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edfowler 12-18-07, 11:04 PM My BD-UP5000 has a build date of 2007/11 and says that it has the latest software and will not update the firmware.
So far the movies that either will not play or have navigation problems are:
Die Hard
Live Free or Die Hard
Mr and Mrs Smith
Fantastic Four Rise of the Silver Surfer
Planet Earth HD-DVD, problem using the scene selection
Pixar Shorts
Ratattoulie
Pirates of the Caribbean AWE
any others not playing?
audiomixer 12-18-07, 11:12 PM All FOX films...interesting.
edfowler 12-18-07, 11:23 PM and I REALLY lilke Fox films
crap
this is the reason I bought a player and gave up HTPC...
tostitobandito 12-18-07, 11:27 PM I think the LG players had the same problem with the same titles and it was corrected by firmware.
audiomixer 12-18-07, 11:28 PM I am sure it will be corrected...
Does the 1400 have the same problem?
According to another thread the 1400 won't play Live Free or Die Hard either, and I think that's with the latest firmware for that player, which is very recent.
The only Fox movie I have, actually the only bluray movie I have at the moment, is Live Free or Die Hard. When I put it in it starts to load (samsung bubble loading animation) but then just goes to a red screen that says my player needs a firmware update. The screen and message are from the disc. Also, on the front display of the player it scrolls "Side Show".
wormraper 12-19-07, 12:38 AM According to another thread the 1400 won't play Live Free or Die Hard either, and I think that's with the latest firmware for that player, which is very recent.
The only Fox movie I have, actually the only bluray movie I have at the moment, is Live Free or Die Hard. When I put it in it starts to load (samsung bubble loading animation) but then just goes to a red screen that says my player needs a firmware update. The screen and message are from the disc. Also, on the front display of the player it scrolls "Side Show".
my 1400 plays LFoDH just fine.
my 1400 plays LFoDH just fine.
My mistake, it was the 1200 that had problems.
BTW, I found this interesting:
http://avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=12285287#post12285287
If you can get one of your fox blurays to work they may all work. I can't try this because I only have one. edfowler, if you can, try it out.
edfowler 12-19-07, 12:56 AM I'll give it a shot
edfowler 12-19-07, 01:11 AM neither of the methods described worked on the 5000, looks like Fox has totally screwed up their new discs with a bunch of crap.
I hate DRM.
vinnie97 12-19-07, 01:44 AM Fox fails. Blu-Ray only, lovers of bloated DRM and most expensive MRSPs of all.
/rant ova.
XBRSteve 12-19-07, 02:03 AM I'm a neutral guy but this kind of thing makes me want to throw BluRay out the f'n window! I have had no such issues with HD-DVD's.
vinnie97 12-19-07, 02:06 AM *dons Blu-Ray fanboy hat* shoulda' got a PS3! :p *removes hat and rips into shreds*
Quetzalcoatl 12-19-07, 02:41 AM I'm a neutral guy but this kind of thing makes me want to throw BluRay out the f'n window! I have had no such issues with HD-DVD's.
It is not Fox it is Samsung. If these problems were happing accross the board with Blu-ray players I would agree but they are not. I have the 1200 and they are reactive on FW updates for it not proactive. I decided to pick up another player and my only choice at the time for DTS HD MA audio was a 1400 or a Pioneer 95. Well I decided to spend twice the money to get the 95. They have had one update and it was before the Die Hard movies and POTC3 to fix problems with them.
So no I put the blame on Samsung and them alone. And I cannot say from personal experence but it seem like LG is no better.
tostitobandito 12-19-07, 03:38 AM I think it really has more to do with new players than anything else. I'm pretty sure every player has had disc playing issues to some extent when they were new, which were fixed later with firmware. It just happens that Samsung and LG are the last two to release new players. This seems like a regular issue for HDM for the forseeable future due to the intricate and fluid nature of each format (more interactive features, growing capacities, combo discs, etc...).
SileasResearch 12-19-07, 06:01 AM Guys,
I've started this info on the FAQ general page. I'll try to monitor this thread for updates. PM me with specifics if you want.
Thanks
I guess I'm one of the lucky few that LFoDH works for. ;)
Did you try the HD-DVD version of those titles listed below to see if they worked? I assume you meant the BD versions?
My BD-UP5000 has a build date of 2007/11 and says that it has the latest software and will not update the firmware.
So far the movies it will not play for me are:
Live Free or Die Hard
Mr and Mrs Smith
Fantastic Four Rise of the Silver Surfer
any others not playing?
audiomixer 12-19-07, 04:56 PM Did you try the HD-DVD version of those titles listed below to see if they worked? I assume you meant the BD versions?
HD-DVD? From Fox? :rolleyes:
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this is the reason I bought a player and gave up HTPC...
Ed, a bit off topic, but I am very interested in your above comment because I'm having a serious debate with myself over whether to build a dual-format HTPC, buy separates (PS3+XA2), or buy a dual-format player such as the 5000.
If you wouldn't mind, I have a couple of questions for you.
Could your HTPC play both high-def formats? If so, which device outputs the better image, the HTPC or the 5000?
If you had it all to do over, and now having experienced the 5000's disk-play problems you've described, as well as the problems that HTPC entails, would you still buy the 5000?
Thanks.
CCDAstro 12-19-07, 06:01 PM FYI, on the owners thread (I will have mine Friday) they report that, even more oddly, LFODH plays on SOME 5000s but not others.
One owner called Samsung and were told that they are aware of this and it is a leading priority to fix.
I agree, it is the damn studios that are the culprit here, but what do we expect from those greedy, arrogant Hollywood types anyway? The real arrogance is displaying the message that you have to update firmware when the real problem is the disc.
XBRSteve 12-19-07, 07:59 PM It is not Fox it is Samsung. .
In the end I have to blame BluRay. There hardware specs were not set in stone and manufacturers are having a hard time keeping up with media that changes. HD-DVD has had some firmware updates but nothing like this. Toshiba did a great job finalizing their hardware specs.
edfowler 12-19-07, 08:09 PM Ed, a bit off topic, but I am very interested in your above comment because I'm having a serious debate with myself over whether to build a dual-format HTPC, buy separates (PS3+XA2), or buy a dual-format player such as the 5000.
If you wouldn't mind, I have a couple of questions for you.
Could your HTPC play both high-def formats? If so, which device outputs the better image, the HTPC or the 5000?
If you had it all to do over, and now having experienced the 5000's disk-play problems you've described, as well as the problems that HTPC entails, would you still buy the 5000?
Thanks.
Yes the HTPC played both formats very, very well...when they played. The latest batch of DRM infested movies has been frustrating and Cyberlink has bowed down to the studios to make playback even more difficult. We are all hoping that Arcsoft can release it's total media solution in English soon because it seems to pass hi def audio and have a better pic than Cyberlink. They may be having 'issues' with the US copy protection laws and who knows if and when we can have a software solution that lets us kick Cyberlink to the curb where it belongs.
HTPC has had the best image by far, but the more I mess with the 5000 the more I am impressed. I cannot reserve judgement as to whether the 5000 has met or surpassed HTPC image yet until I have the system relalibrated by Ken Whitcomb, and I won't spend the money to do that til I am convinced that the 5000 will do what it is supposed to do, pass hi def audio formats over analog and handle all of the new DRM infested movies.
"If you had it all to do over, and now having experienced the 5000's disk-play problems you've described, as well as the problems that HTPC entails, would you still buy the 5000?"
Heck yea. I have a feeling that all of these problems will get worked out. How old is the product anyway? All of one week:rolleyes:?
Thanks, Ed.
