http://www.highdefdigest.com/news/show/New_Line/Industry_Trends/New_Line_Details_Transition_to_Blu-ray/1351

http://www.highdefdigest.com/news/show/New_Line/Industry_Trends/New_Line_Details_Transition_to_Blu-ray/1351

Frankly, they NEVER supported HD DVD. How many TOTAL titles did they ever release? ONE!!!! LOL. IMO, their '08 output on BR will be disappointing as well.

Yeah Pan's Labryinth was the last HD DVD title. Now bring on Lord of the Rings baby...

http://www.highdefdigest.com/news/show/New_Line/Industry_Trends/New_Line_Details_Transition_to_Blu-ray/1351

After May or right now, I am sure it wouldn't make much of a difference either way. They either delayed their new releases due to some dubious region-coding reasons, or withheld the truly desirable IPs like LoTR.

Buhbye, New Line.

Anybody know if the video encode of Pan's the same on the HD DVD and BR versions?

They only released one HD DVD, which was Pan's Labryinth. The only reason they did was because it was a catalog title, and they only would release day and date titles on Blu-Ray since they support region coding. This preference(region code) for Blu-Ray, the fact Warner dropped HD DVD, and they probably weren't binded to any contract, made it easier for them to immediately drop HD DVD. At least they released one awesome title on HD DVD, but we all await LOTR on Blu-Ray now.

Now, let's see them release some catalog titles.

And I don't just mean the obvious LOTR (everybody wants that, and they know it). Hopefully some or all of the following titles are in the works:

Boogie Nights
Magnolia
Se7en
The Player
Dumb and Dumber (original cut, please)
Pleasantville
The Sweet Hereafter (am I getting my hopes up too much for that one?)

New Line's Blu-Ray releases have all been top-notch (including Rush Hour 3, go figure)...I am extremely excited that LOTR is in their Hidef team's hands.

I welcome them with open arms.

Now, let's see them release some catalog titles.

And I don't just mean the obvious LOTR (everybody wants that, and they know it). Hopefully some or all of the following titles are in the works:

Boogie Nights
Magnolia
Se7en
The Player
Dumb and Dumber (original cut, please)
Pleasantville
The Sweet Hereafter (am I getting my hopes up too much for that one?)

F*CK yes, love me some PTA, wouldn't mind the others either.

FWIW - I think the Hobbit is coming out in 2010 (the first of two movies), hopefully we will get LotR long before that.

Now, let's see them release some catalog titles.

And I don't just mean the obvious LOTR (everybody wants that, and they know it). Hopefully some or all of the following titles are in the works:

Boogie Nights
Magnolia
Se7en
The Player
Dumb and Dumber (original cut, please)
Pleasantville
The Sweet Hereafter (am I getting my hopes up too much for that one?)

Definitely LOTR...

Se7ven, Magnolia and the first Blade for me. There are others I can't think of right now.

Frankly, they NEVER supported HD DVD. How many TOTAL titles did they ever release? ONE!!!! LOL. IMO, their '08 output on BR will be disappointing as well.

Why the sour grapes?

Why the sour grapes?

Because he owns a soon to be orphaned format?

Definitely LOTR...

Se7ven, Magnolia and the first Blade for me. There are others I can't think of right now.

Yes Blade trilogy please. 3rd sucked but first 2 ruled.

Austin Powers 1+2 also please.

Now, let's see them release some catalog titles.

And I don't just mean the obvious LOTR (everybody wants that, and they know it). Hopefully some or all of the following titles are in the works:

Boogie Nights
Magnolia
Se7en
The Player
Dumb and Dumber (original cut, please)
Pleasantville
The Sweet Hereafter (am I getting my hopes up too much for that one?)

Boogie Nights...Heather Graham...in HD.....Yummm......

Why do we have so many threads on stuff we already know. We've known from the past two days that New Line has dropped HD DVD for Blu Ray. Is this thread necessary?

TMNT2: The Secret of the Ooze.

Ninja rap, DTS-HD MA.

Se7en, Blade Trilogy, Mortal Kombat and of course LOTR Trilogy!

