I know I'm gonna feel stupid when I find the answer but I was playing a game on my kids 360 today saving my progress all along on the hard drive when my daughte asked to play the piniata game No problem, I just figured that i would transfer my game save from the hardrive to a memory card and take the game to my own 360 along with the memory card. but I couldn't start from my saved progress. What gives/

hmm....not sure if it makes a difference but were you saving under your profile on your daughters 360?

this problem does exist, but mostly just with viva pinata. i dont know if they were trying to limit sharing or "cloning" of animal types or something like that, cause you could copy your save, send them to another GT and still have them loaded on another save or something of that sort, so they basically limited it to the console/gamertag it was created/discovered on.

this is how i understand it.

Yeah, for the most part, whenever you play, make sure your controller is signed into your profile (which can be on the memory unit also).

hmm....not sure if it makes a difference but were you saving under your profile on your daughters 360?

well the console that I originally saved the progress on uses the profile that I created for my kids. Man I like the 360, but not being able to move my saved games from console to console kind of sucks. We have two ps2s in the family and we can do that alll the trime.

it's just a limitation on this game.

how exciting would it be to get some exclusive pinata after all kinds of work when you could just download a gamesave online, or have someone mail it to you because they duped theirs?

it's just a limitation on this game.

how exciting would it be to get some exclusive pinata after all kinds of work when you could just download a gamesave online, or have someone mail it to you because they duped theirs?

Actually the game save that I want to transfer is from Star Trek Legacy. The reason I wanted to move it to my own 360 is so that my daughter wanted to play her piniata game.

If I'm understanding you correctly, it would seem that you need to transfer the profile that you were playing under along with the game save. Having multiple 360s in the house, I run into this all the time. I hope this helps. :)

Man that kind of sucks. I assume that you can only have your profile on one console at a time and seeing that the kids need there profile so that they can play their games I guess I'm startin all over on my own console. I see wanting to tie achievments to the profiles but games saves, now that's dumb. Between these two systems PS3 and 360 I find that both have some really cool things about them and both have some things that are really annoying. Yes the 360 has more games but it seems like most are FPS and I hate FPS. The good things with the ps3 is that it plays blue ray and my fingers don't tremble when I attempt to turn it on, not the case with the 360. Microsoft is lucky that the failure rates hasn't seem to make people hessitant about buying. Infact I think I read somewhere that a person is on his 6th 360 console. Now that's loyalty, altough I do rember having my fat version ps2 replaced four times. The slimline ps2 was flawless, the 2 that I have are going strong, well exept the one my son dropped. It only plays cds and the games that are not on dvd's. Anyway I guess the search for the system that performs the way we hope will always be ongoing.

If you save your profile to the memory card that should solve your problem.

Man that kind of sucks. I assume that you can only have your profile on one console at a time and seeing that the kids need there profile so that they can play their games I guess I'm startin all over on my own console. I see wanting to tie achievments to the profiles but games saves, now that's dumb. Between these two systems PS3 and 360 I find that both have some really cool things about them and both have some things that are really annoying. Yes the 360 has more games but it seems like most are FPS and I hate FPS. The good things with the ps3 is that it plays blue ray and my fingers don't tremble when I attempt to turn it on, not the case with the 360. Microsoft is lucky that the failure rates hasn't seem to make people hessitant about buying. Infact I think I read somewhere that a person is on his 6th 360 console. Now that's loyalty, altough I do rember having my fat version ps2 replaced four times. The slimline ps2 was flawless, the 2 that I have are going strong, well exept the one my son dropped. It only plays cds and the games that are not on dvd's. Anyway I guess the search for the system that performs the way we hope will always be ongoing.

They tie your game saves to your profile to keep people from passing around game saves to get the achievements. I know it seems annoying but it is all a proactive effort to minimize cheating. If you want to move around from 360 to 360 then you have two options.

1) You can recover your gamertag on the console you want to play on at that time. You would also need use a memory card to move any game saves if needed.

2) You put your gamertag on the memory card then you can just plug the memory card into which ever console you want to play on and you are good to go. I think this is the best option since you already need to put your game saves on the memory card anyway.

They tie your game saves to your profile to keep people from passing around game saves to get the achievements. I know it seems annoying but it is all a proactive effort to minimize cheating. If you want to move around from 360 to 360 then you have two options..

Yeah but it seems like there should a way to be able to tie the achievments to the profile, not the saves. The achievment points are collected as you play the game not after you save them. I guess an example would be like playing Madden. Your saves are not tied to your roster saves. Or NBA Live where you have to save the settings in order to keep the awards that you win. Saving the season's schedule is not tied to them at all.

1) You can recover your gamertag on the console you want to play on at that time. You would also need use a memory card to move any game saves if needed..
I assume there is no way to use one profile on both consoles at the same time. I quess it's good to know for the future but I gonna half to start over again on legacy and NCAA football.

