i am going to rant here. Now, I won't be mentioning HD-DVD and Blu-Ray in the same post, so I don't think I will be deleted or locked. I just read this from the Blu-Ray press conference today:

"Additionally, users will be able to pop in a Blu-ray movie on their PS3 and then watch it on a PSP over Wi-Fi anywhere in the world, a feature that Sony today announced is slated to be available by the end of 2008."

Sony-Are you kidding me?!? I mean, seriously- are you idiots kidding me?!?

So- let me get this straight- I can pop a 50GB 1080P LOSSLESS AUDIO MOVIE DISK- the same disk you have been selling as HAVING THE BEST PICTURE AND SOUND ever- put it in to my PS3 gaming machine, leave it on, and watch it on a PSP over a wifi network?

Wow- and not my own wifi network- but the one anywhere in the world? Man oh man! I'm breaking in to Best Buy TONIGHT!

You know, I am so sick of useless, stupid add-on features that skirt around the general issue of managed copy I am getting a headache. i just read about this "feature" and thought to myself, "Someone actually thinks this will sell Blu-Ray disks and PSPs. The ability to leave a disk in a PS3, leave it on, running, go away somewhere that has open wifi, and watch a freaking state of the art Blu-Ray on a PSP's piss-ant screen." :mad:

Why the heck do they think this matters to anyone? "Oh- hey Joe- betcha' can't do this with your Nintendo DS- see this- the same Spiderman 3 movie we watched on the flight/portable dvd player/netflix/10,000 times at home/through someone's else's van back window for an hour of the roadtrip- anyway- I can stream it through the internet to my PSP because I left it in my PS3 for just this moment of novelty. And yeah- it still looks like its a movie on my PSP. It still looks like crap."

Wait a minute- I missed something- oh wait- this is not out yet. It will be out by the end of 2008. So that means that instead of devoting development time and resources to getting managed copy to work- that whole media server thing that everyone would like- they are going to continue to work on it.

I just want to say that if I ever find myself thinking that i wish I had a PSP, a bluray disk I want to watch stuck in a PS3 I left on at home, and an open wi-fi network, and I decide I want to watch that movie, I will jump in front of a bus.

Seriously Sony, spend time and development resources on getting managed copy to work. It is your only defense against a revenue stream being lost to downloaded movies. And these downloaded movies will give the media server Kaliedescape convenience consumers want.

/end rant

makes me think of David Lynch talking about watching movies on the iPhone
http://link.brightcove.com/services/link/bcpid1214128517/bctid1365439049
:p

Actually, most are reporting this feature as downloading directly to the PSP to watch the movie on the go

PS3->PSP Blu-ray download (http://gizmodo.com/341938/sony-blu+ray+to+psp-movie-transfer-gets-official)

This is an awesome feature: Buy the blu-ray, get the portable on-the-go version for free: no extra cost, no conversion hassle.

Your rant is a bit crazy.

makes me think of David Lynch talking about watching movies on the iPhone
http://link.brightcove.com/services/link/bcpid1214128517/bctid1365439049
:p

That is hilarious! :p

Actually, most are reporting this feature as downloading directly to the PSP to watch the movie on the go

PS3->PSP Blu-ray download (http://gizmodo.com/341938/sony-blu+ray+to+psp-movie-transfer-gets-official)

This is an awesome feature: Buy the blu-ray, get the portable on-the-go version for free: no extra cost, no conversion hassle.

Your rant is a bit crazy.

Your point is not in my rant. My rant is about the part that i quoted- not the copy you can take with you. Did you read my post?

You're kidding right? It's not streaming from what I read.

Sony today demonstrated the next level of disc copying. At the company's booth at CES, Sony demonstrated how you could put a Blu-ray Disc movie into a Playstation 3 and copy the film to a Playstation Portable or a Memory Stick. "This way, you can have a portable copy you can take with you," explains David Bishop, president of Sony Pictures Home Entertainment.

