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mrigsby
01-17-08, 06:48 PM
Ok, we're a casual gaming clan but we want to get better. Lets hear your best Warhawk tips.

Sniping - When in a sniping battle with a talented sniper, set yourself up so that your covered but you can see over your shield. Stand up and pinpoint your opps place. Once you crouch back down immediately go into sniping mode (IE - your looking trhough the scope) - now aim it (while you're still conceiled behind your shield - you'll still see your opps name and location through it). When you're ready, hit the crouch button to stand up. When you're standing, you're sights will usually still be on the sniper and BAM! you won the sniping battle.

I do this all the time, it annoys the crap out of the opposing teams - especially when they have someone who thinks they are a sniping stud.

Remember, it doesn't always work - but once you get it down, you can bounce up fire a shot and then bounce down again befor ethey even have a chance to aim.



I think that's how I do it....It's gotten automatic so I'll have to check my steps again...but, if you get in those situations, you'll see what I mean.

mbgonzomd
01-17-08, 06:54 PM
Two words: Land mines:)

1) Know were they are and pick them up whenever you get a chance
2) Place them around flags (you will always get planes that want to land right there
3) Place them where there are shadows/dark areas on the roads (harder to detect when driving)
4) Infiltrate the enemy base and lay them on their planes and jeeps (where they can't see them). Nothing worse than a plane that blows up when you try to get in it.
5) Place them on ceilings, people never look up when they are running into a structure.

EDIT: 6) Always place a mine at the mine location. That way the next SOB trying to get your mines, gets a little surprise:).

If you utilize land mines well you will always be at the top of the leader board at the end of the game.

mrigsby
01-17-08, 06:59 PM
One of my favorite land mine tricks is on the center base on Archipalago. You get the land mines and place them dead center on the ceiling at the front and back of each enterence. Jeeps zoom through...booom - tanks roll through and get hit by the first one and there's damamge, the second destroys them.


I racked up 30 kills one game doing that - I had another 10 with the warhawk (my highest kill game ever)


Also, use tall grass

splinters
01-17-08, 07:04 PM
heh, you guys are giving away some of my best counters! :)

Here are a couple of my key points...

1) Use the knife if your moving into a base with stealth, less likely to show up on radar
2) learn how to time your knife while running to hit your opponent when you arrive
3) if your in mid-range of a sniper, take a rocket launcher to shoot back, you don't have to be as precise, but you will have the sniper jumping all over to avoid the splash damage.
4) Support your teammates! Try to stay together with another warhawk when in the air, when on the ground, don't go by yourself. In base defense, always make sure there are at least 2 guys there before you take off on offense.
5) CTF Base defense includes the nearest base outside of the one containing the flag. Hold that and the ability to capture a flag is significantly harder.
6) learn the power slide in the advanced flight mode of the Warhawk

-Splints

mulder_fbi
01-17-08, 09:43 PM
Newbies:

1. Base capture first, fight second. It's hard to win a match with only one spawn spot.
2. If a teammate hops into a plane with you, take him somewhere productive like to another plane or to capture a spawn. DO NOT FIGHT WHILE YOU HAVE A TEAM MATE IN THE PLANE WITH YOU. AAAAHHHHHHHHHH!!! :D
3. Don't ride around the map in a tank. You should be killing or dying every few seconds. :D Don't spend a few minutes driving somewhere only to die when you get there.
4. If you must play ranked servers as a newbie, please join the winning team. Don't newbie stack the losing team.
5. Don't be afraid of using the warhawk. The warhawk is your friend. If you control the sky, you control the war.

mulder_fbi
01-17-08, 09:50 PM
6) Always place a mine at the mine location. That way the next SOB trying to get your mines, gets a little surprise:).

If you utilize land mines well you will always be at the top of the leader board at the end of the game.

I agree. Before I got use to air combat, I did a lot of mining. My favorite was to mine the warhawks at the enemy main base. As soon as they get into the plane, booooom!!!

vtec4me
01-17-08, 10:09 PM
can you choose where you respawn in CTF?

mulder_fbi
01-17-08, 10:13 PM
can you choose where you respawn in CTF?

In any game type, you can respawn at any spawn location your team controls. That's why my number one tip is to spawn capture first, fight second.

vtec4me
01-17-08, 11:11 PM
how do you change your respawn location

splinters
01-18-08, 12:51 AM
When you die, the main map appears. You can use the directional buttons to select spawn locations. I believe there is a little white box around the location to spawn at. Hit "X" to respawn at that location.

-Splints

itjayw
01-18-08, 03:49 AM
How/where exactly do place the mine on planes? Thats a good one, that I'll try when I get home from work.:D

mbgonzomd
01-18-08, 08:49 AM
Anywhere on the plane will work. If the plane is in a location that the enemy will typically approach it from side A, put the mine on side B.

mulder_fbi
01-18-08, 11:07 AM
Other Mine Tricks:

Note that you can place a mine on any vehicle but the tank requires 2 mines. I haven't tried to mine a drop ship. :)

When mining spawns, instead of putting mines on the ground where pilots can easily see them, I put them on the skinny part of the spawn flag pole. As soon as someone flys in to capture the spawn, boooom!!!

On the full Destroyed Capital map, I will mine the roof of the enemy main base near where they climb the ladder to get to the roof. Then I use their own missle turrent againt them while the mines watch my back. Note that the enemy may spawn on the roof but you should be able to take him out. :)

kekborg
01-18-08, 11:34 AM
Here is one.

Scenario - in a warhawk or any vehicle, short on life, find a replacement some where on the map that has full life that you want to exchange for...make sure you blow up your original vehicle so it spawns back at one of your bases.

mrigsby
01-18-08, 12:01 PM
Here's a new one I used last night.


You have a little more control over the Warhawk when in Pro Flight mode. When playing Destroyed Capital, go to the top of your bases center spire. Wait for those planes that hover around picking of guys on foot....dive straight down the sheer side of the tower while either locking a homing missle or swarms on him. Get low enough and start using your machine gun...take him down about 25% and release your missle

Almost perfect kill



Also, on flight, this is pretty basic but we have a bunch of new players. When in a dog fight, make sure you use your machine gun to take your opps health bar down before unleashing your missles. Most of the time the missles won't be enough to finish the job. A quick run down with the machine gun and then the missles will finish him almost every time


Remember, in a Warhawk the machine gun is your best friend.

mrigsby
01-18-08, 12:07 PM
On the Island Outpost map....there is a hill right in front of the bunker where your team's jeep and tanks are housed. On top of that hill is a place for Warhawks to restock their strafes.

Place a mine right under that strafe sign....Warhawkls fly low enough to get caught by the mine. Doesn't always work but it helps with a kill every now and then.




On Desert Warfare and Archipelago, when battling a guy for the center base make sure you have the rocket launcher. There are two walls that run on both sides of the spawning flag. Set your rocket launcher to hit the ground and aim it in the general vacinity of your opp. Run on the side, jump and release the rocket...they rarely survive that if you are aiming correct. Plus it keeps you from being hit by multiple gun shots while taking over the base. Make sure you do it before he's captured it or the odds are you'll be fighting someone else for the base.

mulder_fbi
01-18-08, 12:12 PM
I beleive that if you cause someone damage and then your teammate actually kills them, you get 1/5 of a team point. Thus, in dog fighting games, I'll spray any enemy close by with machine gun fire to get cheap points. :)

mbgonzomd
01-18-08, 05:34 PM
More mine tricks:
7) Toss them on jeeps that are trying to run you down. It is pretty cool they blow by you and then the mine activates...see yah. If your are good you can occasionally toss one onto a plane as it flies by. It is quite humiliating as a pilot to know you died because some weakling on the ground lobbed a mine onto your plane.
8) Deploy air mines right over enemy planes on the ground. The second they take off the plane blows up. If they get smart and try to shoot the air mine before getting into the plane, the plane usually blows up anyway from the mine blast. Sure, they lived, but now they have to find a new plane:).

snookalo
01-18-08, 10:41 PM
CTF Defense - Flip all jeeps. Instead of blowing them up, take them to a bad spot near your base and flip them. Your guys can still get in them and use them, but if the other guy has the flag it gives you enough time to get over there and grenade him. Also, don't blow up enemy planes and tanks when they bring them up, move them, that way they don't respawn back at their base. Mines. Place them in places where the planes land. If they land in the middle place them there, if they land beside a building, do the same. Also mine the back alleys, people are always trying to sneak up. When you do mine like that, place the mines a little over head high, they never see them. At some point in the game, everyone on your team should have 4 mines down somewhere. It'll frustrate the other team to no end, base mining is great. Don't forget about the air mines either, you can put four of those up and they'll wear 'em out too.

CTF - Offense. Charged Lightning Gun. Use it on the base every time before you go in. You'll get rid of the mines and sometimes kill the opposing guys when you let it go. Warhawks. If you're going after the flag in a warhawk, take someone with you. Then you one of you can stay in the plane and drop missles on them while your guy gets away. Go after the flag. Granted, if you're playing with Matzira then you have no trouble with this, but in games where no one is going after the flag from your team you'll lose. Knife. It's great, they can't see you and you can take the flag before they even know it. Also good for capturing a base.

mbgonzomd
01-19-08, 08:16 AM
Always switch to the knife when capturing a base. You don't want the enemy to know you are there. What they don't know, WILL hurt them.

