Master & Commander which was supposed to be released on Feb. 5th has been further delayed until June so it can be included in a father's day promotion.


http://www.thedigitalbits.com/#mytwocents


I've been waiting for this title for over a year, so my response to your further blu-ray delays FOX... **** YOU!!! :mad:

Master & Commander which was supposed to be released on Feb. 5th has been further delayed until June so it can be included in a father's day promotion.


http://www.thedigitalbits.com/#mytwocents


I've been waiting for this title for over a year, so my response to your further blu-ray delays FOX... **** YOU!!! :mad:


My response is SAND PEBBLES **** YEAH!!! :happy: ;)

Another example of Fox hurting more than helping BD's cause.

Man with all these movies coming out for fathers day, I hope he made me a big list of what he wants! :rolleyes:

Come on Fox!!! I am REALLY looking forward to this title. It should hopefully be reference for audio!

mrs doubtfire :)

thankyou fox

I guess they should be happy that fathers day is not celebrated (or maybe it is?) in Europe, because they got all of their movies on time.

Good. The M&C release from EU is abysmal. Mediocre PQ.

It needs a new transfer.

So don't be too disappointed. You will thank FOX later.

Good. The M&C release from EU is abysmal. Mediocre PQ.

It needs a new transfer.

So don't be too disappointed. You will thank FOX later.

^^

Good. The M&C release from EU is abysmal. Mediocre PQ.

It needs a new transfer.

So don't be too disappointed. You will thank FOX later.

Who says this will be a new transfer?!? The article simply states it is being bundled with other Blu Ray movies for Father's Day. They delayed Cast Away forever and when it finally came out it was the same exact movie that it would've been had it come out when it was supposed to. I seriously doubt it is in any way shape or form getting a new transfer, but instead it is being bundled so that Fox can syphon even more money out of the consumer when it is released. It is a Fox Exec thinking "Hey, people REALLY want this movie, how can we force people to spend MORE money to get it?"
Just one more example of Fox proving it is the WORST Hi Def studio (well, except maybe no show Weinstein).

Just like Predator and Commando are getting new transfers on their 25GB MPEG2 discs.. Fox sucks and they wont redo it until everyone has bought the first edition.

Who says this will be a new transfer?!? The article simply states it is being bundled with other Blu Ray movies for Father's Day. They delayed Cast Away forever and when it finally came out it was the same exact movie that it would've been had it come out when it was supposed to. I seriously doubt it is in any way shape or form getting a new transfer, but instead it is being bundled so that Fox can syphon even more money out of the consumer when it is released. It is a Fox Exec thinking "Hey, people REALLY want this movie, how can we force people to spend MORE money to get it?"
Just one more example of Fox proving it is the WORST Hi Def studio (well, except maybe no show Weinstein).

It needs a new transfer.

Trust me. I saw the recent release from EU. Its not something I will get excited about.


I am also disappointed when this was delayed last year. According to FOX its due to "technical difficulties". Ok fine as long as we get a decent PQ.

Then I saw the EU version :eek: *whew* that was close.

Fox is just recycling their DTheater masters for catalogs on Blu-ray.. Have any catalogs come out that didn't make it to DTheater?

Fox release dates are an absolute joke. If they delay "Me, Myself and Irene again I am really going to get pissed.

So we have to buy the bundle to get it ! If so we should all toss the other titles at the store door in disgust. This had better be worth the wait.

So we have to buy the bundle to get it ! If so we should all toss the other titles at the store door in disgust. This had better be worth the wait.

I think it is just a group of movies released on the same day, not an actual bundle, guess we will have to wait and see.

BTW, no love for the Sand Pebbles? Not even to see the origination of 'Rain Man'? Or Candace Bergen when she was hot? ;)

Fox..1) Charges more money than any studio for catalog releases.
2) Seriously cuts out extras on the releases.
3) Delay, Delay, Delay.
4) Gives no valid reason for delays and releases the same movie transfer that was originally to be released.

Forget buying the bundle and tossing the other movies in disgust, that teaches them no lesson because they already got your money. Hollywood listens to one thing only : Money.
Teach them a lesson, don't buy the bundle, make it and all their crappy releases a flop, reward their good releases by buying them (The Simpsons), this will teach them the lesson that they have to make it actually worth your while to buy their Blu Rays.

GRRRRRRRR!!!!!

While I know the EU transfer is not very good, is it better than the SD DVD? I'm kindof an uberfan of this movie. SO annoyed.

What would have been surprising is M&C actually being released in Feb.

Foxed again! It's comical....what a bunch of bozos. Father's Day promotion my ass. When the delay of Battle of Britain & Bridge Too Far was announced for a possible promotion in June, they had already delayed M&C for "technical reasons" and wait until just now to announce that M&C is part of the same promotion? Like I've said before, it's all part of their Game to string potential buyers along to maximize profits AND as a bonus keep potential customers in the Blu-ray fold; they have no intention of fullfilling these releases when they announce them.

