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The 2008 NFL Playoffs
NFC Wild Card Weekend in HDTV on NBC
Washington Redskins (9-7) @ Seattle Seahawks (10-6)
Live from the Qwest Field, Seattle, WA
January 5, 2008
4:30pm ET
1080i & DD5.1
Pregame will start at 4:00 PM on NBC.
Announcers:
Tom Hammond, Cris Collinsworth, Bob Neumeier (Field reporter)
Weather Forecast: (weather.com)
Showers early, becoming a steady rain by the afternoon. Windy. High 46F. Winds SSW at 15 to 25 mph. Rainfall around a quarter of an inch.
Please include your source (OTA, Cable, Satellite) and your location (City & Station) with your posts.
Please see this thread for the AFC game later today.
(http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=12693735)
Pregame is up in 1080i HDTV & DD5.1, on the NBC Digital Television network.
From The Dallas Morning News, by RICK GOSSELIN
NFC Wild-Card Preview: Redskins (9-7) at Seahawks (10-6)
Line: Seahawks by 3 ½
Washington will win if ...
Todd Collins continues to play relatively error-free football at quarterback. Young Jason Campbell committed 20 turnovers in the first 12 games as the Redskins stumbled to a 5-7 start. Collins has committed two turnovers, both fumbles, in the final four games for a 4-0 finish.
Seattle will win if ...
Seattle can spread the field with four healthy wide receivers. Deion Branch, Nate Burleson, Bobby Engram and D.J. Hackett have all had 100-yard receiving games this season, but the Seahawks never seemed to have more than three available at any time. The four present a defensive nightmare.
KEYS TO TODAY'S GAME
1. Smash-mouth football
Joe Gibbs has won Super Bowls with the running game – and it's the legs of Clinton Portis that have fueled this December surge. He has carried the ball at least 20 times in each of the last three games and rushed for 100-plus yards in two of them. The Seahawks have a top-12 run defense and have not allowed a 100-yard rusher in 11 games.
2. Power vs. power
Two Pro Bowlers square off on the edge when Seattle defensive end Patrick Kerney rushes the passer against Washington left tackle Chris Samuels. The two times Collins has turned the ball over this season have been on fumbles. Kerney led the NFC with 14 ½ sacks and forced fumbles on five of them. If the ball starts bouncing, Washington will be bounced from the playoffs.
3. Kick it away
The Redskins rank in the top six in both kickoff and punt coverage, but those units will face their stiffest test of the season. Seattle has returned two kickoffs and one punt for touchdowns, with Nate Burleson running back one of each. The Jets' Leon Washington returned a kickoff 86 yards for a touchdown against the Redskins in November.
SPORTSDAY PICKS
Tim Cowlishaw: Seahawks, 20-13
Seahawks have a solid home-field advantage, make the most of it.
Rick Gosselin: Seahawks, 17-16
Short work week, 2,300-mile road trip take a toll on the Redskins.
Kevin Sherrington: Seahawks, 24-20
Skins' big victory came last month.
Jean-Jacques Taylor: Seahawks, 20-13
Redskins' magical run ends as Todd Collins has first poor performance of the season.
I think Tom Hammond needs more eyeliner.
I think Tom Hammond needs more eyeliner.
!!!!!!!!!! I was JUST thinking the same thing!!!!!!!!!!!!:D
Mike4HDTV 01-05-08, 04:40 PM PQ looks okay for OTA in Miami. I'm seeing macroblocking during fast movements.
UnnDunn 01-05-08, 04:45 PM Is anyone else getting a horrible DD5.1 mix from the Redskins-Seahawks game? Seems like crowd noise is only coming from the rears, commentators from the center, feature music is almost inaudible and there are virtually no LFE effects to speak of...
They just did the starting lineups, and we couldn't hear anything apart from a very quiet rumble from the sub. :( Some commercials are the same way, while other commercials come in just fine.
The All-American High School football game earlier was the same way.
WNBC SD (ch. 4) seems unaffected, but then that's just Dolby Pro Logic.
It's really killing our enjoyment of the game.
Comcast of Union, NJ - WNBC HD (ch. 232) - Motorola DCH 6200 - TOSlink - Yamaha HTR-6030 receiver
jefbal99 01-05-08, 04:46 PM WILX via OTA in Lansing, MI
PQ is very good so far, little bit of blocking, but great for NBC!
Is anyone else getting a horrible DD5.1 mix from the Redskins-Seahawks game? Center is too hot.
elmalloc 01-05-08, 04:57 PM center is way too hot
UnnDunn 01-05-08, 04:58 PM Center is too hot.
For me, it seems the center and rears are just fine, but the L/R fronts are completely dead.
And then they go to a feature package, and sound goes away completely save for some subtle LFE action.
But even when the sound is there, we're only getting commentators and the crowd, no on-field audio, no music, no sfx. :(
jefbal99 01-05-08, 04:59 PM just had about a 25 seconds video freeze
SNF Mixer 01-05-08, 05:05 PM Hi from Pittsburgh. I'll look in on our thread later.
WS
UnnDunn 01-05-08, 05:05 PM And now the rears are gone too. :(
asterion 01-05-08, 05:13 PM I think you're right. I think I'm only getting sound out of the center channel though my receiver swears it's receiving a 5.1 signal.
OTA from KTSM in El Paso.
PQ is not looking good, I have seen better from NBC in the past. Some of the cameras have not been shaded properly, the lockoff in the corner way way overexposured on the first shot from it. Sounds is off as well.
Splicer010 01-05-08, 05:32 PM Sound is less than impressive...SNF has fantastic audio in comparison...PQ is OK...No complaints there...
