I just seen this today when looking at the coming soon section at gamestop. I hadn't read anything about this until now.

Does anyone know any info about the Xbox 360 HDMI Conversion Kit? I found the mad catz pdf file online at Link to PDF file (http://images.madcatz.com/sales_sheets/4744MCB-SS.pdf). It doesn't say if it will allow the 360 to upconvert standard DVD's or not.

Would something like this provide the same picture quality as the 360 that has hdmi built in?

I too would love to know more....

IMHO, if the picture is being converted to HDMI then they'd have to have the upscaler built into that unit and it would likely be a big part of their literature.

I'm guessing no upscaling for now...

No it will not upscale. The 360 is still outputting over component and it cannot output DVDs in anything above 480p over component. If there is upscaling taking place then it is taking place in that box connected to the console and is probably very poorly done, chances are your TV has a better scaler.

I'm not sure I see the point in this, all it's going to do is change the analog signal your 360 is outputting into a digital one which is exactly what your TV would do regardless, the difference being your TV probably does it better than this cheap piece of crap. It's not going to offer any increase is PQ and will in fact probably make it look worse than straight component or VGA (which VGA will upscale).

Nevermind I do see the point in this: to prey off peoples ignorance of how the 360, their TV, HDMI, upscaling, and digital and analog signals work. Ignorant is not meant in a derogative way for the record.

This will not do anything to improve picture quality or approximate the effect of having HDMI built into the 360. This is only for convenience if it would be better for you to hook into an HDMI port instead of component.

This should be a great device to have. If it preforms correctly what it should allow you to do is convert 1080p compent to HDMI for TVs that do not except 1080p over compent. Which is the majority of TVs out there. Now I should be able upgrade my old 360s to 1080p HDMI.

Good point prime.

Hopefully it converts VGA to HDMI, rather than component to HDMI. Although a well designed device like this would be extremely useful, I have my doubts about how well this will work in reality.

Hopefully it converts VGA to HDMI, rather than component to HDMI. Although a well designed device like this would be extremely useful, I have my doubts about how well this will work in reality.

If it is converting from the VGA output pins to HDMI then the upconversion of DVDs would be able to be output.

No it will not upscale. The 360 is still outputting over component and it cannot output DVDs in anything above 480p over component. If there is upscaling taking place then it is taking place in that box connected to the console and is probably very poorly done, chances are your TV has a better scaler.

What makes you think that they are using the component output of the 360 for conversion to HDMI? I would think that they would use VGA, which is an RGB native output, and is much closer to what HDMI uses.

And the 360 can upscale DVDs over VGA.

Still, I see no need for this.

There is no use for you because you probably don't own a 1080p TV. But for those of us that know about technology and have 1080p TVs and old 360s this is a god sent. I finally can set the xbox to 1080p and enjoy my HD content at the highest resolution. Don't post false information. User use these forums to get positive information. If you don't know the subject then don’t comment.

VGA and Component are all most the same thing the are both analog, so that really is doesn't make a difference

Also I don't think this is going to make any difference on regular dvds...for best performance in upconverting dvd from 480p to 1080p...you need a dedicated upscaling dvd player...the 360 would have to have that built in to it...this device simply converts what ever format you are using now over component or vga to the same resolution over HDMI. Don't be confused about component and composite. Component is your red, blue green, ...composite is you Yellow video cable.

There is no use for you because you propably don't own a 1080p TV. But for thoose of us that know about technology and have 1080p TVs and old 360s this is a god sent. Finally can set the xbox to 1080p and enjoy my HD content at the highest resolution. Don't post flase infomation. User use these fourms to get positive infomation. If you don't know the subject the comment.

O I'm sorry we don't know as much about technology as you, thankfully I do understand the english language and can formulate a sensible sentence and spell properly.

This product is useless, let's assume it does convert VGA to HDMI which would allow upscaling and 1080p output. Why the hell not just use VGA which does exactly the same thing on it's own? All this is going to do is perform the analog-to-digital convergence before the signal reaches the TV instead of after and I'll bet it's not going to do a good job of it. I don't trust it for the simple fact that it's coming from MadCatz and is probably being marketed towards the typical Joe Schmuck who doesn't have a clue how the signal works he just knows HDMI is the bestest connection in the whole wide world YAY!