Wait until March & April and see how many of those hi profile titles actually make it to the stores.

Good. The M&C release from EU is abysmal. Mediocre PQ.

It needs a new transfer.

So don't be too disappointed. You will thank FOX later.

yeah, cause they really showed us with their Robocop transfer.

Oh, wait........ :rolleyes:

Also, that list isn't exactly blowing my socks off in terms of "must-owns"

And I'm sure every Dad is clamoring for Mrs. Doubtfire on blu-ray.

Fox..1) Charges more money than any studio for catalog releases.
2) Seriously cuts out extras on the releases.
3) Delay, Delay, Delay.
4) Gives no valid reason for delays and releases the same movie transfer that was originally to be released.

Forget buying the bundle and tossing the other movies in disgust, that teaches them no lesson because they already got your money. Hollywood listens to one thing only : Money.
Teach them a lesson, don't buy the bundle, make it and all their crappy releases a flop, reward their good releases by buying them (The Simpsons), this will teach them the lesson that they have to make it actually worth your while to buy their Blu Rays.


Oh, I'll still buy them...but I'll teach the same lesson I teach video game companies that price too high.

I'll buy used for 25-30% of the initial selling price, and I'll buy it from a third party vendor so the studio gets none of those proceeds.

Also, that list isn't exactly blowing my socks off in terms of "must-owns"

And I'm sure every Dad is clamoring for Mrs. Doubtfire on blu-ray.


Robin Williams with a Pie face in 1080p with zero extras for $39.95...woohoo! Oh wait a minute....:rolleyes:

The attached pic is a testament to FOX's commitment for Blu-ray. :cool:

yeah, cause they really showed us with their Robocop transfer.

Oh, wait........ :rolleyes:

Well....Every studio has their stinkers. Fox has put out some nice PQ/AQ discs:

FROM HELL
SUNSHINE
FF2
28 WEEKS LATER
DIE HARD(s)
MAN ON FIRE
KINGDOM OF HEAVEN

But yeah, the delays suck.

What was the problem on the M&C EU disc? Banding? That fog must be a bitch to encode.

Master & Commander which was supposed to be released on Feb. 5th has been further delayed until June so it can be included in a father's day promotion.


http://www.thedigitalbits.com/#mytwocents


I've been waiting for this title for over a year, so my response to your further blu-ray delays FOX... **** YOU!!! :mad:
Maybe they will release it on HD-DVD :D
(just kidding, don't get all excited!)

If the delay is truly for improving the transfer, then I'm all for it. If however, it's just for a father's day promotion then why put it off. If it's a 'mediocre' transfer now it'll be a mediocre one on fathers day too. One of my favorite films of 2003 and certainly deserves Grand treatment.

What is this? The 4th time this title has been delayed? RIDICULOUS!!! :mad:

Great marketing slogan for Fox:

"Fox... DVD-Exclusive!"

Yeek.

Why is Master & Commander released in Europe first, before the US?:confused:

Because they first wanted to screw the E.U customers before taking the beating from stateside cowboys.

Did someone not tell me that Father's Day was a huge Blu-Ray/DVD purchasing holiday around which studios plan their catalog releases?

These delays are terrible. Fox is losing goodwill -- they better not disappoint.

Taking bets this will not be released until after that! :)

I watch bits and pieces of the SD DVD quite often and the PQ and AQ doesn't subtract whatsoever from my enjoyment. The quality could be worse and I still would continue to watch it!

Can anyone point me towards a review of the EU one, or at least a comparison of it vs the DVD? Or, is this one regionalized? I like this movie enough I'd by a crappy transfer if its a step above the SD DVD.

Edit - Did some searching and found that its region B or 2 or whatever, so that sucketh. Stupid Fox.

This is complete BS. Fox can stick it up their a**, I for one am NOT buying some over priced bundle of crap, thank you very much.

This is complete BS. Fox can stick it up their a**, I for one am NOT buying some over priced bundle of crap, thank you very much.

Reading is fundamental, not a bundle, just multiple movies released at the same time.

BTW, still no love for Sand Pebbles?!

I hate waiting...

Oh well, maybe by then I'll have a new receiver that can decode all the HD audio formats.

Also, no - I don't give a rat's ass about Sand Pebbles.

Seriously?
First they charge more than any one for catalog titles; then they don't give you any extras and at last they don't even release it.
I love Master and Commander; I'd buy it the day Fox releases it even with the higher price and no extras; but come on Fox at least release it.
The only upside that I can think of here is that hopeflly by the time this movie comes out PS3 gets DTS-MA to PCM encoding.

Reading is fundamental, not a bundle, just multiple movies released at the same time.