WLWT-DT OTA Cincinnati...
hooked01 01-05-08, 05:45 PM Someone needs to go into the stands and stifle the woman that keeps wailing like a siren on every play! Very annoying...and I'm only listening on my TV's speakers. It must sound worse on a decent sound system.
rwbullet 01-05-08, 06:00 PM Sound is horrid, center way to hot, nothing out of rears. I have to turn it down during commercials so we dont get blasted. PQ is so so with the occasional blocking. Poor effort put forth by NBC on this one, hopefully it will be better in the second game.
Swisher33 01-05-08, 06:05 PM PQ is fair at best. There's some ghosting, but definitley 100X better than the HS All-American game earlier.
Watching via digital cable (WNBC-DT).
Southern2356 01-05-08, 06:06 PM Hi from Pittsburgh. I'll look in on our thread later.
Hey Wendell. Hope the weather is better in Pittsburgh. I was hoping we would get that game and I'd be home for the game. We'll be tearing down during your game. Have a great show!
SNF Mixer 01-05-08, 06:08 PM Hey Wendell. Hope the weather is better in Pittsburgh. I was hoping we would get that game and I'd be home for the game. We'll be tearing down during your game. Have a great show!
Sorry it worked out that way. Pitt is nice. A little misty, but we've been so cold the last month or so, we'll take it.
Jeremy W 01-05-08, 06:29 PM PQ on WDIV/Detroit via DirecTV is awful. There is ghosting, and lots of macroblocking. It's bordering on unwatchable.
paule123 01-05-08, 06:30 PM Watching WKYC-DT, Cleveland, one WeatherPlus sub on a 50" 1080p plasma.
PQ is typical NBC so-so quality. Closeups look good but the 20/50/20 yard cams soft, noticing a bit of a red fringe on the Redskins uniforms from those angles. Macroblocky/artifacty with motion but not a total PQ disaster.
Agree with the others on the audio PQ, completely lifeless, not much from the rears.
Chris Collinsworth seems to be a bit more enthusiastic this week without Bryant Gumbel.
paule123 01-05-08, 06:39 PM Chris Collinsworth seems to be a bit more enthusiastic this week without Bryant Gumbel.
Yes, there aren't those long uncomfortable pauses after Gumbel says something stupid.
Let's go Seattle, win this week so that my Bucs don't have to worry about playing in the cold next week if they beat NYG.
MrBostn 01-05-08, 06:44 PM Two sorry ass teams. Vodka Collins stinks, and I wonder why Seattle isn't killing the 'Skins. Bad execution on both sides.
Southern2356 01-05-08, 06:45 PM GOOOOOOOO Clock!:D
Audio678 01-05-08, 06:53 PM Watching in L.A. AQ seems fine. Great field effects.
chad473 01-05-08, 06:53 PM audio is mediocre at best here. mostly center channel and totally lifeless.
lovethe5.1 01-05-08, 06:55 PM I'm sure everything will be great for the second game!:)
ABCTV99 01-05-08, 06:59 PM Hey Wendell who is doing this game?
SNF Mixer 01-05-08, 07:01 PM Hey Wendell who is doing this game?
Define 'doing.'
Southern2356 01-05-08, 07:04 PM Define 'doing.'
LOL!
Southern2356 01-05-08, 07:49 PM Have a good game Wendell...no OT on this coast!
mx6bfast 01-05-08, 07:54 PM Memphis, WMC, OTA. 2 subs, 1 is telling us Tube is no longer available, and taking up just under 2 mbps telling us that. :confused::mad::confused::cool:
Bitrate of tonight's NFL game. Looks every bit as bad as it shows. All but 1 minute of this was during the actual game.
http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/8053/wmc1508nh4.th.jpg (http://img89.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wmc1508nh4.jpg)
jefbal99 01-05-08, 08:27 PM PQ in Lansing started out good and then went straight to hell, lots of blocking and movement.
lovethe5.1 01-05-08, 09:10 PM I get it 'Mr Wendel'...funny.
Watched the Skins OTA.
Why is it so many shots look like you are looking through a gel?
Video quality was much worse than last weekend. NBC should be ashamed to put out a product with so many pixelization issues during movement.
my local NBC Madison, WI station pumps out over 17mbps and it still pixelates like hell during football. NBC is just the pits.
SbWillie 01-06-08, 12:03 AM Looked like KRAUP here in OKC...terrible feed!
UnnDunn 01-06-08, 01:18 AM Fixed the audio problem. Turns out my receiver had the front L/R speakers turned off completely. Soon as I turned them back on, the sound was fine (though the center was still kinda hot.)
vurbano 01-06-08, 09:37 AM Looked like crap OTA here. And I don't mean the Redskins play.
Audio678 01-08-08, 12:33 PM I have been reading the posts on this thread and the ones from this weekend.
You guys are worse than the women on the view. All you do is sit there in your living room and trash out the shows and the jobs the professionals are doing. If you could do it better you would be at the site instead of sitting in your living room with a keyboard in your hands.
mx6bfast 01-08-08, 05:24 PM I have been reading the posts on this thread and the ones from this weekend.
You guys are worse than the women on the view. All you do is sit there in your living room and trash out the shows and the jobs the professionals are doing. If you could do it better you would be at the site instead of sitting in your living room with a keyboard in your hands.
I've been reading your posts and think you are like a woman bringing up the same thing over and over again. http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=12736402#post12736402
:D
Anyways, if you are happy with the sub par HD PQ from NBC and FOX fine. Let us people who enjoy high definition quality moan when we see it.
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