Folks,

This is the first 2008 Berkline Home Theater Seating Power buy.

Please refer to the AVS Classifieds Power buy section http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/vbclassified.php?do=ad&id=1928 for details.

This thread will be reserved for posting any related questions, comments and pictures.

As always we appreciate your support.

I purchased during the summer 2007 Powerbuy and the chairs, service, and price from Roman were/are awesome. :D

You can check out my eight 45004's (Black) in my construction thread.

-T.Wells

I just ordered Berkline 13174, 1 row 4 seats, straight configuration from Roman on his first 2008 Berkline Home Theater Seating Power buy. He has good/competive prices. He answered all my questions regarding his products, both via emails and telephone calls. I'm now waiting for a delivery date, which I hope is soon, so I can start enjoying my home theater seats.

can either of the 13174 or 13175 be made in a config such as shown at he bottom of the 978, IOIOOIOI ? Can an arm be taken off? How would you describe the leather on those 2 lines?

Thanks

uwansumadis,

None of the groups that start with 13 including 13174 and 13175 can be configured with the loveseat or couch configuration. The pieces that are available see them here: 13174 specs (http://www.rtheaters.com/berkline/images/13174.pdf) and 13175 specs (http://www.rtheaters.com/berkline/images/13175.pdf) will not allow putting together the configurations like that.

Both leathers that are used on these groups 7023 on 13174 and 75013 on 13175 are nice and soft. I'd say that the 75013 is slightly better quality and similar to 7077 group 3 leather in terms of softness and look.

I hope this helps.

Folks,

I have had a problem with the phone lines in the first part of the day. It is working fine now.

Both leathers that are used on these groups 7023 on 13174 and 75013 on 13175 are nice and soft. I'd say that the 75013 is slightly better quality and similar to 7077 group 3 leather in terms of softness and look.


How do these compare to the 13084, which you also have on your site? It seems to be avaiable at a similar price point. I have read that these are very similar to the 090's. These seemed to have been discussed a lot here on the forum.

uwansumadis,

I already expressed my opinion about the 13084s in the other thread. I do not like them, and I feel that they are one of the worst ones among all Berkline style groups comfort wise. When people compare them with the 090s I truly believe that it is realy unfare comparison. The 090 is much, much, much better chair. The 13084 does not come even close... Please take it as my opinion only. You will find many people happy with this group just because they probably have nothing to compare it to. The Berkline took 13084, modified the seat making it a chaise and sold to COSTCO as 13127 group. While I do like the chaise design, I still do not like the back on this chair (very uncomfortable to me), the armrests are awkward, and the leather is not as good as I would have liked it to be.

I usually go to the Market twice a year to make sure that I try all the chairs and know the product. I could get any recliners, but I chose the 13124 and 13175 because I felt that they were most comfortable and best value for the money. The leather on these recliners was also better IMHO.

The 13174 is basically 090, and the 13175 is a new group, which I also liked a lot because of the shape of its back that provided better head support in the reclining position and the leather was quite nice.

Based on Roman's reviews and opinions, I revised my previous order on the Berkline 13174. I have now ordered the 13175 instead. This change is allowing me to have extra space in my HT configuration. That's 122.75" on the 13175 vs. 137.5" on the 13174.

I am very happy with my berks 13084 I got from costco, I have a chance of seating to a lot of berklines products here in WA before we decided to buy it, I honestly like them because of the chaise design and it was a good deal also and that sold me to it. And costco sell other hometheater seats also they have a lot of display in their costco home in Kirkland WA, But they are too expensive for me. I believed that the 13084 is not the worst of berklines items. But that is only my opinion.

rutlian,

This is great. It is a public forum, and everyone is entitled to his opinion and can express it here. I am very glad that you are happy with your purchase and your chairs, and as long as that is the case, it is irrelevant what other may think or do. The happy customer is the ultimate goal, and I personally do not care who you buy from even it is not from me.

I am curious though since your have tried "a lot of berklines products" which one you would consider worse than the 13084?

Does the PowerBuy provide a lower price point than Costco for Berklines?

Chiltown,

Please follow the PB thread, and submit your price quote including all required info to sales@rtheaters.com.

I don't really pay attention for the model number when I tried several berks in JC Penny, and Levitz sure they are comfortable but like I said it is little to pricey for me, that's why when I've learned that Costco has special deal I jumped on it specially when I saw them being chase design I know I will get it. And when I said this is not the worst berkline chair I mean that, I may not have a lot of experience like you have for seating in different berklines models I wish I am dealer like you so I can try all the berklines model. And I am really looking for the chased design because I dont like having a gap between my legs and seat I have small kids (2 and infant) so safety for them is my concern. GOODLUCK on your powerbuy.

Chiltown,

Please follow the PB thread, and submit your price quote including all required info to sales@rtheaters.com.

Wasn't looking for a quote on anything in particular. Was simply curious as to how the powerbuy's compare in terms of price relative to Costco. Attempting to satisfy curiousity.

chiltown,

It is against the forum rules to discuss pricing on the open forum, unless it is MSRP. Follow the power buy link and you may get an idea on pricing.

I had placed an order with Roman at Ultimate Home Entertainment a short while back for 7 Berkline 45004's. The delivery truck came a few days ago and I couldn't be happier. Bought during the last powerbuy and thought the pricing was very competitive. Roman was kind enough to answer all my questions and kept me informed on the progress of the order. The chairs look great. I even won some theater pillows during the power buy :D.

I wouldn't hesitate to order from Roman again.

Folks, simply put... Roman has the best prices, the best products, and to go with it the best customer service!!!! I can attest to this fact, Roman's number one goal is to make sure his clients are happy, PERIOD! If you want to goto Costco, sit in a few, get an idea, or maybe even by them, congratulations! You won't be dissapointed, however, you also won't be able to customize the set for your room or add accessories such as motorized reclines (A MUST) and buttkickers (EVERY BIT WORTH THE COST), but only if they are installed from the factory, IMHO.... For all that are interested in the power buy, I am jealous, but I also remember the anxiety I had waiting for my chairs... It was like a child waiting for Santa! ENJOY!!