BTW, still no love for Sand Pebbles?!

Sand Pebbles is a really good story about "western" military arrogance & paternalistic attitudes toward other cultures that also contains very good acting.

Still doesn't change my attitude towards Fox and their idea of a mega-promotion. IMHO, they'd be better off getting them released over the 6 months rather than shove 'em out there all at once, flooding the buyers with choices with the result of potentially diluting total sales of all the titles. It's easier to buy 2 or 3 at a time than 8-10 all at once.

Even if they think they can pull in better sales with this so-called promotion, some people will just plain lose interest after being lied to several times. Maybe they think that all these titles as an aggregate will help spur BD player & disc sales. Who knows. All I can say is that they have no credibility in releasing titles. None!

In my case, the longer they wait to release M&C, my deluxe DVD edition looks better & better for my viewing needs, unless of course they do an outstanding job of improving PQ/AQ AND provide the same extras contained in the deluxe DVD set.

Delaying it yet again is just plain silly after it's already been pulled & re-announced several times already. Why did Europe get these titles already and the US has to wait 6 months?? Shame on Fox!!!:mad:

I wrote an e-mail to foxdrop@4icc.com this morning about our Master & Commander problem. Maybe there is a better place to write to but I finally got tired with all these delays and asked a few questions. I hope more feel the need to also write to Fox.

Sand Pebbles is a really good story about "western" military arrogance & paternalistic attitudes toward other cultures that also contains very good acting.

Still doesn't change my attitude towards Fox and their idea of a mega-promotion. IMHO, they'd be better off getting them released over the 6 months rather than shove 'em out there all at once, flooding the buyers with choices with the result of potentially diluting total sales of all the titles. It's easier to buy 2 or 3 at a time than 8-10 all at once.

Even if they think they can pull in better sales with this so-called promotion, some people will just plain lose interest after being lied to several times. Maybe they think that all these titles as an aggregate will help spur BD player & disc sales. Who knows. All I can say is that they have no credibility in releasing titles. None!

In my case, the longer they wait to release M&C, my deluxe DVD edition looks better & better for my viewing needs, unless of course they do an outstanding job of improving PQ/AQ AND provide the same extras contained in the deluxe DVD set.

Delaying it yet again is just plain silly after it's already been pulled & re-announced several times already. Why did Europe get these titles already and the US has to wait 6 months?? Shame on Fox!!!:mad:

Agreed with the multiple titles at once, it is hard for me to justify purchasing more than 2-3 movies at a time, except during xmas.

Did Fox say Fathers Day of this year?

Delayed titles, like Master & Commander, don't bother me, because they do come out eventually (and patience is one of my virtues).

I am thrilled, though, about the cool catalog releases included in this batch. Hope they sell well enough so that we can see more titles like this from other studios in the future.

Come on Foxie. Put that $120 mil towards some releases.

no hurry here

I hate that Fox is delaying M&C. I love that they are bringing the Sand Pebbles and Patton to HD.

Jorge

Good. The M&C release from EU is abysmal. Mediocre PQ.

It needs a new transfer.

So don't be too disappointed. You will thank FOX later.

Oh man, I really hope you're right.

Also, that list isn't exactly blowing my socks off in terms of "must-owns"

And I'm sure every Dad is clamoring for Mrs. Doubtfire on blu-ray.

Hey, nothing says "perfect Father's Day gift" better than a movie about a failing divorced dad losing custody of his kids who's further reduced to dressing in drag!

I hate that Fox is delaying M&C. I love that they are bringing the Sand Pebbles and Patton to HD.

Jorge
I hope they hurry up and bring all three to Blu-ray instead of just posturing!

And they can add "The Longest Day" as well.

****

Did someone not tell me that Father's Day was a huge Blu-Ray/DVD purchasing holiday around which studios plan their catalog releases?

These delays are terrible. Fox is losing goodwill -- they better not disappoint.

It's certainly easier to continually postpone titles-than to meet the promised dates. Poor management. You really have to wonder if Fux runs WBs on-line store.(?)

Again delayed??!! How disappointing, Fox!!!!:mad::mad::mad::mad:
_____
Axel

From hidefdigest:

"At press time there were no plans to alter the originally announced Blu-ray specs for 'Master & Commander' upon its eventual release."

Sounds like no new transfer.

Good. The M&C release from EU is abysmal. Mediocre PQ.
It needs a new transfer.
So don't be too disappointed. You will thank FOX later.
Not the same as the D-Theater?

Fox sets a new level for disrespecting their customers. I wonder if great directors like Peter Weir ever consider stuff like this when they do business with a studio or is it just dollars that drive the decisions.

These delays are terrible. Fox is losing goodwill -- they better not disappoint.

Of course they'll disappoint... how else do they intend us to double dip?

Of course they'll disappoint... how else do they intend us to double dip?