2) You put your gamertag on the memory card then you can just plug the memory card into which ever console you want to play on and you are good to go. I think this is the best option since you already need to put your game saves on the memory card anyway.
I also assume that you would need to have profile in use to view what ever is downloaded from market place stuff like movies and tv shows. What about game demos?

Yeah but it seems like there should a way to be able to tie the achievments to the profile, not the saves. The achievment points are collected as you play the game not after you save them. I guess an example would be like playing Madden. Your saves are not tied to your roster saves. Or NBA Live where you have to save the settings in order to keep the awards that you win. Saving the season's schedule is not tied to them at all. Game saves are the record of your progression through the game. Achievements are achieved by doing different things in the game for example by reaching a certain level. They are kind of intertwined.

I understand your frustration of having to start your games all over but they are all tied together to minimize cheating. Like I said if they didn't do it then people would be trading saves all over the place. I know of several places you can do that for the other consoles and the old xbox is included. I actually prefer that they did this since it promotes a fair and level playing field. I have been in your shoes before. I had to start all over before on a game after a game save was corrupted. Try orb hunting for a second time and I only had a handful left for the achievement. I have slowly been working to get back to where I was.


I assume there is no way to use one profile on both consoles at the same time. I quess it's good to know for the future but I gonna half to start over again on legacy and NCAA football. I hear there is a way to but really is a pain in the tail and pointless since you would still have to move your game saves back and forth anyway.


I also assume that you would need to have profile in use to view what ever is downloaded from market place stuff like movies and tv shows. What about game demos? Well with marketplace stuff it is tied to the gamertag and the console it was originally purchased on. So it is playable to anyone on the console it was purchased on. So lets say you buy a game on xbox live on your console. Then one day you want to play it on your kids console so you go an download it again or you just swap the hard drives. You would then have to be signed on to live to play the game. If you swap hard drives...you could just swap your hard drive back to your console and you or anyone could play it again on your console. Best way to handle that is to download the games on to the kids console and then if you want to play them on yours then you can re-download them yourself on your console.

Ok one more question. Why is there a need to make sure people can't pass along achievments? Its not like your earning points to get money or something.

Ok one more question. Why is there a need to make sure people can't pass along achievments? Its not like your earning points to get money or something.

There is a perceived value of achievements to some people. If you were able to cheat to get them very easily, then it would lessen the value of getting them in the first place. MS has a vested interest in keeping the fun level and perceived value of achievements high. Achievements help sell their games.

Also, there are achievement based competitions where real prizes are handed out.

There is a perceived value of achievements to some people. If you were able to cheat to get them very easily, then it would lessen the value of getting them in the first place. MS has a vested interest in keeping the fun level and perceived value of achievements high. Achievements help sell their games.

Also, there are achievement based competitions where real prizes are handed out.

It would seem to me that the people who valued the achievements wouldn't need mechinisms to prevent them from cheating. When I say that I am not trying to argue for the right to have the ability be able to cheat or what ever. Now if you need achievements to unlock portions of the game then I guess that's different. I don't Know. I understand where your comming from and it's not something that is big deal for me. Something of a little annoyance for me but I will get over it.

I guess to me it just seems there is a way to make that easier. The best example I can think of is NBA Live. I'm not sure how it works on the 360 but on the ps2 lets say I when the MVP of the year in season one. Then I get points and A trophy in my trophy vault. I have to save that separately from my season. When go on to the next season, if I havent saved my achievements then it all in my mind. Hey, I just thought of another example madden football. all my madden points and awards are tied to a profile, which is not part of a dynasty and is saved saparately. If I load up a dynasty and forget to and save my profile, which I never do, I lose any achievements gained. To bad so sad. but I still have my progress from the season.



Like I said before. It's not a big deal, just some frustration. After the intial shock and some quotes of "#$@! and @#!#%. I'm good.

It would seem to me that the people who valued the achievements wouldn't need mechinisms to prevent them from cheating. When I say that I am not trying to argue for the right to have the ability be able to cheat or what ever.

Achievements are like a high score. Basically, you use them to compare your score to other people's scores. They even have achievement comparison built into the live.xbox.com web site and it is built into the dashboard. Hell, there is even an automatic achievement "brag" message that you can send to people (added in the spring 2007 update).

So comparison to other players is a big part of achievements, as well. Again, if it is easy to cheat, it cheapens the experience.

Just buy a memory card and save your profile to that. You will be able to transfer your saved games that way. There's no need to start over.

Ok one more question. Why is there a need to make sure people can't pass along achievments? Its not like your earning points to get money or something.

You earn bragging rights with them.

It would seem to me that the people who valued the achievements wouldn't need mechinisms to prevent them from cheating. Tell that to some players in Major League Baseball.




When I say that I am not trying to argue for the right to have the ability be able to cheat or what ever. Now if you need achievements to unlock portions of the game then I guess that's different.

