I have never bought a PS3 game. I've bought very few PC games. I find the price a lot of times does not equal their value.

This is for surely true with PS3 games at $60 and generally no discounts.

The PC games I've bought have been high resale value or discounted. Call of Duty(1,2&4), FarCry, Supreme Commander. Even those I've never paid more than $40.

We've rented a few games and think I am near getting done playing R&C. There are some games I will pay full price for. In fact GT5 if it was near $70 I'd still buy it because there is a huge value in that game for me as far as replay.

I was going to buy R&C but at $60 I expect a lot of gameplay value. After playing it for the past 3 days it is for sure there. Its not only an excellent game but also is not a total PITA to play like some. They've done a great job making the game fun to play and in difficult spots allowing you to build things up to get past area's if you die. My wife's cousins just got a PS3 for Christmas and her aunt is balking at the price of the games too, I told her R&C is worth it and she'll pick it up.

Knowing what I know now I would have bought it straight away. Its a far more immersing game than I would have expected. At $60 for the work they put into it I feel its a good value.

Question is, how many other PS3 games out there are worth that kind of money?

How many are that "big" of a game as far as play value and replay value?

After renting a few games I would be pissed if I had bought them. COD4 is great on the PC....not for me on the PS3 because unless I can use a keyboard/mouse I'm lost :)

Anyone else think the games are too high of a price? If they were as good as R&C I could see it but it doesn't seem like a lot are.

Anyone have a good system of buying, playing for X period of time and reselling. Does that dollar recovery and time spent with it make something like Gamefly worth while?

I'd be interested in hearing because I cannot imagine people going out and blowing $60 a game a few times a month.

If you like to play a lot of games, gamefly is a great option and quite convenient. I While the $48 price tag for new games might not be as good of a deal as it sounds considering the monthly fees, I still think its a great way of picking up new titles at a discount price. Just make sure you return your current rental a few days before a games release and you should have a brand new copy at your door two days after release with the box and instructions following shortly. Alternatively, sites like half.com are a great way of buying and selling used games without having to deal with the ripoff/markups of selling and buying used at gamestop

Oblivion is hands down the most value on the PS3 and for me COD4 (I have on the 360 though) would probably be a close second. We rent about 75% of our games and if we really like them and they show good replay value then I will purchase them.

Any game with an online component usually has very extensive "replay" value. Online play constantly changes with the level of the players. I just completed Motorstorm and am now discovering that playing online is like starting a whole new game as I am not that good against the other players (rather than the offline AI opponents). If it weren't for the online feature, Motorstorm probably wouldn't have much replay value once the game is completed (except to show off the PS3 to visitors).

Sure, everyone would like paying less for everything. Consider what it costs to put a title like R&C on store shelves.

may want to consider preowned games as well. Game stop just had a buy 2 get one free deal. I got 3 games for 68 dollars.

Check out harry potter i got it used for 24 dollars. and it was way worth the money for the amount of fun i had. (even though it got bad reviews)

R&C is worth $60...my point was how many others are there that are really worth that?

R&C is worth $60...my point was how many others are there that are really worth that?

For the most part, that's a subjective answer you're looking for. Guy that plays NHL08 with his buddies every night sees $60 as an ok value. A guy that hates NHL probably wouldn't pay a dollar for it. Same for just about all games.

^^ Agreed.

Sure value is:

Uncharted
CoD 4
Ratchet
Eye of Judgment (if you enjoy card games, and strategy, and free Eye)
Resistance Fall of Man

You can't miss with these titles and your $60 in replay value or enjoyment.

Sports titles usually maintain their value with the online components, like Madden.

Speng.

Since you're not into console shooters I'd say there isnt a single game right now I'd be happy about paying $60 bucks for. Until White Knight or a FF comes out, I dont see myself paying full price for anything. Hell even with the 100's of hours to be had at GTA I still wont be buying it unless I can get it for under $40.