Why do we have so many threads on stuff we already know. We've known from the past two days that New Line has dropped HD DVD for Blu Ray. Is this thread necessary?

I specifically started this to emphasize the recent developments regarding the issue...specifically the fact that, unlike Warner, this was effective NOW (not May), and there was confirmation that their released title WOULD BE DISCONTINUED and all future titles Blu-ray exclusive.

I'm personally very excited about SE7EN, Magnolia, the Austin Powers Trilogy, and the extended editions of the LOTR trilogy.

We pretty much have one format now. Even though I bought about 70 HD DVD movies and about 30 BD movies I am quite happy because now every studio may focus on releasing more catalog titles and HD optical has a better chance of going mainstream. I hope more combo players may be released, even if they label them as BD players, backwards compatible with HD DVD (like I've heard mentioned on these forums before). Pioneer still has a LD/DVD combo player and you can click here (http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/PUSA/Products/HomeEntertainment/Blu-rayDisc+DVD/DVD+LDPlayers/ci.DVL-919.Kuro) to see it.

Because he owns a soon to be orphaned format?

Frankly we will all, it'll just take longer with BR.

I wonder how difficult it will be to find Pan's Labryinth on HD DVD?

I'm personally very excited about SE7EN, Magnolia, the Austin Powers Trilogy, and the extended editions of the LOTR trilogy.

Those are nice titles, how long before they put them out you think?

I wonder how difficult it will be to find Pan's Labryinth on HD DVD?

I almost bought this a couple of days ago, but the Warner announcement changed my decision. I will order the BD version soon.

I wonder how difficult it will be to find Pan's Labryinth on HD DVD?

not difficult. BB had a bunch when I picked up Zodiac and 3:10 to Yuma today.

Nice! Lord Of The Rings Trilogy, in high-definition only on Blu-Ray Disc.

Nice! Lord Of The Rings Trilogy, in high-definition only on Blu-Ray Disc.

Awesome!

Is Fight Club New Line also?

Awesome!

Is Fight Club New Line also?

Fox



But staying on topic. Bring on Dumb and Dumber! :)

Nice! Lord Of The Rings Trilogy, in high-definition only on Blu-Ray Disc.

Let's just hope they do it right. Just because it comes on Blu-Ray doesn't automatically mean it's going to be pristine audio and video quality.

Let's just hope they do it right. Just because it comes on Blu-Ray doesn't automatically mean it's going to be pristine audio and video quality.
New Line's transfers of Hairspray, Rush Hour 3, and Pan's Labyrinth on Blu-Ray have been stellar.

Let's just hope they do it right. Just because it comes on Blu-Ray doesn't automatically mean it's going to be pristine audio and video quality.Few things in life are guaranteed but considering how well New Line did in terms of AV quality with Hairspray (http://bluray.highdefdigest.com/994/hairspray2007.html), Pan's Labyrinth (http://bluray.highdefdigest.com/1181/panslabyrinth.html), and Rush Hour 3 (http://bluray.highdefdigest.com/1156/rushhour3.html) there is reason to be optimistic they would do well with LOTR.

Dumb and Dumber should be retitled Sony and Toshiba. Looks like the lesser dummy won, kind of like K-Fed is a slightly better parent than BS. :D

Thanks for the links. Looks like there's little incentive to buy Pan's on Blu-Ray if you're an HD DVD guy.

'Pan's Labyrinth' arrives on Blu-ray with a 1080p/VC-1 transfer (identical to the HD DVD) that dazzles the eye as effortlessly as the film haunts the imagination.

It will be interesting to see if they now take advantage of BD's higher bitrate and storage capacity on future releases. Probably won't make a big difference, though.

I would love to get some of the Nightmare on Elm Street movies too.

HD-DVD fans am cry :-(

Guess my Pan's Labyrinth HD DVD is a little piece of history... just got finished watching it in fact. Awesome transfer and audio and one of my favorite films from last year.

The funny thing too is they had web-enabled features for their one and only HD DVD.

Guess my Pan's Labyrinth HD DVD is a little piece of history... just got finished watching it in fact. Awesome transfer and audio and one of my favorite films from last year.