Also I don't think this is going to make any differnce on regular dvds...for best proformance in upconverting dvd from 480p to 1080p...you need a dedicated upscaling dvd player...the 360 would have to have that built in to it...this device simply converts what ever format you are using now over compenet or vga to the same resolution over HDMI. Don't be confused about componet and composit. Componet is your red, blue green, ...composit is you Yellow video cable.

Wtf are you talking about? The 360 has a DVD drive and a scaling chip, that's a all a "dedicated upscaling DVD player" is. No the 360 doesn't do as good a job with upscaling as an Oppo, a high def movie player, or a PS3 but it's still generally better scaling at the 360 than it is at the TV.

Btw, it's spelled Component and Composite and yes everyone here is fully aware of the difference.

There is no use for you because you propably don't own a 1080p TV. But for thoose of us that know about technology and have 1080p TVs and old 360s this is a god sent. Finally can set the xbox to 1080p and enjoy my HD content at the highest resolution. Don't post flase infomation. User use these fourms to get positive infomation. If you don't know the subject the comment.

Huh?

I never claimed to be a spelling genius, but I think you are missing the point. Many TVs including one of mine (Mitsubishi 731 Series Tru1080p 65’ TV) can not except 1080p over component (Component Video Inputs (480i/480p/720p/1080i) however you can do 1080p over HDMI (HDMI™ video inputs 480i, 480p, 720p, 1080i, 1080p), so when I go and buy this on Tue. I will now be able to set my 360 to 1080p format play it on the TV and this is the whole point of the device. Not upscaling your old dvds to 1080p not provide better picture quality. Just simply converting the component/VGA out to HDMI.

I never claimed to be a spelling genius, but I think you are missing the point. Many TVs including one of mine (Mitsubishi 731 Series Tru1080p 65’ TV) can not except 1080p over component (Component Video Inputs (480i/480p/720p/1080i) however you can do 1080p over HDMI (HDMI™ video inputs 480i, 480p, 720p, 1080i, 1080p), so when I go and buy this on Tue. I will now be able to set my 360 to 1080p format play it on the TV and this is the whole point of the device. Not upscaling your old dvds to 1080p not provide better picture quality. Just simply converting the component/VGA out to HDMI.

Let's go over this again. First of all assuming your TV has a VGA input, why don't you just use VGA? VGA upscales DVDs and it outputs 1080p just fine. Second, there's a good chance this will degrade picture quality for pointlessly letting a cheap device convert an analog signal to digital instead of just letting your TV do it. Third, you don't have to be a "spelling genius" but if you want to be taken seriously your post shouldn't look like a 12 year old typed it.

Edit: Btw have what's the deal with sending your TV a 720p or a 1080i signal? That's a pretty nice TV and nice name brand 1080p TVs usually have a good scaler built in so your TV probably scales the signal better than your 360.

I would not have to rely on my TV to scaling anything if it was being sent over 1080p and no this and many other TVs do not except 1080p over VGA analog. PC DVI-I Input
VGA-XGA, 1280 x 720 Analog Yes
VGA-SXGA, 1920 x 1080 Analog No
VGA-SXGA, 1280 x 720, 1920 x 1080 Digital Yes

This is a common problem with many 1080p TVs

I would not have to rely on my TV to scaling anything if it was being sent over 1080p any no this and many other TV do not do 1080p over VGA analog. PC DVI-I Input
VGA-XGA, 1280 x 720 Analog Yes
VGA-SXGA, 1920 x 1080 Analog No
VGA-SXGA, 1280 x 720, 1920 x 1080 Digital Yes

This is a common problem with many 1080p TVs

Aside from like 3 sports games 360 games render at or oftentime below 720p. That means when you're "outputting" 1080p you're really just telling your 360 to upscale the signal to 1080p. You have a nice 1080p TV, good 1080p TVs usually have quality scalers. Hence chances are outputting 720p to your TV and allowing it to do the scaling is going to look better than telling your 360 to do the upscale and then sending it through some shoddy analog to digital converter.

for 100dollars, would it cost the same and better for you to sell your xbox for 150dollars and buy an xbox arcade for 250??

