I think I may have screwed myself a little by ordering my HDG-3000 a little too early.

I bought it in July of this year (2007), but I didn't use it! In fact, I didn't even open the box!! :)

Now I see the HDG-4000 has come out... do you think Greg will take the HDG-3000 back and let me upgrade it? I just sent him an e-mail... so we'll see...

But if he says no, then I guess I could always sell the HDG-3000 then buy the HDG-4000 from him.

What do you think would be a reasonable price for a "factory sealed" HDG-3000? I'm not used to selling things. :)

Partially answering myself...

I did a search for Accupel on eBay and I saw a user currently selling one that he says is 3 years old and has some abrasions and such. He has 19 bids and it's currently at $600. So I guess that gives me something to go on.

Still it would be nice if Accupel could take it back and give me some credit towards the new unit, considering that it's factory sealed! :)

Partially answering myself...

I did a search for Accupel on eBay and I saw a user currently selling one that he says is 3 years old and has some abrasions and such. He has 19 bids and it's currently at $600. So I guess that gives me something to go on.

Still it would be nice if Accupel could take it back and give me some credit towards the new unit, considering that it's factory sealed! :)

call them..:confused:

Greg responded and said they can't do trade-ins, which I understand, after all, their signal generators rival ones costing 5 times as much or more.

I guess I will have to try to sell the HDG-3000 if I want the 4000. Hopefully I might be able to get a little more for it since it's factory sealed.

Grendell, what do you plan on using the generator for? If you are a professional calibrator I'd say it is worth the extra $, especially if you evaluate displays. If you are doing basic user controls, grayscale and color managment (primaries, secondaries if your display has that capability) then the 3000 will be fine. For any decent displays the static 1080i patterns should be de-interlaced to 1080P without any problems and not change the grayscale or the primary/secondary colors.

Hope this helps.

Bob

I went ahead and put the HDG-3000 on eBay if anyone here is interested. I have to have the 4000. :)

I went ahead and put the HDG-3000 on eBay if anyone here is interested. I have to have the 4000. :)

On the bright side I have been speaking to Greg and he expects a lifecycle of 3+ years for the HDG-4000...should provide you lots of time to use it and, better yet, justify the cost of annual projector upgrades :D

It has user update-able firmware as well. :)

Greg responded and said they can't do trade-ins, which I understand, after all, their signal generators rival ones costing 5 times as much or more.
On Dec 27th I emailed you the name of someone that needs to buy an HDG-3000. Did you get that?

Yeah, he replied and said he would contact me on Monday (12/31/07). By the end of Monday, he hadn't e-mailed or called. I waited until Friday (01/04/08) and gave up and put it on eBay. :confused:

can the HDG4000 be connented to an HDMI input on a television or does it only have component outputs?

can the HDG4000 be connented to an HDMI input on a television or does it only have component outputs?

It's got a DVI output which is electrically the same as HDMI, so you just use a DVI to HDMI adapter. I prefer this with my HDG-3000 because I find HDMI connectors much flimsier than the DVI, so if the connector breaks I just have to replace my DVI-HDMI adapter and not actually repair the generator.

It's got a DVI output which is electrically the same as HDMI, so you just use a DVI to HDMI adapter. I prefer this with my HDG-3000 because I find HDMI connectors much flimsier than the DVI, so if the connector breaks I just have to replace my DVI-HDMI adapter and not actually repair the generator.


Thanks for the quick reply. Do you know if the DVI connection supports HDCP and does the HDG4000 have any HDCP test patterns?

can the HDG4000 be connented to an HDMI input on a television or does it only have component outputs?

Even more importantly, in my opinion, can it be connected to a coax input (ota or cable) ? It looks like it, but must require a special rgb to coax cable.

Why would you want to connect to a coax input?

Why would you want to connect to a coax input?


You would want to use this if you are using the TVs HD tuner for either OTA or cable signals. Neither the 3000 or 4000 have this capability. The Sencore piece has it but I don't think it is as good for test patterns as the Accupel and much more $$$. If you absolutely have to have this capability check out the Sencore piece, otherwise I'd go with Accupel.

Bob

Why would you want to connect to a coax input?

How else can I calibrate my OTA (antenna) source ? For me, this is the only benefit of a signal generator. I can calibrate any HDMI input with any modern DVD or HD player and a calibration disc, but how do I calibrate my coax/RF source ?

That is a big disappointment to hear the Accupel doesn't have this capability. I guess that may be one big reason the Sencore is more expensive, but unfortunately the Sencore is way beyond my price point for something I would use maybe once a year.

You calibrate your OTA by tracking the TV engineer down at each station - and shoving a copy of AVIA where the sun don't shine....

You calibrate your OTA by tracking the TV engineer down at each station - and shoving a copy of AVIA where the sun don't shine....

That's funny... and probably true for most SD material. But I gotta believe that most of the networks follow the industry standards for their prime-time HD programming, including sports broadcasts. Otherwise, I guess it would not pay to calibrate the cable, satellite, or OTA inputs.

If wishes were fishes...

Guys, I have my dvd player connected to a modulator modulated on tv channel 75. the dvd player is set to output black at ntsc 7.5ire.

If i load up avia into the dvd player and I tune to tv channel 75 and calibrate the input
Is this somewhat accurate or a waste of time for calibrating my rf input on my tvs?