CHAVAN30
01-19-08, 08:56 AM
geez no wonder ironpaws, kekborg, and mulder_fbi kill me so much when i am on the opposite team. stinkin mines.....:o
my best tip is to run around using the knife. my kill:death ratio is horrible, but i capture lots of spawn points right under the other teams nose.

Kevuda
01-19-08, 01:11 PM
I've only really done it once where it was worth it. But I like to load up my jeep with 4 mines on all the sides, then drive right into the enemy base with it. One time I took out 8 guys and a tank :D

The best part is that if you time it right, you can jump out of the jeep, and it will keep going for a little while into your target (I use this on tanks a lot).

oz727
01-19-08, 02:45 PM
get stealth mode and tow missle - get in front of warhawk coming at you and come out of stealth mode and fire the TOW missle when it's within 80 feet of the opposing warhawk detonate the TOW - the warhawk with blow up instantly - and he'll never know what hit him - it takes alot of practice but once mastered it's very deadly...PSN ID mdavid

mbgonzomd
01-20-08, 08:14 AM
get stealth mode and tow missle - get in front of warhawk coming at you and come out of stealth mode and fire the TOW missle when it's within 80 feet of the opposing warhawk detonate the TOW - the warhawk with blow up instantly - and he'll never know what hit him - it takes alot of practice but once mastered it's very deadly...PSN ID mdavid


I have played this game way too much, but I still did not know you could choose when the TOW detonates. I thought it only detonates when it hit the ground. What button is it? This would be big to hitting drop ships.

oz727
01-20-08, 10:32 AM
oh yeah L1 detonates the missle - I've been kicked out of more servers for blowing up a guys warhawk in mid flight - completley legal - but it sure ticks them off to get killed in one shot - that they didn't even see coming.

mrigsby
01-20-08, 01:17 PM
Here's one I played with last night during ctf, once again I was on a crappy team during Archapelago (sp?) (the worst map to be stuck on a crappy team) and our opps had taken over zone 3. We couldn't move because they had two tanks camped out down there so I had an idea.

I told my teammates to be ready and I went and got the land mines and I attached two to the back of the jeep (thanks whoever gave me this idea) and drove it full speed to the edge. i jumped out and watched at the edge as the jeep flew down to zone 3. Landed right between the tanks and boom, both blew up (the detonation of one caused the other to expload)

My team ran down in force and took back zone three.

I felt like a hero ;)

mbgonzomd
01-20-08, 06:22 PM
I felt like a hero ;)

Worthy of The Presidential Medal of Honor:)

mulder_fbi
01-20-08, 08:14 PM
I've only really done it once where it was worth it. But I like to load up my jeep with 4 mines on all the sides, then drive right into the enemy base with it. One time I took out 8 guys and a tank :D

The best part is that if you time it right, you can jump out of the jeep, and it will keep going for a little while into your target (I use this on tanks a lot).

OMG!!! I'M GONNA DO THAT!!! LOL

kurtkbee
01-20-08, 08:39 PM
I've only really done it once where it was worth it. But I like to load up my jeep with 4 mines on all the sides, then drive right into the enemy base with it. One time I took out 8 guys and a tank :D

.....

Any luck with your 17 virgins yet ? :D :D :p

But i know what you mean, sometimes you have a bastard in a tank that killed you 3 times and is rampaging your base and nothing makes you feel better than killing him by doing some kamikaze sh!t, worth the -1.

PSN-ID: kurtkbee75

mulder_fbi
01-20-08, 10:24 PM
Warhawk Defensive Tips:

Don't Fly Naked! Always have chaff. Never go into battle without one. Disengage if you used your last one.

Don't fly with one shoe on! Always have 2 chaffs.

Always carry stealth. It's easier to run away if they can't see you. Plus they can't lock missile if they do see you (unless the lock started before you went stealth).

Let them follow the miner. Lay air mines when being chased. Circle back past your mines a couple times and you will get them eventually.

Tunnel Cover. Practice flying into/thru tunnels at high speed. It doesn't always shake them off but it's sure cool when it does..

Cloud Cover. Fly into a cloud and hit triangle to come to a complete stop. Since the enemy is tracking you with his eyes and not his radar, you might lose him. This prolly won't work too often though. :)

Cliff Cover. With default flight control, turbo to the top of a hill or terrain, then use the right stick to do a downward loop on the other side of the terrain. Before you loop into the terrain, hit triangle to come to a stop. Locked missiles will hit the terrain and the enemy will often fly pass you. Get 'em from behind!

Cliff Cover Special. If you perform a cliff cover and the enemy stops in front of you, hit 'em with the TOW missile or electricity missile.

TXBDan
01-21-08, 01:02 PM
I just got this game last night and i have some noob questions:

Whats the deal w/ everyone running around w/ knives sneaking up and killing me every minute? I tried it myself and its pretty easy. seems kinda cheap.

How do you activate "pro mode" in the warhawk? I discovered "non hover mode" today and it was glorious. baha

Where can i find some info on all the warhawk weapons and what they are and how to use them?

How does "locking on" targets work? seems like i can do w/ w/ the pistol. is it only the pistol? i guess i get em in my sights, start shooting, and as long as i keep shooting itll hold on em? Does this work flying the warhawk? i can barely hit anything.

What are these land mines you guys are talking about? I only see grenades..

Thanks

mrigsby
01-21-08, 01:19 PM
First off, welcome to the glorious war torn world of Warhawk

Second,

Did you download the game or purchase a hard copy. If you have a hard copy your manual will explain most of that.

www.warhawkaddict.com is a great site


Rifle and Hand guns lock as does knife. You're only getting knifed because you are new, once you have a good idea of how to play, you'll rarely get knife because you'll rarely be stadning still.


Pro mode in the warhawk is under the options menu. In game hit start go to controller options and check Pro Flight...it takes a while to get used to but once you do you'll love it. It takes a lot more skill to get away from missles with pro flight than default.


To lock on missle, hold down the L1 (I think, it's second nature now) when approaching an opponent.

splinters
01-21-08, 01:20 PM
hehe, welcome to warhawk Noob! :) j/k, but this is all about learning curve.

1) Knifing is popular because it offers stealth and it's a one-swing-one-kill weapon, very nice when sneaking into enemy bases.

2) pro-mode is an option, it makes the Warhawk more manuverable, but it is harder to dodge missles since you don't have the auto-dodge built-in like the default mode. Hover and flight mode remain the same, just the controls are different for flight mode.

3) I would recommend mastering ground combat before venturing too far into Warhawks, but if you must, fly around each map solo with no one else in the game and figure out where all the power-ups are. You will notice colored weapons floating in the air that you can pick-up (green for swarms, purple for air mines, blue for lightning gun).

4) locking on works only on the rifle (blue weapon). If you get a red box while armed with the rifle, it will auto-aim for you when you start firing. If your locking on with the missle launcher or any of the warhawk missles, you need to hold down the button while your weapon acquires a lock (you will see a diamond come together and the beeping of target lock switch to a constant tone). Let go and the locked weapon will fire.

5) Land mines are great, look for pink mines floating around that you can pick up, great for guarding locations where you think the enemy will walk/run past.

Hope that helps!

mulder_fbi
01-21-08, 01:28 PM
I actually believe one should master the warhawk first. Control the sky, control the war.

kekborg
01-21-08, 02:45 PM
I actually believe one should master the warhawk first. Control the sky, control the war.

That's how I did it (although in my case I use the term "master" loosley). Main reason was I liked to fly the warhawk. Once I got pretty good at that, I found a whole new love for the game in the ground vehicles and hand to hand combat. I would break down the learning curve from my perspective as this:

1. just try to stay alive. (about a week)
2. just try and get kills. (about a month...not intrested in ranking up at this point)
3. really work as a team player and try to get points. (cautious eye on rank and what I need next as far as points or badges/awards)

If you can get past the frustration of the first couple of weeks, this game will become an addiction :eek:

ss396s
01-21-08, 07:22 PM
Mines again:

It takes 3 mine to take out a full health drop ship. I have done it a couple times. They came to low and I kept flipping mines on it. You can only toss one every two or 3 seconds like some of the other weapons.

I have used the jeep trick a few times too. Two mines on a jeep. Look for the opposing tank; head for it and jump out. I don't always get out in time. Sometimes I am driving full speed and realize too late there is an enemy on foot. Were both dead. Or I forget and try to run him over. Bad choice,
Where are the mines in the Omega Map. I have not found them. Well I have found some the opposing team put out.

I am not too good in the warhawk, but I have dropped an air mine when someone was chasing me. Boom !. It works pretty well with a head on attack. Shoot with guns, head straight for the other plane and drop a mine. It is hard to see behind you. Boom.

ss396s
01-21-08, 07:32 PM
BTW. Has anyone figured out the drop ship glitch. In one game a guy was flying it underground. You could see it on the map, but could not kill it. You could see the way the guns were firing, that it was underground. Everyone was complaining about this guy and no one could kill him.

kurtkbee
01-21-08, 08:05 PM
HEY guys, guess what , last night i killed a low hovering transport gunship with 2 land mines, coolest thing i did so far.
Serves them right i was almost a goner also , it was just pity they did not hear me laughing like a madman after i blew them up :D:D

mulder_fbi
01-21-08, 11:27 PM
Can you put mines on a jeep, pick it up with the drop ship, then drop it in the enemy base?

