View Full Version : 16gb Memory Stick on the way for your PSP


bkchurch
01-07-08, 02:14 PM
Well it's certainly not the 30gb HDD I've alway wanted but at least now we'll have an option for a respectable amount of storage for our PSPs giving them the potential to be a pretty nice little all-in-one device. That is if you don't mind paying $300 for a memory stick :rolleyes:

http://kotaku.com/341376/sony-announce-16gb-memory-stick-for-psp

awx
01-07-08, 07:37 PM
Hopefully the 4 GB and 8 GB get a lot cheaper.

Tru-blu
01-08-08, 01:21 AM
Awesome, I will be picking up a few of those come March. Here is a feature that will quickly eat that space.
http://blogs.pcworld.com/staffblog/archives/006194.html
Sony today demonstrated the next level of disc copying. At the company's booth at CES, Sony demonstrated how you could put a Blu-ray Disc movie into a Playstation 3 and copy the film to a Playstation Portable or a Memory Stick. "This way, you can have a portable copy you can take with you," explains David Bishop, president of Sony Pictures Home Entertainment.

I think that is pretty damn great.

bkchurch
01-08-08, 02:21 AM
Awesome, I will be picking up a few of those come March. Here is a feature that will quickly eat that space.
http://blogs.pcworld.com/staffblog/archives/006194.html


I think that is pretty damn great.

... I am without words.

Actually I'm not, can you explain what the benefit of putting a Blu-Ray movie on a PSP to be viewed on it's lower-than-SD rez screen is?

awx
01-08-08, 02:34 AM
Watching the movie on the go? Sort of like a UMD disc but you don't have to buy the same movie multiple times. Just buy the BD. If you need to play on a SD TV, rip to PSP and hook your PSP up to the old TV. Sounds pretty cool if it works.

Tru-blu
01-08-08, 08:55 AM
Actually I'm not, can you explain what the benefit of putting a Blu-Ray movie on a PSP to be viewed on it's lower-than-SD rez screen is?It is surprising you ask given the answer is basically in your first post....the potential to be a pretty nice little all-in-one device.Moreover, the benefit is the same for music and video games as well -- portability. Playing movies, games, or music, in my theatre, gaming room, or listening room is obviously not always going to be a possibility. Having entertainment on the go is terrific and a better option to me than being picky about the "lower-than-SD rez screen" of a well-rounded portable entertainment device.

Watching the movie on the go? Sort of like a UMD disc but you don't have to buy the same movie multiple times. Just buy the BD. If you need to play on a SD TV, rip to PSP and hook your PSP up to the old TV. Sounds pretty cool if it works.This is extremely cool, and damn those UMDs to hell where they belong.

sumavguy
01-08-08, 10:18 AM
Im surprised they are allowing this. I figured there would be a DRM issue with it. I might actually think about picking up a PSP if they do this. Saves the time of ripping your DVDs to a smaller format and making sure they work.

A10Fan
01-08-08, 10:33 AM
Im surprised they are allowing this. I figured there would be a DRM issue with it. I might actually think about picking up a PSP if they do this. Saves the time of ripping your DVDs to a smaller format and making sure they work.

I believe that not every Blu-ray will allow this, only studios that allow it.

A10Fan
01-08-08, 10:34 AM
... I am without words.

Actually I'm not, can you explain what the benefit of putting a Blu-Ray movie on a PSP to be viewed on it's lower-than-SD rez screen is?

What's the benefit to putting music or movies or photos on it? To view it on the go.

sumavguy
01-08-08, 11:12 AM
What's the benefit to putting music or movies or photos on it? To view it on the go.

Also to stop people from complaining that if they buy a DVD they should be able to put it on a portable device for free :p

bkchurch
01-08-08, 11:37 AM
Watching the movie on the go? Sort of like a UMD disc but you don't have to buy the same movie multiple times. Just buy the BD. If you need to play on a SD TV, rip to PSP and hook your PSP up to the old TV. Sounds pretty cool if it works.

Yea, sorry my brain was reaching the point of burn-out last night when I asked this. I was thinking why copy the Blu-Ray when the DVD is gonna look the same at that resolution, it didn't occur to if you own the Blu-Ray you're more than likely not gonna own the DVD. My bad, I'm awake and good to go now though :)

jcc
01-08-08, 12:06 PM
Hopefully, Sony will release a new PSP with no UMD but with a 80GB hard drive so that we can load 50 games or tons of music, videos, movies..etc. We can download everything. That will be the next evolution I think. After that, NAND memory PSPs.

dboss
01-08-08, 12:08 PM
Im surprised they are allowing this. I figured there would be a DRM issue with it. I might actually think about picking up a PSP if they do this. Saves the time of ripping your DVDs to a smaller format and making sure they work.