Folks, simply put... Roman has the best prices, the best products, and to go with it the best customer service!!!! I can attest to this fact, Roman's number one goal is to make sure his clients are happy, PERIOD! If you want to goto Costco, sit in a few, get an idea, or maybe even by them, congratulations! You won't be dissapointed, however, you also won't be able to customize the set for your room or add accessories such as motorized reclines (A MUST) and buttkickers (EVERY BIT WORTH THE COST), but only if they are installed from the factory, IMHO.... For all that are interested in the power buy, I am jealous, but I also remember the anxiety I had waiting for my chairs... It was like a child waiting for Santa! ENJOY!!

there is one member who bought the seat from costco and were able to accesorize it by adding buttkicker and even made a loveseat out of it. So it can be done. He detailed and shows photos in another thread.

Roman what is the bare minimum that the 75's have to be away from the wall. I noticed that they need 73" of wall space on the spec sheet. My riser is 72" with 1.5" overhang. It wont be to big a deal for them to slightly hang off the riser when they are fully reclined, which wont be too often but I would like to know for sure what that amount of overhang will be. It mostly means that I'll need to push my front row out by that much. Thanks.

Why isn't this being made a STICKY?

oman321,

The required wall space is a space that the chair takes in fully reclined position, so the 73" will include 4"-6" that you need to have behind the chair while placing it against a wall. You should be fine.

Sweet... Trying to smooth over the finance committee :D wish me luck.

Good luck, but do not forget to tell her that you love her, and do it several times...

:)

I loved dealing with RTheaters during an AVS Powerbuy a while back. I'm all set for chairs (2 Berklines and a console) but I know you sell other items. Think I'll go poke around your site for a bit.

there is one member who bought the seat from costco and were able to accesorize it by adding buttkicker and even made a loveseat out of it. So it can be done. He detailed and shows photos in another thread.

Yeah but he had to buy a 2nd set of chairs and then do a lot of work to get the loveseat configuration.

Yeah but he had to buy a 2nd set of chairs and then do a lot of work to get the loveseat configuration.

Yeah! but the point is still possible to accesorize it, If you are just adding buttkickers you don't have to buy a 2nd set. But if you want to reconfigure a loveseat and 1 chair on each side you have to get a 2nd set. and does require a lot of work but it could be done.

Folks,

FYI: Starting today for limited time only we will be running a Fortune Cookie Sale promo. Check the power buy page for details...

Folks,

For all you who ordered the 13174 and 13175 recliners - they are going to be in the warehouse on Wednesday 02/06/08. We will be shipping them out right away.

RSH,

Can I order the 13174's in a 2 seat config? My room is not large enough to support the three seaters and still have room to walk around them. I don't necessarily mean a loveseat config (although I'd consider that too, if available).

I tried to find Berkline locally to test them out, but ALL the CostCo's say they dont have them, and it's next to impossible to find anyone who knows their head from a hole in the ground at those stores. One guy actually told me "No Berkline, we only have Sony, Panasonic and JVC." :eek:

Kalamath,

As of today all 13174 straight configurations in BLACK are sold out (will have a couple more sets in late March). I have one gentleman who did not make his mind whether he goes 13174 or 13175. If he decides to go with the 13175, than I would be able to give you a set of 2. He will know for sure on Thursday after he tries the seats. They are arriving into the warehouse on Wednesday, and I will have some on display to try… I can also probably give you a set of 2 curved configuration if you are interested.

Please contact me by phone or email and provide all required info. You can find all PB details on the power buy page: www.rtheaters.com/powerbuy .

3 to 4 month wait for a row of 3 berkline 13175 in brown. The narrow, electric recline seats are just what I need. I might have to just order and wait...

Roman,

Can you tell me what the seat height of the 088, 086, and 13175 are. Is it a standard 19"s across the Berkline models. Thanks.

oman321,

I do not have the 088 or 086s to measure. I know that the 090s and alike have 20.5" in the front and about 19 in the back, and I do know that the 086 and 088s have slightly lower seat, so you may be on target.

The 13175s are arriving to the warehouse today, and I will be there tomorrow and can measure it for you.

Thanks for the quick response,

I realized during the Super Bowl
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=989234
that I need to modify my riser and I need to take into account the seating height. If you have the opportunity to measure I would greatly appreciate it. Thanks.

Roman, can you include in your measurements, the seating area (cushion) on the 13174 and 13175?

Folks,

I visited our warehouse today and set up a pair of the 13174s and a pair of 13175 recliners. I was again pleasantly surprised with the quality and how nice the power recline was. I did some measurements for you:

13174
seat height in the front 20"
seat height in the back 17.5"
distance between the top of the seat in the back and the top of the chair 24"
seat depth 21"

13175
seat height in the front 20.5"
seat height in the back 18"
distance between the top of the seat in the back and the top of the chair 25"
seat depth 23"

BTW, I measured the height of the 13175 recliner (floor to the top of the back) and it was 42"-42.5" - higher than the 13174 which was right on target - 41" .

One more thing - I do not believe there is enough clearance to install the BK-LFE, but the mini buttkicker can be installed.

Thanks Roman,

That helps a lot.

I'm trying to decide between the Brown 13174 and the Taupe 13175. Color aside, does anyone have an opinion on the armrest for the 13175 recliner? I see that its ~4.75" wide vs 7.5" on the 13174. I'm more concerned about the curve in the armrest - it seems pretty dramatic. How does this armrest "feel" for anyone who's tried it out? Awkward or comfortable? Thanks!

MattM,

You will probably get no answers because this model is very new. I may be the first one to get them into our warehouse, and we just started shipping them out. I can give you my take on it if you want. This is quite personal matter, and it is hard to recommend something because one person may like it, and the other would not. I got used to the 090s. I have had the 090s for about 5 years, and I can tell you based on my experience I prefer straight arms. Now, again my opinion is biased and based on the fact that I owe the 090s for quite a long time. I never like the curved arms on the 075 (discontinued group), and I really did not like the shape of the arms on the 13083/13121 sold in COSTCO. When I tried the 13175 for the first time at the Market, though, I was pleasantly surprised. I found the chairs to be quite comfortable and the curved armrest did not bother me at all. I actually liked that design. They look very slick too...

