Sony's leaving RPTV :( :(

That leaves Samsung, Mitsubishi, RCA, Panasonic and JVC in the business, according to the recent TWICE article. What are your opinions on who the leader is? Who will be the next to drop out?

Until the information is said by Sony, rather than infered by a journalist, I wouldn't be saying that Sony RPTV's are done.

I agree, but this looks like more than something being inferred:

http://www.twice.com/article/CA6514401.html

Samsung has been, and currently is the MD king for quite sometime now. so nothing has changed...

Other sources are reporting this breaking news!!


http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/19/sony-dumping-all-rear-projection-tvs-to-focus-on-lcds/

Face it, its over!

So did, uhh...the value of my A3000 just go up? :D

Other sources are reporting this breaking news!!

http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/19/sony-dumping-all-rear-projection-tvs-to-focus-on-lcds/

Face it, its over!

All of the blogs "reporting" on this are all referring to the same TWICE blog. So there is currently just one source of information here with zero input directly from Sony.

I'm not saying it isn't true, but to call Engadget another source when all they have read is the same blog that we did isn't exactly two separate sources that agree.

All of the blogs "reporting" on this are all referring to the same TWICE blog. So there is currently just one source of information here with zero input directly from Sony.

I'm not saying it isn't true, but to call Engadget another source when all they have read is the same blog that we did isn't exactly two separate sources that agree.

Nothing like denial:D

Nothing like denial:D

As far as we know, you could be the guy that the guy from TWICE talked to. :rolleyes:

All of the blogs "reporting" on this are all referring to the same TWICE blog. So there is currently just one source of information here with zero input directly from Sony.

I'm not saying it isn't true, but to call Engadget another source when all they have read is the same blog that we did isn't exactly two separate sources that agree.

not true. sony has confirmed it

Confirmed when and where?

not true. sony has confirmed it

Where? Links. Official stuff, not "Bob from accounting."

Who's the King?

Roger Daltrey from the Who said it best:

"Meet the new boss........same as the old boss"

Samsung DLP always has and still is the king of RPTV.

Samsung and Mitsubishi need to make DLP much brighter and without stupid bulbs that cost hundreds to replace if they want to stay in buisness.

People will buy Bright LED Dark Chip 4 DLP.

They won't buy what we have now.

I don't know how much longer JVC D'ILA can hang on.

Anyone have any ideas?

It's also rumored that another company that doesn't currently produce DLP will start producing DLP in 2008.

Any guess as to which one? Panasonic? Hitachi? JVC?

Where? Links. Official stuff, not "Bob from accounting."

pay special attention to the words (a direct quote) of the Sony spokesman...

Sony is bowing out of the rear-projection TV business, the company has confirmed. The Japanese electronics firm has effectively halted production and will allow stock of both its 3LCD and SXRD sets to run dry over the course of the next few months. The decision is the result of several months of research which showed a clearly waning interest in such units, which are typically less expensive than direct-view LCD or plasma TVs at the same size but are often bulkier and have narrower viewable angles. LCDs are considerably more popular and better justify the company's focus, a Sony spokesman observes.

"We are moving our resources more toward LCD TV, because that’s what people really want," he says.

i'm not sure what else you're looking for. they're not going to issue a press release or take out tv ads to make this announcement...

Samsung and Mitsubishi need to make DLP much brighter and without stupid bulbs that cost hundreds to replace if they want to stay in buisness.

People will buy Bright LED Dark Chip 4 DLP.

They won't buy what we have now.

I don't know how much longer JVC D'ILA can hang on.

Anyone have any ideas?

It's also rumored that another company that doesn't currently produce DLP will start producing DLP in 2008.

Any guess as to which one? Panasonic? Hitachi? JVC?

where to begin...

1) my samsung led (circa 2007) is just as bright, if not brighter than any microdisplay currently on the market. and this is from side by side comparisons. check out the dedicated thread for more on that topic. i defy you to find a single post in all 300+ pages of someone complaining about brightness...

2) panasonic already makes micro display tvs...

3) hitachi already made dlps and exited the business

4) jvc already makes micro display tvs. you mentioned it in your own post

pay special attention to the words (a direct quote) of the Sony spokesman...

Sony is bowing out of the rear-projection TV business, the company has confirmed. The Japanese electronics firm has effectively halted production and will allow stock of both its 3LCD and SXRD sets to run dry over the course of the next few months. The decision is the result of several months of research which showed a clearly waning interest in such units, which are typically less expensive than direct-view LCD or plasma TVs at the same size but are often bulkier and have narrower viewable angles. LCDs are considerably more popular and better justify the company's focus, a Sony spokesman observes.

"We are moving our resources more toward LCD TV, because that’s what people really want," he says.

i'm not sure what else you're looking for. they're not going to issue a press release or take out tv ads to make this announcement...