I personally dont like the drop ship. Too often my teammates are all wasting time trying to get into the drop ship only to get all killed, rinse, repeat.

mbgonzomd
01-22-08, 08:34 AM
Sometimes I am driving full speed and realize too late there is an enemy on foot. Were both dead. Or I forget and try to run him over. Bad choice.

So that was you:D. Last night some joker ran into me when I was on foot with his jeep with a land mine on it. Kind of defeats the purpose from my perspective.


Where are the mines in the Omega Map.



The base right next to your teams main base. Located next to the missile turret.

I too have down a drop ship by tossing land mines. It is very gratifying.

Another warhawk tip: When using swarm missiles, just lock one on to the enemy and then release it. He will use his chaff to protect himself. Now he is chaff-less, so lock on multiple missiles and fire. In other words, there is no sense wasting 6 missiles on him is he is going to chaff them.

kekborg
01-22-08, 10:11 AM
I think this has already been said on one of the replies, but wanted to stress it. Make sure you are capturing bases! If the other team gets all bases and your team can only re-spawn at the flag, your screwed. If this does happen, more then likely your team will be trying to get the closest base back (usually without any luck). Jump in a jeep and try to slip past all the action to capture a base somewhere else (and continue to do this with other bases). At some point, the other team will see what is happening and try and get the other bases back (now you have a chance of getting your closest base back...or a shot at their flag :D). If you get killed in a base other then the main base, try to re-spawn there before they get it. If successful, hide until they are gone (if it's only one guy in a tank or such), then sneak in and get the base back.

mulder_fbi
01-22-08, 02:07 PM
Another warhawk tip: When using swarm missiles, just lock one on to the enemy and then release it. He will use his chaff to protect himself. Now he is chaff-less, so lock on multiple missiles and fire. In other words, there is no sense wasting 6 missiles on him is he is going to chaff them.

If you "know" the missiles locked on you are swarm missles (like when the enemy just took off from a spawn and obviously doesnt have yellow missiles), dont even use chaff. Take the little damage while locking your yellow missile on him.

mrigsby
01-22-08, 05:11 PM
Ok, here's what I've been doing in a warhawk.

When someone is behind me, I immediately swithc to strafe (if that's what it's called) I use it and then immediately move to stealth mode (always, and I mean always have this)

After I switch to stealth mode I eaither dive up or dive down and press triangle to stop your thrust. My opp stops for two seconds to try and locate me. That gives me time to orient myself and then when he gives up to move in for a new target I come up behind using boost and hit him with machine guns blazing, release one swarm...and then lock on with homing missle and boom! end of opp



To give you an idea of how effective this tactic is if you use it correctly.

Between september and last week, I had little over 300 kills with a warhawk. I know have over 1400 (all on level 4 and 5 servers)

Granted, if I face you guys now you'll know one of my tricks, but remember, it's only one of my tricks ;)

splinters
01-22-08, 05:25 PM
Hey mrigsby,

Any tips for how to throw grenades? I notice that I'm pretty piss-poor compared to most of the lvl 2 guys I'm facing....

-Splints99

mrigsby
01-22-08, 05:33 PM
Splints,

When in amachine gun fight with another person on foot and you want to use a grenade. Aim low at his feet while backing up, most players will move forward, throw a hand grenade (while aiming at his feet) and he'll walk into it almost every time.


If you aim at the midsection instead of his feet the grenade will land behind him causing little to no damage.

Also, if you don't have agrenade but have a rockt launcher, do the exact smae thing.

It takes a while to to get the hang of aiming quickly, but the auto lock on the machine gun helps - Aim while firing, that way you will stay centered as you lower your aim

ss396s
01-22-08, 05:35 PM
When someone is behind me, I immediately switch to strafe (if that's what it's
ks ;)

What do you mean by strafe? What controller buttons? Or do you mean drop chafe?

mrigsby
01-22-08, 05:45 PM
chafe yes, I'm bad with names like that. I know what it does and I'm very effective with it but I don't know what it's called - sorry ;)

mbgonzomd
01-22-08, 05:47 PM
(all on level 4 and 5 servers)




I will show my ignorance here, what is a level 4 or 5 server? I typically just pick a blue (ranked game) from the join games menu (don't use the filter). Does this mean I am playing against a lot of nobs and that is why I am the terminator???:D

mrigsby
01-22-08, 05:50 PM
Level 4 and 5 are where the more experienced players are. As you rank up, it no longer allows you to enter games on the lower servers because that's where people of less experience plays.

When you look at a server list, as you get higher there will be ones marked with a green dot and a red dot. The greens you can enter, the reds you are ranked to high.


At the end of the server name it will indivate "lv3" or "lv4" - levels are based on rank - so, by process of elimination, the more experienced (no necesarrily better) players are in the higher level servers.

splinters
01-22-08, 06:25 PM
Splints,

When in amachine gun fight with another person on foot and you want to use a grenade. Aim low at his feet while backing up, most players will move forward, throw a hand grenade (while aiming at his feet) and he'll walk into it almost every time.


If you aim at the midsection instead of his feet the grenade will land behind him causing little to no damage.

Also, if you don't have agrenade but have a rockt launcher, do the exact smae thing.

It takes a while to to get the hang of aiming quickly, but the auto lock on the machine gun helps - Aim while firing, that way you will stay centered as you lower your aim

Good tips, thanks. The other one I have been working on is the "zone duel" where you are going head-to-head with one other guy around a zone to gain control. (usually in the first 20 seconds of a round)

Usually what I try and do is to throw a grenade to one side of the flag and then come out the other side with the rifle blazing. This is a bit like classic FPS one-on-one combat, but I can't seem to aim very well to throw grenades to the side ahead of the dueler. I've had some mixed luck by stopping my rifle fire and tossing a grenade ahead of them, but it seems like letting go of my fire tips them off more often than not.

Anyways, grenades can be great at tilting a battle in your direction and hopefully I can learn to master it as well. :)

-Splints

mrigsby
01-22-08, 06:43 PM
Here's what I do during zones fights.

I'll shoot twice to get his attention. Then back up while shooting - don't move from side to side, let him react..9 times out of 10 he'll follow you out and run right into your granade.

Just remember that if people think they have you on the defensive, they'll move in for the kill before going back to gain the zone - People go for blood when they think they have the chance


Use a rocket launcher or a flame thrower if you have one.

splinters
01-22-08, 06:58 PM
good ideas on tactics, thanks!

-Splints

kekborg
01-24-08, 10:50 AM
Wanted to thank everyone who contributed feedback on this thread. Because of this thread, I was able to pick up some tactics and strategies that allowed me to take the game to a new level. Just yesterday, I was in a ctf game where I was the #1 player with a personal high score of 136 points (this without any flag pull/plants...which is great for me). We ended up loosing that game though :(.

If your new to warhawk, I would suggest you read through this thread.

FenixP3D
01-24-08, 11:02 AM
i've learned a thing or two here and helped a lot last night... usually could not get more than 10 points per map... now i'm getting 15 to 20 per now...

mulder_fbi
01-24-08, 11:15 AM
i've learned a thing or two here and helped a lot last night... usually could not get more than 10 points per map... now i'm getting 15 to 20 per now...

Increase your points per map by capturing enemy spawns. It's the easiest 4 points in the game and helps the overall war campaign. :)

mulder_fbi
01-24-08, 11:22 AM
More Warhawk Defensive Tips.

If you need to flee from an enemy warhawk, turn around a corner and hit triangle for a complete stop. When the enemy comes around and stops too, turbo away towards the ground and get out of the plane. You will totally leave his radar and lose him. Get back in the plane when the cost is clear. :)

I usually tell ppl that the homing missile lock, turbo combo is unstoppable (somewhat true, somewhat mulder propaganda :) ). One way to avoid it is to fly with the mini map on (hit the "Select" button). I basically use that as long range radar to see if someone is following me.

mrigsby
01-24-08, 11:26 AM
Did you do that to me last night? There were two times I was following you very closely, I had hit you a couple times with some missles. You went around a tower and I lost you...I assumed you hit stealth and used the corner to hide where you went.

mulder_fbi
01-24-08, 11:39 AM
Did you do that to me last night? There were two times I was following you very closely, I had hit you a couple times with some missles. You went around a tower and I lost you...I assumed you hit stealth and used the corner to hide where you went.


I did it at least once. I don't know who was about to kill me. :)

One time I was flying naked (without chaff) and someone was attacking me. I did a couple of S loops to get high, then I turbo'd to the ground. I think this was near the chaff tower in the upper right corner of the map.

