View Full Version : Toshiba D-KR10 (Costco's Version)


Nickerz
01-12-08, 09:45 PM
Costco has these now for $99 and I was thinking about picking one up but do they ONLY record or are they players too?

I recorded the Pats vs. Giants game on my Comcast DVR (Motorola) but will the Toshiba D-KR10 record it or will it refuse to record due to copyright issues?

Also, I have an HD DVD player but the native resolution on my Panny panel is 768, so will I see a big difference in the PQ between an HD DVD player and this upconverting one to 1080i from Costco?

Lastly, how is the PQ when recording DVR HD content to this upconverting 1080i unit?

Thanks,
Nick

bron
01-13-08, 01:56 AM
Costco has these now for $99 and I was thinking about picking one up but do they ONLY record or are they players too?

I recorded the Pats vs. Giants game on my Comcast DVR (Motorola) but will the Toshiba D-KR10 record it or will it refuse to record due to copyright issues?

Also, I have an HD DVD player but the native resolution on my Panny panel is 768, so will I see a big difference in the PQ between an HD DVD player and this upconverting one to 1080i from Costco?

Lastly, how is the PQ when recording DVR HD content to this upconverting 1080i unit?

Thanks,
Nick

The D-KR10 is a tunerless model recorder (all recorders can also play, of course). A stand-alone player for the same price would have more playback oriented features, but the picture quality of the KR10 is very good. Some people do not like the FFWD playback style (jumps vs smooth flow), but for most who just want to watch a DVD this won't be a big problem.

Have no idea whether the game you mention is copy protected or not, if it is, it won't record it, if it's not, it will. You would have to try to find out for sure. There are some devices that allow you to override the copy protect flags if you really need to.

The D-KR10 does a pretty good job of upscaling, but I doubt you will see any appreciable difference. In fact, if you have one of the Toshiba HD DVD players, their upscaling is about as good as it gets. (I'm no expert, just basing this on my own observations and research). If your HD DVD player is something like the XBOX 360 HD DVD, then you might notice an improvement.

Again, a lot depends on your exact equipment and setup, the only way to know for sure is to try it. As far as recording HD content, you understand it will be recorded as 480i, the DVD standard. That said, the PQ should be pretty good, but it will not equal the original HD source. Some detail will be lost. Most people doing this find it acceptable if their expectations are realistic to start with.

Good luck!

Bill1313
01-13-08, 10:26 AM
I recorded that game on my Samsung DVD Recorder so I would guess that you won't have any trouble copying it from your DVR to a DVD Recorder.

mdavej
01-15-08, 10:35 AM
Bron pretty much covered it. I just picked up one from costco as well to replace a panasonic ez17 and a samsung upconverting player.

Sounds like you don't need an upconverting player if you already have an HD player that upconverts as well. This unit has great PQ, but probably no better than what you've already got. That being said, my old Panasonic is a better recorder overall. It has flexible recording mode that the Toshiba doesn't. In other words, if you record a 2 hr 5 min show, the Panny will fit it on a disc at near SP quality. The same show would bump you up to LP quality (worse) on the Toshiba. And the Panasonic can record dual layer disks. AFAIK, the Toshiba can't. And the biggest difference, as others have said, is that the Panasonic has a tuner.

I was aware of the drawbacks going in. But I didn't need a tuner, wanted a single upconvert/record unit, and can't afford blank dual layer disks anyway. I do miss the flexible recording mode, though.

ericuf
01-16-08, 10:17 PM
Does anyone know the code for this toshiba that will work with a universal remote??? Thanks!

delta1082
01-21-08, 02:25 PM
Nickers,
Just wanted to know if you had any issues recording any programs from your comcast cable tuner.

PJH
01-28-08, 11:51 AM
I bought one of these to use in archiving shows from my Directv HR20-100. It has only one problem so far. Some recordings have subtitles and there is no way to shut them off.

Monitoring the S-VHS input to the D-KR10, there are no subtitles visible, but the playback from the D-KR10 has them.

The owner's manual even has this "helpful" tidbit in the troubleshooting section: Problem: "The subtitle language cannot be changed or turned off." Answer: "Multilanguage subtitle are not recorded on the DVD video"

Clearly I'm missing something important, or there is a bug. Has anyone else seen this?

anon812
01-28-08, 12:44 PM
Hi All

Am using a DR400 which is almost the same as KR10. I have question on the Audio output..

1. I have connected the A/V out from my Time Warner to the Line 1 in behind the DVD Recorder.

2. Am using the S-Video out to my TV and Digital out to my Onkyo S590 Home Theater system

The qun is:

1. Does component out produce a better sound quality than Digital out or is it the other way rnd?

2. the Audio output from the cable through my hometheater is displayed as PCM 48KHZ. and the Bass is lousy..anyways to improve this and is it right for it to display as PCM?

Nickerz
01-28-08, 02:11 PM
Nickers,
Just wanted to know if you had any issues recording any programs from your comcast cable tuner.



Sorry, I've been too busy so I haven't bought one yet but I'm still considering buying one. I'll have to see if Costco still has a pile of them in stock. If I do get one I will definitely report back here and let everyone know how it works with Comcast's DVR.