It's good to have posts from someone who has both a HTPC and a 5000. I look forward to reading how it works out for you on both fronts. In particular, I'm very interested to hear whether the 5000 in fact turns out to be "easier to own" than the HTPC.
edfowler 12-19-07, 10:06 PM without a doubt it is already easier to own.
HTPC has always had a lot of rewards for av enthusiasts, with probably more headaches.
: )
edfowler 12-20-07, 10:17 PM Anyone else have trouble with Hot Fuzz?
I put it in to see if I could see the black dots Eurotrance was talking about and the audio was scratching and popping and grating on my nerves so bad I had to get that disc out of there.
I don't remember hearing that 'hot fuzz' when I watched the movie before on my htpc.
Flyboys popped and cracked a little bit at first when I put it in.
I tried ff and going back to see if it went away but it did not. The bad audio was at the same points in the movie. It was worse when the protagonist left the bar and almost got run over by the drunk cop.
edit: the problem was that I was quickly checking the video without my ib subs turned on. I had the speakers set to large for l c r with lfe on. What I was hearing was distortion in my l and r speakers.
I assumed that I could send the whole signal and let the Z9 pass only stuff above 80hz, but by running straight out from the analogs it was sending all the lfe info to the front speakers > therefor distortion. My mistake. It played fine with speakers set to small.
gsearles 12-20-07, 10:50 PM *dons Blu-Ray fanboy hat* shoulda' got a PS3! :p *removes hat and rips into shreds*
You're right though. Every month I say "I'm going to ditch my PS3 for a stand-alone player", and month after month goes by that no other player comes out that I want to replace it with. Every new player lacks a feature or two, lots have glitches with certain titles, etc. I plan on keeping my PS3 quite a while longer, and I bet I'm not alone here in saying I never thought I'd have kept it for this long... It has played every disc I have ever thrown at it with absolutely not one measly, miniature problem of any sort.
edfowler, if you're up for it you should keep the first post in this thread up to date with a list.
Another addition, reported in the owners thread:
Planet Earth HD-DVD, problem using the scene selection.
I realize that's more of a "problem with a disc" rather than a "disc that will not play", but still, obviously a firmware issue, which could of course rear its head for other hd-dvd discs.
Thanks in advance.
thedukester 12-21-07, 07:10 PM FWIW mine played LFoDH just fine last night. I even stopped, started, paused, backed up and everything else you could do to it.
martin1406 12-21-07, 09:19 PM I just got my 5000 today and tried one bluray disc and then a hd disc. Neither would play and the system sound disc won't play. Then I put in a third bluray and it played beautifully fabulous pic a great sound. WOW. Then I put back the original 2 that would not play and they both did. Don't quite understand this.
However, i put in Casino Royale and it totally jammed the player and would not play at all. Had to wait 5 minutes before it opened.
Now watching LFODH and it works perfectly.
Very strange machine
eurotrance 12-21-07, 09:49 PM edfowler, if you're up for it you should keep the first post in this thread up to date with a list.
Another addition, reported in the owners thread:
Planet Earth HD-DVD, problem using the scene selection.
I realize that's more of a "problem with a disc" rather than a "disc that will not play", but still, obviously a firmware issue, which could of course rear its head for other hd-dvd discs.
Thanks in advance.
Actually, I created a thread entitled "discs the BD-UP5000 has problems with" to list these problems, but so far nobody has bothered posting in it...
edfowler 12-22-07, 12:16 AM found and fixed the problem I had with Hot Fuzz
2k4mach 12-22-07, 06:21 PM Live free or Die Hard and Mr and Mrs Smith played fine on my 5000.
I do have POTC AWE menu problem, but so far ever blu ray ive stuck in it has played.
Gonna try some more later tonight
On top of the Pixar shorts not working Ratatoullie is not working properly. It pops up a angle button on the screen and will come and go through the movie. It also stutters a lot throughout the movie.
... Ratatoullie is not working properly. It pops up a angle button on the screen and will come and go through the movie. It also stutters a lot throughout the movie.
System details:
Pioneer Elite 50” Plasma: Pro 1010HD
Pioneer Elite A/V Receiver: VSX-59TXI
Pioneer Elite DVD/CD Player: DV-59AVI
Def. Tech. Speakers: CLR2500BK, BP7004BK,
BP7006BK and BP2XBK &
M&K Subwoofer: V-125 (7.1)
Connections/Settings:
HDMI to Pro 1010HD: 1080i (haven’t tried 720p yet)
Optical to VSX 59TXI:
Bitstream (Audiophile)
PCM Down Sampling (Off)
Dynamic Compression (Off)
Speaker Setup (Large/LFE: On)
VSX 59TXI set to: Hi bit
Got the angle message and I couldn't stop or pause. Eventually, I had to power down to stop. No stuttering, though. Otherwise, excellent picture & audio.
Planet Earth Disc 3 didn't play, but Disc 4 played just fine.
anyone know when the firmware will be out to correct these problems?
RockStrongo 12-23-07, 06:40 PM So far the movies that either will not play or have navigation problems are:
Live Free or Die Hard
Pirates of the Caribbean AWE
any others not playing?
I played both of these movies (not all the way through) and they played fine on mine. I have the following and will try them too....
Die Hard
Ratattoulie
RockStrongo 12-23-07, 07:44 PM I have the following and will try them too....
Die Hard
Ratattoulie
Both played fine and the navigation seemed ok too. I did see the "Angle" message at the top of screen during Ratattoulie, but it went away.
Also, I have a Samsung display so maybe thats another reason mine works fine. Not sure.
RockStrongo 12-23-07, 07:57 PM I just confirmed in my player that Children of Men and Terminator (French release - director's cut disc) HD-DVDs started up fine.
So far, im really loving this player. I still need to test out the web features.
RockStrongo 12-23-07, 08:03 PM My homemade SW Ep 3 HD-DVD starts up and I can chapter through it fine. At the end of the disc though, it locks up....I think it doesnt know what to do. The XA2 would just restart the disc. I had to power down the player to get the disc out. Not a huge issue, but hopefully will be fixed.
audiomixer 12-26-07, 08:20 PM Mine won't even load "Pan's Labyrnth" Hd-DVD. I'm beginning to rethink my position on this player.
Yes-believe it or not the exclusivity is partially smoke and mirrors,
I own these 2 "Fox" titles on HD-DVD:D
Avaliable on HD-DVD:
Mr and Mrs Smith
Fantastic Four Rise of the Silver Surfer
Not avaliable on HD-DVD (Yet):
Live Free or Die Hard
HD-DVD? From Fox? :rolleyes:
johnsom 12-27-07, 12:55 AM Play fine with no problems:
Oceans Thirteen (BR)
Pirates of the Caribbean - At World's End (BR)
All of the DVD disks I've tried
Problems:
The Bourne Ultimatum (HD) - Many pauses and hiccups in playback
Even more of a reason to stay away from the HD-DVDs...
vinnie97 12-27-07, 01:23 AM Bourne Ultimatum worked fine on mine.
I'll stick with HD DVD, thanks, and ask that you put that justification based on your anecdote in a cold dark place.
SpenceJT 12-27-07, 11:47 AM ...posted 'Alerts' on their support page
http://www.samsung.com/us/support/main/supportSupportMain.do
tostitobandito 12-27-07, 01:35 PM Pirates AWE played just fine for me.
Also, the Matrix Trilogy HDDVD's and The Fifth Element BD were fine.