This is only a guess but since it all takes place through the PS3 I would think there is DRM built into the file created by the PS3 which will only allow the file to be played on a PSP.

This would totally give me a reason to ditch my Archos and get a PSP. This would be a kick a** feature.

bkchurch
01-08-08, 12:32 PM
Hopefully, Sony will release a new PSP with no UMD but with a 80GB hard drive so that we can load 50 games or tons of music, videos, movies..etc. We can download everything. That will be the next evolution I think. After that, NAND memory PSPs.

I hope not, I actually like owning physical copies of my games. I'm all for the 80gb drive though.

sumavguy
01-08-08, 12:50 PM
Hopefully, Sony will release a new PSP with no UMD but with a 80GB hard drive so that we can load 50 games or tons of music, videos, movies..etc. We can download everything. That will be the next evolution I think. After that, NAND memory PSPs.

What happends when the hard drive goes? Especially with something so portable? You wouldn't be able to borrow games and movies from friends since there would be some kind of DRM in them too.

Shape
01-08-08, 01:00 PM
Awesome, I will be picking up a few of those come March. Here is a feature that will quickly eat that space.
http://blogs.pcworld.com/staffblog/archives/006194.html


I think that is pretty damn great.

It isn't actually copying the blu-ray movie to the PSP. It isn't even re-encoding the movie. Certain movies will have a special, low-res copy of the movie on the disc so you can copy it to the PSP.

Kudos to Sony for figuring out how to make people buy not just one but two of their consoles in order to access a feature on some blu-ray discs. :)

If this could be used on a PC, and then copied to any DRM-infected device, I'd be more excited about it. But as it is, rather than buying a honkin' PSP, I'd just find, ahem, other means to re-encode the video to a smaller format for my Creative Zen Vision: M.

jrinck
01-08-08, 02:09 PM
Once these flash chips get down to around a couple of dollars for 4 or 8GB, you'll begin to REALLY see portable entertainment devices take off. The devices will be smaller, lighter, cheaper, burn less power, AND hold thousands of songs and/or more than enough movies/videos.

The fact that the chips burn less power than the spinning hard drive means that w-fi/internet access will be more feasible, which is an added bonus.

Hard-drive based players will really be unnecessary at that point, at least for the masses.

The concept of a full-featured multimedia "PC" in the palm of your hand will be a reality versus the power-hungry and memory limited hack jobs that they are today.

InfernoSoul
01-08-08, 02:21 PM
I believe they plan to have a 32GB card out here in beginning of 2009 if not sooner. Check it out:

http://www.psp-vault.com/Article847.psp

That is pretty amazing for a card that is as big as a quarter. That is quite a bit of data on such a little card. Looking forward to it.

bkchurch
01-08-08, 03:05 PM
I believe they plan to have a 32GB card out here in beginning of 2009 if not sooner. Check it out:

http://www.psp-vault.com/Article847.psp

That is pretty amazing for a card that is as big as a quarter. That is quite a bit of data on such a little card. Looking forward to it.

Hmm, if they could get a 32gb card out for $150 in time to coincide with the PSP2 my portable media needs will be set.

Does anyone know if the PSP supports WMA Lossless?

dboss
01-08-08, 04:02 PM
I think this is also confirmation that the PS3 will support profile 2.0 for BD as this feature is a BD Live feature for profile 2.0.

bkchurch
01-08-08, 04:34 PM
I think this is also confirmation that the PS3 will support profile 2.0 for BD as this feature is a BD Live feature for profile 2.0.

Since the PS3 can get updated firmware and has access to the internet I wouldn't worry about the PS3 ever being behind the times in terms of BD profile.

plasmalover
01-08-08, 06:51 PM
Wow, I would love to pick one up for my PSP2000 when it comes out, hopefully it won't be as much as a new PSP! The increased in convergence between the PS3 and PSP is getting better and better everyday. Also, it seems that Sony is paving the road for an NAND based PSP2 which will require NO physical media and can download everything into it.

rahimlee54
01-08-08, 07:03 PM
I cant even fill up a 2 gig card and you guys are already pushing for 32 gigs what do you put on the things? I have a movie up there and still have room to spare :)

bkchurch
01-08-08, 07:32 PM
I cant even fill up a 2 gig card and you guys are already pushing for 32 gigs what do you put on the things? I have a movie up there and still have room to spare :)

Well I'd personally love to be able to fit my entire music collection on my PSP and ditch my MP3 player and have some room left over to carry a few movies with me at all times.

Mrrsteelers
01-08-08, 07:39 PM
I cant even fill up a 2 gig card and you guys are already pushing for 32 gigs what do you put on the things? I have a movie up there and still have room to spare :)

I encode my movies at as high a bit rate as I can, so I can use them for Psp but they still look decent on a PC or TV. So some of them go over 2 Gb.

bkchurch
01-08-08, 07:47 PM
Seriously, anyone know if the PSP plays WMA Lossless? I know it plays WMA but I dunno if it plays lossless. If it doesn't I'm gonna have to start re-encoding music.