If its on the internet, it must be true. :)

Listen, every announcement can be given a positive spin in a press release. So, yes, I would expect a press release about this.

So far, the only site that has covered this is "Twice." Everyone else is linking to their report. I have never heard of them before. When I see a credible site covering this with their own sources, I'll believe it 100%. Until then, I have a bit of skepticism.

Lots of blog sites have covered "major breaking news" with incorrect info.

i don't know what to tell you then. they're out of micro display and thats that. dealers have been notified, inventory is being whittled down and they're done. believe what you want

and twice is no blog site. it's "This Week In Consumer Electronics", an industry trade magazine and official sponsor of ces (the consumer electronics show)

So, which dealers have you talked to in order to verify this?

A guy in the A3000 thread contacted Crutchfield today and they hadn't heard about it.

I'm not doubting that this could be happening. I just want a better source.

there aren't many sources with more insider knowledge than twice, on quotes directly from sony no less.

i have nothing more to say on the matter. good luck to you in your quest for the truth

Just look at Sony's business. They are in dire straits and interviews with execs earlier this year clearly stated that they would be exiting lines of business that are not essential to their core. I would say losing RPTV at this time is purely a cost cutting decision. Yes, they are losing a product line but one where profit margins have shrunk dramatically over the past 18-24 months.

I still love my 50" RP DLP I bought just over a year ago - specifically since it cost less than $1000. I for one do not want to see all of the manufacturers going this route. RPTV is still the most cost effective bang for your buck large screen option for rooms with lots of ambient lighting. LCD has a long way to go before it will compete in this area based on price/performance.

JD

there aren't many sources with more insider knowledge than twice, on quotes directly from sony no less.

i have nothing more to say on the matter. good luck to you in your quest for the truthCheck out preview to CES 2008 (http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2704,2238349,00.asp) talbain, it does make me doubt what twice said. Can you say SXRD laser-lit RPTV's. :)

Check out preview to CES 2008 (http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2704,2238349,00.asp) talbain, it does make me doubt what twice said. Can you say SXRD laser-lit RPTV's. :)

that's a good point. but i think the author was simply speculating based on what he saw last year.

pay special attention to the words (a direct quote) of the Sony spokesman...

Sony is bowing out of the rear-projection TV business, the company has confirmed. The Japanese electronics firm has effectively halted production and will allow stock of both its 3LCD and SXRD sets to run dry over the course of the next few months. The decision is the result of several months of research which showed a clearly waning interest in such units, which are typically less expensive than direct-view LCD or plasma TVs at the same size but are often bulkier and have narrower viewable angles. LCDs are considerably more popular and better justify the company's focus, a Sony spokesman observes.

"We are moving our resources more toward LCD TV, because that’s what people really want," he says.

i'm not sure what else you're looking for. they're not going to issue a press release or take out tv ads to make this announcement...


"More toward" doesn't neccessarily mean canceling SXRD. It could be infered this way, which is what everyone is doing, but it's not an absolute.

now that there won't be a successor, the king remains the KDS-R70XBR2.

"More toward" doesn't neccessarily mean canceling SXRD. It could be infered this way, which is what everyone is doing, but it's not an absolute.

it's an absolute, regardless of what you infer from the comments

Which company that doesn't currently produce DLP will start producing DLP in 2008?

What percentage of DLP sales will be from sets that do not use bulbs?

Has there ever been an LED DLP set that was Brighter than a DLP set that used a bulb that was the same size?

Seeing that SXRD has died and that rear projection sales are falling does it take an incredible amount of logic to speculate that if rear projection is to continue as a viable technology thart two things have to happen:

1)It can't rely on bulbs thart wear out fast

And

2)If it doesn't use a bulb but uses another source such as LED that it must not be Dimmer than the current bulb based sets?

Who said LED DLPs were not as bright as bulb based DLPs?

I've never seen one that was brighter--have you?

I've never seen one that was brighter--have you?

not brighter, but just as bright. and more importantly, maintains a consistent brightness throughout the tv's life.

I thought Samung has been the king?
This weekend I got the chance to see the Sammy 61" LED right next to the sony kds60a3000 and could not decide which one I liked better. The sony was a much sharper picture but the DLP picture looks so darn good. The led did seem "not as bright" as the sony though. I would be completely happy with either one of these sets as an upgrade from my 3yr old busted hlp5063w. (Are they even making parts for these older models?) The DLP that stole the show was the Mitsubushi WD-73733 running spidey 3 on bluray. The picture was an incredible experience, I had to sit down and take it all in. And this is was right after watching I Am Legend in the IMAX. The size was perfect for watching OAR movies for a RPTV. I would definately buy the Mitsu if I had the room for it.

I've heard that 2008 LED DLPS will be brighter which is a good thing.

I'm not saying that they won't cut the mustard--I'm saying 2007 LED DLPS do not cut the mustard--there are better 2007 DLPs and all of those are not LED.