Just got my Blue Ray Live Free or Die Hard, works perfectly on my 5000! No navigational problems either!
optivity 12-27-07, 10:38 PM My BD-UP5000 does not play "28 Weeks Later" on Blu-ray Disc.
edfowler 12-28-07, 03:22 PM Balls of Fury HD dvd doesn't work but it is probably HDDVDs fault not the player
damian_BD-UP5000 12-30-07, 02:52 PM I am having similar playback/navigation issues on my BD-UP5000. It's a week old. Below are noted issues so far:
(1) Played HD Flags Of Our Fathers fairly well - although it chokes during reverse scanning - its jumpy and when play is pressed to revert to normal play it often pauses and hangs for up to 30 seconds before play continues. Sometimes it just hangs as if it is pausing and I must stop play altogether. This reverse scanning issue was consistent on all disks I have tried so far.
(2) Pop up menu for Flags Of Our Fathers did not give me movable cursor on several occasions. Otherwise playback and picture quality was very good.
(3) HD Planet Earth allows pop-up menu but navigation does not work - I can go through the process of selecting a chapter in the navigation but it does not "take" when I select a chapter. The pop-up menu disappears as if it is going to move to the correct chapter but nothing happens.
(4) Pressing STOP on all disks I have tried so far causes the player to restart from the beginning of the disk when pressing PLAY afterwards. The resume feature one would normally expect does not work. I have to leave the disk paused in order to resume playback. The "resume play" button does not seem to work at all.
I will post more issues as I come across them. Please post any others you may be having.
gggunderson 12-31-07, 01:11 AM Mine won't even load "Pan's Labyrnth" Hd-DVD. I'm beginning to rethink my position on this player.
Has anyone tried the BR of Pan's Labyrinth?
-- Garrett
Barbarian 01-01-08, 11:09 AM The 3:10 To Yuma Blu-ray on my Samsung has not gotten past the spinning gears screen that says "LOADING".
I may have posted this in the wrong thread before. I put it in the thread about problem discs.
The 3:10 To Yuma Blu-ray on my Samsung has not gotten past the spinning gears screen that says "LOADING".
I may have posted this in the wrong thread before. I put it in the thread about problem discs.
Have you had problems with other discs before?
audiomixer 01-01-08, 11:46 AM Have you had problems with other discs before?"Ratatoulle", "Pixar Short Films", "Pan's Labyrinth", now "3:10 To Yuma", some Fox titles on some players...Too quirky for me.
Is that the HD-DVD or BluRay version of Pan's Labyrinth that wouldn't play for you?
audiomixer 01-01-08, 12:11 PM Is that the HD-DVD or BluRay version of Pan's Labyrinth that wouldn't play for you?
HD-DVD. Won't even load. Plays just fine the Toshiba A35.
Does the BluRay version work?
Mia_Garcia 01-01-08, 12:38 PM Has anyone tried the BR of Pan's Labyrinth?
-- Garrett
BluRay version of Pan's Labyrinth played perfect for me.
Interesting side note:
The only available sound format is DTS-HD Master Audio. My receiver doesn't support Master Audio but instead played it as a normal DTS track.
That normal?
-Mia
Mia_Garcia 01-01-08, 01:16 PM I'm somewhat embarrassed to admit this, but my "The Fast and the Furious: Tokyo Drift" HD DVD version won't play at all. *blushes*
It is one of those "combo formats" disc (which I initially laughed at).
The DVD side plays perfect which looks great with the 5000's upconversion.
But the only reason to watch such a silly popcorn movie is for a stellar HD experience. The DVD side is a bit lacking in that department.
Mia
BluRay version of Pan's Labyrinth played perfect for me.
Interesting side note:
The only available sound format is DTS-HD Master Audio. My receiver doesn't support Master Audio but instead played it as a normal DTS track.
That normal?
-Mia
The 5k currently extracts the DTS core track from the DTS-HD/MA tracks and plays that.
Barbarian 01-01-08, 06:26 PM Have you had problems with other discs before?
I have only tried 3 discs so far; Balls of Fury HD-DVD, The Heartbreak Kid HD-DVD, and 3:10 To Yuma Blu-ray. I have quite a few discs in my collection that are suspect. LFODH and POTC:AWE are two that I will have to try, since they blow in my Samsung BDP-1200.
aeronaut 01-03-08, 11:00 AM Add:
Sunshine Bluray - audio no video
Resident Evil Ex - audio no video
Yes I know I have sunshine. Wal mart had it out early
So far have played "High School Musical 2" and "Ratatouille" on BD with no issues, great picture and sound via Toshiba 40RF350U. :)
Mia_Garcia 01-04-08, 12:46 AM Add:
Sunshine Bluray - audio no video
Resident Evil Ex - audio no video
Yes I know I have sunshine. Wal mart had it out early
Having problems with Resident Evil: Extinction as well.
"Play movie" accesses some sort of behind the scenes extra but the audio of the actual movie.
As of this moment, I'm unable to play the movie correctly to my dismay.
Mia
Having problems with Resident Evil: Extinction as well.
"Play movie" accesses some sort of behind the scenes extra but the audio of the actual movie.
As of this moment, I'm unable to play the movie correctly to my dismay.
Mia
It almost sounds like it is accessing the alternate stream intended for the 1.1 instead of the "main" video. Have you tried accessing the movie via "Scene Selection"?
Mia_Garcia 01-04-08, 01:54 AM It almost sounds like it is accessing the alternate stream intended for the 1.1 instead of the "main" video. Have you tried accessing the movie via "Scene Selection"?
Excellent suggestion! I did and it didn't.
For giggles, I tried a multitude of other option combinations... commentary on/off, PiP on/off, etc... no avail.
Thank you for your good intentions nonetheless. Very sweet.
Oh ya, little PS here...
I noticed when I push "stop" it plays the actual movie for 2 to 3 seconds before returning the Samsung screen.
At this rate, I could infact watch the entire movie... I'll just call in and ask for a week off work. :)
Mia
unbiased 01-04-08, 11:55 AM So far have played "High School Musical 2" and "Ratatouille" on BD with no issues, great picture and sound via Toshiba 40RF350U. :)
You did not get the "angle" icon popping up in some scene of Ratatouille and a slight audio hiccup?
What do you have the display Messages setting set to? on or off?
Thanks!
RockStrongo 01-04-08, 12:01 PM You did not get the "angle" icon popping up in some scene of Ratatouille and a slight audio hiccup?
What do you have the display Messages setting set to? on or off?
Thanks!
If you turn off the display messages, can you still pull up the info screen?
I need to test this with Ratatouille tonite.
vinnie97 01-05-08, 01:04 AM Both played fine and the navigation seemed ok too. I did see the "Angle" message at the top of screen during Ratattoulie, but it went away.
Also, I have a Samsung display so maybe thats another reason mine works fine. Not sure.
On Rat, were you able to return to the menu after starting playback of the movie? I had no such luck and after attempting to do so, the only button that was functional on the remote was the power button. I can confirm subtitles *DO NOT* work on Rat.
gully_foyle 01-05-08, 02:55 AM My BD-UP5000 has a build date of 2007/11 and says that it has the latest software and will not update the firmware.
So far the movies that either will not play or have navigation problems are:
Die Hard
Live Free or Die Hard
Mr and Mrs Smith
Fantastic Four Rise of the Silver Surfer
Planet Earth HD-DVD, problem using the scene selection
Pixar Shorts
Ratattoulie
Pirates of the Caribbean AWE
any others not playing?
Ummm .. bull*hit?
All the blu-rays on that list that I have play just fine on the BD-UP5000. Of course, I've got the November rev update. Just a click away by ethernet.
gully_foyle 01-05-08, 03:00 AM I(4) Pressing STOP on all disks I have tried so far causes the player to restart from the beginning of the disk when pressing PLAY afterwards. The resume feature one would normally expect does not work. I have to leave the disk paused in order to resume playback. The "resume play" button does not seem to work at all.Standard behavior of HD DVD on all players. Blu and SD play from stopped position.
haggisbingo 01-05-08, 09:10 AM Tried numerous times, it says:
WARNING: This player is not equipped with the latest firmware and is unable to play this disc. Please visit your manufacturer's website and follow their instructions on how to install the firmware on your player.