I used stealth for the most part last night since no one was guarding them. :cool:

so's your face
01-24-08, 05:20 PM
for recon activities like flag grabbing and escaping, always have 6 nades and 4 mines. when approaching toss nades at the enemy mines and and when you clear 'em out and grab the flag, toss mines as you run away. or plat the mines along your escape route and get to it as quickly as possible.
your escape should always be to a jeep and rarely a tank because jeeps are much easier to manuever when you have a hawk on top of you. plus the speed is very important. and if you are able to, always head in the direction of a nearby spawn when you initially grab the flag even if it takes you out of the way at first. you need to get it need friendlies so that saving it is much tougher for the other team.
also, if you're really stealthy, get into the enemy's main base and plant mines on as many of their hawks as you can. it'll make them second guess going into the air for a bit...

mrigsby
01-24-08, 05:24 PM
I've never heard them called "nades" but I guess you can call them what you want during a tea bag session

mulder_fbi
01-24-08, 05:27 PM
I've never heard them called "nades" but I guess you can call them what you want during a tea bag session

lol

mbgonzomd
01-28-08, 11:44 AM
For the Gods of the sky:

I have been trying to fly in the Pro mode recently. I like it, but I have trouble evading missles. I was pretty easy in the non-pro mode, just hit the right stick and you do some swirls. Is there a technique for evading missles in the Pro mode?

Auditor_Kevin
01-28-08, 11:48 AM
......and how do you avoid missles via the power slide (in the default flying mode)????

so's your face
01-28-08, 11:53 AM
I've never heard them called "nades" but I guess you can call them what you want during a tea bag session

i'll remember that next time we're on opposite sides and i have to nade-bag you!! :D

mrigsby
01-28-08, 11:56 AM
mbgonzomd,

Pro mode is pretty simple and you don't become disoriented.

There are to methods, when someone locks on to you, hit boost and move the left analog side to side rapidly. The smoother your movements, the more missles will loose lock. I'm not as good without boost, but it does work.

Or, you can move both sticks up and down rapidly while hitting boost.

(Also, an terrain you can use will help as well)


I find that the left analog side to side allows you more time to recover and turn the tide of the fight.

But, when using pro flight mode, you need to stock up on two things..chaffe and stealth.

If someone's behind you and locks on, use chaffe - hit boost and move the left analog side to side hit stealth....You'll effectively get away....

Watch out for the really good pilots who will follow you in stealth - those are the ones you really have to watch out for. They'll keep a lock on you while are in stealth to keep track of your movements....Use cloud cover or terrain to have them loose you

mrigsby
01-28-08, 12:00 PM
Kevin,

Powersliding in the open doesn't allow you to evade missles unless you use a building, terrain or bridge to go around.


In default mode, you need to utilize both the left and right stick to dive or ascend with spinning and using your chaffe.

But, a good pilot will be able to follow you easily.....when someone does that, I stealth and wait for them to finish their loop de loops, it makes them feel like I've left out of frustration.


Then I switch to a homing missle, lock on and machine gun fire....and boost again - I'll be super close when I release the homing missle. The MG fire had weakened them enough that the missle will destroy them and you'll be too close for them to loop out of the way.

Remember, if you're too close, you could take some damage from the explosion of the homing missle/Enemy's Warhawk so make sure your healthed up

mbgonzomd
01-28-08, 12:20 PM
......and how do you avoid missiles via the power slide (in the default flying mode)????

In default mode just hit the right analog stick as you increase your altitude. You end up doing a cork screw and it will loose the smaller missiles (hand rocket launcher, or swarm missiles). With the ground turret missiles or homing missile, you are still screwed with this maneuver.

I guess I have just not figured how to duplicate this maneuver in the pro mode.

mrigsby
01-28-08, 12:24 PM
mbgonzomd,

You can't duplicate this maneuver in pro flight, the only way to shake missles without using stealth, chaffe or terrain is to rapidly move your left analoge stick back and forth while boosting.

dharman07
01-28-08, 12:51 PM
Hey guys,
I just got a PS3 and Warhawk. Id really like to hook up with you all and play some games. I dont know if you are on an advanced rank server for your Wednesday meetings or not. Do you have a low ranked server for us newbies? If so, what is the server name, and how do I get an invite?

Thanks!

Dharman
(PSN ID is DiggityDug)

mrigsby
01-28-08, 01:00 PM
dharmon,

Go to the Warhawk Clans thread, if Matzira has space, he'll send an invite

mulder_fbi
01-28-08, 01:14 PM
Welcome, Dharman.

If you play with the AVS guys, you should be fine playing on the higher level servers. I say this because you can at least benefit from the strategy and communication of your comrades. There are always newbies and moderate players on those servers from what I can tell.

Just follow these rules and you will get good in no time:

1. Capture Spawns First, Fight or Capture Flags Second. Nothing is worse than trying to fight out of one spawn!!!

2. Capturing enemy spawns is the easiest 4 points you will earn in the game.

3. You should be attacking or dying every few seconds. ;) If mintues go by and you are not engaging the enemy, change your strategy.

4. Have fun.

bplewis24
01-28-08, 02:38 PM
On the Island Outpost map....there is a hill right in front of the bunker where your team's jeep and tanks are housed. On top of that hill is a place for Warhawks to restock their strafes.

Place a mine right under that strafe sign....Warhawkls fly low enough to get caught by the mine. Doesn't always work but it helps with a kill every now and then.

That's just dirty. :)

Brandon

kekborg
01-28-08, 03:55 PM
Here is another one (not sure if it has been brought up yet). Those barrels you see in the game will explode if shot at, grenade, etc. If you see an enemy tank or person by them, blow the barrels up first. If it doesn't take them out, it will leave them with little life...

serversurfer
01-28-08, 04:01 PM
4. Have fun.
I like how this is the lowest priority. :p

bplewis24
01-28-08, 04:08 PM
Here is another one (not sure if it has been brought up yet). Those barrels you see in the game will explode if shot at, grenade, etc. If you see an enemy tank or person by them, blow the barrels up first. If it doesn't take them out, it will leave them with little life...

That's why I can be seen in the beginning of any match blowing up every single barrel or destructible object at the base I'm currently at. It probably looks silly, but the last thing I want is for somebody to shoot and miss me and yet I still die because of the chain reaction from everything that blows up.

Brandon

so's your face
01-28-08, 04:11 PM
I like how this is the lowest priority. :p

[spit water on the floor laughing] :D [/spit water on the floor laughing]

mulder_fbi
01-28-08, 05:53 PM
I like how this is the lowest priority. :p

:o

mbgonzomd
01-29-08, 08:20 AM
Here is another one (not sure if it has been brought up yet). Those barrels you see in the game will explode if shot at, grenade, etc. If you see an enemy tank or person by them, blow the barrels up first. If it doesn't take them out, it will leave them with little life...

Good technique with the sniper rifle. It is a little easier than trying to hit a moving target. Just aim on the barrels and when the enemy walks by...boom

kekborg
01-29-08, 01:57 PM
Here is one more and it relates to the tank. If you are going to be cruising around the neighborhood in a tank, make sure you at least have the flame thrower with you. If you encounter another tank, it really comes down to how ever shoots the first shot will more then likely win. Here is what I do to counter these odds. Ok, so before you get in your tank, make sure the flame thrower is selected as your weapon. When you encounter another tank, take your shots, but get right upon him as quickly as possible. Before he takes the last lethal shot, jump out and scorch him! He goes boom, you get in your tank and find some health :D.

mbgonzomd
01-29-08, 02:03 PM
OT question:
What is the meaning of the bracket before a player's name (example: [SOB]killerman)? Is this a clan reference?

kekborg
01-29-08, 02:08 PM
Yep, that is the clan name. So mine is (avsc)kekborg.

mulder_fbi
01-31-08, 03:31 PM
Zones

1. At game start, don't fly off in a plane without a teammate!!!

2. Capture zones in groups.

3. Shoot spawns before landing on them to avoid getting killed by mines.

4. Capture zones in groups.

5. Have fun.

6. Capture zones in groups.

mbgonzomd
01-31-08, 03:34 PM
when someone is obviously trying to snipe you, run like a break-dancer (ie, jerky motions to the rhythm of the gun reloading). It makes it very hard for them to get a bead on you.

kekborg
01-31-08, 03:37 PM
Zones

1. At game start, don't fly off in a plane without a teammate!!!

2. Capture zones in groups.

3. Shoot spawns before landing on them to avoid getting killed by mines.

4. Capture zones in groups.

5. Have fun.

6. Capture zones in groups.

At first glance, it would seem that have fun moved up the priority list for zones play...until you see that 3 and 6 or a duplicate....:D

Dregun
02-01-08, 02:15 PM
After reading these 4 pages I decided to go ahead and buy Warhawk off of the PSN store. I got around to playing it last night and like a total noob I was getting my ass kicked left and right.

I bought BF2 the first day it came out and got VERY good at it; steadily moved up the ranks with my 203 and was only a few weeks away from being in the top 10 but alas I had too many PC problems and gave up the game. Before that there was Americas Army; still can't play Insurgent Camp without being called a cheater after not playing it for 2 years.

Unfortunatly not having friends with the PS3 AND Warhawk is going to make my learning curve that much harder. With BF2 I could join the squad my friends were on and they would show me around the maps I didn't know, we could orginize attacks and well you get the drift. I'm sure once I start playing WH I will end up getting the same benifits out of it; but as of right now its hard finding a server designed for rookies. I don't mind being blown out of the sky but when the same exact person hunts me down because they know I'm a noob..that kinda erks me. But alas once people are being rated on how many kills they get of course Noobs are the best way to pad your ranking.

