I just finished watching my copy of War. The first 1.1 title I have had the pleasure of playing via PS3. It loaded up right away like all other discs and played flawlessly from beginning to end. The PQ is pretty decent but I was a little disappointed for such a new title. It's very soft looking and inconsistent from scene to scene. Depth varies too. Some outdoor shots look crisp and have pop then the next outdoor scene seems like it was shot with filters. Grain is present but very minimal and never takes you out of the pic. I would have to say it's just the source and how it was filmed. It's not an ugly pic but it's no tier zero title either. I would say lower tier 1, high tier 2 if I were to rank it.

AVC encoded

The audio kicks ass though. This baby has a 7.1 PCM track and it is VERY aggressive! Surrounds get alot of workout during the action scenes and the LFE is very very deep!! I found myself having to turn down the volume a couple times tonight because it was just so loud...but in a good way! ;) The audio is the star of this show!

The 1.1 PIP feature worked flawlessly but it's honestly nothing we haven't seen before. The interactive game was just downright terrible. Seriously, if you can't do "games" better than this just leave them out! All in all, its a pretty feature laden disc with lots of bells & whistles but just don't get too excited over the 1.1 stuff just yet.

1) How are the IME/HDi operating times ? Is it slow like the Toshiba HD DVD player ?
2) Does the menu appear with excellent graphics like the HD DVD menus ? I am yet to see a Blu-ray disc with a striking menu appearance which many of the HD DVDs have.

The menu system is actually pretty clunky....not one of the smoothest menus I have seen. The PIP is about as quick as the HD-DVD's IME commentaries.

I wanna know if this title is multi region. I've read somewhere that it is but wanna be sure.

I wanna know if this title is multi region. I've read somewhere that it is but wanna be sure. yes it is. watched on my usa ps3 then tested it on my son's uk one.played fine.

thanks a lot! hope profile 1.1 works also for the uk machines!

does the internet have to be wired to use those features?

does the internet have to be wired to use those features?


No. It's just a PIP overlay.

I wish I could watch this movie on my Samsuck BD-P1200. Unfortunately, I merely get to add it to my growing collection of Blu-Rays and SD DVD's that don't work or have serious issues on this player.

Another $30 coaster for me. Oh wait, Samsuck told me they expect to have a firmware update for this movie in about a week or so. That would be sweet, if they hadn't been telling me the same thing for POTC:AWE since that movie was released. :(

unfortunately even as a jet li fan i just didnt like this movie enough to buy regardless of how stellar the disc itself may be. for those thinking about blind buy i would recommend renting first.

I was impressed. by the movie itself. most people claiming it was awful. I actually enjoyed more than the transporter films. The twist at the end got me. I thought it would be cheesy with Li and stathem having ridiculous fight scenes with each other. glad it didn't play out that way. PIP was alright. PIP was better on 3:10 to yuma.

I enjoyed the film, and was interested in seeing the 1.1 features (which worked perfectly on my updated PS3).

What I saw of the PIP commentary was a static shot of the director sitting at a microphone recording the audio commentary. If the whole thing was like that, then it's a far cry from the IME presentations Warner has given us.

And the exclusive Blu-ray "Yakuza" fighting game was pretty bad.

So they get 10 points for taking advantage of the latest cutting edge BR technology, but lose 10 points because the content itself was awful.

I thought the audio and video quality was great and the film itself was better than I had expected.

I enjoyed the film, and was interested in seeing the 1.1 features (which worked perfectly on my updated PS3).

What I saw of the PIP commentary was a static shot of the director sitting at a microphone recording the audio commentary. If the whole thing was like that, then it's a far cry from the IME presentations Warner has given us.

And the exclusive Blu-ray "Yakuza" fighting game was pretty bad.

So they get 10 points for taking advantage of the latest cutting edge BR technology, but lose 10 points because the content itself was awful.

I thought the audio and video quality was great and the film itself was better than I had expected.

how are Warner's IME diff from what is being used here? is it a limitation of technology or just a bad implementation of it?

i really dont see why studios are wasting R&D money on games.

The technology and implementation seems to be similar. A second and smaller video window pops up on the screen throughout the film. It's just that in this case, the window only features a static shot of the director sitting in a chair, talking into a microphone, staring up at an offscreen monitor on which he is watching the film. There is no reason they can't include the interviews, behind the scenes footage, storyboards, alternate angles, etc. that make up other IME PIP tracks. They just jumped on the 1.1 train before having enough material to justify the inclusion of the feature.

I really should go back and watch more of it, just in case it gets better. But what I saw was amusingly non-impressive.

The technology and implementation seems to be similar. A second and smaller video window pops up on the screen throughout the film. It's just that in this case, the window only features a static shot of the director sitting in a chair, talking into a microphone, staring up at an offscreen monitor on which he is watching the film. There is no reason they can't include the interviews, behind the scenes footage, storyboards, alternate angles, etc. that make up other IME PIP tracks. They just jumped on the 1.1 train before having enough material to justify the inclusion of the feature.

I really should go back and watch more of it, just in case it gets better. But what I saw was amusingly non-impressive.