I find the price a lot of times does not equal their value.

You may be looking at it wrong. Do you buy movies at all? The average movie costs about $20. And that's about an hour and a half of enjoyment; more if you view it multiple times. But video games can go from 10 to 100 hours of game time depending on the game. Then there's countless hours of online gaming or replaying through the game on a harder difficulty setting to add to that. I'd say the price definately does equal the value.

If you are patient and keep your eyes open you can find deals on new games all the time. The only games I have payed full price for were R&C and Uncharted. I was able to find NBA2K8 for 28.99 (Target), RFOM for 39.99 (BB), COD4 for 44.99 (Target), Warhawk for 49.99 (BB).

You own a PS3 but no games...? Makes zero sense man...

Renting gets old because you have to give the game up.

Games like COD4, Resistance, or any other online game are well worth the money because of the replay value.

Then theres alot of good offline valued games but it just dpeends on what you like.

Only buy the good reviewed games! Don't take a chance on something you heard was good but could totally come out to be bad. I rely on sites like Gamerankings.com or Gamespot.com and most of the time they are pretty accurate (Gamerankings is a great place to look).

I really wouldn't bother your time trying to sell games and buy them its not worth it really... I personally think its just pointless and you should rent if you don't want to keep the game.

Also if you just keep your eyes open you can find ALOT of good deals on games. Best Buy has a $10 off any PS3 coupon...They also had Resistance, Call of Duty 4, and Assassin's Creed at $39 recently... so that would of been $29.

Just today I went to Circuit City and picked up NBA Street Homecourt for $8.96 +tax. They had alot of 2007 sports games for that price, and if your like me and believe there are virtually no diff from one year to the next then that is a steal of a price.

The $60 price tag is only for titles you know you will get solid enjoyment and a fair amount of longevity.

But the price for games always goes down... usually after a year or so. The game is still great, but it may become marketed as a "greatest hits" title to generate more sales.

Also, the Gamefly rental service has a "keep it" option for most games, allowing brand new games to be bought for a used price -- that's how I got Ratchet & Clank for around $43. ;) I quite like my Gamefly membership, but be advised they have more than their share of detractors -- shipping times can be very slow and new releases & popular titles often have a wait time for a couple weeks after released.

The Playstation3 is still an infant -- once its library grows, you will see a lot more discounted titles that will be worth your money.

Elder Scrolls Oblivion for 29.99 regular price = unbelievable value. Not to mention there are various coupons floating around here to get it for even cheaper.

Unless you dont want to touch a used game, that would be NONE. Why? Got Uncharted 2 weeks after release for $45 incl. shipping off ebay and it looked like it hadnt been touched. And unless you want to save them for your grandchildren, they can go right back on ebay for a fairly minimal loss when youve had enough of it. Last game I paid retail for was MGS2. That wasnt worth it either!

Elder Scrolls Oblivion for 29.99 regular price = unbelievable value. Not to mention there are various coupons floating around here to get it for even cheaper.

even today, oblivion would be worth the price of rock band, in my book. 170 hours on that thing and still haven't done shivering isles or many other quests... man that game is good! :cool:

I don't think I've put down SKATE. since I bought it, tried playing Madden 08, 2K7 Baseball and NBA Live a couple of times, but Online SKATE. has held my attention much longer.

My family has over 300 hrs in to Warhawk...

Pretty simple really - the value in the game is what it's worth to you = the amount of enjoyment you get out of it. Only you can answer that, depends on what you like to play. Download the demos & see what strikes your fancy (that's how I got interested in R&C :D )

My family has over 300 hrs in to Warhawk...

Same here. We have Uncharted, Motorstorm,NBA08 etc which are great and fun and we play them, 360 and wii and the family keeps going back to Warhawk.

Compared to movie prices, games are a bargain.

I agree.. I definitely like to see value.

It upsets me when games are too short. I feel like they should be much longer if I'm paying $60 for them.