We just set up several sets of the 13174 and 13175 in the warehouse for those who want to come and try them out before buying, but I do understand that traveling to NJ for some folks will be prohibitive :)

Roman,
I'm in the market for seats, and came across this thread. I'm totally new, (to seating), but the wife gave me the green light on this, so I better move quick! I'm looking into local retailers where I can actually sit in some, but width is a major concern in my setup. 95, maybe 97 is the most I can do. Just from looking at the pictures, I like the looks of the 094's. I'm tall, 6' 3", and they look and from the spec sheet, appear to be a little taller backs than the others.
I want something plush, I want to feel like Calvin (Calvin and Hobbes, cartoon) sinking into a nice big chair to watch a flick.
I have Bass Shakers in my "seats" now (an old couch), would you recommend just transferring them?
Are you offering any powerbuys on the 94's or on something similar to the 94's.
What is your recommendation?
I know it's tough, as I am basing this all on pictures, but I have to start somewhere.
Thanks

digitalmonkeyman,

Give me a call (the number is on my site), and I will give you all info you need and posibly recommend a proper seat for you.

Sweet... Trying to smooth over the finance committee :D wish me luck.

Oman, here is something that may help - I got the OK from the my CFO to go ahead and order them, but I debated internally for about a week, trying to take off an option here and reduce a chair there, because the lump some cost seemed high and I was worried I would regret it.

A few months later I would INSTANTLY do the purchase again, exactly like I did it the first time. There has not been a person yet to come to my house that doesn't fall in love with my chairs. As an example. Last years Superbowl party we had 1-2 people sitting up in the theater on the couches/chairs that we had and everyone else was downstairs around the food. This year, every chair was full and people were sitting on the floor around the room. Downstairs was empty.

The look and comfort of a good set of Berks is unbeatable IMO

Jonnio, can you post some pics?

for anyone still in the dark about roman, I bought 8 berklines from him last year and the sale/delivery went as smooth as butter.

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Jonnio, can you post some pics?

Here are a couple, I can do closeups or whatever by request -- I also forgot to mention in my original response how funny the delivery guy was. They sent one poor chap to deliver 8 chairs to us, so I went out and helped him. I think every single time we started getting the chair in the house he would say..."These are the heaviest recliners I have ever delivered" or "I deliver lift chairs for disabled people all the time and these have to weigh twice that much" He asked for Roman's info before he left.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2138/1796023446_87cf787a27_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/jonnio/1796023446/)

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2407/1795184615_ff81227d48_b.jpg
(http://www.flickr.com/photos/jonnio/1795184615/)

Jon,

Does that mean I need to pack, run and hide?

:)

Can anyone give me any thoughts on the Palliser line of theater seating vs the Berkine ones?

My local furniture store carries only the Palliser line and My wife likes them because on the weges they have storage for remotes and such. These chairs are going in a living room and not a dedicated home theater

If the same is available in the buerkline ones I would definately consider them.

How about it Roman ?

thanks Sfatman

Jon,

Does that mean I need to pack, run and hide?

:)

LOL - NO -- he was impressed with the bulk/quality and was thinking about buying some :)

how much minimum space do you recomend from the back of a fully reclined chair to the front of the footrest of a fully reclined chair behind them

sfatman,

I found the Palliser recliners to be a high quality and great value for the money. In terms of comfort I did like one of their models very much when I tried it (I do not remember which model it was). I do believe that the Palliser seating is more on the firm side if you compare it to Berkline.

KERMIE ,

I would recommend having at least a foot or so. This way people in the front row would not have someone’s feet from the back row on top of their heads.

it's time to pick out the seating and we thought we had decided on berk 099 but then my husband was reading an article that suggested that the 099s were too tall and they would interfere with the surround sound, the article went on to suggest that the 45004s were not as tall, but equal in comfort. Anyone have any input on this?

lollywolf,

Choosing the right seating would depend on many factors:

1. your and your husband height and weight
2. whether you go with one row of seating or several
3. location of your surround sound speakers
4. room dimensions

etc...

The 099s and 45004 are very different groups, and it is like comparing apples to oranges. If the height of the chair is the only concern, than yes, 45004 will have 41.5" back height and the 099 will be 44.5". The 45004 has also much smaller footprint. There is quite a selection of the chairs that will be at the same height - 41"-42" and may be a better choice, but it is hard to recommend something without having more info...

well here's the thing... room is 16 x 23ish.. take away for studs, drywall, etc. we're still in the design stage, trying to fit two rows of four in with a riser, there is a three foot sofit on one side of the room that comes down 13" the plan is to place the screen and seats to the left of the sofit, (centered with the remaining 13' of room) and use the sofit area as a walkway.. not sure what that will do accustically, but it's the hubby's idea. We're still in the paper stage of design and won't sign a contract until all details are worked out. I had no idea it would take this much planning just to figure out where to put the riser. We haven't decided on a screen size yet, because we are yoyoing about what is most important, larger screen or more seats.. you can guess hubby is going larger screen, let your friends and family build their own room... and (me) more seats, kids parties, friends over, etc.... then there is the whole idea of resale, even if we do go with fewer seats we want to plan for more in the future.

Today we went to a local store that has a berkline room... then over to Big Screen store who had more of a selection.. I like the 88s for my size, 5'5 and hubby was comparing the 99vs96 (might have been 94s) had a higher back but with the pillow top he said it pushed his head to much forward, 99s vs 90s he found that the 99s were the most comfortable, I'm with 99s as well. We did sit in the 45004s but weren't impressed, but that was before we thought we had to worry about surround sound problems.

So there you have it... I do plan on giving you a call in the am for a quote.

Laura Lee

Laura,

Please call after 11:30 a.m. I have to run some errands in the morning. I will definitely discuss with you your situation and may give some suggestions and recommendations.

Oman, here is something that may help - I got the OK from the my CFO to go ahead and order them, but I debated internally for about a week, trying to take off an option here and reduce a chair there, because the lump some cost seemed high and I was worried I would regret it.

A few months later I would INSTANTLY do the purchase again, exactly like I did it the first time. There has not been a person yet to come to my house that doesn't fall in love with my chairs. As an example. Last years Superbowl party we had 1-2 people sitting up in the theater on the couches/chairs that we had and everyone else was downstairs around the food. This year, every chair was full and people were sitting on the floor around the room. Downstairs was empty.