Thanks,
Nick

Trevorsplace
01-29-08, 10:15 AM
I have DTV so can't answer about Comcast but my KR10 will record anything from my DTV DVR. HBO, Showtime you name it. Does an excellent job of recording HD channels, it's SD but quality is better than most commercial DVD's.

Rammitinski
01-30-08, 03:53 AM
I have DTV..Yeah, but who's your provider?

:)

dashman
01-31-08, 01:23 PM
I too am considering this unit. I am looking for a lower priced DVD Recorder with upconvert and DIVX capability. I am also considering Philips 3475 or 3505. Any suggestions as to which of the above is best or another model. The DIVX is a must. This costco buy is attractive. The Philips I have seen available for $140 -160. Thanks.

mdavej
01-31-08, 03:19 PM
Don't know about the Philips, but I can vouch for the Toshiba. Upconversion and DivX work great on it.

Rammitinski
01-31-08, 05:02 PM
I too am considering this unit. I am looking for a lower priced DVD Recorder with upconvert and DIVX capability. I am also considering Philips 3475 or 3505. Any suggestions as to which of the above is best or another model. The DIVX is a must. This costco buy is attractive. The Philips I have seen available for $140 -160. Thanks.If the upconverting quality is that big of a priority, I don't know if I'd trust any of those Philips models. The one in the DVDR3575H, their supposed top model, is not that great.

dashman
02-01-08, 04:02 PM
Thanks.

I thought the Philips had good reviews overall. That's why I was wondering if the price spread gave any increase in quality. I want upconverting because I am going to buy an HDTV sometime soon. Most of my recording will come from my Verizon DVR.

I think I'll go to Costco and pick this up tomorrow unless anyone offers any other advice.

Rammitinski
02-02-08, 02:19 AM
Well, the recording quality of the Philips recorders is good, and the DVD player at 480i is good, it's just the upconversion in the 3575 I didn't think much of.

At least with Costco, if you're not satisfied, you can return it with no hassles. Heck, for $99. I'd give it a try myself, if I were looking for a tunerless DVD recorder right now.

anastasia79
12-02-08, 03:02 PM
Hi All

Am using a DR400 which is almost the same as KR10. I have question on the Audio output..

1. I have connected the A/V out from my Time Warner to the Line 1 in behind the DVD Recorder.

2. Am using the S-Video out to my TV and Digital out to my Onkyo S590 Home Theater system

The qun is:

1. Does component out produce a better sound quality than Digital out or is it the other way rnd?

2. the Audio output from the cable through my hometheater is displayed as PCM 48KHZ. and the Bass is lousy..anyways to improve this and is it right for it to display as PCM?


Hi,
I found out today that Onkyo home theater system, needs a digital out, my DVD player (same as yours) has the the S-Video out but not Optical Digital out or the Coaxial Digital Out, which is what it needs in order to get the FULL benefit of the Surround sound. ( as I was told by the rep. when purchasing my Onkyo HT-S5100)Hope that answers.
BTW Why does the DVD player says that it has the digital out on the top right corner... I don't know, seems it does not have the needed rectangular black audio out, only the hdmi video out. Maybe someone esle can help me with that one.

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?ci=0&shs=toshiba+6100&sb=ps&pn=1&sq=desc&InitialSearch=yes&O=jsp%2Fworkaround.jsp&A=search&Q=*&bhs=t&Go.x=20&Go.y=16#top
Here is the link to B&H web they sell Toshiba 6100 for $54 and it has all of the outs
1080p HD Upscaling HDMI Output USB Direct Input Digital Optical/Coaxial Audio Outputs MP3, JPEG, and DivX Playback Plays: DVD, DVD-R/W, DVD+R/W Discs


...but its not a recorder :(

bron
12-02-08, 05:02 PM
BTW Why does the DVD player says that it has the digital out on the top right corner... I don't know, seems it does not have the needed rectangular black audio out, only the hdmi video out. Maybe someone esle can help me with that one.

I assume it says that because it has audio over the HDMI connection which is digital. Some units only have video over the HDMI and you have to take your audio via composite or optical/coax digital out. I agree that it's confusing.

I'm not familiar with the newer A/V receivers, but I assume some of them accept digital audio over HDMI and deal with it correctly. That's my guess anyway. ;)

anon812
12-02-08, 06:08 PM
Hi,
I found out today that Onkyo home theater system, needs a digital out, my DVD player (same as yours) has the the S-Video out but not Optical Digital out or the Coaxial Digital Out, which is what it needs in order to get the FULL benefit of the Surround sound. ( as I was told by the rep. when purchasing my Onkyo HT-S5100)Hope that answers.
BTW Why does the DVD player says that it has the digital out on the top right corner... I don't know, seems it does not have the needed rectangular black audio out, only the hdmi video out. Maybe someone esle can help me with that one.

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Which model of Toshiba r u using Dr400 or kr10, as D-r400 comes with Coax Digital out.. Yellow or Black in some cases.. that shud produce good quality sound.. prob is with the weak cable signals may be.. movies sound awesome with the coax out, but cable sounds bad...that was my biggest complaint, as i wasnt sure it is losing signal coz of the pass through.. i havent connect the audio out from cable directly to the receiver to see if that changes things..