View Full Version : Mits HC3000 dlp to JVC RS-1 will I see night & day difference
Was thinking about upgrading to jvc but dont want to spend the money if I am not going to be blown away. Theater room black ceiling, tan walls that do reflect back on the screen. Stewert 110" firehawk screen black border. Room is light controlled. Ceiling mount projector.
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Tough to answer since it is a matter of opinion, but I can tell you that I was blown away when someone brought over an RS1 to compare to my Infocus IN76 DLP. There is 'nothing wrong' with my Infocus, but the difference was not just incremental. I am currently saving for one unless something unexpected comes out at CES.
mankite 12-29-07, 03:22 PM I saw motion blur on the RS1, I'm in the market for my first projector and I'm waiting to see the new epson coming out. If I experience motion blur with the epson it's going to be a dlp for me.
mystery 12-29-07, 04:25 PM sunol,
I'm curious about your experience viewing the RS1. I've never seen it in action and I've owned five DLP projectors in the last almost 5 years now. I understand that your Infocus pj is quite bright so I imagine that you are used to the traditional DLP 'pop' and 'wow' factor. This would especially be so if you've used a screen with some gain like the Da-Lite High Power which I use.
So, could you elaborate a little bit as to what it was about the RS1 which blew away your projector? I'm genuinely curious because I've never been able to compare the two technologies.
Thanks in advance! :)
Wayne
"So, could you elaborate a little bit as to what it was about the RS1 which blew away your projector? I'm genuinely curious because I've never been able to compare the two technologies.
....Wayne"
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The most recognizable "blow away" is Black.
Not "trickery" Black but true NATIVE BLACK that will never compromise or sacrifice any other image element.
sunol,
So, could you elaborate a little bit as to what it was about the RS1 which blew away your projector? I'm genuinely curious because I've never been able to compare the two technologies.
Thanks in advance! :)
Wayne
Sharper, brighter, quieter, higher apparent contrast, visibly higher resolution.
And I even liked the colors just fine, but I am an amateur. :D
The only areas it was lacking was no vga port and it's physical size (larger than the Infocus). In every other category, it seemed a step up from the Infocus.
That said, I personally like DLP a lot. My day to day TV is a rear projection 1080P DLP. However, we are comparing a 2 + year old 720P DLP with a new LCOS 1080P projector that goes for twice the price. Not really fair.
If I could come close to cost justifying it, I would love to be able to look at a Sim2 HT380 and compare that to the RS1. Maybe even the new Benq projectors.
The offset and fan noise on the Infocus IN82 wouldn't work for me, so I haven't even looked at it, but that might be a better comparison of the technologies at around the same price.
FremontRich 12-29-07, 07:24 PM Was thinking about upgrading to jvc but dont want to spend the money if I am not going to be blown away. Theater room black ceiling, tan walls that do reflect back on the screen. Stewert 110" firehawk screen black border. Room is light controlled. Ceiling mount projector.
Thanks
It depends how close you sit from your projector. Usually the higher the resolution the closer you can sit to experience the "Wow" factor.
We sit about 11 feet from screen.
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rboster 12-30-07, 11:48 AM Was thinking about upgrading to jvc but dont want to spend the money if I am not going to be blown away. Theater room black ceiling, tan walls that do reflect back on the screen. Stewert 110" firehawk screen black border. Room is light controlled. Ceiling mount projector.
Thanks
As others have said, it's a matter of personal perception and what's important to you in an image. I noticed your city listed is Blue Springs...isn't that in Missouri (KC metro area)? If so, you might want to join the local HT forum and ask if someone has the JVC and would they invite you over to see it?
http://www.kchtenthusiasts.com/
I currently have the BenQ 8720 DLP pr. I'm going to test the Epson 1080P UB LCD proj. this week. I'm curious what the new LCD's look like, the UB which has a 50,000 spec and what 1080P will look like in my set up. I felt this was the only way to really know if what the specs and features say will show up on the screen in my set up.