The price is $90 at game stop. This is a bit steep. but at lease there is an option now. The Xbox 360 arcade doesn't have a hard drive. Though I could keep my hard drive from my old one, but I don't see any one buying a 360 with no hd, no hdmi or controllers for $150. On Ebays cores are still $200

The price is $90 at game stop. This is a bit steep. but at lease there is an option now. The Xbox 360 arcade doesn't have a hard drive. Though I could keep my hard drive from my old one, but I don't see any one buying a 360 with no hd, no hdmi or controllers for $150. On Ebays cores are still $200

If the Cores go for $200, wouldn't you just have to add a controller and it's the same thing?

In all honesty, if you listed just the box on craigslist for $150, I think you might find some interest. All it costs is a couple minutes of your time.

Instead of wasting near $100 on a gimmick, how about selling your old premium system for $250 and upgrading to a brand new one with HDMI, and get 2 free game in the process????

Humm. The 360 does an D/A from the frame buffer to component via the ANA chip, then this thing does a A/D to convert it to HDMI, it is going to be worse than when you started.

i just got the new sharp aquos l42d64u and it accept 1080p over component. the only reason i would get the kit was if it would keep the 1080p resolution when playing an hd-dvd. but i dont think this kit will help

this makes no sense and would be a waste of money - there was a recent vapourware product that claimed to do the same thing. 1080p means nothing if to get there you need to utilize some crappy processor/ scaler to convert an analoge to digital signal. pq would likely suffer. i still can't figure out how anyone thinks this product would sell.

this makes no sense and would be a waste of money - there was a recent vapourware product that claimed to do the same thing. 1080p means nothing if to get there you need to utilize some crappy processor/ scaler to convert an analoge to digital signal. pq would likely suffer. i still can't figure out how anyone thinks this product would sell.

Because people can't comprehend the fact that this cheap piece of crap is not giving them true HDMI out and is in fact degrading their signal with what will no doubt be a horrible analog/digital conversion compared to what the TV would do.

Mad Catz is to be avoided at all costs.

been through this more than once.........

'tis a bit baffling. i can see a use if you wanted to use an hdmi switch rather than running a seperate vga cable for the xbox. of course anyone with a non-hdmi xbox already has their system wired....

While this particular adapter is probably a piece of crap, here's why it could be useful for me.

I have a Panasonic 1080p plasma that only accepts 1080p via HDMI. For some baffling reason the VGA port is limited to 1280x1024. For games this isn't an issue, because I don't own any that render at 1080p, but I'd like to get 1080i or 1080p from the HD-DVD player.

"Why not just run component, where you can get 720p for games and 1080i for HD-DVDs?" Well, the TV will add overscan and the Xbox won't upscale standard DVDs over component. "Why not get an Oppo?" I don't want to get an Oppo, I am very satisfied with the Xbox as an upconverting DVD player.

Also I don't think that the Xbox will automatically switch between 1080i and 720p for HD-DVDs and games. It's a small inconvenience, but I'd rather just set it to one resolution and not switch all the time. That's what I'm probably going to end up doing though.

I never claimed to be a spelling genius, but I think you are missing the point. Many TVs including one of mine (Mitsubishi 731 Series Tru1080p 65’ TV) can not except 1080p over component (Component Video Inputs (480i/480p/720p/1080i) however you can do 1080p over HDMI (HDMI™ video inputs 480i, 480p, 720p, 1080i, 1080p), so when I go and buy this on Tue. I will now be able to set my 360 to 1080p format play it on the TV and this is the whole point of the device. Not upscaling your old dvds to 1080p not provide better picture quality. Just simply converting the component/VGA out to HDMI.u 100% right i have a 1080p tv that can not except 1080p over
component. just wont hdmi on 360 for my tv. if it look good i am ok with it
the hell with it been cheap. :p

u 100% right i have a 1080p tv that can not except 1080p over
component. just wont hdmi on 360 for my tv. if it look good i am ok with it
the hell with it been cheap. :p

I'm starting to see a trend here, everyone who thinks this product isn't going to suck balls can't seem to comprehend how to form a proper sentence with proper spelling. Honestly guys I'm not being a dick but myself and many others aren't going to take you seriously if you can't take the time to make what you type legible.