The look and comfort of a good set of Berks is unbeatable IMO

Thanks for the vote of confidence Jonnio,

I want to jump at the opportunity, but they're a couple of reasons holding me back. The reality is that I will be better prepared for a purchase of HT seats closer to late summer/fall. Finances are a part but the main reason is that I'm still in some serious construction mode with not only my dedicated room but the rest of basement.

Roman has been great to deal with, both on this site and through email. Very responsive to requests and helpful with the small details that seem to differ in everyones setup. I will more than likely be dealing with him when the time finally comes for me to go ahead.

BTW your set up looks awesome...

Roman,
Thanks for taking the time to talk to me today, I had scribbled down some notes as were were talking, and just wanted a little clarification. I figured I would post here as others may find the information useful.

The 45002 is the same chair as the 45012, but has a power headrest.
The 45014 is the same chair as the 45002, but with a different 'cover'
All three chairs, 45002, 45012, 45014 come in leather.

The 187 is the same chair as the 094, without the arm storage and tray table.

I wrote down 099, but I can't remember which that was equivalent to.

Do I have that right?

Thanks!

digitalmonkeyman,

Almost :)

All the Berkline recliners can be ordered in fabric, composite (bonded) leather, leather/vinyl combo or all leather. There are several groups of fabrics (mostly group 1 and 2 are used on the HT groups), and 4 groups of leather.

The 45014 is not the same as 45002. It does have similar features - comes with power recline and powered headrest (so far these are only two groups that have the power headrest feature). They are also similar in size, but they look quite different. The 45014 has slicker more modern design. The 45002 would be slightly more comfortable out of these two groups if you ask me.

The 099 has similar back height. All mentioned groups: 094, 187, 45002, 45012 and 45014 have 44.5" high back, and IMHO will be a best fit for folks who are 6'4" or taller

Roman,
I really like the 002's, unfortunately, the 002's will not fit in my space, unless I only got 2 instead of 3 seats.....can't see doing that.

In your opinion is the 099 or the 094 a more comfortable chair? I sat in the 094 and liked it very much.

Thanks

I like the 094 better than the 099. To me the 099 is a bit too big and too soft. I also prefer chase design (094) vs. comfort rest (099). If you can live without tray and the storage compartment for it, I would recommend the 187 which is exactly the same chair as the 094, but without bells and whistles and cost much less.

I like the 094 better than the 099. To me the 099 is a bit too big and too soft. I also prefer chase design (094) vs. comfort rest (099). If you can live without tray and the storage compartment for it, I would recommend the 187 which is exactly the same chair as the 094, but without bells and whistles and cost much less.

I 100% agree with this, I have tried all 3 chairs (I'm 6'4) the 187 is the best chair out of those. The 099 is very comfortable but the comfort rest design (gap in the footrest) sucks. The 187 is very comfortable, if you have an Art Van near you they have them on the showroom floor.

Just for reference, I also thought the 45002/450012 was the most comfortable and I ordered it (barely fit in my space)

Just for reference, I also thought the 45002/450012 was the most comfortable and I ordered it (barely fit in my space)

Out of curiousity, what does "barely fit in my space" mean to you or others? I'm wonder what "enough" space really is to fit some chairs into.

I am just about to order the 13174 chairs, but am a little concerned about the width. The 4-seat curved config lists 148" and my room is only 170" wide. The chairs will be in the back 3/4 of the room (~5' from the back wall). The only thing behind the chairs will be the Equipment Rack and Subwoofer. So I will need to get around behind the chairs to access the equipment.

So only ~22" space either split on either side or push the chairs up against one of the side walls to have all the space on one side of them.

I think I can get around the chairs to access the equipment (really only to put in a DVD or something) - everything else will be with the remote. But will the chairs look too "big" for the room being that close to the walls?

Its for this reason that I really wanted the 13175 set, but the color I want (brown) is sold out and not excited about a 4-month wait for a custom order. I also can't settle for a 3-chair config. The only other option would be to go with a straight config, but really think the curved looks so much nicer.

Thoughts? Thanks.

Matt,

FYI: The dimensions on the 13174s are quite conservative. When I measured the chairs, and I did it twice, the armrest was about 6.5" wide and not 7.5" as it is shown in the spec. Basically you will save about 1" on each armrest. That means that your curved configuration of 4 recliners would be about 5" shorter than shown in the spec sheet.

By barely fit, I mean about 20-24" of space to walk by

Jonnio, your chairs looks great. Nice HT setup. I changed my purchase order (again) and now I'm waiting for the Berkline 13174, 4 chairs, straight configuration.

coolblue1106

I know this doesn't relate directly to the topic, but are the Berk's hard to get into narrow doorways? I would just hate to buy some and have them not fit or get beat up in the processes of moving them in.

I just took delivery from Roman of the 13175 4 seat curved configuration. I'm extremely happy with these chairs they are even better than I had hoped. I did not get to sit in these chairs before buying them but I took Roman's suggestion on the 13175 and I'm happy I did. I don't have a camera at the moment but If I can scrounge one up I'll post some pics. Thanks to everyone that left positive feedback on Roman as it's the main reason I decided to buy from him. Thanks Roman.

I know this doesn't relate directly to the topic, but are the Berk's hard to get into narrow doorways? I would just hate to buy some and have them not fit or get beat up in the processes of moving them in.

JagMag, the 13175 looks like you could easily fit (Unassembled) through 28" space. My doors were 31" and fit very easily. I measured the narrowest part of the chairs(Unassembled) and it was 26". The chairs came in boxes that were too big to fit through my doors but I unpacked them in the foyer of the Condo and took the pieces inside and assembled there. Also the chairs were packaged so well inside the box that you shouldn't have problems getting inside. There was a cloth sock type of thing over each piece as well as a nice thick sheet of plastic. I inspected my chairs thoroughly and there's not a mark anywhere.

Fletcha,

You are welcome.

Time to grab a DVD and enjoy the ride :)

Ok, based on all the positive feedback here I took the plunge and placed an order with Roman for 8 Berklines. My husband thinks I'm crazy to be buying a chair I've never sat in and from someone on the internet that I've never met. Normally, I would be apprehensive but what I've read here has certainly influenced my decision.