For more information on Blu-ray and firmware updates please visit www.foxbd.com/cs
My player info:
S/W:071108.02_1114_0924.11_XAA
Region: A/1 (BD/DVD)
Output to DVI
This is the first disc I've had a problem with after trying about 30
SpenceJT 01-05-08, 10:12 AM My BD-UP5000 has a build date of 2007/11 and says that it has the latest software and will not update the firmware.
So far the movies that either will not play or have navigation problems are:
Die Hard
Live Free or Die Hard
Mr and Mrs Smith
Fantastic Four Rise of the Silver Surfer
Planet Earth HD-DVD, problem using the scene selection
Pixar Shorts
Ratattoulie
Pirates of the Caribbean AWE
any others not playing?
Ummm .. bull*hit?
All the blu-rays on that list that I have play just fine on the BD-UP5000. Of course, I've got the November rev update. Just a click away by ethernet.
One person's report shouldn't receive a response calling him a liar in such a way!
We have all seen a number of discs that have issues playing on some 5000's and not others.
Please try and be a bit more respectful to others.
vinnie97 01-05-08, 11:45 AM Yup, I'd like to know if kcmurphy did anything other than load the disc and start playback of the movie in the case of Rat, then turn it off to reach his conclusion. I've seen a consensus so far in the case of dodgy navigation (good luck trying to get to the menu once the menu begins) and movie angle icon pop-ups during the movie itself.
longshot94 01-05-08, 11:07 PM my 5000 has a build date of 12/2007 and came with the newest firmware already on it and all of the discs I have that others have listed at being problematic or don't play work just fine for me.
Guess I should consider myself lucky.
vinnie97 01-06-08, 03:01 AM ^Can you list those discs? Thanks.
24fanatic 01-06-08, 03:23 AM Considering on buying the 5000 here. Not gonna buy a stand alone Blu Ray player for the same price that has no ethernet port (feel really bad for those who bought the older versions but now cant play 1.1 discs). Has anyone tried any of Universal's HD DVD combo discs on the player such as Bourne Ultimatum or The Good Shepherd? The combo discs has serious playback issues with 3rd gen of HD DVD players.
vinnie97 01-06-08, 04:49 AM Re: Combos, Bourne Ultimatum played without a hitch...also had no problems with TMNT (only watched about 10 minutes and skipped to a few chapters, however). I'll be trying out Flags of Our Fathers, Children of Men, Breach and Evan Almighty soonish.
AznNintendoFan1 01-06-08, 07:09 AM Luckily for me, I have no problem playing any Fox studios movies. BUT, I did have a problem with only ONE disc or set of discs. And that was from the Star Trek: The original series season 1 HD-DVD combo set. It wouldn't play one disc and the next it kept hiccuping or skipping. So far I've been able to play everything EXCEPT this. Transformers was just fine on my player. So I dont know if it's the discs or the player. Someone help me on this?
gully_foyle 01-06-08, 09:02 PM One person's report shouldn't receive a response calling him a liar in such a way!
We have all seen a number of discs that have issues playing on some 5000's and not others.
Please try and be a bit more respectful to others.
Sorry for the bluntness. Should have phrased that better.
I was more than a little concerned getting this player with all the negative comments (like this thread), and I am happy to find that most of the problems were overstated. At least for my player, in my setup with the November code.
But the thread is titled "Movies BD-UP5000 will not play", when in fact it will play at least some of them (and all that I own) at least into the opening credits. Now, perhaps there are some odd issues, but they DO play, so I'm probably not the only one who could have phrased things better.
ILLBEBECK 01-07-08, 03:24 AM Just got my 5K a few days ago. Build date shows 11/07. First disk I put in was Ratatouille. Once that things starts playing, you can't stop it, pause it, fast forward, eject, etc. Neither from using the remote or directly on the player. Only button that would work was the power switch. Prior to play, I was able to navigate the menu, but if I hit play (or skipped to a chapter and hit play), the aforementioned problem happened.
I called Samsung level 2 tech support, and they informed me that they have had several problems with this title, but since this player is only two weeks old, there were no firmware updates at this time.
Next I put in the HD of Batman Begins and it played fine, although no resume play function. I was told by Samsung tech support that this function does not exist in the HD world, although in my Toshiba's instruction manual it claims that HD discs that are advanced (which was indicated by ADV light on that player) are the only discs that lack this feature. The tech support guy boasted that BD discs can indeed resume play.
That being said, I decided to test this theory and put in the BD of Teminator. Sure enough, resume play worked! So I hung up the phone with the tech support guy. Murphy's law- next was the BD of Spiderman 3, which played fine BUT the resume did not work (even tried using the "resume" button at the bottom of the remote). I then read somewhere that the coding on more "advanced" discs (both BD and HD) lack the resume function.
I'm going to try a few other titles tomorrow including LFoDH, and I'll report back.
I really hope they get the problems fixed with this player as it looks sweet and it sure is nice to not have a slew of equipment on my rack. I'd hate to return it......
SpenceJT 01-07-08, 07:11 AM Sorry for the bluntness. Should have phrased that better.
I was more than a little concerned getting this player with all the negative comments (like this thread), and I am happy to find that most of the problems were overstated. At least for my player, in my setup with the November code.
But the thread is titled "Movies BD-UP5000 will not play", when in fact it will play at least some of them (and all that I own) at least into the opening credits. Now, perhaps there are some odd issues, but they DO play, so I'm probably not the only one who could have phrased things better.
Please don't apologize by writing your comment off as being 'blunt', and then point out that the thread is at fault.
Explain to us how the title of the thread Movies BD-UP5000 will not play is somehow equally as inflammatory or as rude as your Ummm .. bull*hit?
I'm probably not the only one who could have phrased things better.
I've got a 5 year old who tries to use the "he did it too" defense. Please be bigger than that sir.
Here is why. I doubt many of us have more than a single BD-UP5000 to test with, we each have our own individual reality.
The creator of this thread gave it a simple and accurate title. Is it correct for each person? Apparently not, but it brings to light many playback issues with the Samsung.
Does this make the poster stating that his given list of movies that did not play wrong? Not if they 'did not play' for him . As a point in fact, for those with DVDs that do not play in their players, this thread is aptly titled.
A posting simply stating;
"I had no problems playing these titles"
...or something to the effect of
"they all play fine for me, could there be something you can check in your settings?"
would be what most polite individuals posting in this forum.
It is certainly more civil than "bull*hit?", which was not so much "blunt" as it is rude and disrespectful.
gully_foyle 01-07-08, 11:54 AM Well, Spence, I guess we see things differently. I see calling the player broken because it "won't play" titles to be both rude and wrong. There are lots of folks nervous about what they go to to preserve their large HD DVD disc collection now that the war is over, and it HELPS NO ONE to have a thread making what appear to be incorrect claims.
I simply responded to the flat-out assertion in the thread title that the player is broken with NO IT ISN'T! Was that claim stated more strongly than it could have been? Certainly. Was it more or less true than claiming that the BD-UP "won't play" discs? IMHO, the thread title is demonstrably false.
ILLBEBECK 01-07-08, 06:13 PM LFoDH update. This played fine on my 5K, although there appears to be no "resume play" function available for this disc (same issue I had mentioned in above post re: my Spiderman 3 and HD discs) . I'll try POTC AWE later......