I'm just curious, but how can you be sure that the visual presentation of the director's commentary uses 1.1? The only thing listed as true PIP was the bonus FX clip.

I agree that all special features should be included in PIP.

Is anyone else having issues with the War disk? My samsung p1000 freezes at about 102minutes in and I can't get past it. Not sure if it is a disk or a player problem.

unfortunately even as a jet li fan i just didnt like this movie enough to buy regardless of how stellar the disc itself may be. for those thinking about blind buy i would recommend renting first.

this was actually the first blu-ray movie I rented instead of blind bought. I should get to start it tonight.

I think renting first is probably the smart way to go, otherwise I might end up with a "Shoot 'em Up" sitting on my shelf.

Thank goodness I don't own ShootEm Up....worst action movie of the year! Actually...let me take it back..worst comedy movie of the year :)

this was actually the first blu-ray movie I rented instead of blind bought. I should get to start it tonight.

I think renting first is probably the smart way to go, otherwise I might end up with a "Shoot 'em Up" sitting on my shelf.

I wish I could watch this movie on my Samsuck BD-P1200. Unfortunately, I merely get to add it to my growing collection of Blu-Rays and SD DVD's that don't work or have serious issues on this player.

Another $30 coaster for me. Oh wait, Samsuck told me they expect to have a firmware update for this movie in about a week or so. That would be sweet, if they hadn't been telling me the same thing for POTC:AWE since that movie was released. :(

worked perfectly on mine! was worried there for a bit that it would't work. no problems with RE Extinction either!

worked perfectly on mine! was worried there for a bit that it would't work. no problems with RE Extinction either!

Did you try the War director's commentary PIP on your 1200?

Did you try the War director's commentary PIP on your 1200?

:p;)

fitprod

There is no reason they can't include the interviews, behind the scenes footage, storyboards, alternate angles, etc. that make up other IME PIP tracks. They just jumped on the 1.1 train before having enough material to justify the inclusion of the feature.

I really should go back and watch more of it, just in case it gets better. But what I saw was amusingly non-impressive.

Any studio on either format can utilize the second video stream for whatever. I don't think every single time a studio utilizes the function on either format that it HAS to be the same as WBs IME. I agree, WB does more than just a simple video commentary and I would prefer it as well over a simple video commentary, but if what's on War wasn't advertised as such, then there isn't much of a reason to expect it. I don't think they need to "justify" using the feature. Nothing wrong with a video commentary. It certainly doesn't HURT to have it.

The 1.1 features on Resident Evil Extinction seem to have the mix of interviews/mixed supplements.

This worked fine on a Sony BDP-S300, though it took some time to load. The menus are clunky, as has been noted. The video and audio quality were good. The PIP feature did not show up as an option on my player. The movie was entertaining but no more than that. The "twist" was far-fetched. San Francisco looked nice.

This worked fine on a Sony BDP-S300, though it took some time to load. The menus are clunky, as has been noted. The video and audio quality were good. The PIP feature did not show up as an option on my player. The movie was entertaining but no more than that. The "twist" was far-fetched. San Francisco looked nice.

JAC6,
Try the Director's Commentary and see what happens.

Thank goodness I don't own ShootEm Up....worst action movie of the year! Actually...let me take it back..worst comedy movie of the year :)

Shoot 'Em Up was much better than this drivel and I had to watch it in SD. :) Even HD couldn't help this title out. :D

I agree it is not the best looking encode- inconsistent, hard-edged and digital looking at times. Not up to par with other AVC encodes I have seen. Some of it may be in the source, though, I didn't see it in the theater, so I couldn't say.

Thank goodness I don't own ShootEm Up....worst action movie of the year! Actually...let me take it back..worst comedy movie of the year :)

Rottentomatoes disagrees with you: Shoot 'Em Up (rated 67% Fresh) (http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/shoot_em_up/)

My favorite review snippet for Shoot 'Em Up:

The whole thing is supposed to be played for laughs, but it is too bloody, too brutal and too sadistic to be remotely amusing.

Hahahaha.
:p

I couldn't figure out how to turn the PiP on and off during the feature. It seems to be either always on or always off. During the PiP, you could make the main feature screen smaller, but no way to turn the commentary off and just have a logo in the corner like IME or U-Control.

just finished watching the movie and loved it, i didnt think it was going to be good, but I throughly enjoyed

I had to laugh at the "Yakuza District", "Triad HQ" captions in the movie. What a joke.

Liked this one a lot
My favorite part? "Complements of Mr. Chang...."
You know what I'm talking about. :)

just finished watching the movie and loved it, i didnt think it was going to be good, but I throughly enjoyed

+1

I thought the PQ was quite good as well.

I had to laugh at the "Yakuza District", "Triad HQ" captions in the movie. What a joke.

Yakuza -> OMG. Story writers and directors need to grow up. :eek:

I got this one too and I was impressed. It's not particularly a deep movie, but it has some great action, and the AQ is amazing, the PQ nearly perfect as well. Lots of great extras too.

The only problem I have with the movie besides it's cartoony/popcorn mentality (actually, I don't mind that...) is the ending. I'm still trying to figure it out.