Yea.. Fux is releasing 4 packs X 4 of Oscar winners on SD in-time for the Oscars Awards. Good stuff–for a trip down some distant, memory lane. I guess we know where Fux has its heart—and head.

It needs a new transfer.

Trust me. I saw the recent release from EU. Its not something I will get excited about.


I am also disappointed when this was delayed last year. According to FOX its due to "technical difficulties". Ok fine as long as we get a decent PQ.

Then I saw the EU version :eek: *whew* that was close.

Let's hope you're right, but "needs" and "gets" are two different things. We shall see.

They are pushing it back for a Father's Day promtion!? Pardon my French, but i smell bullsh*t.

Watched the SD DVD last night again for who knows how many times this has been.

There is some difficult material considering the heavy fog and rain at times along with night scenes and I'm really not sure how much better the BD treatment will be with that. The single disc version I have and also the 2 disc collector's edition already has good scores for PQ and AQ. I really don't know how much more we will get above that! Time will tell but I'm curious and will try it when it is available in US. We already have folks who viewed it saying it isn't much better.

Not the same as the D-Theater?

Good question. Unfortunately I dont have the D-Theater caps to make comparison.

As you may know, 20th Century Fox was thinking of changing its name to 21st Century Fox. But with all delays and cancellations of BDs in the last year, they've concluded that it would be wise to change it to 22nd Century Fox.

As you may know, 20th Century Fox was thinking of changing its name to 21st Century Fox. But with all delays and cancellations of BDs in the last year, they've concluded that it would be wise to change it to 22nd Century Fox.

Or 19th Century Fox...

Watched the SD DVD last night again for who knows how many times this has been.

There is some difficult material considering the heavy fog and rain at times along with night scenes and I'm really not sure how much better the BD treatment will be with that. The single disc version I have and also the 2 disc collector's edition already has good scores for PQ and AQ. I really don't know how much more we will get above that! Time will tell but I'm curious and will try it when it is available in US. We already have folks who viewed it saying it isn't much better.

There is plenty to improve upon the DVD, the source won't be the limitation here as well, so if the Euro version is not much better then the DVD, then it's not a real HD IMO.

This is incredibly frustrating. After missing it in October, I was ready to get it for my birthday in February. Now we are looking at Memorial Day/Father's Day?

thehun,

read post #12 by Xylon. I guess he is saying this isn't what we will be getting in US.

I've read it, see my post #57

IMHO, since there's already a transfer done released for the Euro market, I wouldn't expect Fox to re-do it just for the US market. Fox hasn't yet done anything like this before, so why would this be an exception? I totally agree with thehun; speculation that Fox will take their delay as an opportunity to spend more money and improve it is highly wishful (or delusional ;))thinking.

We're gonna get what's already been done and released.

To be best of my knowledge FOX has not done any region exclusive encodes for it's titles. They are dumping whatever they should have released 1 year back with BD+.

I don't see their monetary incentive to re-do a catalog title like M&C on BD. For a small group of enthusiasts? No money--or not enough to make them do it. To my way of thinking, throw the same EU crap out there around Fathers Day-with the other releases. Smoke and mirrors, boys. Not smoke and oakum.

Wow, a full year delay for this movie on BD. What a joke.

So basically we will have gotten to wait a year for a poor transfer, dts:MA soundtrack that about 4 of us can actually hear, no special features and a $39.99 MSRP. FU Fox.

5/13!!!

This is a big title, really luv this movie, and sadly, waiting is harder on this one then for MANY others because the DVD simply does not seem to upconvert well, least to my eyes....where some dvd 's really hold their own and upconversion can suffice for now, Master And Commander just looks so drab, even upscaling doesn't satisfy....oh well, here's to hoping it actually shows on Fatehrs Day (or sooner)!!

The Final specs

Date:May 13th, 2008

http://www.blu-ray.com/news/?id=995

'Master and Commander: The Far Side of the World

* Historical and Geographic Trivia Track (BD Exclusive)
* Geographic Pop-up Map (track the location of Captain "Lucky" Jack Aubrey and his enemies) (BD Exclusive)
* Personal Scene Selections (BD Exclusive)
* Search Content (BD Exclusive)
* Master and Commander Theatrical Trailer (HD) (BD Exclusive)
* D-Box Compatible (BD Exclusive)
* Deleted Scenes:
* Weighing Anchor
* Shipboard Life
* Superstition
* Dentistry
* Articles of War

BD-50s with AVC video and DTS-HD Master Audio soundtracks. "

^^^^^^

You know what we ain't holding!! :)

I am quite happy to see the minimal special features; I take that as a promising sign that the PQ in the movie will get the benefit of the mid 30 bitrate treatment that we have seen on other recent Fox releases.

Are these specs any different than what was announced back in the fall?

