View Full Version : little big planet delayed till fall 08


logicalnoise
12-21-07, 09:52 PM
http://gamernode.com/news/5443-littlebigplanet-delayed-till-fall-2008/index.html

mboojigga
12-21-07, 09:59 PM
Shocking!

musick
12-22-07, 12:10 AM
could be true
may not be

this article and the fact that all the proof they have is a new listing in a magazine is hardly confirmation of anything

bassmonkeee
12-22-07, 12:20 AM
Shocking!

From your sarcastic posts, I'd swear you were glad when games get delayed. :rolleyes:

leehom
12-22-07, 12:31 AM
From your sarcastic posts, I'd swear you were glad when games get delayed. :rolleyes:

only if their ps3 games

pHaZmaTis
12-22-07, 12:41 AM
Wow.

mboojigga
12-22-07, 01:07 AM
From your sarcastic posts, I'd swear you were glad when games get delayed. :rolleyes:

Not so shocking response.

Sorry but for the last year this is nothing new I mean seriously no one should be suprised by delays for this console. Plus I would be glad a game gets delayed if it meant that said game would be better in the future due to be delayed for whatever reason.

So ask yourself based on the past year is this really a shock a new game has been announced as being delayed?

bkchurch
12-22-07, 01:40 AM
Ok, so the only proof we have is EGM has a listing of game release dates in their magazine and they had LBP listed as Fall 2008? I dunno how many of you guys read magazines but typos and mistakes aren't uncommon.

I'll believe it when I here official word from Sony. I'm really looking forward to LBP and it really looks fantastic and all but I can't see why or how a game that in all is actually pretty simple and looks like it's nearly complete from the looks of the gameplay could possibly take another freakin year to complete.

Tandr
12-22-07, 01:56 AM
a delay in a game like this that looks so complete already, and has already shown playable demos, to me means they are doing it only to build more features in to enhance the experience rather than just to fix bugs. If that is the case I totally am fine with the delay.

bkchurch
12-22-07, 02:22 AM
a delay in a game like this that looks so complete already, and has already shown playable demos, to me means they are doing it only to build more features in to enhance the experience rather than just to fix bugs. If that is the case I totally am fine with the delay.

I can't see Sony delaying a big release for a game with so much hype behind it for year to add new features for two reasons: 1) The sooner LBP comes out the sooner we start seeing user created content and a year of user-created levels as well as a year of people getting better at making LBP levels is huge. 2) Anything they want to add after release could be added with a game update or more likely a small fee for some DLC which I can't see Sony passing up the opportunity for.

bassmonkeee
12-22-07, 02:59 AM
Not so shocking response.

Sorry but for the last year this is nothing new I mean seriously no one should be suprised by delays for this console. Plus I would be glad a game gets delayed if it meant that said game would be better in the future due to be delayed for whatever reason.

So ask yourself based on the past year is this really a shock a new game has been announced as being delayed?

There have been plenty that have come out on time, too, Sport.

Honestly, you aren't worth the effort. Back to the ignore list you go. I certainly won't be missing any insights on, well....anything.

logicalnoise
12-22-07, 03:04 AM
a delay in a game like this that looks so complete already, and has already shown playable demos, to me means they are doing it only to build more features in to enhance the experience rather than just to fix bugs. If that is the case I totally am fine with the delay.

Spore looked done but evidently wasn't.

FrankJ.Cone
12-22-07, 08:16 AM
I can't see Sony delaying a big release for a game with so much hype behind it for year to add new features for two reasons: 1) The sooner LBP comes out the sooner we start seeing user created content and a year of user-created levels as well as a year of people getting better at making LBP levels is huge. 2) Anything they want to add after release could be added with a game update or more likely a small fee for some DLC which I can't see Sony passing up the opportunity for.

The delay might not have anything to do with the completed game, it may have to due with PSN not being ready to handle the level sharing/distribution.

DaveFi
12-22-07, 11:29 AM
This game is tied in heavily with their new PSN "HOME" front-end, it could be this means HOME is delayed and not so much LBP itself.

mboojigga
12-22-07, 11:30 AM
:eek:There have been plenty that have come out on time, too, Sport.

Honestly, you aren't worth the effort. Back to the ignore list you go. I certainly won't be missing any insights on, well....anything.

Yet as usual for whatever reason you take all this personal and about a delay like this is anything new in the world of consoles, hell electronics.

Of course my response didn't derail the thread in anyway. As usual "why I said not shocking with your response" did as it is now all about you and your issue of the one word I said just stabbed you right in the heart.