The funny thing too is they had web-enabled features for their one and only HD DVD.

Picked it up yesterday too. The price was good at Wal-Mart. Awesome movie, awesome transfer.

It'll be a collector's item for sure.

It will be interesting to see if they now take advantage of BD's higher bitrate and storage capacity on future releases. Probably won't make a big difference, though.

See Shoot 'Em Up. Very nice disc.

http://www.highdefdigest.com/news/show/New_Line/Industry_Trends/New_Line_Details_Transition_to_Blu-ray/1351

The rate of bad news for HDDVD is stunning. If it continues, I can't see HDDVD surviving past February much less 2008.

Boogie Nights...Heather Graham...in HD.....Yummm......

Boogie Nights is awesome. Heather Graham naked in Full HD.:p

Dumb and Dumber should be retitled Sony and Toshiba. Looks like the lesser dummy won, kind of like K-Fed is a slightly better parent than BS. :D

It should be Microsoft and Toshiba. Microsoft is dumb and Toshiba is dumber for trusting them. ;)

HD-DVD fans am cry :-(

What the **** is with this ****. Most of us here have both formats why are there so many *******s happy with someone elses discomfort.

Alright, I need Fincher in high-def, Se7en and Fight Club especially. New Line and Fox - get chopping. Oh, Sony, Panic Room please. :)

What the **** is with this ****. Most of us here have both formats why are there so many *******s happy with someone elses discomfort.

Correction, most of us owned both formats, now we just own BluRay and a dead format.

Come on Dark City!

Hopefully this ensures high bitrate AVC with 7.1 LPCM for the Extended Editions on BD50. :D

PL on HD DVD has more features than PL on Blu-ray. A shame on HD DVD optimized Studios to back Blu-ray exclusively.

Correction, most of us owned both formats, now we just own BluRay and a dead format.

I still own and will continue to own the hddvds that I have allready purchased, but the point of my post was why are people happy that others are upset that they lost the competion and possibly the deals that came along with it.

Correction, most of us owned both formats, now we just own BluRay and a dead format.

With all due respect, get over it already. Warner can pull a stunt like it did and render it "dead" in the eyes of many, but I still own HD DVD and it works just as well today as it did a week ago. Likewise, the HD DVD version of Pan's Labyrinth looks exactly as good as the Blu Ray version.

I wish people would try to keep some perspective here.

The rate of bad news for HDDVD is stunning. If it continues, I can't see HDDVD surviving past February much less 2008.

Yeah - I can't believe how badly things are going. Just last week things were looking pretty good for HD DVD - still behind BD of course but it seemed like they had a good following and solid support.

Then the Warner announcement hit and everything went instantly to hell. Now there's the New Line news, a report that Paramount may bail, a report 20+ HD DVD supporting companies are planning exits, and no real word of Microsoft offering additional support.

I'd *love* it if they survived - it always seemed to be a more refined product to me than BD... but I have to admit I'm already trading in some of my Warner HDs for the BD versions :(.

I just watched my Blu-ray copy of Pan's Labyrinth on Saturday, and I really see nothing to complain about. Then again, I'm more concerned about the actual movie presentation than extras, but the PQ and SQ were fine, and the movie itself, which I hadn't seen before, was quite excellent.

The only thing that hit me impression-wise was a curious sense of subdued grain. The movie is very dark almost from start to finish, and I don't remember noticing any grain whatsoever during my viewing. I'll have to check the disc again to confirm, but, if I were a betting man, based on a single viewing, I'd hazard a guess and say noise reduction was applied to the film.

Are all the movies mentioned in this thread actually being released (release date?) or is it all just speculation?

How many movies did they release? 3 :cool:

Are all the movies mentioned in this thread actually being released (release date?) or is it all just speculation?

Hairspray, Pan's Labyrinth, and Rush Hour 3 are all on the shelves right this moment for Blu-ray.

Pan's Labyrinth is available while supplies last on HD DVD.

