What is the best subwoofer I could get for a 5.1 system for about 200 dollars?

Is that including shipping? There are some nice subs like the Bic Acoustech H-100 and the AV123 X-sub at the $200 mark, but shipping is about another $40 or so.

Under $200, I think Velodyne's cheaper models are up there.

Is that including shipping? There are some nice subs like the Bic Acoustech H-100 and the AV123 X-sub at the $200 mark, but shipping is about another $40 or so.

Under $200, I think Velodyne's cheaper models are up there.

No, not including shipping and it can be a bit more or less.

Whats a good site to get the AVR123? Whats better that or the Bic acoustech? I will be using it for mostly movies and games.

AV123 sells their stuff direct. www.**********

As for which is best, it depends on what you want. Most report that the x-sub is more musical, while the Bic H-100 is deeper and more movie friendly. The thread with the sub rankings even back it up.

Is that including shipping? There are some nice subs like the Bic Acoustech H-100 and the AV123 X-sub at the $200 mark, but shipping is about another $40 or so.

Under $200, I think Velodyne's cheaper models are up there.

Those two would be my recommendation as well. Especially if this is mostly for Home Theater use.

Whats a good site to get the AVR123? Whats better that or the Bic acoustech? I will be using it for mostly movies and games.

********** sells the X-sub. Both are excellent choices at the $200 price point. The Bic should little better with HT and gaming due to it's larger driver and cabinet. You woudln't be disappointed either way but for priorites I'd go with the bic.

av123 is having a sale on B-stock and A minus stock subs. They are the Palisander Natural Satin veneer which is usually cost more than the $199 for the black color. Sale price is $179 and $189 for B and A minus stock, respectively. All you gotta do is go to the thread here http://av123forum.com/showthread.php?t=26992&page=20 and reply with a msg saying what you want. Hopefully they'll have some still in stock. Pic of the veneer here http://www.**********/images/finishes-black-prs-pns-moho.jpg

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=7039536&type=product&id=1099395911231

Hows this one?

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=7039536&type=product&id=1099395911231

Hows this one?

The sub 10 and 12 are good budget subs in the local market, imo the h-100 is a step above in perrformance, better looking cabinet also if that matters to you and cheaper final cost at least from that link.

Oh wow really? When I saw that sub on sale I thought for sure it was going to be the best.

Thanks for the info :) im going to hold off for a while and see how I like my polk sub (it sounds ok to me so far) then ill probably go ahead with the h-100 in a month or two.

Where can I get the Bic Acoustech H-100 for $200 before shipping?

Where can I get the Bic Acoustech H-100 for $200 before shipping?

Do a search on ebay, their are 2 authorized sellers that constantly run auctions on them and they have a make an offer option. They usually accept offers in the $200 - $210 range, u could try a little lower if you want but I doubt they will accept it.

Only thing that concerns me is not being able to listen to it. I loved the sub-10 when I heard it at bestbuy.

the Bic Acoustech H-100 is definatly better?

I think so and I've tried them both but that's my opinion. If you demoed the Sub-10 and liked it go for it, it only matters what you think.

They usually accept offers in the $200 - $210 range, u could try a little lower if you want but I doubt they will accept it.

They wouldn't go below $200 when I bought mine last week, and someone who bought one around the same time reported the same. But you can always try. It's not like they'll blackball you, they'll just say $200 is their low.

I have the sub that came with the polk RM6750's I just got a few days ago. Will I be able to notice a huge differnce with the Bic H-100? I really wish I could demo it.

FWIW, I noticed a huge difference between my old Onkyo sub and my Bic H100.

That Polk looks like a pretty small sub, too, at 8".

FWIW, I noticed a huge difference between my old Onkyo sub and my Bic H100.

That Polk looks like a pretty small sub, too, at 8".

Ok time to start saving :)

Im going to wait until after christmas and try and get a good after Christmas sale.

Think I am going to go for the Bic H-100. I will go to bestbuy and demo a few more first though. How much shipping did you pay for yours?

$39.

I've been looking for a sub also and came across the Dayton sub120 for $139 shipped. Is the BIC H100 worth the extra $100 over the Dayton if I'm only using it for HT use?

