I tried to watch this and got an error message and the machine locked up.
The disk had no scraches and looked perfect so I was puzzled. Then I remembered someone mentioning persistent memory. After clearing this memory, the disk played without a hitch. (memory full problem?)

but I found another problem, the first time I was waiting for everybody to sit down, so I let the disk loop. when the looping stoped and I thought the screensaver would start or the movie auto start, the player locked up.
(authoring problem?)

hda1

What player?

I have played The Kingdom on both my XA2 2.7 Firmware and my A2 1.5 Firmware with no problems

no problems for me HDV5000 FW 2.0. multiple viewings.

Mine doesn't load on the xbox drive either. taking it back for an exchange...will either grab rush hour 3 or eastern promises.

I tried to watch this and got an error message and the machine locked up.
The disk had no scraches and looked perfect so I was puzzled. Then I remembered someone mentioning persistent memory. After clearing this memory, the disk played without a hitch. (memory full problem?)

but I found another problem, the first time I was waiting for everybody to sit down, so I let the disk loop. when the looping stoped and I thought the screensaver would start or the movie auto start, the player locked up.
(authoring problem?)

hda1

Have you updated your players firmware recently? This is a new release so it's always a good idea to check for new firmware.

It's a COMBO my dear friend. Expect these kind of non-sense. Reliability and Durability of COMBOs stink.

A lot of people haven't had problems with combos. Do you have anything to contribute to try and help this person out or are you just here to preach your usual "COMBOs stink" rhetoric? Looking at your post history, it's obvious you don't like combos. We get it. It's AVS, not Blu-Ray.com. Move on already.

A lot of people haven't had problems with combos. Do you have anything to contribute to try and help this person out or are you just here to preach your usual "COMBOs stink" rhetoric? Looking at your post history, it's obvious you don't like combos. We get it. It's AVS, not Blu-Ray.com. Move on already.

Only if you start encountering problems with COMBOs repeatedly you will feel what we are currently going through. The following are the solutions but some of it may not be practically feasible

1) Do a disc replacement - 50% chance of getting a mint one. 50% chance of encountering some other issue.
2) Trythe Boiling technique - No guarantees if something happens to the disc.
3) Upgrade the firmware - which is likely to bring new set of troubles.
4) Exchange the player - If it still doesn't work keep exchanging forever. :mad::eek:
5) Import the disc - Likely to cost you more.
6) Wait for a re-issue from the Studios (The best option)

my player is the HD-A1 and it has the 2.4 firmware. As I said, once I cleared persistent storage, it played fine.

could someone load "the Kingdom" and then just let it cycle to see if the screen saver starts, the movie starts or the player locks up? I'm curious if this happens to someone else.

My A2 with the latest firmware played it back without an issue. I do agree that combos are a coin flip. It's much like watching me watch my 360 boot up and hope pray it doesn't 3 ring.

Oddly enough, when we watched The Kingdom we waited for another member of the family and it did go to the generic Universal screen saver - no problems noted, HD-A1 2.3 (I think).

MEC2

Mine went to the screen saver as well because my wife got on the damn phone before the movie started. No issues at all.

no problems with this or Eastern Promises, both are combo's. XA2 with 2.7fw. I wish all HD-DVD's were combo's, makes it much easier for others in the house to watch the movie and stay away from the home theater (which is a very good thing).

my player is the HD-A1 and it has the 2.4 firmware. As I said, once I cleared persistent storage, it played fine.

I also have the HD-A1 running 2.4 and my player had a hard lockup during the scene where the black SUVs get attacked on the highway near the end. The picture froze, and when I tried pressing the play and fast-forward buttons, a black screen was displayed with an error message stating the disc could not be played. The disc was in perfect condition.

I power cycled the player by unplugging it, and then went back to the same scene. It played fine the second time thru. That was the first hard lockup of my HD-A1 in a long time. I don't have the disc anymore (it was rental), so I can't test the screen saver issue.

HD-A1 2.4 here with no issues at all.

A-35 here, no problems. Watched it 2X.

no problem on A2.

1) Do a disc replacement - 50% chance of getting a mint one. 50% chance of encountering some other issue.