How many movies did they release? 3 :cool:By the number of movies released in 2007 New Line was pretty limited on Blu-ray but they did start releasing movies in November so that isn't much of a surprise. I do notice that though New Line only released a single title on HD DVD that you did list them in your signature of HD DVD supporting studios so though very small in terms of support they were noticed.

I can't really see any new features added to the Extended edtions of the LOTR trilogy. The last I read, the dispute between New Line and Peter Jackson had not been settled. We will, in all likelyhood get the same set of extended features on BD. I thought the original source of the dispute was DVD royalties - I wonder if there won't be another lawsuit brought on by Peter Jackson should LOTR find its way to a release?

I can't really see any new features added to the Extended edtions of the LOTR trilogy. The last I read, the dispute between New Line and Peter Jackson had not been settled. We will, in all likelyhood get the same set of extended features on BD. I thought the original source of the dispute was DVD royalties - I wonder if there won't be another lawsuit brought on by Peter Jackson should LOTR find its way to a release?

Mr Jackson(If your nasty) and New Line have kissed and made up.

http://www.theonering.net/torwp/2007/12/18/28150-peter-jackson-and-new-line-cinema-join-with-mgm-to-produce-%E2%80%9Cthe-hobbit%E2%80%9D/

The likelihood that he will have alot of time to dedicate to an HDM release is probably more likely to be what may hold up these being released. Since the Hobbit movies are now full steam ahead they may wait until those are complete before looking into releasing the trilogy. There is a HD version out there as we know since they have been shown on TNT in cropped HD.

I'd be happy with the extended editions to be released with no frills on one 50 blu disk. They can then come back after the Hobbits and release a gift set with all the extras you can stand and my money again for that version(Hopefully something like the Potter set).

You'd think that Pan's Labyrinth this might just be New Line's biggest selling HD-DVD ever. Why? Well if I were a gloating BR fan boy, I might actually want a piece of history, and what else would you call the last HD-DVD title released from each studio? (sorry they're too light to be paperweights.)

The likelihood that he will have alot of time to dedicate to an HDM release is probably more likely to be what may hold up these being released. Since the Hobbit movies are now full steam ahead they may wait until those are complete before looking into releasing the trilogy. There is a HD version out there as we know since they have been shown on TNT in cropped HD.

HD Transfer is one thing, special features is quite another. I don't think anyone would have a very easy time convincing P. Jackson that he shouldn't go back to the print and touch up the special effects. Granted NL would sell a stack of discs even if all they did was do an HD transfer of the extended editions and slap the SD "special features" on to it. I would have to see if the transfer was any good before I opened up my wallet.

You'd think that Pan's Labyrinth this might just be New Line's biggest selling HD-DVD ever.

Yep.

Why?

It's the only HD DVD from them.

You'd think that Pan's Labyrinth this might just be New Line's biggest selling HD-DVD ever. Why? Well if I were a gloating BR fan boy, I might actually want a piece of history, and what else would you call the last HD-DVD title released from each studio? (sorry they're too light to be paperweights.)



HD Transfer is one thing, special features is quite another. I don't think anyone would have a very easy time convincing P. Jackson that he shouldn't go back to the print and touch up the special effects. Granted NL would sell a stack of discs even if all they did was do an HD transfer of the extended editions and slap the SD "special features" on to it. I would have to see if the transfer was any good before I opened up my wallet.

Plus, Ive talked about this in another thread, but he supposedly wants to make even longer EEs...

Hopefully this ensures high bitrate AVC with 7.1 LPCM for the Extended Editions on BD50. :D

A high bitrate VC1/AVC + DTS-MA/Dolby TrueHD 7.1
They can save some space and bandwdith by using DTS-Ma and Dolby TrueHD and add some 1.1 content.
Can't wait for LOTR on Blu-ray Disc.

A high bitrate VC1/AVC + DTS-MA/Dolby TrueHD 7.1
They can save some space and bandwdith by using DTS-Ma and Dolby TrueHD and add some 1.1 content.
Can't wait for LOTR on Blu-ray Disc.
When it comes to saving bandwidth, according to our resident Microsoft insider Amir Majidimehr, DTS-MA maintains a lower peak bandwidth usage than Dolby TrueHD.