So far, Roman's been very responsive via email and phone with all my questions. I'll let everyone know how the order and shipment go. Thanks again for all the comments.

Ok, based on all the positive feedback here I took the plunge and placed an order with Roman for 8 Berklines. My husband thinks I'm crazy to be buying a chair I've never sat in and from someone on the internet that I've never met. Normally, I would be apprehensive but what I've read here has certainly influenced my decision.

So far, Roman's been very responsive via email and phone with all my questions. I'll let everyone know how the order and shipment go. Thanks again for all the comments.

queendvd2,
What chairs did you go with? And what color, and fabric / grade? I'm ready to pull the trigger on 4, with Roman, based on many of the same factors. Everyone here says how great the experience has been , and he always replies to my voice messages and email, usually within an hour!
Amazing!
I just ordered some Berkline swatches, and am waiting for those before we decide on the final color.

I went with the 078s in the Black L/V combo, grade 3 that are on sale. I had gone to Costco and actually liked the ones they had there (but admittedly I have very little experience sitting in various theater chairs). I was all set to buy two sets of the 3-seaters until I realized that the config of my basement (steel pole right smack in the middle of my future theater) would not accommodate two sets of 3.

I spoke with Roman to see whether he had any to match the costco ones (I'd buy a costco set for the first row and fill in the second row with his). After running through the dimensions and limitations of my room (14x20), I discovered that the 078s were really a good (not ideal, but good) fit. Especially since I decided that I really needed 4 for the front row (family of 4). I've got 19" on each side for the aisle which is not great but passable since we're not big.

I took a look at that other thread where the guy changed the config of the costco chairs to the exact set-up that I chose (IOIOOIOI) and did a side-by-side comparison with another set of pics that another member posted of their 078s. Even though I ended up paying about two benjis more per chair, the difference between the way they look is stark (plain jane vs. luxurious). So now all I have to worry about it actually taking delivery of the chairs and liking the comfort.

Sounds good. I'm going with the 187's. Roman helped me figure out they are the same chairs as the 094's, but without the storage in the arms and no tray tables. You also save a TON of money.
I had to go with a bigger chair (taller back height), because I'm 6' 3" and all the one's I sat in that weren't at least a 41" back height were just too uncomfortable. My head rolled too far back.
We are undecided on the color, for leather/vinyl combo grade 4, they make a really dark red which looks great on the website, if not that, then black.

I also have a space constraint because of a post in the basement, and am going with a;
IOIOIOI post IOI
Not exactly ideal, but since the basement was finished when we bought the home, I have to play that hand I was dealt

Let us know how everything progresses!

Folks,

FYI: All Berkline 078 motorized recliners are sold out at this point. I have several sets of 3 and 4 motorized w/factory installed buttkickers left.

Phew, close call. Glad I got in before they sold out. I just can't wait to get them!

The anticipation is already killing me!!!!:D

Hi all,

Well I have my scheduled appointment to deliver my 4 078s on Friday. I can't wait! I will report my impressions on Friday.

Like many of you, I bought these solely based on the recommendation from Roman. Roman was very helpful and answered a slew of questions I had prior to the purchase.

I just ordered a 2 seater and a 3 seater (curved) 13174 from Roman... He spent a good deal of time on the phone with me explaining my options, and I really feel good about this purchase. Let's hope my butt and back feel just as good while sitting on these bad boys!!

I, too, just bought 7 078s from Roman - 4 for the front with a loveseat configuration then 3 in the back. The boxes are huge!!!

Roman answered many many questions and was always available. He even called the day of delivery to make sure everything was ok.

You cannot beat that customer service.

I, too, just bought 7 078s from Roman - 4 for the front with a loveseat configuration then 3 in the back. The boxes are huge!!!

Roman answered many many questions and was always available. He even called the day of delivery to make sure everything was ok.

You cannot beat that customer service.

My funds are in-transit so I do not have a ship date yet. We practically ordered the same set-up. I've got 4-front with loveseat and 2-two seaters for back. Do you have the exact dimensions for these boxes? Were they easy to fit through a front door? How heavy?

My funds are in-transit so I do not have a ship date yet. We practically ordered the same set-up. I've got 4-front with loveseat and 2-two seaters for back. Do you have the exact dimensions for these boxes? Were they easy to fit through a front door? How heavy?

They are fairly large boxes - probably somewhere on the order of 2.5x3x3 and weigh around 120-130lbs each. They are big.

The good news is that the backs and base are separate so they are easy to carry inside.

The good news is that the backs and base are separate so they are easy to carry inside.

So did you get 7 or 14 boxes? Is it difficult to attach the backs of the chairs? Does it involve screws or something?

Should be 7. The backs are off. They are placed on the seat of the chair and come in the same box with it. There are two rods coming out from the base of the seat. Just slide the back into those rods and push down - pretty straight forward.

digitalmonkeyman,

Almost :)

All the Berkline recliners can be ordered in fabric, composite (bonded) leather, leather/vinyl combo or all leather. There are several groups of fabrics (mostly group 1 and 2 are used on the HT groups), and 4 groups of leather.

The 45014 is not the same as 45002. It does have similar features - comes with power recline and powered headrest (so far these are only two groups that have the power headrest feature). They are also similar in size, but they look quite different. The 45014 has slicker more modern design. The 45002 would be slightly more comfortable out of these two groups if you ask me.

The 099 has similar back height. All mentioned groups: 094, 187, 45002, 45012 and 45014 have 44.5" high back, and IMHO will be a best fit for folks who are 6'4" or taller

Hi Roman,

Are you suggesting or saying here that someone that is say 5'7" will not like the 45002 and should stay away from it?

Secondly does this chair still have the wand control feature or have they built the electronic switches into the chair?

Thanks
Frank

Should be 7. The backs are off. They are placed on the seat of the chair and come in the same box with it. There are two rods coming out from the base of the seat. Just slide the back into those rods and push down - pretty straight forward.

Exactly.

I'm now desperately trying to finish all of the stuff downstairs so I can have my home theater back!

Are you suggesting or saying here that someone that is say 5'7" will not like the 45002 and should stay away from it?

