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capablanca 12-25-07, 06:39 PM Does anyone know when the 80GB PS3 will receive the new chip? I know that for some this may sound crazy, but I'm holding out until this becomes a reality. Reason why? Lower power consumption, less heat, less noise. The 40GB PS3 won't play my PS2 games (my PS2 broke), so even though it does have the new chip, I'm not tempted to get it because of the lack of backwards compatibility. Anyone in the same boat?
snickersbar 12-26-07, 11:45 AM Heat and noise arent an issue with the PS3.
Yes there should be substantially less power consumption with the newer chip, however in terms of actual money saved, its likely to be less than a few dollars per year.
FWIW, I was very concerned with the noise of the 80 gig but still wanted BC. One of the reasons for dumping the Xbox was because of excessive noise during gaming and just enough noise during DVD playback to be annoying.
When I first received the 80 gig I put it in AV cabinet with the receiver and HD-DVR tuner. The temp in there was enough to make the PS3 crank up to the "3rd" fan speed that was equal to, if not louder than the Xbox was outside of the cabinet.
I then pulled it out and placed on a shelf above the TV. When playing games from the HD or watching movies, it's virtually silent. There is no noise. After a bit of gaming the fan will sometimes kick up to the second setting which is still a fraction of noise levels of the Xbox. Since pulling it out of the cabinet I have yet to hear it crank up to the third fan setting.
I've been very pleased with the noise levels. Heat really isn't too big of an issue either. It still runs cooler (to the touch anyway) than the Xbox and still no where near as hot as the receiver or HD Tuner.
While lower power consumption would be nice, I don't have the thing on 24/7 so I'm honestly not concerned about that.
confidenceman 12-26-07, 12:53 PM Does anyone know when the 80GB PS3 will receive the new chip? I know that for some this may sound crazy, but I'm holding out until this becomes a reality. Reason why? Lower power consumption, less heat, less noise. The 40GB PS3 won't play my PS2 games (my PS2 broke), so even though it does have the new chip, I'm not tempted to get it because of the lack of backwards compatibility. Anyone in the same boat?I don't think we'll be likely to learn about any changes to the chip for a while. For all we know Sony may have begun using new chips. Since the console runs so well already, no one's willing to pop open their consoles and take a look. Unlike another high profile console, there's not a huge demand for new chips, so people aren't obsessing about it. My guess is we won't hear about it until Sony's confident that they've sold through the majority of their old consoles.
Just buy the console already. Any changes to heat, noise, and power consumption will be minimal at best.
capablanca 12-26-07, 12:58 PM Thanks for the replies guys. Sounds like you all don't think there really are heat or noise issues with the older chip. However, I would still like to know if anyone has any sort of time line for the release of this new chip for the 80GB PS3.
No one even knows if the 80 will ever get the new chips. It's simply not an issue.
Scotty L 12-26-07, 02:31 PM Nothing's been announced but I would prefer a 65nm PS3 for all models. Besides the heat & power consumption differences, it's cheaper for Sony to produce.
Pikasauce 12-26-07, 03:38 PM When companies moves from one technology node to another (90nm to 65nm) it's typically a cost saving move; more die per wafer. Power, heat, noise may decrease but it's not a guarantee and I really wouldn't let it make or break my decision of getting a PS3.
confidenceman 12-26-07, 03:44 PM Thanks for the replies guys. Sounds like you all don't think there really are heat or noise issues with the older chip. However, I would still like to know if anyone has any sort of time line for the release of this new chip for the 80GB PS3.Information like this would be considered "insider information," and if anyone did know and were to reveal it, they could be jailed and fined. Investors could stand to make or lose a lot of money based on such information. Hence, you'll see no "time line" and if you do, it would only be pure rumor and speculation.
To reiterate what I and others have stated, the machine's a beauty and runs incredibly well as is. If you're waiting for the cost to come down, I understand; but if you're waiting for a cooler and quieter console, you may as well wait for the PS4.
steven975 12-26-07, 08:13 PM and people do follow these rules above.
those truly in the know are familiar with insider information rules. They know their cornholes are at risk if they open their mouths. It's the lowlings who think they may know something that post non-public information. Of course, we know it ain't right most of the time!
csgamer 12-28-07, 10:25 PM Does anyone know when the 80GB PS3 will receive the new chip? I know that for some this may sound crazy, but I'm holding out until this becomes a reality. Reason why? Lower power consumption, less heat, less noise. The 40GB PS3 won't play my PS2 games (my PS2 broke), so even though it does have the new chip, I'm not tempted to get it because of the lack of backwards compatibility. Anyone in the same boat?
+1
Taken from a DailyTech.com article, "The move to a 65nm process allows power consumption to drop from 200 Watts down to a more palatable 135 Watts."
I checked the ps3 80gb at the store to see if they have the power consumption wattage on the box but they don't.
Any 80gb owners out there checked their ps3 to see if the power consumption is 135 watts?
Pikasauce 12-28-07, 10:41 PM Maybe on paper and when the chip designer are running simulations. Listen bro, silicon varies so much coming out of the fab that it's not even funny; some parts might be on the "hot" side and some might be on the "cold" side. I'm sure some of us now with 90nm silicon have that wide of a power consumption distribution too.
lovebuzz#836 12-29-07, 02:51 AM Heat and noise arent an issue with the PS3.
Yes there should be substantially less power consumption with the newer chip, however in terms of actual money saved, its likely to be less than a few dollars per year.
Heat IS an issue with PS3. If you don't think so, look at all the store display units that are locked up. The locked up units are due to overheating.
With an average of 8 hrs a week usage, most will see an increase of around $12 a month on an electric bill. I noticed it immediately. Going from 200 watts to about 140 will drop that to about $6.
Heat IS an issue with PS3. If you don't think so, look at all the store display units that are locked up. The locked up units are due to overheating.
With an average of 8 hrs a week usage, most will see an increase of around $12 a month on an electric bill. I noticed it immediately. Going from 200 watts to about 140 will drop that to about $6.
Heat is an issue if the PS3 is in a tightly enclosed A/V cabinet or any other enclosure that restricts airflow, such as the one used in store display units. As long as the PS3 is an open cabinet, heat will not be an issue.
If you believe you are paying an extra $12 per month in electricity for your PS3 and only play eight hours per week, then either your calculations are very different from mine or you pay much more per KWH than I do. Eight hours per week is approximately 35 per month. Power consumption of 200 watts would equal energy consumption of 7 KWH per month by the PS3. I pay approximately $0.10 per KWH, so the PS3 should be responsible for only approximately $0.70 per month in electricity charges. Can you explain how you arrived at $12 per month?
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