Of course a lot of games have released on time Sparky. Then some that have been delayed an all of a sudden show up on the shelves(Unreal for example)

But by your post you bitch about every little thing someone saids on these boards to begin with so I know not to take any of this personal with you putting me on the ignore list :eek:

mboojigga
12-22-07, 11:33 AM
This game is tied in heavily with their new PSN "HOME" front-end, it could be this means HOME is delayed and not so much LBP itself.

Home was already annonced as being delayed from this around this time to Fall 08. Either way it could if it is true it is delayed it makes sense since it is tied in to HOME. Why release a product that doesn't have the most popular feature ready for use.

Abaddon
12-22-07, 12:14 PM
[...]I mean seriously no one should be suprised by delays for this console. (Emphasis mine). And that is what makes you a troll. Thanks for spelling it out so obviously for everyone. :rolleyes:

mboojigga
12-22-07, 12:17 PM
(Emphasis mine). And that is what makes you a troll. Thanks for spelling it out so obviously for everyone. :rolleyes:

Another not so shocking response for this thread about a delay. But please do continue with it being about me instead of the title of this thread.

_Avarice_
12-22-07, 12:42 PM
Another not so shocking response for this thread about a delay. But please do continue with it being about me instead of the title of this thread.
lol. You made it that way, as was your intent. Sad.

mboojigga
12-22-07, 12:50 PM
lol. You made it that way, as was your intent. Sad.

From your sarcastic posts, I'd swear you were glad when games get delayed.

Actually thank Bassmonkee for that. If you want to try and say I made him give his response in the way he decided too than we have more problems here than meets the eye.

I will be a little more careful in the future with words like "Shocking" :rolleyes:

I have explained enought to the BIG 3 in here so please continue the discussion with your issues about my one word response.

Conspiracy*
12-22-07, 01:12 PM
If you didnt see this coming you've gotta be blind. Im looking forward to LBP more than any other game save for FF and I saw this coming a few months back.

Whoever said the game is all in all simple, I dont think has a full understanding of what they're trying to accomplish with the game. LBP is a game like NONE before it. Giving millions of people an infrastructure to create/play/share is an undertaking that no console has ever tried to take on before. The (real) real time physics and malleability for the game itself is completely mindblowing to me. They have to account for literally millions of real time changes and interoperability between components. On the surface it may look pretty simple but Im very impressed with what they're trying to do.

The fact that its so closely tied with HOME should have been the first warning sign anyway. From what I've heard in the beta testers section at the playstation boards, HOME right now is a complete mess. What they're trying to do with HOME is a completely different momentous undertaking. The fact that its going to take 3 years to get a GOOD version of both of these systems is no suprise to me.

THe only thing I wish is that they didnt announce the systems until they were more confident of release and ready to share with everyone. The beatdown they were getting in the first 6 months of the systems life forced them to show their hand early.

_Avarice_
12-22-07, 01:21 PM
If my memory serves me, wasn't this supposed to be released as a PSN download? If the delay is strictly related to the tools for sharing user-created content, it'd be a shame to hold back the single-player aspect for a quarter.

I'm sure there is much more to it than that, however.

bkchurch
12-22-07, 02:37 PM
If you didnt see this coming you've gotta be blind. Im looking forward to LBP more than any other game save for FF and I saw this coming a few months back.

Whoever said the game is all in all simple, I dont think has a full understanding of what they're trying to accomplish with the game. LBP is a game like NONE before it. Giving millions of people an infrastructure to create/play/share is an undertaking that no console has ever tried to take on before. The (real) real time physics and malleability for the game itself is completely mindblowing to me. They have to account for literally millions of real time changes and interoperability between components. On the surface it may look pretty simple but Im very impressed with what they're trying to do.

The fact that its so closely tied with HOME should have been the first warning sign anyway. From what I've heard in the beta testers section at the playstation boards, HOME right now is a complete mess. What they're trying to do with HOME is a completely different momentous undertaking. The fact that its going to take 3 years to get a GOOD version of both of these systems is no suprise to me.

THe only thing I wish is that they didnt announce the systems until they were more confident of release and ready to share with everyone. The beatdown they were getting in the first 6 months of the systems life forced them to show their hand early.

Sorry if you misinterpreted that. I didn't mean LBP as a whole was simple, I meant the basic game itself was simple. Yes there's some pretty incredible physics and yes what they're doing with user-created content is a pretty monumental task for a console. The gameplay itself however doesn't amount to much more than a sidescrolling platformer with a badass physics engine. And if that sounds like I'm knocking the game I promise I'm not because aside from FFXIII and FFvsXIII this is my most anticipated PS3 game.