I'm pleased w/ the new final specs :)

I just hope PS3 gets DTS-MA decoding by then!

I'm pleased w/ the new final specs :)


Me too. :)

I'm pleased w/ the new final specs :)

Unlike, say, the specs on Sony's Across the Universe, where we get over 90 minutes of HD extras and the resulting less than optimal PQ on the movie itself.

If they are just re-using DTheater masters, where in hell is Fight Club?

U.K BD review out here.

http://www.dvdactive.com/reviews/dvd/master-and-commander-the-far-side-of-the-world.html

D-Theater was MPEG2. This is AVC. So unless Fox is re-encoding MPEG2 to AVC, which makes absolutely no sense, this has got to be a different master than the D-Theater release.

That review is quiet positive, despite early reports of it. We shall see.

The way were going in Australia here we should see Master and Commander in the next few days.

Damn Region Coding on Blu-rays. Featured in mediadis B2G1 sale but unable to grab it coz of Regional Coding.

This should be a treat - looks like some very nice specs and extras of a movie that SCREAMS for you to drop big cash on your A/V experience...

MEC2

This should be a treat - looks like some very nice specs and extras of a movie that SCREAMS for you to drop big cash on your A/V experience...

MEC2I agree; I've always enjoyed this movie on SD and still feel the sound track is one of the better ones to show off a HT system. Hopefully, the video on this transfer is as good as that review says it is.

Now, I have to hope Panasonic addresses their Fox DTS-MA issue on the BD30 player; i would be afraid to put a Fox disc with DTS-MA in my player right now!

If they are just re-using DTheater masters, where in hell is Fight Club?

I heard it's coming soon.

I picked BLuRay because of this movie, and was excited about getting it in May ... of 2007 !!!!!!

Still not quite sure what the delay was for. All of the special features announced US verison where in the Euro version. Not like they were finishing them up.

I thought that the Euro version was a BD-25 with MPEG-2.

Ronin, Predator and Commando are MPEG-2 encoded on BD-25.

I thought that the Euro version was a BD-25 with MPEG-2.

No...it's AVC on a BD-50

Is the Euro version of this film region locked?

So the Euro version is region locked? Just wanted to confirm before I waste my money :)

Little over a month left before release and still no pre-order on Amazon? Seems odd seeing as there are pre-orders out there into July. I'm wondering if this is going to be delayed again!?

Little over a month left before release and still no pre-order on Amazon? Seems odd seeing as there are pre-orders out there into July. I'm wondering if this is going to be delayed again!?

DVD Empire has it for preorder. Or perhaps, it's been cancelled again and that's why amazon doesn't have it. I'm sure that's what is going on. Darn, cancelled again.

I have had M&C preordered from Amazon since it was announced the first time. They haven't canceled mine yet.

They probably don't want to waste their time taking more pre-orders for a title that they can't trust FOX about. I have had mine pre-ordered since September 11th, 2007. It has even rolled off of my 6 month order list. I have to go by year to find it. LOL

just read the Oz review (http://www.michaeldvd.com.au/Reviews/Reviews.asp?ID=8174) - other than the fact that somebody's got to teach him about 1080i/p on fixed panel equipment (nice to see this trope hasn't died yet), but it's the first I personally noticed that they've dumped all the stuff on the 2 disc set. This is officially becoming ridiculous, and Fox is proving to be the worst of all. Nice that the film's an upgrade, inexcusable that they've dropped the extras, thus making it far from a definitive release (the SD does have some of the best extras ever produced, and worth picking up even as a post-BD double dip).

I can't seem to find the M&C amazon link?

It's available for pre-order on wal-mart.com also. usually when a movie shows up on their website it's usually solid.

FOX [worst studio for Blu-ray]
*****
BD25 - 31
[Commando, Ronin, Predator will also be on BD25]
BD50 - 25
MPEG2 - 27

MGM
*****
BD25 - 10
BD50 - 3
MPEG2 - 11

Warner
********
BD25 - 59
BD50 - 52
MPEG2 - 7

Lionsgate
**********
BD25 - 16
BD50 - 20
MPEG2 - 16

Buena Vista
*************
BD25 - 22
BD50 - 42
MPEG2 - 11

Sony
******
BD25 - 34
BD50 - 84
MPEG2 - 45

Anyone finding a good pre-order price?

@lgans316
You might have a point, but remember Fox took like 6 months off from releasing movies, so those rations wouldn t be as bad. Also, the majority of those BD-25's were early release titles, before most studios even began using BD-50's (Blackhawk down was one of the first). And by most accounts their MPEG-2 films are pretty good (Kingdom of Heaven). Again, you raise a good point, but numbers don t tell the whole story.

Well, it sounds like the feature list reads better than it is - disappointing, this film is one of the best made in the last 10 years. Hoped for more stuff. But, the good news seems to be it gets VERY good audio and video scores, and that's 90% of the ball game for me. Can't wait...