I recently purchased a 360 Elite to replace my non-HDMI 360 premium. I have a Panasonic 700U 1080p plasma that does NOT take 1080p over component.

My first experience with Mad Catz was using their PS2 component cables about 3 years ago. The provided me with some of the worst picture quality I have ever experienced.

You guys most likely spent a decent amount of money on your 1080p sets and it seems crazy to leave your PQ to a sub-par manufacturer that you know is not going to be very good. If you want good PQ I would recommend trading in or selling your current 360 and picking one up with HDMI instead of using a device like this.

Just my 2 cents.

Just so everybody who's thinking of getting this knows, Gamestop is currently taking trade-ins on old 360s for $150 and they don't require a harddrive. So instead of wasting $100 on this piece of crap that will do nothing more than give you horrid PQ you'd be better off tradeing in your old box, keeping your HDD, and buying a new Arcade 360. All in all you'll end up paying $130 ($280 for the arcade system minus $150 from your trade-in) and you'll get real HDMI, a memory card, 5 free arcade games, and if you do your research you can snag a new box with the Falcon chipset.

I might have missed this so if its been stated forgive me. Yes I know madcatz is crap, but for all the A$$hats that are just screaming over and over just use the VGA. When MS announced 1080p over vga a year ago (before hdmi xbox) everyone laughed and said how stupid it was...why? MOST tv's wont take 1080p over vga so its useless, so before screaming at people just stop and think if was as easy as buying the $50 vga cable don't ya think they would before buying a $100 adapter made by the worst after market company around? calm down :D

Just so everybody who's thinking of getting this knows, Gamestop is currently taking trade-ins on old 360s for $150 and they don't require a harddrive. So instead of wasting $100 on this piece of crap that will do nothing more than give you horrid PQ you'd be better off tradeing in your old box, keeping your HDD, and buying a new Arcade 360. All in all you'll end up paying $130 ($280 for the arcade system minus $150 from your trade-in) and you'll get real HDMI, a memory card, 5 free arcade games, and if you do your research you can snag a new box with the Falcon chipset.

Do you have to box up the one you are trading in to get the $150?

I might have missed this so if its been stated forgive me. Yes I know madcatz is crap, but for all the A$$hats that are just screaming over and over just use the VGA. When MS announced 1080p over vga a year ago (before hdmi xbox) everyone laughed and said how stupid it was...why? MOST tv's wont take 1080p over vga so its useless, so before screaming at people just stop and think if was as easy as buying the $50 vga cable don't ya think they would before buying a $100 adapter made by the worst after market company around? calm down :D

I get that and for the people who can't get 1080p out of VGA I see why this might appeal to you. However you're going to get far worse PQ letting this thing do the analog to digital conversion than you would simply sending your TV a 1080i signal and letting the TV de-interlace it.

And again when you can upgrade to an entirely new box with real HDMI, the new mobo, and get a memory card and five arcade games for $130 what's the incentive to spend $100 on this piece of crap.

Do you have to box up the one you are trading in to get the $150?

I don't think so, just bring in your box (remember to remove the HDD), your controller, and the video cables if you have em. Dunno if they give you less for not having the cables but since if you're not using HDMI chances are you have them.

I'm starting to see a trend here, everyone who thinks this product isn't going to suck balls can't seem to comprehend how to form a proper sentence with proper spelling. Honestly guys I'm not being a dick but myself and many others aren't going to take you seriously if you can't take the time to make what you type legible.I'M STARTING TO SEE THAT U ARE VERY STUPID AND THAT NO LIE.so let me get this right u wont me to sell my xbox for $150.00 and i have a 4yr warranty on {RIGHT}.GO GET A LIFE

last time i check i work for my money if it is crap o well