Anyway I still won't believe this until Sony officially announces it. I can see why they'd want to launch it alongside Home but there's no reason LBP can't function just fine without Home.

awx
12-24-07, 02:02 AM
Hopefully the delay means we get a ton of art assets to play around with.

confidenceman
12-24-07, 02:41 AM
Firstly, the official word is still "Spring 2008."

But since, as many of you have pointed out, this date was almost wholly dependent on Home also being ready for a Spring 2008 release (which will not happen), Fall 2008 sounds like as good a guess as any. But remember, this is still just a "guess." No one, not even the game's developers or Sony themselves, knows exactly when LBP will be released yet. Until then, this date is just pure speculation.

There are just too many important community aspects to getting a game like LBP going strong that they would never release it before there's a substantial community infrastructure in place for the PS3. This game has been seriously hyped, and both MS and Nintendo are openly envious of Sony's exclusive hold on this game.

Sony is being very careful about how they time the release for this game. It could be ready for release already, or could get a speedy release for early 2008; however, timing is everything with a game like this. For all we know, they could be sitting on this game already, just waiting for the right time to release it (more likely, the game is being polished and tweaked while Sony gets everything else in place).

There are two key community factors still missing. I would wager that Sony is waiting to overcome these two issues before they release LBP.

1) Home needs to be up and running. PSN is ill-equiped as it stands to accomodate what they have in mind for this game.

2) As much as this game will sell consoles, Sony also still needs to sell enough consoles in advance of the game's release to give Home and LBP a big enough user base to jump start the community. The console isn't in enough wired households yet.

I think Sony's banking a lot on this game. This could easily be bigger than MGS4 or FFXIII. It could easily be the game that sells consoles next holiday, and it could also be the product that convinces people that Home is more than just Sony's version of Second Life.

Also, despite Sony seeming to appeal to "hardcore" gamers, the console has picked up a lot of non-traditional gamers because of its media features. A game like this could do a lot to solidify and strengthen that appeal. For example, my 19-year-old sister has a PS3 in her dorm room, but she uses it mostly for movies and the occasional Guitar Hero 3 game. Her demographic would eat up a game like this.

Sony owe it to themselves and their consumers (us!) to get this one just right. I'll happily wait if it means all of this stuff finally comes together.

bkchurch
12-24-07, 01:00 PM
Can someone explain to me why this game depends on Home? And more importantly why the PSN is "ill-equipped to handle this game", I thought Home was a part of the PSN not a completely separate entity.

Apparently I'm confused and I suppose my previous points may be moot if LBP does indeed depend on Home to work.

instantpop
12-24-07, 01:04 PM
Can someone explain to me why this game depends on Home? And more importantly why the PSN is "ill-equipped to handle this game", I thought Home was a part of the PSN not a completely separate entity.

Apparently I'm confused and I suppose my previous points may be moot if LBP does indeed depend on Home to work.

I think a lot of people here are assuming (and I'm inclined to agree) that the experience Sony is intending for Little Big Planet will be a much better one once their network interface (Home) is in place. If they really do intend on LBP shattering people's ideas of what gaming is, then they need to do it right and not do it half-assed. And I think Home is what will allow them to deliver what they want to deliver in terms of experience. That's my two cents.

eddy_winds
12-24-07, 01:46 PM
If you ever played a mmrpg like FFXI,
you'll get a better idea. How big Home could be.
my 2 cents

confidenceman
12-24-07, 05:26 PM
Can someone explain to me why this game depends on Home? And more importantly why the PSN is "ill-equipped to handle this game", I thought Home was a part of the PSN not a completely separate entity.

Apparently I'm confused and I suppose my previous points may be moot if LBP does indeed depend on Home to work.The big pitch for the game is user-generated content. Unlike a game like UT3 where "user generated content" means content created by highly experienced people with highly specialized knowledge, LBP is setting out to make this a much easier task. UT3 mods need to be created using a PC, but LBP will happen through Sony's online network. Not just that, but there will also be real-time generated content. Plus a whole slew of other ways of creating and distributing content that have yet to be revealed.

There are far too many different ways that this game is depending on a flexible, robust, intuitive PS3 network for this to work on the PSN as it currently stands. That's what I mean by "ill-equiped." Moreover, Sony's going to need a very strong pitch to consumers to sell the idea of Home; I'm guessing LBP is going to be a huge part of that pitch.