I don't like playing any game that requires strategy and team work without being able to communicate with my teammates. So a BT headset is comming my way very quickly. Nothings better then yelling "OpFor spotted at central base, need reinforcements" and watching three strangers meet up and wipe them out!!! Only question I have is it "Push to Talk" or do you hear someone coughing or yelling at thier dog?

So with that said if any of you are playing but feel a little bored and would like to show a noob around please feel free to look me up. I wont be hard to find, actually I might considering 5 seconds minimum before you respawn it might not seem like I'm even in the game!

User ID: Dregun

Vizion47
02-01-08, 02:23 PM
It's push to talk. You hold down L3 to talk.

kekborg
02-01-08, 02:46 PM
Dregun,
Set up a local server and just fly/drive around to learn the maps. Learn where the weapons are and get a feel for them. Use this/these sessions to get used to flying the warhawk as well. I would do this with my kids when I first got in and it helped out immensely.

lvl1 servers are where you want to be (sony...blue ones) or join and unranked server just to get the hang of it (I usually have dm server going in the evenings...although I think I am going to set a rotations of a couple of diff. games going forward). The more you play, the better you'll get...just like the other games you spoke of...

so's your face
02-01-08, 03:23 PM
dregun,
also feel free to send out friend requests to any of us you see in the warhawk threads... "warhawk wednesday" specifically. join up with the wednesday night group and while you may still feel like the new kid in class, we're not out for blood or souls. just fun.

especially if kekborg or bplewis set up the servers again.

mrigsby
02-01-08, 03:46 PM
Wait, you mean I haven't been collecting souls?

Well that just downright sucks!

so's your face
02-01-08, 03:57 PM
they may include that in the next patch!

kekborg
02-06-08, 11:25 AM
Here is one that is implied, but needs to be called out. Communicate. If you have a headset, don't be afraid to give out calls for help, status of the flag, etc...

I was in a game of ctf yesterday (without my headset on...to lazy to walk over to the charger and put it on). We were playing archipelgo (sp?) and quickly lost all zone but the main base :mad:. I kept running a jeep down to get our number one back, but being the only one doing it had no success. Look at the map, our two wh are trying to take on six or seven of the opposing team :confused:. At this point, I'm ready to throw the controller at the wall. Instead, getup, walkover, and put on the headset and start barking off commands..."guys in wh, go get there number 3 base so we can work backwords with getting spawns..." No reply...watching the map, no action. Finally get a warhawk, zoom over to their 3, and capture it. Yell on the mic that I got it, start spawning here (while this is happening, I get smoked). Before I respawn, check the map and see we have guys at #3 running around. Bark off "get the tank and head for the center...". Result, after a couple of seconds, someone gets in the tank and heads for the center. The thing that really sucked about this was I was the only one talking. Long story short, we ended up capturing all the bases (and holding them) by the middle of the game, but never did get a flag plant :mad:.

nolt
02-06-08, 05:44 PM
hey ive got a question.
i know this is supposed to be a tips thread but i suppose i am soliciting a tip... and i dont wanna start a new thread.

i just got the game and im horribly green. my background is in computer gaming and im still adjusting to the controllers... but to the point:

do you guys use tilt to control the warhawk?

it seems like it would be an advantage as far as targeting is concerned...
correct me if im wrong but if you fly with one of the sticks you can only target things pretty much in front of you... correct?
one stick piloting and one stick for rolls and flips?
whereas with tilt you can use one stick for targeting off axis and one stick for rolls/flips...

the reason i ask is because it seems quite a bit easier to fly with the stick but if i can learn with tilt i will try for the added benefit of the better targeting.

thanks for any comment. =]

mrigsby
02-06-08, 06:00 PM
There's two types of controls, pro and default. I use pro and the sticks, I can't stand the Sixaxis.

I know brandond uses tils control...


But, when it pro, you have more leeway with targeting than in normal flight so I don't see an advantage in using the tilt

so's your face
02-07-08, 08:04 AM
the flip side is that i've played against some people who've mastered the tilt and are the deadliest pilots out there.
like you said, it does give you a bit more range with controls but to most it's incredibly tiresome to learn.
there is something to about using the sixaxis that if you can figure it out can make you feared in the sky. that's whay i stick to the ground.

Kess
02-07-08, 01:06 PM
I used the motion controls almost right from the start...and I still suck! :p (Just switched to pro...checked it out about 5 minutes ago...The first thing I noticed is that it's a lot easier on my wrists! Actually, I really don't even take to the sky anymore when I play...which is not very often. Warhawk, just like any other on-line game requires the same amount of time and practice....and I fear I've fallen waaaaaay too far behind the learning curve. 126 games, and only a measly 1.54 KDR is kinda depressing. All I play are DM and TDMs, and I'm kinda getting worn out by getting slaughtered so often.

Any of you guys play in the late afternoons? Except for Rock Band every once in a while, I'm pretty much PS3-wife-restricted to my kids' nap time from 4-5:30.

so's your face
02-07-08, 01:16 PM
you need to play the stress relief card, and the basic human need for social interaction with people you're not related to. convince her that the social interaction of playing is better for you own mental health than sitting with her watching "the biggest loser" or "idol"... it worked for me! :cool:

use that for your foundation and build on it when the inevitable argument arises! :eek:

William Mapstone
02-07-08, 01:33 PM
Originally posted by Kess
Warhawk, just like any other on-line game requires the same amount of time and practice....and I fear I've fallen waaaaaay too far behind the learning curve. 126 games, and only a measly 1.54 KDR is kinda depressing.
your making me feel bad with my 1.12 KDR, LOL. Although I could always blame that on my wife, since we play under the same user ID. yup, it's her fault...LOL

mulder_fbi
02-07-08, 01:49 PM
My KDR is 2.17. :cool:

mbgonzomd
02-07-08, 01:53 PM
I have not looked lately, but I think I am below one ):.

mrigsby
02-07-08, 01:56 PM
your making me feel bad with my 1.12 KDR, LOL. Although I could always blame that on my wife, since we play under the same user ID. yup, it's her fault...LOL

So, your wife plays with SandyVgina as well? That makes me giggle for some reason

mrigsby
02-07-08, 01:57 PM
I had a 1.75 KDR yesterday, then I got into games with some of the best players I've ever seen and it went down to 1.69 and now it's back up to 1.70

Kess
02-07-08, 02:34 PM
As a tip to improve KDRs, I would highly recommend playing all together as a clan more often. I seem to remember you guys saying you prefer to shy away from Game Battles because it's not as casual, but trust me, there's a lot of pretty lax/easy-going clans out there to go up against.

One thing playing together as a clan does is heighten your game by about 100%. Game Battles make you feel like every kill is momentous. It also brings you closer together with your clan mates. Instead of killing each other, you bond in your commitment of helping each other. The tips and tricks you seem to be learning apart, become a melting pot of a more united force. It's pretty cool going into matches with people you respect all the time, too. And after a while, once everyone settles into their roles, you become a SIGNIFICANTLY more efficient killing machine than just a bunch of random guys meandering around together.

The key is respect. Win or lose, doesn't matter. Playing together with a bunch of guys who will always have your back, and NEVER get pissed off at you if you get killed too many times in a round is the most important part. It would seem like you guys already have respect for each other in abundance.

Bring on the GBs to make yourself better, is the best tip I can come up with. Part of the reason why I'm struggling so much is that in all those 126 games, I haven't once yet played with the same guys twice.

so's your face
02-07-08, 03:45 PM
you need to come play some time!

kekborg
02-07-08, 03:57 PM
you need to come play some time!

Pester, you really should. Hell, if for nothing else then the opportunity to get "tea bagged" by Matzira...I am actually laughing as I am typing this...f#$@ that was funny.

so's your face
02-07-08, 04:11 PM
i'm still giggling like a school girl about that...

kess, you gotta get off the frustrating TDMs and come do a high intensity CTF with the crew!
show 'em how we SAHD's roll! you know i got your back!

kekborg
02-07-08, 04:31 PM
As a tip to improve KDRs, I would highly recommend playing all together as a clan more often.

Kess,
I whole heartedly agree with you on this. The problems is we are getting a slew of guys playing as of late (which is awesome). If we could find someone that could host a 32 player match, it would not be a be a problem. Last night, at one point, I think we had all 16 spots filled. I do find myself through the week/weekend looking for and joining games my fellow clan mates are in and then making sure I'm on their team. As you say, its nice because you have a pretty good idea what they are going to be doing and hopefully they of you.

mrigsby
02-07-08, 05:11 PM
iyou know i got your back!


Or at least the area between your eyes and scalp


As far as GB go, most of those are usually 4 on 4 or 6 on 6

Kess
02-07-08, 06:00 PM
Pester, you really should. Hell, if for nothing else then the opportunity to get "tea bagged" by Matzira...I am actually laughing as I am typing this...f#$@ that was funny.

I've played with Matzira twice before...maybe three times. And each time he's puzzled me. Tea Bagging I can handle. I've tasted the bitter, salty blend of many a dunked tea. As for Matzira, never mind tea bagging, I think he's afraid to kill me! Maybe he thinks I'm going to have a nervous breakdown, or something. In his defense, I usually do a lot of howling. And gnashing of teeth when I play.

