issue.
.............so they might actually benefit from being mounted close to the wall.
Agreed, although 80Hz is lower than you might think. The smaller the speaker, the higher the port is going to be tuned, so with a smaller speaker it may actually be closer to 80Hz. I was going to mention that a port can be 'plugged', too, but didn't want to confuse things.
PR Audio 12-13-07, 01:03 PM What do you mean by wall mountable??? In-Wall, On-Wall, or brackets???
In-Walls I'n no expert, as they are very difficult to install in my house.
On-Wall, in your price range you can look at Klipsch SLX and RVX-42, I understand the RVX-42 costs around $400 each in the USA, but here in PR there is a Klipsch distributor that sells them for $279.00 each. So, check around. Monitor Audio has an excellent series, Radius. An Paradigm has the Cinema Series. Some models from the above mentioned series will be in your price range.
You could use a nice set of brackets like Sanus WMS2 or B-Tech 77, and mount bookshelfs in your walls. They also make center channel wall mounts. When choosing speakers for this application go for bookshelves that are front ported, not rear ported. I recommend PSB Image B15's and/or B25's, but others will give you other recommendations, which I'm sure are excellent choices also.
usher and B&W also make front-ported bookshelf speakers. KEF is front ported as well. I'm sure there are many others and some even have boundary compensation switches. I'd try to listen to different models in a store and see if you can put them on a shelf near a wall and see what you think.
cschang 12-13-07, 01:14 PM Their CBM-170SEs are pushing the limits for wall-mountables; it can be done but you'd need very solid brackets, but their smaller HTM-200s would work nicely.
Also, the HTM-200 has now been updated to an SE with new woofers and the same custom Seas tweeter as the 170SE. So the differences between the two, especially crossed at 80hz for HT duty are probably fairly small....their more flexible mounting could easily sway the difference.
You might also call or email Jon lane at theaudioinsider.com and ask him if the Dana 630s are wall-mountable.
Heard these last night and definitely think they are worth considering/comparing.
brittonal 12-13-07, 01:33 PM The SVS SBS-01 seems to get great reviews. How do you go about wall mounting these things? Id prob. wall mount the rears and then shelf the fronts.
sivadselim 12-13-07, 01:38 PM The SVS SBS-01 seems to get great reviews.
So do all the other speakers mentioned here. :)
How do you go about wall mounting these things? Id prob. wall mount the rears and then shelf the fronts.
Some speakers have wall-mounting accomodations built-in. Others have universally sized and/or spaced screw-holes that will work with the commonly available wall-mounting brackets. If they have no such accommodations, you have to be clever. You can always mount shelves on the wall for the speakers to sit upon.
PR Audio 12-13-07, 01:57 PM The SVS SBS-01 seems to get great reviews. How do you go about wall mounting these things? Id prob. wall mount the rears and then shelf the fronts.
Look for Sanus WMS2 or B-Tech 77 wall mounting brackets. B-Tech also makes a wall mounting bracket for center channel speakers. www.btechavmounts.com
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