It's another added feature for people who have a PSP and own a PS3. No reason to rant about it :/

http://www.tomshardware.com/2008/01/07/blu_ray_movies_to_be_playable_on_psp_by_year_s_end/

Bottom of this article- that's what I am ranting about

Your point is not in my rant. My rant is about the part that i quoted- not the copy you can take with you. Did you read my post?

So you are against people having options to watch their content on the go? I could see if it was ONLY through the wi-fi streaming, but since you get both then what's the harm. The PSP already does this with games and other files on the PS3... it's not going to take resources away from anything. Your rant is still crazy.

Why the heck do they think this matters to anyone?
/end rant

Hmm.. matters to me. Do I count as anyone?

So you are against people having options to watch their content on the go? I could see if it was ONLY through the wi-fi streaming, but since you get both then what's the harm. The PSP already does this with games and other files on the PS3... it's not going to take resources away from anything. Your rant is still crazy.

It's a stupid feature. My point is that Sony continuously cooks up things like this while ignoring the "biggies"- things like managed copy. I was mad to hear nothing about managed copy announced at their press address.

Streaming a bluray over a wifi network to a psp when you cannot do the same with a dvd is a proprietary, weird, targeted feture intended to sell more Blurays and PSPs. But they would sell more Blurays if they said, "Managed copy will be in the market by the end of this year."

My rant is not crazy You're crazy.

I think he's ranting about Sony coming up with yet another useless feature addition instead of focusing on...?, or something like that, most definitely a much better idea OP would have for PS3/PSP. I'm not really sure.

Yes Sony can add way more features, including many simple ones, to the PS3. But as long as this is a free addition within a firmware upgrade, it's not a big deal for such a rant. If you dont care about not using it, then dont. I'm sure some people would use it, especially if it is a bluray-to-psp file conversion.

The PS3 does not need to be running. The PSP can turn in on and off via wifi. You can already tap your PS3 with the PSP remote play and view video files via your PS3's hard drive or an external.

Blu Ray playback would be one more way to enjoy your movie library, PS3 (some games also support remote play) and PSP.

This rant is stupid.

Actually, it's a continuation of features meant to turn the PSP into a portable extension of the PS3. You can use the PSP to turn on and off your PS3 over WiFi, stream PS1 games, even certain PS3 games, and now Blu-Ray movies. It's not about it being an HD movie on your PSP, but more about being a movie period. No more need to buy special UMD movies that you'll only use on your PSP, you can now buy your movie on Blu-Ray and then you can watch that movie on your PS3 in HD, or on your PSP wherever you happen to be.

Basically, the PS3 is streaming the low-res video over the internet to your PSP, and the PSP is sending button-commands back. It's actually a pretty cool idea.

Managed Copy- the ability to copy Bluray disks to a NAS connected to your PS3 so you don't have to fiddle with and load disks every time you want to watch a movie. What this does for DVDs:

www.kaliedescape.com

But for Blurays. this is what they should be focusing on- not weird useless features like being able to stream a bluray to a psp over a wifi network.

It's a stupid feature. My point is that Sony continuously cooks up things like this while ignoring the "biggies"- things like managed copy. I was mad to hear nothing about managed copy announced at their press address.

Streaming a bluray over a wifi network to a psp when you cannot do the same with a dvd is a proprietary, weird, targeted feture intended to sell more Blurays and PSPs. But they would sell more Blurays if they said, "Managed copy will be in the market by the end of this year."

My rant is not crazy You're crazy.

THIS IS A STANDARD FEATURE OF PS3/PSP CONNECTIVITY. It already exists for video files, music... hell, you can technically play PS3 games on your PSP with this feature (although it won't really work well). All this is doing is Sony activating it for BD movies as well. This can't be taking resources away from anything as it is already implemented.

I know it appears as some "Blu-ray" thing to you, but it's really just a PS3/PSP feature. And since the PS3 plays Blu-ray discs, that will apply to the PSP as well. Do you understand the difference? NOTHING IS WASTED. Hell, it's probably the PSP team that works on this stuff anyway, not even the PS3 team and especially not the Blu-ray division.