SpenceJT 01-07-08, 06:55 PM I am currently viewing The Bourne Ultimatum, which has played without error so far. I took a phone call and paused it, and later looked up to a Universal 'screen saver' which had apparently kicked in. It was the first time I'd seen a screen saver while paused.
Kind of cool! :)
kcmurphy88? We do indeed see things differently, and agree to disagree. Cheers!
Spence
Barbarian 01-08-08, 10:56 AM I could not load Mr Bean's Holiday HDDVD at all. I had to power cycle the player just to eject it.
dlm10541 01-08-08, 05:56 PM Mine has played all that has been thrown at it until tonite . Tried Sunshine (another Fox title)with major problems-first no picture but had audio. Then big black box in bottom quadrant. Never could get it to play properly.
Tried with my BD30 Panny and no problem
haggisbingo 01-08-08, 07:55 PM Was looking forward to 7.1 LPCM on "3:10 to Yuma" but it seems to be stuck on the Loading screen. Anyone else with this prob??
dscott01 01-08-08, 09:06 PM I also cannot get the movie to play. All the intro trailers play fine, I'm stuck at the screen where I should hit play. The problem is that I can't hit play. Anyone have any ideas?
haggisbingo 01-08-08, 09:20 PM I also cannot get the movie to play. All the intro trailers play fine, I'm stuck at the screen where I should hit play. The problem is that I can't hit play. Anyone have any ideas?
I don't even get that far - just the Loading screen with the little gears moving
3:10 to Yuma just goes to loading screen for me too. I'm about to throw this thing in the trash. can't even return the movie cause I opened it. what a scam.
Well I tried FFROTSS and the only "glitch" I saw was in the trailer for The Simpsons. Was a momentary things I pressed FFWD and it went away, I was able to play the movie (I didnt watch it though) and select items from the menu. I should be getting Sunshine this week so I will update when I try that.
When the movie starts playing if you press the "info" button you should see a chapter menu and more open up on the left hand side. Try changing the chapters that way to see if that helps. This is another way to switch titles\chapters while the disc is playing.
dscott01 01-09-08, 12:18 AM I'm able to play Sunshine and every other BR movie, just 3:10 to Yuma won't let me select play. Its not a faulty disc because I've download the Blu-Ray as well as trying to play the disc and same issue. no deal. Its strange that more people aren't complaining about it
:(
Cnd Joe 01-09-08, 12:34 AM Ok I'm a HD DVD fan, but come on.. I was looking into buying a DF player and all I see/read are ppl saying this or that BR movie doesn't work in my player. Is it the MEDIA that is the problem or is it the MACHINE? I hope to god its not the media, cause it would be sad if the "winning"format isn't even standardized so every stand alone can play it with out problems.
Am I one of the lucky guys with an A3 that has no problems playing any HD DVD movie?
cgauntt 01-09-08, 12:52 AM I'm very disappointed to add that my 5000 will not play 3:10 to Yuma. I only get to the turning gears and don't even get to the trailers. I have a PS3 hooked up in the same setup and the disc played absolutely perfectly on this machine. This is the first disc my 5000 hasn't been able to play (it has worked with Pirates of the Caribbean - AWE and POTC-DMC, Bourne Ultimatum, Ratitouille, Cars, Pixar Shorts, RV, Chicago, Live Free or Die Hard and some others.) Only 3:10 to Yuma is a dud. Bummer!
Ok I'm a HD DVD fan, but come on.. I was looking into buying a DF player and all I see/read are ppl saying this or that BR movie doesn't work in my player. Is it the MEDIA that is the problem or is it the MACHINE? I hope to god its not the media, cause it would be sad if the "winning"format isn't even standardized so every stand alone can play it with out problems.
Am I one of the lucky guys with an A3 that has no problems playing any HD DVD movie?
The only bad thing is that we have to different threads with similar posts, but different problems in the OP.
So far though this player has only had real trouble with the Planet Earth HD DVD, where it couldnt "jump" from the menu to the movie(only with individual scene selection "play all" will work). For some reason I think this has to do with the way the disc was authored.
All the other discs I have put in it have played just fine. I think we need to be careful BOTH sides have had their fair share of problematic discs\players.
3:10 to Yuma is a no go here, just the gears turning. It is a NetFlix disc so suppose I could hold on to it till May.....:rolleyes: Think they would mind? Hate to send it back it looks like no one has fingered it yet!
lalittle 01-09-08, 03:57 AM 3:10 to Yuma is a no go here, just the gears turning. It is a NetFlix disc so suppose I could hold on to it till May.....:rolleyes: Think they would mind? Hate to send it back it looks like no one has fingered it yet!
Why would you want to hold on to it that long? Wouldn't you rather get OTHER titles that WILL play on this unit?
Personally, I feel that given Netflix's low stock on HD media, it would be a bit selfish to hang onto the disc for so long. I think you should let some other people have a chance to see this film.
Larry
haggisbingo 01-09-08, 07:36 AM I'm able to play Sunshine and every other BR movie, just 3:10 to Yuma won't let me select play. Its not a faulty disc because I've download the Blu-Ray as well as trying to play the disc and same issue. no deal. Its strange that more people aren't complaining about it
:(
Apparently it works in other players :(
Why would you want to hold on to it that long? Wouldn't you rather get OTHER titles that WILL play on this unit?
Personally, I feel that given Netflix's low stock on HD media, it would be a bit selfish to hang onto the disc for so long. I think you should let some other people have a chance to see this film.
Larry
I was being a bit flipant, but thought that would have been obvious with the little blue, eyes raised, smilies dude. Of course I will send it back! ...Sheesh
Victor Bergman 01-09-08, 03:52 PM I thought I'd find the member here who complained about the Star Trek TOS Remastered S. 1 HD DVD on the UP5000. They posted to the owner's forum instead.
I have this set, and will receive my BD-UP5000 shortly, so I'm looking forward to playing the HD DVD side of this combo pack. If I end up having playback problems such as the repeating loops they described, I'd like to be able know if the discs are at fault, or whether the player is just in need of the much-anticipated firmware update to play them. Any here playing this set on their UP5000?
SpenceJT 01-09-08, 05:16 PM If it is any consolation, the LG BH100 combo player was having nearly exacty the same issues with many of the same titles that we Samsung owners are seeing.
Originally Posted by The Doc
It seems to have fixed Pirates, since the movie started up from the main menu as it should. Didn't watch the entire movie yet, so I don't know if any problems will crop during the film.
I can confirm that the new firmware also fixed these discs as well:
Ratatouille - angle icon fixed
Cars - game now works
Live Free or Die Hard - don't know if this one had problems or not, but it played perfectly fine with the new firmware
Have yet to check Meet the Robinsons but since it was the same angle icon issue that Ratatouille was dealing with, I would assume this is fixed as well.
Overall, a superior piece of firmware from LG, my hats off to 'em as they seemed to have fixed the problems that persisted after the November update. They've certainly made one of their customers very happy with this update.
carljanderson 01-09-08, 05:19 PM If it is any consolation, the LG BH100 combo player was having nearly exacty the same issues with many of the same titles that we Samsung owners are seeing.
I would have a greater warm and fuzzy if it was the 200 though, since they share the same hardware platform. :) :p
^^^ The cynic in me.
OK well I tried Sunshine and had the same issues as others here. I WAS able to get video though by pressing the chapter skip button. I found that the player was playing both streams (PIP and movie) at the same time. I didnt know how to shut off the PiP screen though. I am thinking that this is whats causing the issues with this title.
Besides that everything is OK so far.
seggers 01-09-08, 08:17 PM So after watching the LG 100 come and go, followed by the 200, I finally went and bought the UP5000. It seemed to have better features and just looked way better.