I can think of one time that was especially obvious he was trying to avoid hurting my feelings. Or was he? I don't think I'll ever know. There I am on the new map, at the spawn base by the homing turret. I have both the far back ladder and near front ladder mined, plus the side walls by the ramp. (The only ways by foot onto the platforms.) I get about 5 kills in a row with the mines from guys climbing up to get me. I hop down to the mine respawn right below me, rinse lather and repeat. Anyway, I re-mine the ladders...the strategy is working pretty well for me. (I think after the game Matzira tells me "Nice, mine placements."...not sure, must have got him one time.)

Anyway, I'm also getting homing turret kills, as well as rocket launcher kills, so I've also had to dodge a few TOW missels...but I've been very careful to replant the mines each time. Then out of the corner of my eye, I see this flash run right by me! Huh?...What in the world....Oh, crap, it's Matzira! How the hell did he get past the mines??!! (I heard no explosions.) It was like he honestly just appeared out of NOWHERE!! Ok, fine...but why didn't he stab me as literally ran by me shoulder to shoulder???? It's just him and me alone on the platform, and he's running away chucking mines! Feeling like I'm in the special Olympics all of a sudden, I sigh, and pull out my machine gun. I begin the chase, swinging wide of his mine placements, while shooting him in the back. And I kill him.

And just as I begin to feel again like he's just let me, I let my guard down, do a quick turn-a-round, and step on one of his bloody mines!! Jesus! He somehow surrounded me with them!!! Matzira likes to play I see! :p I thought mines disappeared once you died? Or was it that fast after I killed him that I stepped on one? Anyway, there wasn't much left of my teabags after that one. I still think he let me off the hook. Another time he hovered above my tank in a Warhawk for like 5 minutes before I just gave up trying to hit him and drove off! He's also a little dodgy with his advice and tips. I asked him how the stealth worked with the plane last week, and he said he had no idea. It's sketchy, sneaky guys like that who make you wanna try and be on their side at all costs! :p Speaking of which...


Kess,
I whole heartedly agree with you on this. The problems is we are getting a slew of guys playing as of late (which is awesome). If we could find someone that could host a 32 player match, it would not be a be a problem. Last night, at one point, I think we had all 16 spots filled. I do find myself through the week/weekend looking for and joining games my fellow clan mates are in and then making sure I'm on their team. As you say, its nice because you have a pretty good idea what they are going to be doing and hopefully they of you.

The best clans usually have a few too many guys. You never know when people aren't going to be able to make it. What my clan usually does (in RFoM), or when I was with them, is have about 3 GBs a night, and just rotate the guys. Usually, though, it was whoever was there who'd play. Often times, the best GBs were 5 vs 5. You wouldn't have to play that frequently throughout the week, though. Even just once a week, you could arrange to face three or four different clans, of varying numbers. For more frequent play throughout the week, all you need are a few leaders who can accept the challenges and manage the GB site. The object being to play with the same guys, people you like, over and over.

so's your face
02-07-08, 10:21 PM
like i posted before, i have a hard time killing clan mates and buddies, so you were definitely off the hook. also, i'm not really the killing type, but rather the sneak up on you tap your shoulder and challenge you to try to kill me if you can. but don't underestimate the sneakyness! ;)
plus, i try to play it low key. if i do something well, i always assume the next guy can do it better so i just try to keep up...

it would have been different if we were able to communicate cross in that match, but since we can't, i like to play with my food... before devouring it! :cool:

i think you really would enjoy some of the games we get going... especially last night's games were great as usual. lots of chatter and a good time.

bplewis24
02-07-08, 11:31 PM
As a tip to improve KDRs, I would highly recommend playing all together as a clan more often.

That's what I would prefer to do but I think the majority are against it.

Brandon

mrigsby
02-08-08, 12:28 AM
I'm not against it at all....

so's your face
02-08-08, 02:39 AM
you guys figure out a game plan and i'm game for whatever...

i have no problem letting the inmates run the asylum! :p

Kess
02-08-08, 08:16 AM
I'm up for whatever, too. I think Game Battling with you guys would be very cool. And So's Your Face...I can see how you'd be a fun guy to play with. Even that time we got slaughtered in RFoM together was memorable. Haha.

Catch up with you guys on Monday. Now someone sign us up on Game Battles, already!!! :p

mbgonzomd
02-08-08, 09:00 AM
Game Battling...so there is a way you can set up games so that we are all on one team and we play against another team? If so, sounds cool to me.

cooper1010
02-08-08, 09:45 AM
Game Battling...so there is a way you can set up games so that we are all on one team and we play against another team? If so, sounds cool to me.

i thought the latest wh firmaware allowed for clan vs clan or clan only team games to be set up, no?!

cooper1010
02-08-08, 09:47 AM
i got on last night after finally adding some of you as "buddies." how come alotta you guys aren't listed as clan members? most say "avs" or "avsc" before their name, but some of you guys don't (i think i remember brandon's did not; i can't remember who else).

bplewis24
02-08-08, 10:38 AM
I'm not against it at all....

It seems like the majority preferred a password-locked room instead of a clan server, so that folks not in our clan(s) could get into the rooms. But this necessitates that people can't choose which side they want to be on and opens up the possibility for team-balancing which it seems most prefer.

Brandon

kekborg
02-08-08, 10:45 AM
It seems like the majority preferred a password-locked room instead of a clan server, so that folks not in our clan(s) could get into the rooms. But this necessitates that people can't choose which side they want to be on and opens up the possibility for team-balancing which it seems most prefer.

Brandon

My preferance would be to do a clan server so we can play together as a team. The problem with my server is I can only host 16, of which only 8 spots could be dedicated to our clan (and as of late, we have had 14+ clan members playing at any one time.

Brandon, I think you said you could host 20? Maybe for next Wed, you host and we try a "clan" server...that would get at least 10 of us on the same team. I believe that if you don't specify the other clan, anyone can join on that side (or we find another clan to do battle with...)

It would be nice if sony would set up specific servers (that could host 32 players) so none of this would be an issue....

At any rate, I'm open to anything....

bplewis24
02-08-08, 12:12 PM
My preferance would be to do a clan server so we can play together as a team. The problem with my server is I can only host 16, of which only 8 spots could be dedicated to our clan (and as of late, we have had 14+ clan members playing at any one time.

Brandon, I think you said you could host 20? Maybe for next Wed, you host and we try a "clan" server...that would get at least 10 of us on the same team. I believe that if you don't specify the other clan, anyone can join on that side (or we find another clan to do battle with...)

It would be nice if sony would set up specific servers (that could host 32 players) so none of this would be an issue....

At any rate, I'm open to anything....

My suggestion would be to try it on another night other than wednesday. Most of our guys who may not even pay close attention to these boards know we will be on Wednesday and show up. They may not set aside any other time throughout the week, but it seems like a significant part of our crew (you, paws, matz, and a few others) tend to be on randomly throughout other parts of the week.

Other clans probably don't care what night it's on, so if we set something up we can meet on a Sunday, Monday, Thursday, whatever, and end up closer to 8 on 8 or 10 on 10. The trick is to get people to line up against us. So either the other clan has to be planning to show up or it would be left open allowing anybody to join in but just making sure we invite some people to the party.

I can pretty much set up a server any night of the week if it's planned for. I'm a single bachelor so I pretty much make my own schedule :)

Brandon

so's your face
02-08-08, 12:21 PM
My suggestion would be to try it on another night other than wednesday. Most of our guys who may not even pay close attention to these boards know we will be on Wednesday and show up. They may not set aside any other time throughout the week, but it seems like a significant part of our crew (you, paws, matz, and a few others) tend to be on randomly throughout other parts of the week.

Other clans probably don't care what night it's on, so if we set something up we can meet on a Sunday, Monday, Thursday, whatever, and end up closer to 8 on 8 or 10 on 10.

I can pretty much set up a server any night of the week if it's planned for. I'm a single bachelor so I pretty much make my own schedule :)

Brandon

i agree, wednesday should be saved for a pass protected avs night since that's the intention of having WW.

if burnout is happening on mondays, then that gives 5 other nights for a clan specific battles. i'd totally be up for that.

mrigsby
02-08-08, 12:53 PM
I'll probably miss a few nights, I do have a business to run - sort of :cool:

so's your face
02-08-08, 01:00 PM
lame paws, lame!
excuses are like buttholes. everybody has one and they all stink!:eek::D

IowaWigman
02-14-08, 10:35 PM
Thanks for the tips guys. I just picked up Warhawk at Target today since it was only $39.99 with a headset. I hopped on for 30 minutes tonight and proceeded to get slaughtered. Good times though. I'll have to log quite a few hours tomorrow to try and get the hang of this thing.

so's your face
02-15-08, 08:18 AM
remember kekborg's key advice... if you're not the top player by the second game, you're not trying hard enough!!!:D

oh, and mulder_fbi's rule #8: have fun...

so's your face
02-15-08, 08:25 AM
remember kekborg's key advice... if you're not the top player by the second game, you're not trying hard enough!!!:D

oh, and mulder_fbi's rule #8: have fun...

if you want to join up on wednesdays or any other nights, send out some friend requests to any of the guys on the warhawk threads and feel free to join any games any of us are playing in. most everyone's weilling to answer any questions and help you out, and ironpaws will haze you with his warhawk. join the wednesday game for a fun relaxed game with the guys who post here. no foul mouthed kids, just a lot of ,"OH COME ON!" "WHAT THE...?" "YOU CHEATER!" but that's just ironpaws! :D:eek::p:D

kekborg
02-15-08, 10:06 AM
no foul mouthed kids, just a lot of ,"OH COME ON!" "WHAT THE...?" "YOU CHEATER!" but that's just ironpaws! :D:eek::p:D

You forgot "bow chicka a wa wa" and a deep analysis how every kill "against" him was cheap and the system must be glitching :D.