Ok whatever. I just think that managed copy would be amazing if they would implement it like they promised at CES the last two years. If consumers don't demand it, then it will never come.

And let me be clear by what I mean when I say managed copy- you put a bluray in to your ps3, and you copy it to your NAS, network, sony server, or something. The disk goes back in to the case, does not get scratched, and it is now more accessible than it was before.

If this is streaming media to the PSP, this is quite possibly one of the dumbest features ever...period!

If, as someone suggested earlier, it allows getting a managed copy on to the PSP (and does not require the disc to be running in the PS3), it might find some use for those with long commutes. Although, why one can't use a regular DVD rip etc. for the puny PSP screen is anybody's guess.

Knowing Sony they will somehow screw up the whole managed copy thing anyway, spending more effort in developing ways to prevent the copy leaking to other PSPs. :p

I just want to say that if I ever find myself thinking that i wish I had a PSP, a bluray disk I want to watch stuck in a PS3 I left on at home, and an open wi-fi network, and I decide I want to watch that movie, I will jump in front of a bus.

To be honest, it kind of sounds like you're thinking of jumping in front of a bus regardless. But assuming you don't (HD-DVD is not worth dying for,) I highly suggest that you do not use that feature when you go Blu-ray (and you will eventually go Blu-ray.)

If it comforts you any, I myself have no plans to ever buy a PSP, and therefore we'll both not be taking advantage of that feature... together.

Ok whatever. I just think that managed copy would be amazing if they would implement it like they promised at CES the last two years. If consumers don't demand it, then it will never come.

And let me be clear by what I mean when I say managed copy- you put a bluray in to your ps3, and you copy it to your NAS, network, sony server, or something. The disk goes back in to the case, does not get scratched, and it is now more accessible than it was before.
Q: To Blu-ray insiders, is there any plan for BDA to remove the region coding and work on managed copy ?

A: Studios always have the option to release titles without region coding, and many do. You should make your concerns known to them; the format will continue to support region coding for those studios who wish to use it.

Managed copy comes from AACS, not the BDA, so the BDA can't do anything to speed up its availability.

link (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showpost.php?p=12685225&postcount=3270)

This is a great feature for people living in japan. who are sitting a long time in the train.

they do not always have time watch a movie at home because of work. and now they can simply copy the movie to their psp and watch it in the train.

when i lived in japan i had to watch movies the whole time on my notebook when i was in the train. that was very uncomfortable.

so this new option would be a killer deal for me.

now that i live in the netherlands it is not useful for me. but i do not think about myself. i know that their are people which this is option is very useful for.

the world is not just you and me. what is worthless to me or you , could be a treasure for somebody else.

To be honest, it kind of sounds like you're thinking of jumping in front of a bus regardless. But assuming you don't (HD-DVD is not worth dying for,) I highly suggest that you do not use that feature when you go Blu-ray (and you will eventually go Blu-ray.)

If it comforts you any, I myself have no plans to ever buy a PSP, and therefore we'll both not be taking advantage of that feature... together.

Oh, but Timberlake- think of sweet managed copy! I will go bluray happily- but I want managed copy! :D

Ok whatever. I just think that managed copy would be amazing if they would implement it like they promised at CES the last two years. If consumers don't demand it, then it will never come.

And let me be clear by what I mean when I say managed copy- you put a bluray in to your ps3, and you copy it to your NAS, network, sony server, or something. The disk goes back in to the case, does not get scratched, and it is now more accessible than it was before.

Yes, managed copy would be cool. But it has absolutely nothing to do with this feature. Zero. This is just Sony leveraging some PS3/PSP synergy.

If this is streaming media to the PSP, this is quite possibly one of the dumbest features ever...period!

If, as someone suggested earlier, it allows getting a managed copy on to the PSP (and does not require the disc to be running in the PS3), it might find some use for those with long commutes. Although, why one can't use a regular DVD rip etc. for the puny PSP screen is anybody's guess.



Streaming things (anything, really) is just a standard PS3/PSP perk. A similar but completely separate feature of downloading a PSP version of the blu-ray movie *directly* to the PSP was also announced (I linked to it above). This is good because I don't have to rip it myself from the Blu-ray or rip from a separate DVD version (which you seem to want to do for some reason).