I'm also the kind of guy that likes a movie to be longer if I'm going to pay to see it in the theatre. I generally don't go see movies any shorter than 1hr45min. I'll wait to rent them. I like to get the most bang for my buck and be immersed in the movie/game for as long as possible, to fully get my moneys worth.

That's why I won't bother with games like Heavenly Sword, even though I hear it's great. I might rent it, but I certainly won't buy it for that price.

Hell, even uncharted, supposed to be one of the best games out there for ps3, and IMO, at 12 hours gameplay (or something like that) it's not worth the $60. You are essentially paying $5/hr to play it, if you are the sort of person, like me, who doesn't get much out of playing through a SP game again.

But, as mentioned, on the other hand, I would have paid $100 for COD4. I love that game to death, and I have already logged over 75 hours on it. It has a ton of replay value (MP) and was well worth the $60 for sure.

Compared to movie prices, games are a bargain.I agree. I'm mostly a movie watcher as opposed to a gamer (our PS3 is our first console), but the amount of time and enjoyment we've gotten out of our games has made them worth it. $60 is expensive and is not chump change, but compare a movie that costs $20 for 2 hours of entertainment vs the 10s or 100s of hours you can get out of a game.

It upsets me when games are too short. I feel like they should be much longer if I'm paying $60 for them.
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Length is a tricky subject.

Uncharted at 12 hours is taut, nicely paced, varied, and keeps you moving. If it were 18 or 25 hours it would probably just be a slog - not to mention it takes time to develop all that extra gameplay. Extra levels, art, etc. So its possible the existing 12 hours would've suffered.

Back when I was a kid and had unlimited time to play a game, I wanted tons and tons of length. Now, give me a good 8-15 hour game and that is fine for me. Don't waste my time with padded out ******** or filler to appease the kids who can play all night every night.

I agree. I'm mostly a movie watcher as opposed to a gamer (our PS3 is our first console), but the amount of time and enjoyment we've gotten out of our games has made them worth it. $60 is expensive and is not chump change, but compare a movie that costs $20 for 2 hours of entertainment vs the 10s or 100s of hours you can get out of a game.Yeah, the value in dollar/hour is better for games, on average.

It's still tough to compare, though, because there's no telling how many times you'll watch a movie. If you are buying it, you better watch it at least twice, else you should have rented it. $20/(2hr movie * watch 2 times) = $5/hr.

You might make the same arguement for a game, where if you buy it you should play it twice, but I think that it happens more often with games than movies where people buy it because they feel that renting isn't worth it or whatever, and they play it only once at 12 hours, so $60/12 = $5/hr, same as watching a 2 hour movie twice.

Clearly there are plenty of games that offer much more than 12 hours of enjoyment and tip the scales, but you could also argue that there are some movies that you'll watch a dozen times and that will also tip the scales.

Length is a tricky subject.

Uncharted at 12 hours is taut, nicely paced, varied, and keeps you moving. If it were 18 or 25 hours it would probably just be a slog - not to mention it takes time to develop all that extra gameplay. Extra levels, art, etc. So its possible the existing 12 hours would've suffered.

Back when I was a kid and had unlimited time to play a game, I wanted tons and tons of length. Now, give me a good 8-15 hour game and that is fine for me. Don't waste my time with padded out ******** or filler to appease the kids who can play all night every night.Yeah, based on the development time and such that is involved... especially with the games getting more and more graphically intense, I definitely understand the games being shorter. I mean, I know WHY they are shorter. And I don't want them to drag out (Assassin's Creed) just to make them longer, either. I do know that it's an unreasonable request for all games to do this. But some do, and those are the ones that I'm generally drawn to.

I guess it does relate to how much time you can/want to game per day/week/month/year. For me, I become particularly interested in games that will "suck me in" and last a long time. I don't much care for shorter games that are great while they last, but are completed/forgotten 2 weeks after buying it, especially when you pay $60 for it.