Assuming we see enough players hit the market that support DTS-MA, given what we've heard from the various insiders, I have come to the conclusion that it is a superior lossless implementation over Dolby TrueHD. The whole idea behind using lossless compression is to save bandwidth - storage capacity is a side benefit, but it's minor compared to bandwidth savings.

Of course, this is predicated on DTS-MA support prolificating in the market - an update to the PlayStation 3 to decode it would go a long way towards addressing this issue, as it will spur more manufacturers to support it, rather than just supplying core 1.5Mbps DTS decoding (not that 1.5Mbps sounds bad, mind!).

Bring on the Blade trilogy.

Because he owns a soon to be orphaned format?

No, no sour grapes due to an 'orphaned format' or any other reason. My point was simply that you could have easily said that New Line stopped supporting HD DVD 6 mos. or a year ago since they had just one release EVER. Supporting a format would be releasing many titles (i.e. Uni or WB).

questions to hd dvd guys, so how much were New line paid for dropping Hddvd like it was hot??

A high bitrate VC1/AVC + DTS-MA/Dolby TrueHD 7.1
They can save some space and bandwdith by using DTS-Ma and Dolby TrueHD and add some 1.1 content.
Can't wait for LOTR on Blu-ray Disc.

Likewise. I just don't want the theatrical versions and don't care about 1.1 content. PCM!

questions to hd dvd guys, so how were New line paid for dropping Hddvd like it was hot??

No one has ANY facts to support pay offs to any studios (Paramount or Warner). Also most don't understand that "pay offs" are usually "incentives". Having said that New Line is a Time Warner company.

I hope when LOTR comes out, it supports Dolby TrueHD. The core DTS tracks sound excellent, don't get me wrong, but it shouldn't take up too much extra room to include both and make most everyone happy. They can put all the extras on the 2nd disc. Will the 4 hour and 15 minute Return of the King fit on one disc? I wouldn't mind splitting it into two, if it means we get the extended editions. They are superior, IMHO.

I want The Lord of the Rings too, but I think if past New Line HD discs are any indicator you will get DTS-MA 7.1 (hopefully, they will have worked out the compatibility kinks by then).

The next questions would be: 24 bit? A brand new, true 7.1 mix or just 6.1 with duplicate back surrounds? They already made a 6.1 discrete mix for the four disc DVD sets, but will they go back and make a from-scratch mix with real stereo back channels for a complete 360 degree soundfield?

New Line is the house that Freddy built. I would like to see the Elm Street series as well as Austin Powers and LOTR.

I'd like to see LOTR et al sooner rather than later, but would also like my guilty pleasures like the Final Destination trilogy.

Bring on the Blade trilogy.

+1 and the deluxe Se7en (Finch BD at last!)

From Home Media Magazine:A New Line Home Entertainment spokesman confirms reports that the mini-major is following distributor Warner Home Video’s lead in abandoning HD DVD and releasing all future next-generation titles only in the Blu-ray Disc format.

And HBO Video president Henry McGee says HBO, too, is “following the same policy as Warner Home Video.”
http://www.homemediamagazine.com/news/html/breaking_article.cfm?sec_id=2&&article_ID=11853

That's final and absolute confirmation from the spokespeople of both New Line and HBO (to dispel the last one or two who doubted it).

Also here:

http://www.highdefdigest.com/news/show/1357

I was looking forward to The Golden Compass and Hairspray on HD-DVD. What's done is done.

I can't believe you guys think an old catalog title like Lord of the Rings will sell a ton of discs. Catalog sales are low volume on HDM--period.

I would rather have Friday anyway. (j/k)

Now, let's see them release some catalog titles.

And I don't just mean the obvious LOTR (everybody wants that, and they know it). Hopefully some or all of the following titles are in the works:

Boogie Nights
Magnolia
Se7en
The Player
Dumb and Dumber (original cut, please)
Pleasantville
The Sweet Hereafter (am I getting my hopes up too much for that one?)

Oh cool! Heather Graham in HD. Can we ask for anything more?