With these PS3/PSP features I just buy one disc: the blu-ray, and I'm covered for both home and portable viewing. I don't understand how this is anything but cool for PS3/PSP owners.

This is a great feature for people living in japan. who are sitting a long time in the train.

they do not always have time watch a movie at home because of work. and now they can simply copy the movie to their psp and watch it in the train.

when i lived in japan i had to watch movies the whole time on my notebook when i was in the train. that was very uncomfortable.

so this new option would be a killer deal for me.

now that i live in the netherlands it is not useful for me. but i do not think about myself. i know that their are people which this is option is very useful for.

the world is not just you and me. what is worthless to me or you , could be a treasure for somebody else.

but I am not. talking about copying. i am talking about streaming.

Very cool. Count me in for thinking this is awesome! Thanks Sony!

I'm seriously considering getting a PSP for this addition alone...

Certain terms I get stuck with classes spread hours apart and living off campus, it makes zero sense to waste gas and time to head home.

Having portable entertainment sounds like a wonderful way to waste my time. I mean what else is there to do? Browse myspace or study? Bah... ;)


And FYI, if you were even going to stream a movie OR game from your PS3, you can turn on your PS3 remotely via a wifi network connection on your PSP. THEN you load your game or movie.

The PS3 only needs to be in standby mode, not ON.

Sony hate is bad.

What is bad about free? You can also watch TV shows. There is also a video out on the new version of the PSP this may not make it high def but it might make waiting and traveling less painful.

Now you can slap a disc in the PS3 and hand the PSP to your kid so he can go sit in the corner somewhere watching Cars while you watch sports.

This is much better than the half-baked UMD format. Now you only have to buy the movie once, on Blu-Ray disc, rather than buy it on DVD and then on UMD.

I'm all for it, even though I own neither a PS3 nor a PSP.

Remote play for movies and psone games has been a feature of PSP's for a looong time. It only makes sense that it would be extended to blu ray movies.

I really dont understand all the critism over this feature.

This is a great feature for people living in japan. who are sitting a long time in the train.

they do not always have time watch a movie at home because of work. and now they can simply copy the movie to their psp and watch it in the train.
If you watched a movie on your psp on the bus around here you'd probably be shot. Well at least definitely targeted by some hustler as a rube.

Well Japan is a much safer country than the United States, the Japanese really can sit on the bus and watch a movie on their PSPs and nothing will happen to them.

Wow, a rant about an awesome benefit to people who own a PSP, enabeling MORE special features to use on your player. You need medical help buddy.

News Flash!!

Hating sony is so 2007.

hmmm...i might actually buy a psp...thats pretty cool.

Thanks for the rant!

Same here great sales pitch with your rant. Combined with the ability to make free internet calls thru Skype. even better!

Wow, a rant about an awesome benefit to people who own a PSP, enabeling MORE special features to use on your player. You need medical help buddy.

News Flash!!

Hating sony is so 2007.


You should hear it over here in the Northwest. Lot of MS love over here that and hating Sony seem to go hand in hand.

You should hear it over here in the Northwest. Lot of MS love over here that and hating Sony seem to go hand in hand.

The Pacific Northwest is Microsoft's turf. Especially in the Seattle metro area, because MS basically made that city. Before there was MS, Seattle was a run-down low-income dirty little port town. Seattle was basically some ports and the Boeing Company, and at that time Boeing was one of a multitude of aerospace and defense firms and nowhere near the largest. After there was MS, Seattle is now a center of software development, the home of Amazon.com, and the Bellevue/Redmond corridor is one of America's richest communities.

MS has given Seattle everything. It's not hard to imagine why the people of Seattle are so grateful for MS for choosing to exist there.

That said, while Xbox 360 naturally sells well here, Blu-ray disc also sells quite well. The people of Seattle are smart enough to know the difference between 30GB and 50GB and they will choose the technically superior format based on real technical knowledge.

I think we should all try to get along in 2008