You don't need them in order to unlock things in the game but it is a way to see how far along in the game or how much skill you have acquired. And with the fact that anyone who knows your gamertag and look and see which you have gotten it makes it hard to fudge that when bragging. I like it this way better then then before. My nephew would always tell me he beat such and such game and come to find out he would get stuck on one part and just quit playing. Now if I see him stuck I can try to help him. Then you also have the people who claim to beat the game when they haven't. Now you can see on thier gamertag. Of course now they just say it is on their other gamertag and when you ask them what their other gamertag is they say they don't want to give it out. :rolleyes:


I guess to me it just seems there is a way to make that easier. The best example I can think of is NBA Live. I'm not sure how it works on the 360 but on the ps2 lets say I when the MVP of the year in season one. Then I get points and A trophy in my trophy vault. I have to save that separately from my season. When go on to the next season, if I havent saved my achievements then it all in my mind. Hey, I just thought of another example madden football. all my madden points and awards are tied to a profile, which is not part of a dynasty and is saved saparately. If I load up a dynasty and forget to and save my profile, which I never do, I lose any achievements gained. To bad so sad. but I still have my progress from the season. Those are just different saves but they are still all tied together to the gamertag. So you still couldn't use them with another gamertag. It is kind of like HS. You had different classes with different teachers and you got grades for all your classes. Your report card shows your grades and your school transcripts kept track of how far you have been. Which is all tied to your name. Now for the same reason you can swap transcripts and/or report cards with other people is the same as to way you can't swap gamesaves.


I do agree that it sucks to have to start over. My other nephew had to do it the other day once he figured out that when he almost beat Naruto that he was on his brothers gamertag. lol

all I am saying that these mechanisms are pretty extreme just so you can say "Nah Nah I'm better than you". Maybe there is something in my brain that's keep me from understanding, but why would I care about how many achievements some guy thousands of miles away has and whether he did himself or not. I'm not concerned if a guy used his friend's saves to make him look good. If he sucks at it and you play him online the truth will come out. The kind of cheating that bugs me is the kind that intrupts the online experience. Like when I use to play socom and some people would use cheat codes to wipe every body else online making the game not fun.

Anyway I found myself being even more annoyed today when i tried to join my son in a game on Gears of War. He was playing a campaign and ask me to join him to play co-op. I didn't know that we could. So I added a second controller to the xbox and tried to join in. Couldn't join in because i wasn't logged in to a profile. so I went and got my MU and sign in. All is well right. Nope. After Gears of War, we dicided to set up our NCAA football season where he, I and my other son each take our own college team through a dynasty season. We create our own rosters which I had all ready started a couple days ago. However I made sure to save it under the profile which we all would be using. I couldn't load it up becase I guess the console and game was still under my profile which I had to use join my son in a game that is under his profile. After sever tries and messing around, we were finally able to load the correct profile. Taking out my own MU help make this happen. I after manipulating the roster and setting up our teams I tried to save the dynasty under his profile but it wouldn't let me. The machine said I didn't have a loaded profile so I couldn't save it. I had to physically switch the controlloers in order to save the dynasty. Confused, well so am I. And your saying all of this is so that when I say that I am a bad ass at Gears of War, you can look at my information and know that it's authentic. That's just dumb.

What they need to do take that time that they spent creating this scheme to create a scheme that let's me be sure that when I turn the console on...... it WILL turn on.

all I am saying that these mechanisms are pretty extreme just so you can say "Nah Nah I'm better than you". Maybe there is something in my brain that's keep me from understanding, but why would I care about how many achievements some guy thousands of miles away has and whether he did himself or not. I'm not concerned if a guy used his friend's saves to make him look good. If he sucks at it and you play him online the truth will come out. The kind of cheating that bugs me is the kind that intrupts the online experience. Like when I use to play socom and some people would use cheat codes to wipe every body else online making the game not fun.

Anyway I found myself being even more annoyed today when i tried to join my son in a game on Gears of War. He was playing a campaign and ask me to join him to play co-op. I didn't know that we could. So I added a second controller to the xbox and tried to join in. Couldn't join in because i wasn't logged in to a profile. so I went and got my MU and sign in. All is well right. Nope. After Gears of War, we dicided to set up our NCAA football season where he, I and my other son each take our own college team through a dynasty season. We create our own rosters which I had all ready started a couple days ago. However I made sure to save it under the profile which we all would be using. I couldn't load it up becase I guess the console and game was still under my profile which I had to use join my son in a game that is under his profile. After sever tries and messing around, we were finally able to load the correct profile. Taking out my own MU help make this happen. I after manipulating the roster and setting up our teams I tried to save the dynasty under his profile but it wouldn't let me. The machine said I didn't have a loaded profile so I couldn't save it. I had to physically switch the controlloers in order to save the dynasty. Confused, well so am I. And your saying all of this is so that when I say that I am a bad ass at Gears of War, you can look at my information and know that it's authentic. That's just dumb.

What they need to do take that time that they spent creating this scheme to create a scheme that let's me be sure that when I turn the console on...... it WILL turn on.

Yeah EA is retarded. :D;)