I bought 3 HD DVDs - Aeon Flux, Clerks II and Top Gun (all on offer at Best Buy). I also bought 4 BDs (all different).
Stuck in my BD version of Cars and eventually managed to get my jaw off the floor. What a great picture and film.
Stuck in HD DVD Aeon Flux and nearly flung the player through the wall. I ended up having to power off/on the player in at least 2 different places in the film.
Thankfully a friend of mine (thanks Rich) is going to test out my AE disc on his 5000 and let me know what occurs. If the disc fecks on his then BB will replace it. If it doesn't, then maybe I'll get shot of the 5000 and go for the LG unit.
Or, considering that HD-DVD is pretty much DOA, maybe I'll just go after a Sony BD player and be done with it.
However, I will be testing my other discs as well.
Sigh, being on the leading edge is never easy...... :)
seggers 01-09-08, 08:55 PM So I went stuck CLerks II in and guess what? More s**ding issues. Within the first couple of minutes, theere was visual glitches including one that took up half the screen.
So I ran it back to about where I thought I saw the first one. And then the f-ing player locked up. No response from the remote or buttons.
Power off time, load up (which I don't think is really that bad) and restart. No screen issues seen again and so far after being on for about 8 mins no other issues.
Sigh.
vinnie97 01-11-08, 01:46 AM Just confirming the Pan's Labyrinth playback failure. It's the first disc I've tried that simply won't play. I wonder what New Line did with their final HD DVD that is tripping up this player. 3:10 to Yuma is another title I want and am disappointed to hear the hardware won't play it.:mad:
Just confirming the Pan's Labyrinth playback failure. It's the first disc I've tried that simply won't play. I wonder what New Line did with their final HD DVD that is tripping up this player. 3:10 to Yuma is another title I want and am disappointed to hear the hardware won't play it.:mad:
3:10 is a 1.1 profile disc right same as Sunshine? The reason I ask this is that the player seems to be having issues with the PiP feed on the disc. When I did get Sunshine to play the PiP was "stuck" and I wasnt able to remove it. The player could be getting "confused" with the streams. This along with the RE3 problems makes me think this.
coreymd 01-11-08, 03:40 AM Stuck in HD DVD Aeon Flux and nearly flung the player through the wall. I ended up having to power off/on the player in at least 2 different places in the film.
Can you describe what happened that forced you to cycle the power? I have a problem with Harry Potter Order of the Phoenix (HD-DVD) where the video freezes while the audio continues. Happens at random points in the movie, with and without PiP going. Also requires a power off/on to correct. Is this what you're experiencing?
-Corey
Can you describe what happened that forced you to cycle the power? I have a problem with Harry Potter Order of the Phoenix (HD-DVD) where the video freezes while the audio continues. Happens at random points in the movie, with and without PiP going. Also requires a power off/on to correct. Is this what you're experiencing?
-Corey
Have you tried skipping chapters? I also found that if you press the "info" button that change the chapter that way it can clear things up as well. Ill have to try out HP OOtP and see if anything glitchy happens.
vinnie97 01-11-08, 10:44 AM 3:10 is a 1.1 profile disc right same as Sunshine? The reason I ask this is that the player seems to be having issues with the PiP feed on the disc. When I did get Sunshine to play the PiP was "stuck" and I wasnt able to remove it. The player could be getting "confused" with the streams. This along with the RE3 problems makes me think this.
I heard Sunshine is 1.1 but have not heard such regarding Yuma.
coreymd 01-11-08, 01:58 PM Have you tried skipping chapters? I also found that if you press the "info" button that change the chapter that way it can clear things up as well. Ill have to try out HP OOtP and see if anything glitchy happens.
I'll try skipping chapters and hitting the INFO button. I did try to bring up the menu, for which I heard the "swish" sound, but the video remained frozen.
Thanks.
seggers 01-11-08, 09:19 PM Erm, without wishing to appear sarchy, I was watching the film.....
It had reached the point where Aeon has had her battle with whathisface's firend in the lab and has escaped through the portal in the wall. The black woman is pursuing through the same tunnels and you start to hear a squeaky grate.
She and the guards stop, look up and the camera pans up to the air vent and the grate. Then it stops. Period.
No button on the remote responds, neither does any on the player itself. Actually, contradicting myself, the only button that did work was the power on/off.
Funnily enough, I did try skipping to just about that point got past that one. However, it did the same later on (I forget where). This also forced a power off.
A friend of mine who also has a 5k is now looking at the disc.
I have also had issues with Clerks II. There were a few screen glitches early on in the film (like before the firefighters have left), which didn't come back when I went back and replayed that section of the disc. There was a massive transistion pause at 1hr 4mins and 43 sec. I didn't think HD DVDs were dual layer. I went back, via the remote, and played through it again. Same thing happened at the same time.
Both disc were brand new and I didn't put any sticky paw marks on them, promise.
I have the player hooked up, via Dynex 6' HDMI, to my Song KDF 1080i LCD RP. The player ad set the resi to 1080i and 60Hz refresh and I left well alone. The player is also hooked up to my Denon 2802 (yes, an oldie) via a 4' Monster 600 Optical Cable (hopes no one starts on me about relative merits of other cables :) ). Receiver is 6.1 and is set to output in 6.1. The player is set to bitstream/audiophile.
BTW, showing my ignorance on these things, why is 24fps refresh rate better than 60? Just curious.
seggers 01-11-08, 09:55 PM I also can't type.... ;-)
I heard Sunshine is 1.1 but have not heard such regarding Yuma.
Looks like Yuma is 1.1 as well.
http://www.highdefdigest.com/news/show/Disc_Announcements/Lionsgate/3:10_to_Yuma_Blu-ray_Goes_Profile_1.1/1183
I am wondering is the player is having issues with the secondary video feeds and its mucking everything up.
Erm, without wishing to appear sarchy, I was watching the film.....
It had reached the point where Aeon has had her battle with whathisface's firend in the lab and has escaped through the portal in the wall. The black woman is pursuing through the same tunnels and you start to hear a squeaky grate.
She and the guards stop, look up and the camera pans up to the air vent and the grate. Then it stops. Period.
No button on the remote responds, neither does any on the player itself. Actually, contradicting myself, the only button that did work was the power on/off.
Funnily enough, I did try skipping to just about that point got past that one. However, it did the same later on (I forget where). This also forced a power off.
A friend of mine who also has a 5k is now looking at the disc.
I have also had issues with Clerks II. There were a few screen glitches early on in the film (like before the firefighters have left), which didn't come back when I went back and replayed that section of the disc. There was a massive transistion pause at 1hr 4mins and 43 sec. I didn't think HD DVDs were dual layer. I went back, via the remote, and played through it again. Same thing happened at the same time.
Both disc were brand new and I didn't put any sticky paw marks on them, promise.
I have the player hooked up, via Dynex 6' HDMI, to my Song KDF 1080i LCD RP. The player ad set the resi to 1080i and 60Hz refresh and I left well alone. The player is also hooked up to my Denon 2802 (yes, an oldie) via a 4' Monster 600 Optical Cable (hopes no one starts on me about relative merits of other cables :) ). Receiver is 6.1 and is set to output in 6.1. The player is set to bitstream/audiophile.
BTW, showing my ignorance on these things, why is 24fps refresh rate better than 60? Just curious.
I dont have Aeon Flux, but I do have Clerks II so I can check that one out and see if I have the same issues.
coreymd 01-12-08, 12:59 AM Hitting INFO and skipping chapters didn't work for me. Video still frozen on a single frame while I listen to the movie's audio and skip around the chapters.
vinnie97 01-12-08, 02:20 AM It had reached the point where Aeon has had her battle with whathisface's firend in the lab and has escaped through the portal in the wall. The black woman is pursuing through the same tunnels and you start to hear a squeaky grate.