MEC2

http://avplay.avforums.com/index.php?showmediareview=9289

PQ : 7/10 :(
SQ: 10/10

http://www.dvdactive.com/reviews/dvd/master-and-commander-the-far-side-of-the-world.html

PQ : 9/10 :)
SQ : 9/10

http://www.michaeldvd.com.au/Reviews/Reviews.asp?ID=8174

http://www.blurayreviews.ch/reviews/master-and-commander-blu-ray-review.htm

PQ : 3/5 :(
SQ : 5/5

http://www.digital-movie.de/dvd-reviews/review.asp?ArtNr=6356

PQ : 4.5/6 :(
SQ : 6/6

http://www.cinerama.no/html/review/48687549.html

Extras :mad::(

* Historical and Geographic Trivia Track
* Geographic Pop-up Map (track the location of Captain "Lucky" Jack Aubrey and his enemies)
* Personal Scene Selections
* Search Content
* Master and Commander Theatrical Trailer (HD)
* D-Box Compatible
* 5 Deleted Scenes

Bill Hunt confirmed it for may 13th. Fox does great work, lossless on every disc. Warner is the worst studio. low bitrate VC-1 and lossy on alot of releases. Fox has alot more reference quality discs than a Warner.

Anyone know why this title wouldn't now be available for pre-order at Amazon? Little more than two weeks away...

Bill Hunt confirmed it for may 13th. Fox does great work, lossless on every disc. Warner is the worst studio. low bitrate VC-1 and lossy on alot of releases. Fox has alot more reference quality discs than a Warner.

Not with catalogues for fans of high cinema.(25 and MPEG 2 don't mix)
Other than that, you're pretty much on the ball.
That and Fox is last for extras. The W wins there.

Those PQ reviews are all over the place.
M&C was shot so beautifully(from what I remember) the only way you could eff it up is with an MPEG2 encode on a single layer.

It's AVC so it should be pretty pleasing.

They can delay this title for all of eternity as far as Im concerned. Just an atrociously boring film with nothing happening for two hours. They take a cool concept, naval warfare, and you get better battle scenes & intrigue with a Kids/Family movie... Pirates of the Caribbean. :rolleyes:

Please delay this and release something GOOD instead..... like Alien & Aliens.

:D

Well reviews may be all over the place but not for the audio! I suppose we were confident it would be good.

I got the SD DVD for about $10.00 or so. Any upgrade in PQ would be worth it and I feel the sound will destroy the audio track on the SD DVD also! :)

They can delay this title for all of eternity as far as Im concerned. Just an atrociously boring film with nothing happening for two hours. They take a cool concept, naval warfare, and you get better battle scenes & intrigue with a Kids/Family movie... Pirates of the Caribbean. :rolleyes:

Please delay this and release something GOOD instead..... like Alien & Aliens.

:D

Nothing happens for two hours?

It's called "story".

Stick with the beer movies.

Anyone know why this title wouldn't now be available for pre-order at Amazon? Little more than two weeks away...

Because fox has jerked everyone around on this title so much that Amazon got sick of trying to keep its system updated and pissing off its customers that its deciding to wait until it accualy has the title in hand before selling it.

Because fox has jerked everyone around on this title so much that Amazon got sick of trying to keep its system updated and pissing off its customers that its deciding to wait until it accualy has the title in hand before selling it.

They are doing the same thing with Battle of Britain. I pre-ordered that one 9 months ago.

They can delay this title for all of eternity as far as Im concerned. Just an atrociously boring film with nothing happening for two hours. They take a cool concept, naval warfare, and you get better battle scenes & intrigue with a Kids/Family movie... Pirates of the Caribbean. :rolleyes:

Please delay this and release something GOOD instead..... like Alien & Aliens.

:D

It is not a naval warfare flick. Hence, no huge battle scenes.

They can delay this title for all of eternity as far as Im concerned. Just an atrociously boring film with nothing happening for two hours. They take a cool concept, naval warfare, and you get better battle scenes & intrigue with a Kids/Family movie... Pirates of the Caribbean. :rolleyes:

Please delay this and release something GOOD instead..... like Alien & Aliens.

:D
Let us know how 8th grade works out.

MEC2

And no extras fromthe S.E. dvd to boot!! Thank you Fox! Next time casn you kiss me first!

FOX [worst studio for Blu-ray]
*****
BD25 - 31
[Commando, Ronin, Predator will also be on BD25]
BD50 - 25
MPEG2 - 27

MGM
*****
BD25 - 10
BD50 - 3
MPEG2 - 11

Warner
********
BD25 - 59
BD50 - 52
MPEG2 - 7

Lionsgate
**********
BD25 - 16
BD50 - 20
MPEG2 - 16

Buena Vista
*************
BD25 - 22
BD50 - 42
MPEG2 - 11

Sony
******
BD25 - 34
BD50 - 84
MPEG2 - 45

+1

Fox does great work, lossless on every disc. Warner is the worst studio. low bitrate VC-1 and lossy on alot of releases. Fox has alot more reference quality discs than a Warner.