Game length should be ideally around 8hrs to 14hrs (without cut scenes *eyes* Heavenly Sword).

Then they should have an online component to extend the replay-ability.

If I want to play a game with 100+hrs, I'll buy a MMO where I can socialize and enjoy the game even more.

Speng.

Game length should be ideally around 8hrs to 14hrs (without cut scenes *eyes* Heavenly Sword).

Then they should have an online component to extend the replay-ability.

If I want to play a game with 100+hrs, I'll buy a MMO where I can socialize and enjoy the game even more.

Speng.IMO, 12-14hr SP, plus a good MP is fine with me as far as value goes. 12-14hr SP with no MP bothers me a little. For a strictly SP game, I would enjoy it the most if it were in the 20-30hr range. That is, 3-4 weeks to complete with an hour a day playing (average). That's what *I* would like as ideal, but I know that's too long for some people, because there are multiple good games out at once, can't find the time to play, etc.

I've had Uncharted in my hands a few times now, wanting to buy it, but I just can't justify it, because, even though I loved the demo and I've heard GREAT things about it, I know I'll beat it in a week or two and be completely done with it, because that's how I am with SP games. And I can't justify spending $60 on it. I'm waiting to either rent it or pick it up on discount :shrug: I'm also waiting to stop being addicted to COD4 so I can play anything else!! :p

I was able to get RFOM from ebay for $25 new, so there are some deals out there, just takes a little time to find them.

odly enough I bought a new PS3 20gb on ebay a few weeks ago and I don't have any PS3 games and i'm really enjoying it a lot. I bought it to use it as a HTPC via linux but havn't even installed it yet.

I only had a PS2 slim for a couple months so i'm having a great time playing PS2 games that are cheap.

If I had been a PS2 user since launch, I think i'd be pretty dissapointed with the selection of games compared to the 360 that are really "worthy" of my money.

I've learned alot buying tons of SNES and N64 games that when I look at it in the long run, there are certain games i'm glad I bought, but others I could have done without.

I'm going to do the same with the PS3 since replayability of games is a big factor to me.

Also, I too am really excited about GT5, I just bought GT4 (first GT i've played) and I too would pay 70$ for GT5.

I think the biggest problem with the technological advances is the amount of time and manpower it takes to make a game. I don't understand why game developers don't sell their game engines so developers can just develop the game, and not worry about the grahpics

Buying brand new, at full pop, just doesn't make much sense, PERIOD. You're talking $59.99 plus tax. Let's just say the average sales tax in the USA is 8 percent. That would translate to $64.79. Basically 65 smackers. That's alot of bean pies if you ask me.

So, what is a next-gen gamer to do? Well, there are lots of creative ways to keep your cost basis low. The easiest way to do it, is to buy used, not at a place like GameStop or GameCrazy, but from an actual individual owner. Craigslist is my preferred method. You buy it locally, so you don't pay any shipping.

For example, let's say I'm trying to get Uncharted or Ratchet and Clank. If I go buy them at Best Buy, I'm coughing up 65 snaps. I can easily save $25 by going the Craigslist route. Just place your own ad, that you'll buy Uncharted for $40 cash. Or keep your eyes open for a Craigslist ad where somebody already has Uncharted for sale. Maybe they want $50 for it, but you offer $40 cash.

Buying something for $40 cash is like paying $36.99 at a store. You can't beat it. Tell me if you say Uncharted or R & C at Target or Wal-Mart for $36.99 you wouldn't buy it? No way. You'd buy it in a heart beat. But after tax that's 40 bucks. 40 bucks is my cutoff point for modern day games. I really hate to pay any more than that. Last time I paid more than that was when I imported Motorstorm from Japan back in mid December 2006. Still, I got my full value from that puppy, cause I got to play the hell out of that game like 4 months ahead of everybody else, and then still sold the game for about 80 percent of what I paid for it.

