View Full Version : S-video upscaling to component ?


kuma1
12-17-07, 06:02 PM
I want to convert the Svideo from the Dish Networks receiver to component signaling for a DLP/HDMI tv. Would the video quality be just as good as if the Dish receiver was component cabling? Thinking of the Yamaha RX-V659

Also, from what I read, you get the same video quality with component
cableing as you do HDMI cables?


Sorry for the lame questions. Just got back from CC and BB and they know very little...

ccotenj
12-17-07, 06:09 PM
1) yes, if you use component instead of s-video, you should get an improved picture. this assumes i'm understanding your question correctly.

2) yes, you should get essentially the same video quality via component as via hdmi. hdmi does have the "single cable" advantage vs. 4 cables (i.e. 3 component video and 1 spdif audio). this assumes no upscaling, etc.

kuma1
12-17-07, 06:22 PM
Ok, so - the rx-v659 Svideo to component upscaling conversion has the same picture quality as if the Dish Networks receiver had component video out on it?

Seems like some picture quality would get lost during the upscaling/conversion?

cavu
12-17-07, 06:35 PM
Svideo to component upscaling conversion has the same picture quality as if the Dish Networks receiver had component video out on it?Absolutely not! Garbage in - garbage out!!

kuma1
12-17-07, 06:45 PM
Absolutely not! Garbage in - garbage out!!

So this conversion feature is only good for changing cabling types?

DoyleS
12-17-07, 07:42 PM
You are not starting out with an HD picture so you can't expect that you will get an improvement in the signal by converting from S-Video to Component. It is possible that the picture could be worse depending on the conversion that the receiver does. Your best bet would be to upgrade your Dish receiver to one of the new HD receivers and then you can use the HDMI or Component output into your DLP. The advantage that the receiver has if you decide to go that way is that you have one cable running to your DLP and your receiver can handle the switching. I would want to demo that before I bought it or have a pretty clear return policy. If the picture is bad and you decided to upgrade the Dish receiver, chances are that Component switching Yamaha might not be the best choice for you. When making these decisions, one has to keep the long term picture in mind as well as the short term to avoid a lot of rebuying.

..Doyle

ccotenj
12-17-07, 08:17 PM
oh, you meant "transcode" the s-video connection via the avr to component... it's unlikely that would buy you anything...

as others have noted, you probably should get a hd box... now THAT would help...

rynberg
12-17-07, 08:46 PM
EXACTLY! You bought an HDTV...now give it an HD source for crying out loud! :)

kuma1
12-17-07, 10:04 PM
LOL

Havent bought anything yet. Trying to understand exactly what I need...

Is it safe to assume that HDTV's in the next year will have component, as well as HDMI, inputs or do you think HDMI inputs only? Im asking because the receivers Im looking at do not have HDMI - only component hookups.

fwiw - I need a receiver now as my Denon went out the other day. Will be upgrading speakers and sub with the new receiver. Im certain in the next year that a new HDTV is in my future. Im trying to make a good decision on the receiver now so it will remain a good choice a year from now when the new TV shows up:)

Thanks for everyones time.

ekb
12-17-07, 10:36 PM
Im asking because the receivers Im looking at do not have HDMI - only component hookups.Why? Don't even cheap receivers have HDMI now-a-days?

Ed

kuma1
12-17-07, 11:01 PM
Why? Don't even cheap receivers have HDMI now-a-days?

Ed


Are you asking because HDMI should be a requirement? Or perhaps your idea of cheap is outside my budget:)

Given my budget, Im more into music than HT. Watts and quality of sound is more of a requirement than HDMI - at least thats the case right now.

westgate
12-17-07, 11:25 PM
Are you asking because HDMI should be a requirement? Or perhaps your idea of cheap is outside my budget:)

Given my budget, Im more into music than HT. Watts and quality of sound is more of a requirement than HDMI - at least thats the case right now.

just curious, what make and model tv do u have?:)

kuma1
12-18-07, 12:10 AM
just curious, what make and model tv do u have?:)

My tv's a POS! :) By todays standards that is... Money is going towards audio - thats whats broken - tv works fine...

ekb
12-18-07, 12:44 PM
Are you asking because HDMI should be a requirement? Or perhaps your idea of cheap is outside my budget:)

Given my budget, Im more into music than HT. Watts and quality of sound is more of a requirement than HDMI - at least thats the case right now.

I haven't been receiver shopping lately, but the impression that I get is that just about anything new has HDMI, even the entry level receivers. It's clear that digital audio connections are going that way and if you want to listen to the newest high quality digital media, it seems to just about require HDMI connections.

Ed

rynberg
12-19-07, 07:19 PM
1. Component video is perfectly capable of carrying HD for a long distance, much more robustly than HDMI. HOWEVER, most current displays are cheaping out on the component inputs and they do not have good frequency response. Hence, HDMI will give you a better picture on many modern displays. In addition, HDMI is necessary for upscaling DVDs.

2. Almost any receiver is going to come with at least HDMI switching, if not repeating. What is your budget?