50% of Combos are bad? lgans, you pop into threads to make pro-HD DVD comments occassionally, but those who pay attention recognize the shade of blue you are underneath :)

Only if you start encountering problems with COMBOs repeatedly you will feel what we are currently going through. The following are the solutions but some of it may not be practically feasible

1) Do a disc replacement - 50% chance of getting a mint one. 50% chance of encountering some other issue.
2) Trythe Boiling technique - No guarantees if something happens to the disc.
3) Upgrade the firmware - which is likely to bring new set of troubles.
4) Exchange the player - If it still doesn't work keep exchanging forever. :mad::eek:
5) Import the disc - Likely to cost you more.
6) Wait for a re-issue from the Studios (The best option)

If you're boiling your discs then you need help beyond anything that modern medicine can provide. You may infact be Satan himself. :cool:

I have a LOT of problems with combos as well, on my 360 add-on. Children of Men had all sorts of issues, just recently The Fountain HD-DVD side won't load, Bourne Ultimatum, Chuck and Larry, and Fearless freezes. I don't know if the layers are seperating, there is factory residue left on the discs, or the coding for the movies is just bad. But I have come to dread watching a HD-DVD for the first time, never sure if it is going to work. I will NEVER watch a HD-DVD with friends unless I have screened it first. Of course I have had problems with non-combo HD-DVDs as well like Next, Black Christmas, and Sneakers.

I've watched far fewer blu-rays, but so far they have all played well on the PS3.

Just finished watching Kingdom here on the XA2. Played all the way through with no problems.

Kingdom is recognized as HDDVD then stops and displays error code 4086 4203 on my XA2 with 2.7 firmware. This is the only disc that my player won't play. tried pulling the plug and clearing persistant memory. Does anyone know what 4086 4203 means? Returning the disc, but at least the dvd side played ok so I could at least watch the movie

If you're boiling your discs then you need help beyond anything that modern medicine can provide. You may infact be Satan himself. :cool:

Believe it or don't, the boiling thang actually works, Raw_Duck:p

I watched the movie earlier today on my D2 and had no problems with the disc locking. Also the screen saver popped up and was running while I was finishing Live Free or Die Hard on my Sony 301.

Gary

Believe it or don't, the boiling thang actually works, Raw_Duck

There is a very sound reason that boiling a combo disc MIGHT actually result in eliminating a playback problem. The only verifiable cause of playback problems with a few combos has been the problem with the bonding process that was too much bonding agent between the disc halves. This resulted in a too thick disc for the error correction in some drives to compensate for. heating the disc then allowing it to cool COULD, and I emphasize, COULD cause expansion in heating then enough contraction in cooling to reduce the disc thickness just enough to make it playable. Remember, we are talking about fractions of nanometers of tolerance here.

This, of course, presumes the cause of the error is in fact too much bonding agent and not some other defect.

I'm having all kinds of problems with this movie as well. I have the combo discs for Children of Men and The Bourne Ultimatum as well and they play without a hitch. I rented Eastern Promises and experienced no problems. The Kingdom has given me problems with two discs now [rented copy and bought copy]. Rented copy finally played after resetting the unit a few times, bought copy played after the first reset [pulling the plug].

Then I remembered someone mentioning persistent memory. After clearing this memory, the disk played without a hitch. (memory full problem?)hda1

Is this something in the A1? I have the XA2 and don't recognize a memory setting.

I did have an error message several times with Eastern Promises. FW 2.7

problems @ about 1:18 for me on my A2. picture and audio froze, but the timer on the player kept running. granted i havent updated firmware in about 2 or 3 months so that may be the issue. i'ev recently had problems with a few SD-DVDs on this player too, we're talking in the last 5 days...

Played mine on my A1 and no problem with mine.

Is there an interactive feature in the movie that begins right where these lockups are popping up? Could be something to look into (especially if the clear persistant memory technique seems to have an effect).

I had a problem with The Kingdom.
I got a hickup at about 1.36, halfway trough chapter 18 "Got Him".
The image stoped for about a second but the sound continued, when the video unfreezed the audio was out of sync.
I stoped the player and went to the chapter from the main menu, worked fine the 2:nd time around.

Player: HD-EP30 (European version of HD-A30)

I'm giving up combos on my player. First Bourne now this. I'll just wait for the European Non Combos instead. :/