Comfort wise no, but if you have a surround sound system, and your chairs are not up against a back wall and your surround sound speakers in this case are not up high, the backs of these recliners will block the surround sound.

Secondly does this chair still have the wand control feature or have they built the electronic switches into the chair?

Both power recliner controls are on the wand.

Comfort wise no, but if you have a surround sound system, and your chairs are not up against a back wall and your surround sound speakers in this case are not up high, the backs of these recliners will block the surround sound.

CBoth power recliner controls are on the wand.

I had the oppurtunity to try the 45002 and at first sight I said to myself that there was no way that I would "fit" into that chair properly. I was there so I tried the chair and to my surprise found it to be extremely comfortable and I am 5'7" and 165lbs.

From a "comfort" point of view, for someone of my height and weight, what would you sugggest as an alternative with say a smaller back or would you suggest sticking with the 45002?

Thanks
Frank

I would suggest the 088 or 086s because these chairs will give you nice head support without blocking your surround sound. Remember, though, these are completely different chairs from the 45002.

I would suggest the 088 or 086s because these chairs will give you nice head support without blocking your surround sound. Remember, though, these are completely different chairs from the 45002.

I tried the 088. Great chair but in the upright position I felt I had no head support at all and in the semi reclined position with footrest up there was some head support but not a lot. Unfortunately my 16:9 106" diagnol screen tops out at about 6.5 feet from the ground (ceiling is only 7.5 feet and I had to place the top of my screen at 1 foot lower than that) and I sit about 10.5 feet away from the screen (to eyes) so in the semi reclined position I felt my eyes would more naturally be staring at the ceiling, just above the screen.

I also tried the 090 and felt I had much better head support in the upright and semi reclined postions. In the semi-reclined postions I felt that my eyes would more naturally be staring at the screen hence giving better eye to screen direction than the 088. So from a "head support" position I liked the 090 better.

Unfortunately I have the extreme comfort of the 45002 stuck in my head and just wanted to make sure that if I went that way that it would not be the "wrong" choice.


Thanks
Frank

PS. I do have a 7.1 surround system with side dipole surrounds directly to the side and above the seating postion and rear dipole surrounds even further up the wall about 6 inches from ceiling.

Interesting...

Well tastes are different, and I can only suggest... I still believe that even the 090s have a bit higher back that you need and may/will at least partially block your surround sound.

Interesting...

Well tastes are different, and I can only suggest... I still believe that even the 090s have a bit higher back that you need and may/will at least partially block your surround sound.

Interesting is definitey the word. Never really thought that I would have liked the 45002 that much. Kind of fit like a glove. However than again all my impressions are derived from a one time test (though I did tak my time to make sure).

Thank you for all you valuable suggestions.

Frank

Frank,

I am 6' foot tall, and found the 45002 to be the most comfortable recliner I have ever sat in regardless the price and the manufacturer. I am not surprised you liked it. Most people do. But I would not consider it for myself, because they would definitely block the surround sound, especially if you go with two rows of seating (setup that I have)...

Frank,

I am 6' foot tall, and found the 45002 to be the most comfortable recliner I have ever sat in regardless the price and the manufacturer. I am not surprised you liked it. Most people do. But I would not consider it for myself, because they would definitely block the surround sound, especially if you go with two rows of seating (setup that I have)...

Well, I was thinking of using the 45002 for the front row only. Not sure how bad the blockage from the side and rear surrounds would be for me. I suppose the only really sure way to know is try it. The back row, which is on an 18" riser, would either get the 088 or the 090.

Do you sell much of the 45002 (and similiar ie. 45012 etc.) types of seating much?

I do, but mostly the folks who are tall - 6'4" and taller get those...

As stated earlier in this thread, I bought some 450012s and I am 6'4. I drove about 5 hours to sit in them and it was worth it, they are super comfortable for anyone IMO, my GF is about 5'1 and she loved them as well.

As stated earlier in this thread, I bought some 450012s and I am 6'4. I drove about 5 hours to sit in them and it was worth it, they are super comfortable for anyone IMO, my GF is about 5'1 and she loved them as well.

Do you have a 5.1 or 7.1 system and with what kind of surrounds (dipoles, monopoles or bipoles)?

How does this chair (with it somewhat higher back at 45") effect the sound from your surrounds for both you and your GF (epecially your GF since she is only 5'1")?

Any comments on how you or your GF likes the style? Did you go with leather or suede?

Thanks
Frank

As stated earlier in this thread, I bought some 450012s and I am 6'4. I drove about 5 hours to sit in them and it was worth it, they are super comfortable for anyone IMO, my GF is about 5'1 and she loved them as well.

I sat in the 45012's and the 094. I am 6'3" and 190#, and actually found the 094 to be slightly more comfortable, for a 'theater chair'. The 45012 was an 'overall' more comfortable chair for me, but I almost felt like I should be in my living room watching TV, instead of engaged in a movie. The 094 (and I actually am ordering the 187's, the same chair without the storage and tray table), seemed a bit more 'movie like'. I could imagine being very very comfortable for hours, and not overcome by the feeling of a nap.

The wife is 5'3" and likes the 094 better also. But then again, after an hour in the store, jumping between two chairs, she had lost all interest.
:)

My two cents......

Do you have a 5.1 or 7.1 system and with what kind of surrounds (dipoles, monopoles or bipoles)?

How does this chair (with it somewhat higher back at 45") effect the sound from your surrounds for both you and your GF (epecially your GF since she is only 5'1")?

Any comments on how you or your GF likes the style? Did you go with leather or suede?

Thanks
Frank

Dont have them yet unfortunately, I should get them by the end of the week though, they are enroute.

I have a 5.1 system

Well, I received my 4 078s on Friday and after a weekend of sitting in them I think they are very nice chairs and I am quite happy with them. When I first got them setup and initially sat down in one of them I honestly thought they were too stiff for me and not very comfortable at all. I figured well, they are brand new out of the box and like a shoe just need broken in a bit. I then proceeded to break them in a little by sitting and standing, sitting and standing. This softened up the cushion nicely. It was also obvious that there were clumps in the seat back and head rest that made them feel lumpy and hard in places. I then proceeded to massage if you will the seat backs and head rest to loosen up the stuffing and unclump some of it. This also softened up the leather and now my recliners feel mush better and very comfortable.