Fox has been among the best in not giving us heavily DNR-laden and/or edge enhanced crap. They have that part of the equation down, and it makes me especially excited for their upcoming catalog titles.

Fox has been among the best in not giving us heavily DNR-laden and/or edge enhanced crap. They have that part of the equation down, and it makes me especially excited for their upcoming catalog titles.

Agreed.

Difficult material that some of this film has to deal with (nighttime, stormy seas, heavy rain, fog, etc.) I'll hope for the best over the PQ of SD DVD. We all have been patient with this to be released so it best be good! :)

Hong Kong version release date is on 30/4.Let's see if there is any delay .

http://www.play-asia.com/paOS-13-71-13c-49-en-70-2qh6.html

They can delay this title for all of eternity as far as Im concerned. Just an atrociously boring film with nothing happening for two hours. They take a cool concept, naval warfare, and you get better battle scenes & intrigue with a Kids/Family movie... Pirates of the Caribbean. :rolleyes:

Please delay this and release something GOOD instead..... like Alien & Aliens.

:D

Interesting and very well thought out comments.

And your wishes for a delay so that the movies you want will come out first (which of course makes no sense at all)...well, it's nothing less than staggering.

Don't understand why you guys keep saying that this title has been delayed. It has been sitting on the shelf of my audio/video store since last week! They still had 2 left at noon.:confused:
Did not purchased as I already have it on DVD and do not find Master and Commander good enough to upgrade.

And no extras fromthe S.E. dvd to boot!! Thank you Fox! Next time casn you kiss me first!

Huh???

+1

You quoted about 30 lines and only answered with "+1"?

I'm impressed.

For those worried about another delay, don't. My copy of M&C shipped today. Don't ask from where. It's not a good idea to publicize that information.

It is almost like amazon will not make this available until they actually have it for distribution. Or maybe they will not handle it at all. Time will tell.

For those worried about another delay, don't. My copy of M&C shipped today. Don't ask from where. It's not a good idea to publicize that information.

Is this the US version? If so, please post your findings concerning PQ and AQ.

Thanks much!
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Axel

Is this the US version? If so, please post your findings concerning PQ and AQ.

Thanks much!
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Axel

Yes. It is the US version. Probably won't watch it until the weekend.

Yes. It is the US version. Probably won't watch it until the weekend.

Thanks for the good news (lucky bastid - I can't wait to get this one, a major all time fav movie :))

Did you pre-order it long ago or just recently - I see a certain well known site for shipping early has it up for pre-order, I'd pull the trigger right now if I knew they'd ship it out pronto and not hang onto it until closer to the 13th, hmmmm

Hong Kong version release date is on 30/4.Let's see if there is any delay .

http://www.play-asia.com/paOS-13-71-13c-49-en-70-2qh6.html

Still says "Not yet published or released":confused:

In stock now, ships in 1-5 days.

amazon preorder

http://www.amazon.com/product/dp/B000VDDWDS/?tag=httpwwwreleas-20

Finally!

27.95 for a catalog title with zero film related extras. Sorry.

The two disc set was a very nice package. Like Kingdom of Heaven, I held onto it so as not to lose the special features when the featureless high def version came out.

Sorry, can't resist, but in the time honored tradition of the board where intentions, preorders, orders, arrivals, and births are announced, I'd like to announce the arrival of M&C (and Twister) on BD, just received from the FedEx guy and the plastic wrapping has been taken off.

I was planning of comparing the BD and SD of M&C, but to my surprise, I realized I had never purchased the SD of M&C, so that makes my BD purchase even more worthwhile and justified.

I won't watch the entire movies until the weekend, but intend to sample the disks soon. After doing a few odds and ends at the house, I anticipate a 6:48 pm PDT start time for previewing M&C. Does anyone want me to post some quick first impressions?

Does anyone want me to post some quick first impressions?

Does the Pope **** in the woods?

Does the Pope **** in the woods?

so I guess that is a "NO" huh ??

Does the Pope **** in the woods?

I thought that it was a bear?