She and the guards stop, look up and the camera pans up to the air vent and the grate. Then it stops. Period.
No button on the remote responds, neither does any on the player itself. Actually, contradicting myself, the only button that did work was the power on/off.
Funnily enough, I did try skipping to just about that point got past that one. However, it did the same later on (I forget where). This also forced a power off.
That's interesting...I'll have to view this flick again to check for similar behavior (I saw it last on the 360 add-on).
vinnie97 01-12-08, 02:21 AM Looks like Yuma is 1.1 as well.
http://www.highdefdigest.com/news/show/Disc_Announcements/Lionsgate/3:10_to_Yuma_Blu-ray_Goes_Profile_1.1/1183
I am wondering is the player is having issues with the secondary video feeds and its mucking everything up.
Ah drat, no wonder it's not functioning right. ;) All I can say is 2.0 discs had better not behave similarly on 1.1 players...or else the BDA will have hell to pay.
Hitting INFO and skipping chapters didn't work for me. Video still frozen on a single frame while I listen to the movie's audio and skip around the chapters.
Hmmmmmm, that sucks :(....
Ah drat, no wonder it's not functioning right. ;) All I can say is 2.0 discs had better not behave similarly on 1.1 players...or else the BDA will have hell to pay.
Shhhhh I dont want to even think about 2.0, lets get 1.0 and 1.1 right 1st ;). Well hopefully they will fix some of these issues people have been having it would be nice to watch Sunshine, but I have enough movies unwatched where I can wait.
*dons Blu-Ray fanboy hat* shoulda' got a PS3! :p *removes hat and rips into shreds*
It's true. The PS3 was the only choice for a first player. Soon we'll have nice replacements for it, but now is not the time. I'm HTPC and PS3 only now. I can wait for a good DF player.
seggers 01-13-08, 03:31 PM First the good news.
My sub-woofer has just had a fantastic work out.... :)
If not already done so, I can add one more burnable disc type to the list. I have a Fujifilm DVD+R DL that was burnt as a DVD Video from Nero 6 and it played pretty much without fault.
I played a couple of SD-DVDs and they also pretty much played without fault. There were a couple of times when the disc stopped (and my heart was in my mouth), but they continued on.
Now the bad news.
As titled, Top Gun didn't.
Chap2, 5:41 video glitch. No audio break up, didn't happen again.
Chap3, 15:44 total freeze up. We were at Mira Mar, with the text on the screen and the bike in the top left. I had long enough to go get paper, pen and write all this down.
Having read other posts on the 'feature', I took this oppotunity to test *every* button on the remote. I can confirm that the player did not respond to info etc (including all the tv buttons etc) and it did not respond to the buttons on the unit itself. It was power off time.
So I started it back up, jumped to before that area and the film ran to the end without further issue.
After this, I put in the TOS disc and confirmed ep2 as being unplayable.
I put TG back in and changed audio tracks. I went from DD 5.1 to DTS 7 channel. Film went straight through. So I stopped and restarted the film, confirmed that the audio was back at 5.1 and let it go. And it just went past that time.
So, I'm going to turn the player off and turn it on tomorrow night and see what it does.
More discs for my friend Rich to try......
Seggers
Quote: Another addition, reported in the owners thread:
Planet Earth HD-DVD, problem using the scene selection.
I realize that's more of a "problem with a disc" rather than a "disc that will not play", but still, obviously a firmware issue, which could of course rear its head for other hd-dvd discs.
Not only can I not select chapters from the main menu (simply kicks in the opening menu sequence of photos and music) but it has frozen the player completely about 15 minutes into playing the disc (tried several different areas on the disc by jumping chapters using the ">>" button). I have to completely power off the player to get it unfrozen, can't even open the tray to abort the disc.
Are these same issues present with the blu-ray version?
Bob
ILLBEBECK 01-13-08, 11:07 PM 3:10 to Yuma just goes to loading screen for me too. I'm about to throw this thing in the trash. can't even return the movie cause I opened it. what a scam.
Couldn't get any further than the loading screen on "3:10" either- just sits there with the gears turning. Not going to return the movie though, since it is a great flick and will either play on the 5000 after a FW update, or a different machine should I chose to return it (which I am still on the fence about doing).
Also finally tried PotCAWE and it played fine. Suberbad played fine, but could not access the disc menu once the film was playing (somewhat similar to the prob I had w/ Ratatouille, although with that one, none of the functions worked once the film was playing- except the power button).
Hairspray played fine for what it's worth.
I'm still on the fence because it seems that a lot of Blu-Ray DVDs are coming with a note inside stating that discs may not play on certain players until FW updates have been completed- so there you have it right there. Ideally, all of these movies should play eventually. It's just a trade-off: you can have one DF player and the convenience of one remote, one component (ie. more rack space), and not having to think which disc goes in which player, BUT be prepared not to be able to play some of the newer movies RIGHT when they first come out.
PS. I was just at CES and of course there was no one there to comment as to when a FW update would be available.
Quote: Another addition, reported in the owners thread:
Planet Earth HD-DVD, problem using the scene selection.
I realize that's more of a "problem with a disc" rather than a "disc that will not play", but still, obviously a firmware issue, which could of course rear its head for other hd-dvd discs.
Not only can I not select chapters from the main menu (simply kicks in the opening menu sequence of photos and music) but it has frozen the player completely about 15 minutes into playing the disc (tried several different areas on the disc by jumping chapters using the ">>" button). I have to completely power off the player to get it unfrozen, can't even open the tray to abort the disc.
Are these same issues present with the blu-ray version?
Bob
Bob try using the "INFO" button, tyhat should bring up a chapter list and you should be able to skik chapters that way. I ahve tried this on disks like Sunshine and it seems that this one works when others do not.
The problem with the HD DVD version of Planet Earth (IMO) is with the way the menues are done. The "Play All" will work, but scene selection does not (menu just disapears, I had to get use the INFO button to restart the chapter). THis is just my opinoin though and may not be the actual problem. I believe there is someone on here who was able to watch the discs all the way through after pressing "play all".
SpenceJT 01-17-08, 07:47 AM ...and we have LIFTOFF! What a great morning it is ladies and gentlemen!
Firmware downloaded, processed and update completed!
It took a good 20 minutes for mine to download, then another 5 minutes for it to process. I've got 10MB service via Charter Cable (speed tests show an average download capacity of 8MB).
Good news! 3:10 to Yuma is now playing (or rather the trailer for RAMBO and Lords of War). No time to step through the movie, but this is highly encouraging!
Just put Resident Evil Extinction, and I am now watching the Blu-ray trailer!!!
I've already read that this '1.0' is not perfect, but it is a step in the right direction.
Now I've got one BIG question for Samsung. ...'v1.0'?!?! are you FRAKKING KIDDING ME?!!
Come on Samsung, you don't release 'alpha' versions to the general populace! That is just asking for a backlash!
Mr. Engadget with the review product? Wakey wakey! Time to get to work!!! :D
P.S. Resident Evil 3 is now playing!!! Looking forward to reports on Sunshine and other titles that were not playing.
Keeping my BD-UP5000! :)
Mia_Garcia 01-18-08, 12:42 AM I'm somewhat embarrassed to admit this, but my "The Fast and the Furious: Tokyo Drift" HD DVD version won't play at all. *blushes*
It is one of those "combo formats" disc (which I initially laughed at).
The DVD side plays perfect which looks great with the 5000's upconversion.
But the only reason to watch such a silly popcorn movie is for a stellar HD experience. The DVD side is a bit lacking in that department.