Thank you Roman for all your help the chairs are great!

To those considering higher backed chairs for extra head support:

I too went back and forth in my decision making as to weather to go with the 44 to 45" back or the standard 41" backs. I ended up going with the 078s with the 41" backs because I have a second row and I have a 7.1 channel system and didn't want to block any sound. I am 6' tall and really wanted to ensure I had some head support for overall comfort. I will say that I would have preferred something with the taller back for the little better comfort but for my setup the 078s with the nice big pillow top is a good compromise. It doesn't provide much head support when sitting in the upright position as it is just not tall enough; however, when reclined it does provide adequate head support to position me looking at my screen and it doesn't block any of my rear surround sound. The other consideration for me was the price for the 078 was very good. Overall I am happy with my choice.

I ended up going with the 078s with the 41" backs because I have a second row and I have a 7.1 channel system and didn't want to block any sound.

My 078s are en route. Thanks for the comments about the lumps and break-in. I didn't think with grade 3 there would need to be a break-in period. I'll keep that in mind when I unpack mine.

Slightly off topic, I am curious for your 7.1, did you use dipoles for the sides and rears or some other dipole/mono combo? Thanks.

Woo hoo!!! Just got word my 090s are on the way!!! Can't wait until they get here!!!!

WOO HOO x2!!!! Just got a call from the shipping company - The chairs will be here Thursday!!!!!!!

Just ordered a set of 45014 in leather for a fantastic price, power headrest oh yeah baby! Thanks Roman!!

My 078s are en route. Thanks for the comments about the lumps and break-in. I didn't think with grade 3 there would need to be a break-in period. I'll keep that in mind when I unpack mine.

So when they come directly out of the box they will feel a bit stiff all around, not much give in the cushion or the backs. What I mean by lumps are that for instance the center of the head rest pillow seemed to stick out more and feel stiffer than the sides. And then in the seat back one side would feel stiffer or more filled than the other side making it feel as though there was a lump in one side. But honestly they get better and better every day. It may also be that we have to adjust from the feel of our old seats to the feel of the new seats.

Slightly off topic, I am curious for your 7.1, did you use dipoles for the sides and rears or some other dipole/mono combo? Thanks.

Well, I am using speakers that a lot of people may have never seen for my surrounds at the moment. I am using the old Altec-Lansing surrounds that are dipoles with two 3.5" speakers between the dipoles sort of making them tri-poles if you will. These were part of the old high end surround sound system they sold for a while before closing down the high end speaker segment. I currently have 4 of these in my system but I am planning to trade the two side surrounds out for a pair of single pole speakers to get a little better direct sound in the surrounds. 4 of the dipoles is just too disbursed I think.

Folks,

Just a reminder - only a couple of days left until the Power Buy is over.

Also, for those who were interested in the Berkline 13217 group sold by COSCTO - we will have them by the end of March in curved configurations of 2, 3 and 4 (sorry, no loveseats). We are taking pre-orders now.

Take advantage while you can and get your FREE THROW BLANKETS as well.

What would you recommend for my room?

-looking for one row of 3 seats
-room is 11.5' wide x 18' deep x 8' high and part of it extends from a hallway. I measured and don't think I could have a total width of much more than 95" for all 3 seats
-I'm 6', 205lbs and am single. Figure "average" size guests for the other seats.
-I have a 5.1 setup and the surrounds are mounted on the side walls near the back of the room about 7' from the floor (fairly high in the air).
-don't know if it matters, but my current viewing distance is 11.5' and screen is 106" 16:9. Bottom of screen is about 27" from the floor.
-would like to budget around $1,000 but there is some flexibility (probably could go as high as $1,500)

Thanks!

Berkline 13175 or 45004 will fit in straight configurations.

Your budget is quite tight, and I unless you can stretch it, you may want to look into lower priced alternatives like Coasters...

I just ordered the 13175 from Roman in a straight row of 3 brown chairs. I only had about 95" to work with so the 93.5 width for three chairs worked out great.

What are the main differences between the 45004 and the 13175? If anybody has sat in both, what are the pros/cons?

Let us know how everything progresses!

My check finally arrived at UHE on Monday and my chairs (078s) got delivered on Wednesday. Talk about FAST shipping! Haven't had a chance to unpack all of them yet. You guys weren't kidding when you said those boxes were huge! And heavy to boot. Delivery guy put all the boxes in my garage. Had to take pieces (backs and seats) out of the boxes since boxes were too large for door frame. Now if only that HT was finished...or even started for that matter!

By the way, my husband doesn't think I'm so crazy now to have bought a chair I never sat in and from someone over the internet that I never met. We both love them-especially the motorized recline! Can't wait to see how the aluminum cup holders look once they arrive.

As stated by many before (precisely the reason I took the plunge), service and attention by Roman were top notch! Would highly recommend to others.

I will try and post a picture over the weekend.

My chairs are being delivered today!! If I remember correctly they are delivered curbside and it is my responsibility to get them inside.

Has anyone had any success at "bribing" the delivery guys for help getting them into the theater? If so, how much is a reasonable price range? (I am getting 3 motorized seats)

chad,

What are the main differences between the 45004 and the 13175? If anybody has sat in both, what are the pros/cons?

These are quite different recliners. The 45004 is domestically made and uses Berkline proprietary mechanism. If you choose manual recliner vs. motorized go for the 45004s. The 13175 has Legget & Platt mechanism, which is very stiff, and it is really hard to move the chair with your body. That is why the power recline is quite important. In this case you do not really care which mechanism is underneath - the motor moves it.

The 45004 has CMAX cushion, the 13175 does not. While CMAX cushion is nice, I do not think it is "that much better". The 13175 also has wider seat - 25" vs. 23.5"

Overall they are both nice and quite comparable.

chad,



These are quite different recliners. The 45004 is domestically made and uses Berkline proprietary mechanism. If you choose manual recliner vs. motorized go for the 45004s. The 13175 has Legget & Platt mechanism, which is very stiff, and it is really hard to move the chair with your body. That is why the power recline is quite important. In this case you do not really care which mechanism is underneath - the motor moves it.