The abolition of special features continues

http://www.axelmusic.com/resources/covers/back/024543435501.jpg

What's missing from the CE ?

http://dvdmg.com/masterandcommanderce.shtml

• “The Hundred Days” Documentary
• “In the Wake of O’Brian” Documentary
• “Cinematic Phasmids” Featurette
• “Sound Design” Featurette
• “HBO First Look” Featurette
• Multi-Camera Shooting
• Still Galleries

My thoughts on the UK version,which I have just viewed on a 8ft 2:35:1 screen in 24/1080p.I would say that there is little or no difference to the D-Theatre copy that I use to own. That was limited to 1080i but even so, the master looks the same.For me the step from DVD is worthwhile although the picture and especially the colour/skin tones can be inconsistent.An example of this is from 1:38:17 , where Dr stephen Maturin explores the Galapagos islands,he climbs to the top of a ridge,the cu looks fine as he nears the top,then when he gets to the top,the shot looks slightly soft and has a yellow bias.To be honest this is more apparent on a large screen rather than a 42 plasma. This could be explained by the need for special effects?
The D-theatre had a DTS audio track at 1509kbps with 'EX' encoded. The DTS HD MA track on the Blu-Ray sounds very good(understatement) but I have not had the time so far,to find out if its 5.1.(as listed)or 5.1.EX
As for the extra's(like I have had to do with 'Kingdom of Heaven' 4-disc)it's essential to keep the 2 disc DVD,for its superb documentary.

Frank,

Glad you got it and please post impressions ASAP. One of my higher anticipated titles but I have waited long enough as it is whereby I may not take an early plunge though because of the price unless overall opinions are very very favorable. Most have this on SD and enjoy it so I anticipate they may wait until the price is right also. Those looking for Fox titles BTW may be interested in a Frys sale with many other BD titles at $14.99.

Thanks davide for your opinion. Much appreciated.

I was really hoping for a 7.1 track on this one. :(

Any change someone could edit the title of the thread as it is a bit confusing?

I really think a new thread for reviews and reactions should be opened for discussion of the quality of this BD to tell you the truth.

I really think a new thread for reviews and reactions should be opened for discussion of the quality of this BD to tell you the truth.

That or the thread title needs an alteration.

Greetings,

I just received my review copy this morning. I will screen it and post a few thoughts as soon as I can.

Regards,

Frys.com is showing this as Shipping Today and Available. Didn't try to order it though.

My thoughts on the UK version,which I have just viewed on a 8ft 2:35:1 screen in 24/1080p.I would say that there is little or no difference to the D-Theatre copy that I use to own. That was limited to 1080i but even so, the master looks the same.For me the step from DVD is worthwhile although the picture and especially the colour/skin tones can be inconsistent.An example of this is from 1:38:17 , where Dr stephen Maturin explores the Galapagos islands,he climbs to the top of a ridge,the cu looks fine as he nears the top,then when he gets to the top,the shot looks slightly soft and has a yellow bias.To be honest this is more apparent on a large screen rather than a 42 plasma. This could be explained by the need for special effects?
The D-theatre had a DTS audio track at 1509kbps with 'EX' encoded. The DTS HD MA track on the Blu-Ray sounds very good(understatement) but I have not had the time so far,to find out if its 5.1.(as listed)or 5.1.EX
As for the extra's(like I have had to do with 'Kingdom of Heaven' 4-disc)it's essential to keep the 2 disc DVD,for its superb documentary.

Thank you for your comparison of the new disc to the D-Theater tape. Even with room for improvement, I was satisfied enough with the image before to more than likely be happy here, as well. There's been a lot of pessimism in here and I was preparing for the worst.

Would you be able to say if the DTS-MA track is a noticeable leap over the lossy track on the tape or not? I may be looking forward to hearing this movie again more than actually seeing it.

Only had the chance to watch about 20 minutes of the movie.

Viewed on 60" Pioneer 150FD plasma from Pioneer 95 BD player.

The DTS MA sound (5.1) was superb. I use PLIIx on a Denon 4308 to create 7.1 channels. Distinct sounds coming from all the speakers. The cats were frequently turning their heads to look at the various speakers. That's my test for good sound separation. :)

The colors in this movie tend to be muted in line with a not so sunny sky and nighttime scenes. So, there won't be the "pop" that is so often looked for. That being said, the PQ is very good. I'm glad I purchased this BD and look forward to watching the entire movie this weekend.

Greetings,

I just received my review copy this morning. I will screen it and post a few thoughts as soon as I can.

Regards,


Please do so.

Thanks!
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Axel

Only had the chance to watch about 20 minutes of the movie.

Viewed on 60" Pioneer 150FD plasma from Pioneer 95 BD player.

The DTS MA sound (5.1) was superb. I use PLIIx on a Denon 4308 to create 7.1 channels. Distinct sounds coming from all the speakers. The cats were frequently turning their heads to look at the various speakers. That's my test for good sound separation. :)

The colors in this movie tend to be muted in line with a not so sunny sky and nighttime scenes. So, there won't be the "pop" that is so often looked for. That being said, the PQ is very good. I'm glad I purchased this BD and look forward to watching the entire movie this weekend.

Very encouraging!
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Axel