The important question, though, is are you a Cyclone or Hawkeye? The answer will either help or hinder your kill/death ratio...

IowaWigman
02-15-08, 02:46 PM
You forgot "bow chicka a wa wa" and a deep analysis how every kill "against" him was cheap and the system must be glitching :D.

The important question, though, is are you a Cyclone or Hawkeye? The answer will either help or hinder your kill/death ratio...

Black and gold man.

kekborg
02-15-08, 02:53 PM
Black and gold man.

Big ten, good for you (personally, I hang in the the big 12).

So what are your thoughts on buckeyes?

xmafro
02-15-08, 03:02 PM
Big ten, good for you (personally, I hang in the the big 12).

So what are your thoughts on buckeyes?

Well Kevin, they are big trees. That is my thought on buckeyes...Thanks for asking:)

so's your face
02-15-08, 03:25 PM
Big ten, good for you (personally, I hang in the the big 12).

So what are your thoughts on buckeyes?

unfair! that's a loaded question!

what are your thoughts on:
A) buckeyes?
B) cornhuskers?
C) which conference do you pull for during bowl season?

answer honosetly, but carefully!
;):D

mrigsby
02-15-08, 03:32 PM
You forgot "bow chicka a wa wa" and a deep analysis how every kill "against" him was cheap and the system must be glitching :D.

The important question, though, is are you a Cyclone or Hawkeye? The answer will either help or hinder your kill/death ratio...

Cheap and cheating is the only way you guys can kill me.


Playing with you AVS is like playign with Kekborgs kids...wait, I do play with kekborgs kids



Just remember, every AVSc member is a cheater except me. I'm the only one with legit kills :D

kekborg
02-15-08, 03:43 PM
Playing with you AVS is like playign with Kekborgs kids...wait, I do play with kekborgs kids


IronPaws, you are a legend in my household as far as the kids are concerned! I'm not allowed to fly in a game if your on the opposing side...really, they freak out and cause me to freak out "dad, get on the ground, paws is playing...quick dad...he's probably coming at you right now..." :eek:.

kekborg
02-15-08, 03:45 PM
unfair! that's a loaded question!

what are your thoughts on:
A) buckeyes?
B) cornhuskers?
C) which conference do you pull for during bowl season?

answer honosetly, but carefully!
;):D

I was hoping we would get an answer before you picked up on this :D.

kekborg
02-15-08, 03:49 PM
Well Kevin, they are big trees. That is my thought on buckeyes...Thanks for asking:)

You have a dog. Does your dog pee on trees like these?

xmafro
02-15-08, 04:09 PM
No, she's female. Just squats anywhere.

kekborg
02-15-08, 04:59 PM
No, she's female. Just squats anywhere.

Your good...real good...;)

jojo311
02-15-08, 10:38 PM
No word on when it will be out, but here's some info on the v1.3 patch. The highlights are two new ground troop devices: a bio-field generator for restoring ally health/depleting enemy health and a wrench for repairing vehicles (but can also be used for damaging opponents). Gotta love the ongoing support.

http://blog.us.playstation.com/2008/02/15/warhawk-v13-patch/

snookalo
02-15-08, 11:25 PM
maybe they'll adjust the points back...eh matzira? Oh, and you all know the SEC is the dominant force in the NCAA....I think Matzira can also attest to this point. ;)

so's your face
02-16-08, 02:40 AM
don't get me started on thje point system! :mad:

and the SEC is a fad... they've been good for 10 years. it'll fade away. and when ohio state lands pryor, forget it, South East Cheaters watch out! :p

bplewis24
02-16-08, 11:49 AM
Heh ...don't get me started.

Brandon

mrigsby
02-16-08, 03:06 PM
Phi Slamma Jamma Baby

University of Houston....only team that has ever mattered in college basketball :rolleyes:

mrigsby
02-16-08, 03:08 PM
Matzira,

Did you have fun playing that zones game last night? LadyThanatos and Pujols are two people I play with alot and they are really good. I've been learning alot form them...I tried to find you several times but I couldn't


Oh, well, niceto know your spot still works.

I used it last night when a tank rolled up, he had no idea what was going on. Then LadyThanatos naded me when I wasn't looking

GadJets
02-17-08, 07:45 AM
I just wanted to thank everyone for all the tips. I've been playing Warhawk for about 2 weeks now and reading thru this thread helped alot.

mrigsby
02-17-08, 11:50 AM
Glad these tips helpede

Just remember to have fun and the more you play the better you'll get

GadJets
02-17-08, 05:23 PM
Glad these tips helpede

Just remember to have fun and the more you play the better you'll get

thanks paws, this game is very addicting which=fun. Hope to see you online

mbgonzomd
02-17-08, 06:16 PM
Phi Slamma Jamma Baby

University of Houston....only team that has ever mattered in college basketball :rolleyes:

Two words: Lorenzo Charles

NCSU class of '93:D

mbgonzomd
02-19-08, 11:47 AM
Another tip:

Know your limitations. If your team is bogged down at one spawn site and you are not very strong in a warhawk, leave the planes for some other players who can maybe get out and capture another spawn.

Know the limitations of you vehicle. By this I mean know how many shots your vehicle can take before it blows.

Example, a warhawk will blow up on the second RPG shot. If you get hit by one RPG and you can not imminently kill the shooter, it is probably time to run and get more energy. A jeep can take 2 tank shots before blowing. If you get hit once, strongly consider bailing out of the jeep.

so's your face
02-19-08, 01:09 PM
Glad these tips helpede

Just remember to have fun and the more you play the better you'll get

actually, having fun is rule #8 if you remember and therefore far less of a priority!

GadJets
02-20-08, 07:52 AM
when is the next Warhawks Anonymous Meeting?

made a quick ringtone using Glory from the soundtrack

enjoy!

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=OQL9LGEC

adams828
02-21-08, 01:14 PM
Anyone have any good tips on taking out ground troops while in WH? (aside from the obvious don't stand still)

mulder_fbi
02-21-08, 01:38 PM
Anyone have any good tips on taking out ground troops while in WH? (aside from the obvious don't stand still)

I usually just use swarm missiles and tap tap on the machine gun (so the gun doesnt overheat). Just point your crosshair to the ground and use your hover movement to aim. If the troops are running in a straight line, just move your WH in the same direction of movement as you fire.

If you think a rocket launcher is near by, don't attack troops without full health. If they get a rocket off, dont chaff, as the rocket will prolly hit you before you hit the chaff. Just take the damage and run. Chaff the second rocket if you have to.

While hovering, if you are concerned that the one locked missile is the yellow homing missile and not the rocket launcher, you're prolly dead anyway (swarms and machine gun fire are likely coming afterwards). Thus, taking damage from one locked missile is often better than trying to chaff it. Just run and try to chaff subsequent missiles.

mrigsby
02-21-08, 01:46 PM
Mulder pretty much nailed it in the above post.

mulder_fbi
02-21-08, 02:04 PM
I assume everyone knows how to tell how many missiles are locked. :)

One general tip... when using the rockets/swarm/homing/turret missiles, I will keep my finger on the fire button. This way, I will start to lock on anything I aim at if it's in range. Forgive me if this tip is obvious. :)

kekborg
02-21-08, 02:12 PM
I assume everyone knows how to tell how many missiles are locked. :)

One general tip... when using the rockets/swarm/homing/turret missiles, I will keep my finger on the fire button. This way, I will start to lock on anything I aim at if it's in range. Forgive me if this tip is obvious. :)

Mulder, good tip. This was not obvious to me early in my warhawk days until I read it in another warhawk forum. We have a lot of new warhawker's as of late so this type of 411 is useful.

xmafro
02-21-08, 02:45 PM
Anyone have any good tips on taking out ground troops while in WH? (aside from the obvious don't stand still)

Look for the name "xmafro" over the top of a troop--aim for him. He's a pretty easy target. Ask the guys who were on last night:o

mulder_fbi
02-21-08, 03:07 PM
Duuuuuuude... I just went 16-1 in the warhawk. I love playing the school kids in the afternoon. :D Some of them were barely getting out of hover mode. :cool:

Aletuner
04-21-08, 02:06 PM
Just found this thread... it's a gold mine of good warhawk info, thanks!

I just picked up my PS3 a couple of weeks ago and bought Warhawk and all the expansion packs. No mic yet, but looking to get one soon. Anyway, I love the game! It makes me laugh even when I get killed... I do have a couple of questions though.

1) I have just been joining the lowest ping "casual/mix" servers, no buddies that have a PS3, unfortunately. It seems like anytime someone gets in a vehicle other than an APC they take off immediately. I know the Jeep can hold two people, but can tanks, warhawks, etc. all hold two as well?