The 45004 has CMAX cushion, the 13175 does not. While CMAX cushion is nice, I do not think it is "that much better". The 13175 also has wider seat - 25" vs. 23.5"

Overall they are both nice and quite comparable.

Roman: Thanks for your continuing help. I think I'm liking the 13175. Measuring things, I think I could almost go with a 3 seat curved setup instead of straight. Do you see much advantage to going with a curved setup with only 3 chairs? My screen is 106" diag. 16:9 and around 11.5' viewing distance.

In terms of functional advantage you will basically have none. It only makes a difference when you have 5-6 seats in the row. In this case the curved configuration will put every viewer at the same distance to the screen. The curvature of 3 seat configuration is very slight and would not make much of effect. It will give you a bit more real estate in the armrest, though. The wedge armrests have wider areas in the back and will allow you to easier share it with some one sitting next to you. The curved configuration also has more appealing look to many people, but this is personal preference.

Chairs have arrived and are installed!

Roman was great to work with and the chairs are fantastic!

Thank you Roman!

I think I'm liking the 13175. Measuring things, I think I could almost go with a 3 seat curved setup instead of straight.

If you are price sensitive, I know that Ashley is half way between Coaster and Berkline and may serve as an alternative. Folks on this forum tend to serve as part-time cheerleaders for either Coaster or Berkline and therefore you may not be presented with any other altneratives.

Instead of going curved, maybe you should noodle figuring out how to fit a fourth seat?

If someone isn't familiar with home theater and you asked them want it should cost to seat 3 people in leather, they would probably think $1K is reasonable...

As promised, here are a few pictures for those who might be interested in the 078s. First picture has all the chairs, second and third show close-ups of the cup holder without and with the insert, fourth shows two chairs with and without aluminum cup holder. Glad I went with the inserts. They finish the look of the chairs.


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Folks,

I will announce the PB winners in a day or two. I was out for a week, so excuse the delay.

Roman;

We have spoken before I have a set of three 090 (Cut&Saw?). What would be a good match for those if I wanted another row, but with arm storage? Do they offer a wedge table with storage or something like the gamer chair set I could buy to use with the 090s.

Don,

If you have the 090s in 7049-29, than the only options are other 090s or 099s. Nothing else including the consoles is available in this leather. The 7049 has a pebbled look, and currently the Berkline has no other leather in BLACK which will perfectly match to it. They used to have 7009 leather that was similar, but not any more.

Roman,

Do the throw blankets ship with the chairs at the same time from Berkline? I received the bk mounts and aluminum cup inserts a couple weeks ago but no blankets.

Mike

Roman,

Is there are Berklines for dummies guide you can suggest. I need 6 chairs and have been looking at the 187's. I watch a lot of hockey so I think the little table will be sweet for the laptop to watch the scores of other games.

I am disapointed in the Berkline website that it is difficult to compare several models side by side with key features like you would be able to when shopping for a computer.

Width (of armless chair)
Back height
comparision of head support
etc.

Local stores only seem to carry 1 or 2 models so it is hard to compare in person.

Any suggestions.

Second, with the love seat configuration, the way I understand it, the two chairs do not connect... correct? Do people find they slide apart. We are doing this so my wife and I and my 6 year old can all sit on one and I don't want my daughter disappearing between the chairs.

Front row lOlOl
Back row lOOllOOl (with 2 wedges between the love seats)

thanks.

P.S. Probably should have let this thread die since the your power buy is over and either started a new thread or PM you. In my reading thus far I have not, however, seen the "sliding apart" question answered.

P.S.S. I did check out your web site as well but agian, has all the individual spec sheets rather than a summary/comparison. (They take forever to download on my crazy dial up access).:mad:

thanks again.

Mike,

The blankets will come separately. I have submitted all orders that were eligible for the blankets about 10 days ago. Now it is a wait time - sorry sometimes it takes a while before you get them, but all folks who were supposed to get the blankets will get them.

RPh Drew,

Sorry, but I do not have a comparison chart. I should probably have one on the side, and as soon as I have time, I will put one together.

Most of the armless loveseats - 87 have been discontinued. The only group that still has this option is 45003. You will not be able to use it anyway because of the way you would like to configure your seating. You still can configure it with separate recliners, and no, they would not slide apart, especially if you put them on the carpet.

Is this power buy still on? can the seller please PM me. I am interested in buying a berkline pretty soon. And i would like to discuss the options. Thanks.

I'd be interested to know if the deals were going on still too. I'm in the market...pretty much in the "I need it now" market for a couple Berklines, but might be willing to listen to a lesser alternative.

Anyone?

please PM me too if there are any decent deals on berkline or any other alternatives.

Thanks.

Mike,

The blankets will come separately. I have submitted all orders that were eligible for the blankets about 10 days ago. Now it is a wait time - sorry sometimes it takes a while before you get them, but all folks who were supposed to get the blankets will get them.




Just an FYI, I got my blankets today. Boxes were totally beat and ripped but the blankets appear to be ok. Funny because Berkline left the leaflet on the outside that identified the contents as the 'cozy blanket sale'.

Just an FYI, I got my blankets today. Boxes were totally beat and ripped but the blankets appear to be ok. Funny because Berkline left the leaflet on the outside that identified the contents as the 'cozy blanket sale'.

Received my blankets a few days ago. Box was fine. They were a nice surprise, as I didn't know I was getting them. Nice blankets.

I received the Berklines today and it was a pretty painless process overall. The delivery people knocked a couple feet loose but that is an easy fix. These chairs are very supportive and comfortable, the power headrest is perfect. Thanks again Roman for the help in the decision making process.

The recline mechanism is very stout and smooth, not to mention to body support is outstanding!

Roman you have a PM

Here are a few pictures

http://www.amptechsupply.com/pers/pers/berkline/4.jpg

http://www.amptechsupply.com/pers/pers/berkline/5.jpg

http://www.amptechsupply.com/pers/pers/berkline/6.jpg

Mike,

I did not get any pm from you.

Roman

I just sent an email instead, its an order for isolators and mooaawr buttkickers, lol.

Mike,

I did not get any pm from you.

Roman

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