Ron
I went from a HC3000 to RS1 this past March. The RS1 has better blacks, contrast and resolution (in that order of improvement). I don't think you will be blown away so to say. IMO you get 75% of the RS1 for 1/4 of the price with the HC3000. The RS1 is about 4 times the physical size of the HC3000. I would say if your happy with the black level of the HC3000 save your money for a while.
hyungj90 06-09-08, 03:43 AM muncey....
i'm also thinking of upgrading from hc3000 to rs1.
could you explain in more detail about the difference bet. the two?
thanks.
kalvin.
hifiman9 06-09-08, 08:06 AM I just bought and installed my IN83 and think its fantastic. I am lucky enough to be a dealer for InFocus, JVC and Epson. I have owned nothing but DLP in the past. I brought home the JVC and IN 83 to compare in my HT room. Note: This is only my opinion and in my room there is a little day time light and at night I keep dim lights on. My screen is a DaLite HCCV grey.
The JVC was very nice but because of my screen and amb. light I couldnt see it in its full glory. I then tried the IN-83 and at that point I was sold.
Im use to the more vibrant colors and the sharpness of DLP. The JVC looked great but not has sharp as the IN-83. Also I noticed something when there was fast motion on some shots with the JVC. Seemed to have a bluring effect. Maybe it was me or my conditions. Because of my room and the fact if I bought the JVC it would have left no budget for screen upgrade needed.
So because I am use to DLP. I just came off a 7210. Because of the sharpness and vibrant colors and brightness needed, I chose the IN83 and couldnt be happier. Oh-- Keep one thing in mind. Depending on your room the Infocus may not ne as easy of an install as the JVC. My IN83 has a 36 percent offset.
FremontRich 06-09-08, 12:05 PM I went from a Mits HC3000 to a Marantz VP15S1 and I couldn't be happier. I'm used to the DLP projectors and, to be honest, I haven't really checked out other types of projectors so my experience is limited. The Marantz's image is excellent and sharp due to it's superior optics and Gennum video processor. Going from the Mits to the Marantz was quite a jump in image quality although the Mits is no slouch.
frank456 06-09-08, 07:39 PM The 15S1 is a very nice model. All modern projectors are so good these days that even the high end models do not appear like they are a 'night and day' difference from the entry level projectors.
Well I did not upgrade price wise as some of you. But I did move to a benq w5000 from the hc3000. The Benq was definately brighter, blacks were better, and shadow detail especially. It was also quite a bit sharper. I dont know if you would say they were night and day, but the benq really felt like an upgrade. Its similar to the h3000, but with dual iris, and 1080p, brighter, and sharper.
Both are dlp, both have brilliant color, both are dc2. Although the dual iris seems to help the benq over the hc3000 in black, and shadow.
Cameron 06-09-08, 08:25 PM I don't think you will see a night and day difference. To me a night and day difference is something like the day (years ago) that I was TV shopping and was impressed with a nice little 7" tube Toshiba RPTV at 50". Then that same day I saw my 1st G90 projector hooked up with a 50K Faroudja processor in a professionally done light controlled demo room at a nice dealership in ATL. That was night and day!
frank456 06-10-08, 07:19 PM Well said cameron.
triodes2002 06-18-08, 12:07 AM and no mentioned that the mits has more accurate color than the JVC
rboster 06-18-08, 07:59 AM I assume the OP lost interest in his thread or not on AVS much
Jason Turk 06-19-08, 03:56 PM That could go either way. On paper, the RS1 is a much better unit. And in real world, I would overall say it is as well. But, remember there is a technology difference. DLP and DILA (both good in their own rights) each have a different look. I only mention this as I find when I demo projectors for clients, often those used to DLP can have a tougher time "adjusting" to the different look of a DILA (not always the case, but often enough that it merits mentioning). If you can, try and find an LCOS basd unit local (Sony, JVC, etc...).
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