The ending is pretty easy to figure out. Overall I liked it. It's what I expected. The PQ is good if not great. The AQ is something else though. Makes me want more 7.1

So is this PIP considered Profile 1.1? If so then why does it play on my S300? I thought I read here that someone said the 1.1 option is not there on the menu. The menus look no different from my PS3 to my S300.

Thanks

So is this PIP considered Profile 1.1? If so then why does it play on my S300? I thought I read here that someone said the 1.1 option is not there on the menu. The menus look no different from my PS3 to my S300.

Thanks

No, only the very short FX PIP featurette.

hmmm I must have missed the FX PIP...where is that located at then?

hmmm I must have missed the FX PIP...where is that located at then?

In the special features menu. If you aren't seeing it, it is because you don't have a Profile 1.1 player.

I received this from Netflix and found it to be an extremely overall weak blu-ray.

The movie is so ridden with cliches of the genre I don't even know where to start. But the ridiculous dialogue is probably a good place.

The PQ was decent, I suppose. I don't remember it being good but I don't remember it being bad, either.

The ending "twist" or whatever you want to call it, was ridiculous.

Also, Jet Li fights for about a whole 2 minutes. The rest of the time he's talking....in English....yeah.

the uncompressed LPCM 7.1 track is by far the best audio track i've heard to date!!!! :eek:

As of right now, it is my new format Demo disc!! My goodnesss. The dynamic range of the surrounds, the punchy/clean/accurate bass, and the excellent studio mix makes this really a pleasure to see.

10/10 on the audio side! well done Lionsgate!:)

I agree BUT I thought the dialogue was mixed very low at times, IMO.

Surprised there isn't more chatter on this one since last post but it may be because folks aren't easily getting their hands on this one to view. Took me till now via Netflix rental.

I liked everything about this movie. The content was my cup of tea, the PQ was pretty good and didn't subtract from my enjoyment, and the sound was GREAT!

Get your hands on this one if you haven't tried it. I'm glad I did and I'll eventually buy it when the price is right.

I received this from Netflix and found it to be an extremely overall weak blu-ray.

The movie is so ridden with cliches of the genre I don't even know where to start. But the ridiculous dialogue is probably a good place.

The PQ was decent, I suppose. I don't remember it being good but I don't remember it being bad, either.

The ending "twist" or whatever you want to call it, was ridiculous.

Also, Jet Li fights for about a whole 2 minutes. The rest of the time he's talking....in English....yeah.

he also fires guns and drives an expensive car, but who wants to see jet li doing that?

I received this from Netflix and found it to be an extremely overall weak blu-ray.

The movie is so ridden with cliches of the genre I don't even know where to start. But the ridiculous dialogue is probably a good place.

The PQ was decent, I suppose. I don't remember it being good but I don't remember it being bad, either.

The ending "twist" or whatever you want to call it, was ridiculous.

Also, Jet Li fights for about a whole 2 minutes. The rest of the time he's talking....in English....yeah.

LOL @ you for thinking this movie was anything more than popcorn-action fluff.

It's Jet Li and Jason Stratham.

Were you expecting an Academy Award performance from either? Oh please...

Hint: Next time you want a good asian action flick, go rent Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon...

I thought the ending gave a mediocre movie a kick in the pants at the last moment. Certainly it made me want to watch it a 2nd time now knowing the twist. A 3rd time? I doubt it.

So what exactly is the Profile 2.0 feature(s) that is/are now enabled on this disc?

Just picked up a used version of this and was very impressed with the pic and sound quality. The story was to be expected but still very watchable. Glad I picked this up at a discounted rate-good addition to show off the hometheater.

I really wanted to like this movie as I am a big Jet Li fan. Unfortunately, "War" turned out to be a run-of-the-mill movie that Steven Seagal or Jean Claude Van Damme could've starred in.

The condominium building where I live is where they filmed Jet Li's penthouse, and the building itself is shown clearly in the last few scenes of the movie. Funny enough, Jet Li's Romeo Must Die was also filmed several times where I live. Got to meet him personally and was very friendly.

I haven't seen it yet but I like the title Rogue Assassin as it's called in Europe, Asia and Australia better.:D

the uncompressed LPCM 7.1 track is by far the best audio track i've heard to date!!!! :eek:

As of right now, it is my new format Demo disc!! My goodnesss. The dynamic range of the surrounds, the punchy/clean/accurate bass, and the excellent studio mix makes this really a pleasure to see.

10/10 on the audio side! well done Lionsgate!:)

I thought this movie sounded great as well. I still think the 7.1 king is "Shoot 'Em Up". Just my opinion :).

WAR is my favorite 7.1 track yet...hoping to find a used or sale copy soon as I watched a rented version.

I just watched this movie having bought it a few months ago but stuck with a ton of other unwatched discs. Playing it on a PS3 with an optical audio connection I couldn't work out why the surrounds weren't working. Then I noticed it has a PCM 7.1 track. Great if you are using HDMI to a HDMI 1.1 AVR but not so good otherwise. Had to switch to the alternate DD 5.1 track to get surrounds.

Interesting movie - couldn't work out the ending - dialogue wasn't clear so will have to watch that part again to work out the entire plot of the twists