I've been looking for a sub also and came across the Dayton sub120 for $139 shipped. Is the BIC H100 worth the extra $100 over the Dayton if I'm only using it for HT use?

YES!:D If you have a tight budget, I think you can pickup a Velodyne VX10 at Frys for under $130.00 which is actually below cost. I'm not sure if they are the new improved versions or not. I was quite impressed with later model. According to Bruce Hall, they changed the amp circuitry and improved the input sensitivity which was always and issue for this sub. The auto on function works much better. As soon as you turn on your source, the sub is on, armed and ready. I ran this sub through the ringer with the last Pirates Of The Caribbean movie and was quite impressed . Even at higher volume levels, It handled the deepest bass effects without stress or any port noise which seems to be a problem for a lot of budget subs, including the older VRP 10's and the AV123.

Ian

I have the polk RM6750 speaker set. If I buy the Bic H-100 will it be a huge differnce?

Between the 50w Polk sub and the 500w Bic? I'd say so. ;)

If you mean between the Bic and either the Dayton or Velodyne, I'd still put my money on the Bic. Now all three subs at their prices are very good. It depends on what you want to spend. I can only say that I own the Bic and I'm happy. I've heard the Velodyne at a store and I think its good for its price.

Between the 50w Polk sub and the 500w Bic? I'd say so. ;)

If you mean between the Bic and either the Dayton or Velodyne, I'd still put my money on the Bic. Now all three subs at their prices are very good. It depends on what you want to spend.

Might as well spend the extra 100 dollars now because I know ill want to upgrade if I get one of the others.

Does the bic have volume control/ freq control and phase on the back? And would I be able to connect my sub cable to the L input on the sub to the sub output on my reciever like I do now?

And another quick question.

My room is pretty small, like 12x12 does that matter when looking for a sub or not?

Yes, it has a volume (or gain) control, a crossover control (although if you set it on the receiver you don't need to mess with the sub's), a phase switch, an on/off/auto switch, and inputs for both a sub cable and binding posts for older receivers that use speaker wire.

I also have to add that the piano black finish on top is gorgeous. It's a good looking unit.

As for the room, IMO, it's better to have too much sub than too little, as you can always dial the sub back and it'll still sound good.

Might as well spend the extra 100 dollars now because I know ill want to upgrade if I get one of the others.

Does the bic have volume control/ freq control and phase on the back? And would I be able to connect my sub cable to the L input on the sub to the sub output on my reciever like I do now?

Yes, yes, yes and yes, but that's the case with most if not all powered subwoofers and I totally agree with getting the bic over the others. Even if you're happy with one of the lesser price choices you'll always wonder and the performance level is well worth the price difference, looks better to imo if that matters.

Alright, thanks for all your help guys!

I am going to start saving for the Bic sub. They keep them on ebay all the time right? I probably will be ordering it in around a month or two. I want to be able to offer $200 on ebay and score one for 250 total. That would be awesome.

And another quick question.

My room is pretty small, like 12x12 does that matter when looking for a sub or not?

It only matters if you have space limitations as to where to put it. Otherwise no, you just won't have to push a more capable sub as hard to fill the space which is a good thing and also if you want to move it into a larger room later you've got your sub, reverse the issue and you'll be looking for an upgrade. It's always best to get the most capable sub you can at your budget level.

They keep them on ebay all the time right?

Yeah, they pretty much keep the auctions cycling. They have 14 from one seller and 8 from another right now. Just put in "Bic Acoustech H-100" in eBay and pick an auction. It's all the same.

Overstock.com also sells them, but for somewhat higher cost.

how does this bic sub compare to this JBL?

http://www.amazon.com/JBL-SUB12-12-Inch-500-Watt-Subwoofer/dp/tech-data/B000FBRC6Y******de_a_smtd

Which would you go with?
Dayton Sub120 http://www.parts-express.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?Partnumber=300-635
or
Velodyne VX10C http://shop4.outpost.com/product/4674948?

or something I'm totally overlooking?

My wife can live with the prices on both of these.

Which would you go with?
Dayton Sub120 http://www.parts-express.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?Partnumber=300-635
or
Velodyne VX10C http://shop4.outpost.com/product/4674948?

or something I'm totally overlooking?

My wife can live with the prices on both of these.