Mia
Having problems with "Resident Evil: Extinction" as well.
"Play movie" accesses some sort of behind the scenes extra but the audio of the actual movie.
As of this moment, I'm unable to play the movie correctly to my dismay.
Mia
Update:
The latest Firmware (1.0) fixed both these movies for me.
Color me happy!!
Mia
Mia_Garcia 01-18-08, 12:49 AM Looking forward to reports on Sunshine
"Sunshine" up and running!!
*Mia's stamp of approval* :D
Mia
Edit:
Well... *shakes her white-out bottle*
I'm afraid I need to remove my stamp of approval.
I got greedy and attempted to watch chapter 2.
The 5000 was not pleased.
Completely frozen. Power off and on "fixes" the problem until 4:46 is again reached in chapter 2.
So I thought to myself, "Moving on, how important could chapter 2 be anyways..." and advanced to chapter 3. Was smooth sailing until 12:46 when it froze again.
Very well could possibly be a disc error. I'm not ruling that out.
In any case, moving on... how important could chapter 3 be anyways?...
Mia
Die hard bluray movies still don't work with new firmware 1.0 :(
aeronaut 01-18-08, 02:20 AM Watched about 3 minutes of sunshine in bitstream audio... then the audio started to shutter. reset to pcm and watched again. did have sound thru out the movie but had static here and there. There still is and audio problem. Started watching the web extras and after the 4th one total lost of all audio. Had to turn off the player then back on. Watched them all after skipping the first four no problem. went back to the first four and watch them. I think it was the 3 or 4th one started getting pixels through out the video. Not sure want caused the lose of PCM audio.
oh by the way it was after the firmware update 1.0
vinnie97 01-18-08, 02:37 AM Hey guys, no offense to the OP but we have another thread here by user Eurotrance that is being regularly updated with the latest corroborated findings on all problematic discs, making the present one a bit redundant not to mention outdated: http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=958595
It might be a good idea to move over to that thread for all playback problems and/or for the mods to merge this thread into that one.
Hey guys, no offense to the OP but we have another thread here by user Eurotrance that is being regularly updated with the latest corroborated findings on all problematic discs, making the present one a bit redundant: http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=958595
It might be a good idea to move over to that thread for all playback problems and/or for the mods to merge this thread into that one.
I totally agree with you here, while I can see the point of both of them (1 id for discs that wont play, the other is for discs that it has issues with) it seems that we are getting similar posts in both threads.
vinnie97 01-18-08, 04:08 AM Yup, not to mention Ed may have no reason to update this thread anymore. His last post on the topic (2 weeks ago): http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=12690890#post12690890
Mines going back tomorrow.
-won't play fox titles.
-crushes blacks.
-audio static over analog outs.
hope I just got a bad unit.
dougotte 01-24-08, 02:59 PM Bourne Ultimatum combo solution
I just had problems w/ a Netflix copy of this disc. Tried 3 times, and received "can't read disc" message before the 5k spit it out. The disc does have some tiny scratches on the HD-DVD side. I tried the DVD side - no worries.
Then I went to the setup menu, and changed the "Dual Layer Disc" setting (or whatever it's called). It was set to HD-DVD, so I changed it to DVD. The disc now plays with no problems!
I'm guessing those that haven't had problems already had it set correctly.
Regards,
Doug
EDIT: I'm not sure I found the solution now. I put it in last night for the family to watch, and it wouldn't load. I powered off/on, ejected, and checked the Dual Format Disc setting - it was still at DVD as I last set it. I changed it to HD-DVD then back to DVD, inserted the disc, and the movie loaded and played flawlessly to the end.
Now I'm thinking that setting didn't affect it, but it's another disc where multiple loads will convince the 5k to play it.
mortifer 01-26-08, 11:40 PM I am hoping it is a bad disk from netflix, but I got about 46m into Mr. Brooks tonight and it just started getting jumpy etc. I tried stopping and restarting, skipping to a new chapter, powering off and then unplugging with no luck. I cannot get to any chapter past 16, even if selected from the main menu. I have seen that others have played this without any problems, so I am really hoping a different disk will play. The surface of the disk looked fine with no fingerprints or smudges.
Just wanted to put this on the thread in case others had this problem too, but haven't spoken out yet.
Has anyone figured out how to use the Resume-Play function?
Does it work the same when watching Blu-Ray and HD-DVD?
PS: Just rented and watched 3:10 to Yuma, this has to have
been the best sounding movie I've watched to date on my 5000!
The first movie that I could actually hear destinct sound
coming from each of my 7.1 rear speakers. And my Yamaha
receiver came-up with some long Dolby decode messages I've
never seen before. Excellent!
Talk2Me 05-14-08, 01:08 PM Has anyone figured out how to use the Resume-Play function?
Does it work the same when watching Blu-Ray and HD-DVD?
PS: Just rented and watched 3:10 to Yuma, this has to have
been the best sounding movie I've watched to date on my 5000!
The first movie that I could actually hear destinct sound
coming from each of my 7.1 rear speakers. And my Yamaha
receiver came-up with some long Dolby decode messages I've
never seen before. Excellent!
Do you mean the pause button or the stop button.On my 5000 if I hit stop and then play-it starts from the beginning again.So if I want to go cook or whatever,I only hit the pause button and turn the screen off.Then come back and hit play .
Has anyone figured out how to use the Resume-Play function?
Does it work the same when watching Blu-Ray and HD-DVD?
PS: Just rented and watched 3:10 to Yuma, this has to have
been the best sounding movie I've watched to date on my 5000!
The first movie that I could actually hear destinct sound
coming from each of my 7.1 rear speakers. And my Yamaha
receiver came-up with some long Dolby decode messages I've
never seen before. Excellent!
There is no such thing as resume play for HD DVDs, you would have to set a bookmark in order to resumewhere you left off. I believe for the Blu-rays you have to use the "Resume" button in order to use that feature.. Remember though not every disc has this feature so it may not always be available....
Bourne Ultimatum combo solution
I just had problems w/ a Netflix copy of this disc. Tried 3 times, and received "can't read disc" message before the 5k spit it out. The disc does have some tiny scratches on the HD-DVD side. I tried the DVD side - no worries.
Then I went to the setup menu, and changed the "Dual Layer Disc" setting (or whatever it's called). It was set to HD-DVD, so I changed it to DVD. The disc now plays with no problems!
I'm guessing those that haven't had problems already had it set correctly.
Regards,
Doug
EDIT: I'm not sure I found the solution now. I put it in last night for the family to watch, and it wouldn't load. I powered off/on, ejected, and checked the Dual Format Disc setting - it was still at DVD as I last set it. I changed it to HD-DVD then back to DVD, inserted the disc, and the movie loaded and played flawlessly to the end.
Now I'm thinking that setting didn't affect it, but it's another disc where multiple loads will convince the 5k to play it.
I actually oown this disc and never had anissue with it, so it may be the disc itself.
I am hoping it is a bad disk from netflix, but I got about 46m into Mr. Brooks tonight and it just started getting jumpy etc. I tried stopping and restarting, skipping to a new chapter, powering off and then unplugging with no luck. I cannot get to any chapter past 16, even if selected from the main menu. I have seen that others have played this without any problems, so I am really hoping a different disk will play. The surface of the disk looked fine with no fingerprints or smudges.
Just wanted to put this on the thread in case others had this problem too, but haven't spoken out yet.
Just like above I won this disc and it had played flawlessly for me since the beginning.....
I think the problem may be with Netflix as many usershave had issues with more than a few discs from them....
I wasn't able to watch 3:10 to Yuma because I'm running the original FW. However, I was able to watch 27 Dresses and it's also a Fox BR movie. What's up with that?
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