2) I have read the previous tips regarding missles taking you out when you are in the Warhawk. However I still seem to get blasted out of the sky within seconds of taking off in one. Should I be flying low, constantly juking or hiding, looking for a target? I seem to just take off, start trying to get weapons, then BOOM. Pretty lights with my body squirming as it heads down to the ground.

Loving the game a ton though! I'm getting good on the ground at least. Favorite part so far is wailing on the horn in the jeep right before I run down an enemy on foot.

-Lee
PSN I.D.: AlphaShepherd

tneck
04-21-08, 02:28 PM
1). People tend to take off and not wait for other players when it comes to vehicles. When you get in a good game with cooperation a lot of people will double up in vehicles and head out to captures spawns. The jeep can hold three people. The tank and the warhawk can hold two.

2). Getting good in a warhawk is going to be tough now that there are a lot of skilled pilots already out there and you are relatively new. Find out where the cloak/invisibility pick up is on the map and go for that. Allows you to fly undetected. Also, just knowing where you are and where your opponents are in the air will work wonders. Get use to evasive manuevering because you will be doing it often. It does help to fly in different patterns and also around/behind low buildings/mountains. By flying behind or around these things it will not allow for people with rocket launchers or in missile turrets to lock on to you.

Go check out the Warhawk Wednesday thread. You should definitely join our games on Weds. nights. A lot of good players that like an easy kill. Just kidding, everyone is cool and you can pick up a lot of good warhawk skills. Oh yeah, and it's fun.

mulder_fbi
04-21-08, 06:51 PM
2a) Practice using the warhawk in a game you create. You should be comfortable in the following before you put your warhawk skills up against other players

- able to quickly take off without spending more than a second in hover mode
- able to fly while toggling the map (select button) on and off so that u can periodically check for the number and location of enemy WHs
- able to quickly land and exit a WH to escape an air death (death dive+triangle+square)
- able to quickly enter a WH and take off to escape a ground death (square+triangle+R2 double tap)

2b) Gain WH experience in rank limited games to ensure you are playing with other newbies. Don't go past this step until you:

- are able to shake off swarm missiles
- are able to chaff any missile at a high percentage
- know how to boost missile
- make great use of stealth, air mines, and the lightning gun
- can use the select button to see if the enemy is following you
- can use the select button to see where enemy turrets are
- can dominate in 1v1 newbie dog fighting :cool:
- can escape a 2v1 newbie dog fight

If you are still dying a lot, here are some possible causes and solutions:

problem: You suck. :p
fix: Join the AVSc clan. Misery loves company! :D

problem: You are out numbered in the air.
fix: Jeep capture the map to starve them of fresh WHs. Use the rocket launcher to annoy/distract the enemy WH. Rocket spam from a rocket spawn location.

problem: you are getting rocket/turret spammed
fix: Use stealth to take out the spammers. Use a TOW missile. If the enemy quickly returns to a spamming location, TOW them again and again and again and again and again. :D

problem: You are getting pwned by the enemy's best pilot.
fix: Liberal use of air mines. Use stealth to run away. Double Air Mine the stealth. Stay near your base if u are getting rocket/turret support. Jeep capture the map to starve them of fresh WHs. Land Mine the parked WHs at the enemy's main base.

problem: You are getting pwned by Mulder.
fix: Just endure the pain until Mulder get's sleepy and quits. :D

so's your face
04-21-08, 08:51 PM
problem: You suck. :p
fix: Join the AVSc clan. Misery loves company! :D


:eek:

may your dogs crap on your couch! :p

Aletuner
04-22-08, 10:39 AM
Getting better... slowly. Only like 13 games played so far though.

Question: Is there an easy way to determine which mines are your teams and which are the enemies? I was guarding a zone capture point last night with a teammate, and saw a mine over near a window entrance. Thinking it was one of ours, I went over near it to grab some grenades that had respawned, and then there was a sudden white light and a high pitched tone, then the respawn select screen :)

-Lee
PSN ID: AlphaShepherd

_Avarice_
04-22-08, 10:43 AM
Getting better... slowly. Only like 13 games played so far though.

Question: Is there an easy way to determine which mines are your teams and which are the enemies? I was guarding a zone capture point last night with a teammate, and saw a mine over near a window entrance. Thinking it was one of ours, I went over near it to grab some grenades that had respawned, and then there was a sudden white light and a high pitched tone, then the respawn select screen :)

-Lee
PSN ID: AlphaShepherd

Don't you hate that?? :p

The mines will have a team-colored light emanating from the top of them. If the mine is the color opposite of yours, stay away!

It always helps if you have surround sound as well. You're more likely to hear those suckers before you see'em. Good luck!

cooper1010
04-22-08, 11:52 AM
Don't you hate that?? :p

The mines will have a team-colored light emanating from the top of them. If the mine is the color opposite of yours, stay away!

my color blindness is a definite hinderance to this. i have a hard time w/ the warhawks on the map, too.

It always helps if you have surround sound as well. You're more likely to hear those suckers before you see'em. Good luck!

true. turn up the volume and start tiptoeing around when you hear the beeps. also, change the spawn point to your teams before running around; you can at least respawn there after finding a hidden enemy mine the hard way.

i've noticed two different tones to the mine beeps, but don't know if that is indicative of whose team's they are or if it's meaningless, or if i'm crazy and there aren't two different tones.

macd23
04-22-08, 12:26 PM
Has anyone here been playing against the Japanese clans? Supposedly some of the better clans from the US have been absolutely annihilated by the Japanese clans thus far.

flagyl
08-19-08, 06:38 PM
Is it possible to use the CBUs against ground targets (AAA guns, SAMs and tanks) while in flight mode?

I've tried to put my pipper roughly on the target of interest and swoop down to try and deal death to the ground tick, but I really don't know when to release the goods. Even in hover mode, I'm not sure I'm dropping the load directly on their heads.

Any tips on how to fracture craniums on the ground from above with some CBU love? :)

bplewis24
08-19-08, 07:02 PM
Is it possible to use the CBUs against ground targets (AAA guns, SAMs and tanks) while in flight mode?

Yes there is, but you either have to fly very close to them and quickly eject and get out, or you have to swoop directly down (only possible in pro flight?) and aim it right at them with such velocity that it doesn't release until close to the ground. Both take some repetition to get a feel for the timing of it. I love doing it to people on missle turrets. I have the timing of that one at about a 90% clip.

Even in hover mode, I'm not sure I'm dropping the load directly on their heads.


:eek: What are we talking about again?

Brandon

flagyl
08-19-08, 07:22 PM
... I love doing it to people on missle turrets. I have the timing of that one at about a 90% clip.



...

Brandon


I think you were smoking me this past Saturday evening :). I was playing the 'Cloud level' and I was camping (I know...not nice, but I'm new :) ) and using the rocket launcher, thinking I was clever. This guy with his CBU showed me I wasn't as clever as I thought I was, lol.

cooper1010
08-19-08, 08:37 PM
what's a "cbu?"

metafourik
08-19-08, 08:49 PM
Cluster Bomb Unit


or


Complete ******** University <- where I got my B.S.

metafourik
08-19-08, 08:58 PM
My warhawk tips would be:

1. Be a good pilot
2. Cheat
3. Learn from good players
4. Avoid the Warhawk wednesday thread at all costs
5. Control your emotions
6. Slice dudes up in close quarters
7. Don't ever listen to my ******** (see above post)

bplewis24
02-11-10, 02:34 PM
One of my favorite land mine tricks is on the center base on Archipalago. You get the land mines and place them dead center on the ceiling at the front and back of each enterence. Jeeps zoom through...booom - tanks roll through and get hit by the first one and there's damamge, the second destroys them.

Seems to me they may have changed the impact damage mines have on tanks.

I was in a game last night and it was taking 3 mines to kill each one, anybody else notice this?

Keep me posted.

PursuitGT
02-11-10, 03:31 PM
Seems to me they may have changed the impact damage mines have on tanks.

I was in a game last night and it was taking 3 mines to kill each one, anybody else notice this?

Keep me posted.

Sounds about right.

_Avarice_
02-11-10, 04:54 PM
It used to be two, right?

Auditor_Kevin
02-11-10, 05:35 PM
Yep. It used to be 2 mines to destroy a tank. Is this 'mine damage' rumor confirmed?

I'd like to add a tip for the Archipeligo map, and it works awesome:

Take one of the 4 tanks that spawn in the middle and drive it up the side ramps that lead to the Warhawks. Then steer around and drive the tank around that raised walkway that makes up the perimeter of the middle spawn.

Park the tank right above the entrance to the middle base that the enemy will be going thru.

You'll be able to kill enemies heading down the hill to the middle spawn, and you'll absolutely destroy the enemy jeeps that sneak through and start flippipng the middle spawn.

Bring a wrench with you to take care of the occasional rocket spammer that can harass you from the top of the hill.

This is one of my favorite strategies in the game. I've seen it singlehandedly turn around Capture The Flag matches for my team since holding the middle spawn is so crucial.

jasnmb
02-11-10, 06:16 PM
speaking of mines, did anyone ever test how many it takes to blow up a drop ship?