Any way you could talk her into letting you spend 100 more dollars? I think it would really be worth it.

Which would you go with?
Dayton Sub120 http://www.parts-express.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?Partnumber=300-635
or
Velodyne VX10C http://shop4.outpost.com/product/4674948?

or something I'm totally overlooking?

My wife can live with the prices on both of these.

I haven't had much experience with the VX10 but I'd go for it in a heartbeat over the Sub120, especially if music is involved at all. For strictly HT explosions the Sub120 might be ok, it has lots of output but for anything else I found it boomy and one noted.

Would the BIC H-100 sound good in 20 X 14 ft room where one corner of the room is open leading to upstairs?

Would the BIC H-100 sound good in 20 X 14 ft room where one corner of the room is open leading to upstairs?

My total basement is about 15' x 34' but my listening area is about 15'x17'. I was wondering if the BIC H-100 would be a good fit for me too?

I currently have an older Onkyo tx-ds484 with Polk satellites and 8" Polk sub and would like to experience better bass. I cranked it up today and could notice it (sub) was breaking up some at higher volumes. I just want some tighter bass at an affordable price and was wondering if the BIC would work for me at about $200 + shipping?

how does this bic sub compare to this JBL?

http://www.amazon.com/JBL-SUB12-12-Inch-500-Watt-Subwoofer/dp/B000FBRC6Y******pd_bbs_sr_11?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1198382263&sr=8-11


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Can't say, as I've never heard the JBL. Stats are similar, but the Bic has the HSU pedigree behind it, so take that for what you will. JBL isn't exactly the mover and shaker in the sub business as the others.

Hmm my reciever is only 100 watts per channel is that for the bic h-100?

Heres my reciever

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=8225878&type=product&id=1166840609689&AID=10474050&PID=1234320&URL=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.bestbuy.com%2Fsite%2Folspage.jsp%3FskuI d%3D8225878%26type%3Dproduct%26id%3D1166840609689

Hmm my reciever is only 100 watts per channel is that for the bic h-100?

Heres my reciever

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=8225878&type=product&id=1166840609689&AID=10474050&PID=1234320&URL=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.bestbuy.com%2Fsite%2Folspage.jsp%3FskuI d%3D8225878%26type%3Dproduct%26id%3D1166840609689

You're receivers wattage specs have nothing to do with the subwoofer. The H-100 as well as any powered subwoofer will have it's own amplifier. The receiver will send the unamplified signal to the sub.

You're receivers wattage specs have nothing to do with the subwoofer. The H-100 as well as any powered subwoofer will have it's own amplifier. The receiver will send the unamplified signal to the sub.

Oh wow im stupid. Thanks

Oh wow im stupid. Thanks

No your not, stupid would have been not asking and then assuming wrong. Now you know.

No your not, stupid would have been not asking and then assuming wrong. Now you know.

Ok, well thanks for all you're help man.

:)

I've just ordered a Bic H100 but it hasn't arrived yet. I'll let you know how my son in-law likes it compared to his 10" Velodyne. His hearing is a whole lot better than mine and he's the one who set up my surround sound.

I'm trying to deiced between the AV123 and the Bic Acoustech H-100. Mostly for movies, but will use for music as well. I have Polk RTI10's (bought them for $220 each, all-in, hope I did OK). Budget system, just an Onkyo 505 for now until I can afford an 805. Room is 16'x15'x10'. Any advice? Thanks in advance!

I received my BIC H-100 a little over a week ago. I'm blown away by the quality of this sub and how great it sounds for the money, I would have expected to pay double for this thing.

b8b:
I just received my BIC H100 and I also have an Onkyo TX-SR505.

The BIC sub is fantastic! For the money I don't see how you can go wrong.

Add me as another about to get the H-100. It's been shipped and I'm really excited to hear what it can do. It's my first real sub.

Has anyone heard both of these subs? Both of these are about the same price. I was told to go with the 404 but just wanted to get some other thoughts on it. It will be used about 90% ht.

b8b:
I just received my BIC H100 and I also have an Onkyo TX-SR505.

The BIC sub is fantastic! For the money I don't see how you can go wrong.

Thanks, HMorgan! Your counsel is especially appreciated since you have the same equipment.