Mrrsteelers
01-08-08, 08:07 PM
Seriously, anyone know if the PSP plays WMA Lossless? I know it plays WMA but I dunno if it plays lossless. If it doesn't I'm gonna have to start re-encoding music.

I didn't see WMA lossless for Psp or PS3 listed. (I only checked Wikipedia though)

I thought I would use my Psp for music too, but it's just too big for me. It won't fit in my pocket so I can't wear it while I work. I also don't want all the extra wear and chance for damage. (I'm a drywaller and painter, it would get trashed) So as cool as the Psp is, It's nice to keep some sort of MP3 player handy.

bkchurch
01-08-08, 08:07 PM
I didn't see WMA lossless for Psp or PS3 listed. (I only checked Wikipedia though)

I thought I would use my Psp for music too, but it's just too big for me. It won't fit in my pocket so I can't wear it while I work. I also don't want all the extra wear and chance for damage. (I'm a drywaller and painter, it would get trashed) So as cool as the Psp is, It's nice to keep some sort of MP3 player handy.

True enough, might just pick up a Zune as I originally planned.

Shape
01-08-08, 08:19 PM
Seriously, anyone know if the PSP plays WMA Lossless? I know it plays WMA but I dunno if it plays lossless. If it doesn't I'm gonna have to start re-encoding music.

Windows Media Player will automatically re-encode to a lower bit rate when you sync with any device.

bkchurch
01-08-08, 08:44 PM
Windows Media Player will automatically re-encode to a lower bit rate when you sync with any device.

Well that's pretty stupid.

Shape
01-08-08, 09:10 PM
Well that's pretty stupid.

Actually, it is smart.

Windows Media Player will automatically re-encode to a lower bit rate when you sync with any device, if you choose to do so. This is because there are very few players that can play lossless. Besides, it tends to eat battery life faster than lower bit rates.

So you can choose a WMA lossy bitrate anywhere from 64k up to something like 248k for syncing to your memory stick. That way, you keep your WMA lossless on your computer, but you can still sync with devices that can't handle lossless.

bkchurch
01-08-08, 09:55 PM
Actually, it is smart.

Windows Media Player will automatically re-encode to a lower bit rate when you sync with any device, if you choose to do so. This is because there are very few players that can play lossless. Besides, it tends to eat battery life faster than lower bit rates.

So you can choose a WMA lossy bitrate anywhere from 64k up to something like 248k for syncing to your memory stick. That way, you keep your WMA lossless on your computer, but you can still sync with devices that can't handle lossless.

Yea but I'd prefer to have devices that support Lossless and have Windows Media Player not lower the bit-rate and hurt my sound quality. Then again I suppose most PMPs aren't doing the most spectacular job playing audio in the first place so I'm just gonna stop bitching.

Scotty L
01-08-08, 10:17 PM
This is because there are very few players that can play lossless. Besides, it tends to eat battery life faster than lower bit rates.

So you can choose a WMA lossy bitrate anywhere from 64k up to something like 248k for syncing to your memory stick. That way, you keep your WMA lossless on your computer, but you can still sync with devices that can't handle lossless.

Regardless it should give you the option. Re-encoding to a lossy version pretty much defeats the purpose of lossless.

If my 2003 Alpine head unit can play WMA lossless it shouldn't be an issue with modern devices 5 years later. I know; we're the 1% that actually cares about this but it drives us nuts. :p

bkchurch
01-08-08, 10:23 PM
Regardless it should give you the option. Re-encoding to a lossy version pretty much defeats the purpose of lossless.

If my 2003 Alpine head unit can play WMA lossless it shouldn't be an issue with modern devices 5 years later. I know; we're the 1% that actually cares about this but it drives us nuts. :p

QFT

Shape
01-08-08, 11:27 PM
Regardless it should give you the option. Re-encoding to a lossy version pretty much defeats the purpose of lossless.


It does give you the option. You can sync lossless if you want.

My car is so noisy it wouldn't matter if I used 128k vs lossless. :)

bkchurch
01-08-08, 11:32 PM
It does give you the option. You can sync lossless if you want.

My car is so noisy it wouldn't matter if I used 128k vs lossless. :)

O ok cool, the way you said it it sounded like it re-encodes to lossy regardless. That's a relief. Anyway I guess this brings me back to my original question: Does the PSP play WMA Lossless?

Also how's music sound on the PSP with a good pair of earbuds or headphones? I know the sound quality on the Zune, Toshiba Gigabeat, and Creative Zen Vision:M are all quite impressive. Can the PSP match up?