That's the other part of the game. You have to try to get maximum value for the game when selling it. Don't trade your games into GameStop where you get pennies on the dollar, F that noise. Also, putting it on Ebay is ok, but then you have to pay all the darn Ebay fees. Listing fee's, Final value fee's, pay pal fee's, shipping fee's, etc, etc. All that crap adds up. That's why I prefer Craigslist. No fees at all. Just meet somebody at a Starbucks right by your house, and sell them the game and get the cash, and that's that. It's as easy as pie.

The only two PS3 games I've bought recently were Uncharted and R & C, but I sure as heck didn't pay full price. I bought two Xbox 360 games during Toys R US, B2G1F deal in October. Got a total of 3 brand new Xbox 360 games for the price of 2. Then held onto the games and receipt, and waited for R & C and Uncharted to come out. Then exchanged the three 360 games for 2 copies of Uncharted and 1 copy of Ratchet. Then sold the extra copy of Uncharted for $50 on Craigslist. I basically got both Uncharted and Ratchet for 39 something each, after tax and everything. You can't beat that.

Of course, had I just been patient, and was willing to wait 60 days after a game was released, I prolly could have got it used on CL for $40 cash as well, but I was very hyped on Ratchet and Uncharted, and wanted to play them right away.

No we don't buy movies either.

We have a very small collection of movies.

We do buy TV shows, mostly Comedy Central stuff because they have good replay value with friends and family.

We do buy a TON of music though...but its replay value is obvious. I buy a lot of hirez audio at a premium but easily get the usage out of it.

I for the life of me cannot understand why people think Resistance is so good. Subpar graphics and just another FPS...but to each his own.

I do like FPS's, I just prefer them on the PC. If I had the mouse setup for the PS3 I'd probably like them just as much.

Why buy a PS3 when I don't really play games...BD player, media server, etc...

I agree 100%. You can get so much more replay out of some games. I try to buy games on sale or used. I tend to keep them and replay them. It seems easier to replay a game then to rewatch a movie. Some movies are very rewatchable and some games are not replayable. But on average, I get a lot of joy out of most games. I also enjoy a good movie night. With how much the game budget has grown, we are getting a bargain. We are in the golden age of gaming. Enjoy it !!!!!

I agree. I'm mostly a movie watcher as opposed to a gamer (our PS3 is our first console), but the amount of time and enjoyment we've gotten out of our games has made them worth it. $60 is expensive and is not chump change, but compare a movie that costs $20 for 2 hours of entertainment vs the 10s or 100s of hours you can get out of a game.

No we don't buy movies either.


I for the life of me cannot understand why people think Resistance is so good. Subpar graphics and just another FPS...but to each his own.



Resistance gameplay is why people think it's a great game. Gameplay and multiplayer online, pace, story and unique weapons.

The game just comes together great. I have distinct memory of the areas that surprised me, that made me laugh, that made me angry and that just made me shake my head in amazement at the cleverness of the design.

The graphics are very good, not great but with multiple enemies on board, visceral action and multi-mode weapons it was a wonderful experience. I can't wait for Resistance 2.

Most people who don't think the game is great didn't get half way through it, not to say you didn't, and each person has different taste.

Speng.

R & C is the only PS3 game I've paid full price for, unless you count the Rock Band bundle. That game is worth $60, IMO.

Assassin's Creed cost "only" $38 at BB, which is good since I don't like it and Gamestop is currently buying it for $30. I'd really feel stupid if I paid $60 for it.

My son bought Golden Compass for himself, and he enjoys it. That cost $40, which seems reasonable.

For $60, a game is going to have to be DAMN good, and most games aren't. This is why you see many of them selling for even far less that $60. The consumer wins every time in situations like this.

I agree that for the casual gamer, $60 is a lot for a game. I did recently get All-Pro 2K8 from BB online for $10. I also saw it on clearance in Target for $15. The game might not be as good as Madden, but you can't beat a PS3 game for ten bucks.