Dave G
01-27-08, 02:46 PM
Yesterday I brought my XD over to my friend Wayne's (funlvr1965) place. Wayne's theater is going to be featured in the March issue of Electronic House, and you can see the article online here (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=966319). Cool place to say the least!
We didn't really have a shootout in mind to start with. Wayne wanted an opportunity to check out the XD (he's thinking about getting one), and since I'm pretty familiar with the XD by now, I was curious about checking out the D2's menus for comparing functionality. I'm NOT thinking about getting one, I was merely curious :).
As far as video processing functionality is concerned, the D2 doesn't even come close to matching the XD. The XD has multiple input AND output configuration memories, each with its own set of adjustments (including a now fully functional CMS). The Gennum processor in the XD is a better and more recent version of the one used by the D2, and on top of this Lumagen uses its own algorithms for a lot of the XD's functionality (in fact the Gennum in the XD is only used for deinterlacing and image enhancement features, everything else, including the 'no-ring' scaling, is done in a separate processor programmed by Lumagen). The suite of internal test patterns offered is more extensive in the XD. Etc. Now, keep in mind the following:
- the D2 is also a world-class preamp. Obviously the XD is not, you will need a separate receiver or preamp.
- even though the XD has the D2 beat in the video processing department (see below), that doesn't make the D2 a slouch. Far from it.
- the D2 is far easier to use. Seeing Wayne navigate the menus, I think anybody with a modicum of AV experience would be able to pick up on the functionality and do a basic setup pretty fast. Not so with the XD - don't count on getting anywhere without reading the manual first. This is partly due to the flexibility mentioned above; it does come with a price.
We first tried to figure out how to configure the XD for Wayne's 2.35 scope screen. His theater sports a BenQ 10000 + anamorphic lens, I have no such setup so never tried to figure out how to configure the XD for an anamorphic setup in the first place. Fortunately that wasn't too hard, and once we figured it out an obvious advantage of the XD over the D2 became apparent; the XD automatically detects the aspect ratio of the source and scales accordingly, the D2 doesn't. Once the D2 is setup for 2.35, 1.78 material is cropped at the top and bottom. The D2 just doesn't seem ideal for this type of setup, or at least not as convenient as the XD.
Now if you're not familiar with anamorphic lens setups, the goal is to use the full panel of the projector and project onto a 2.35 AR screen. This is done by a processor (external or within the projector for those that support it) stretching the 2.35 picture vertically and then the lens stretches the image horizontally to fill the screen. So scaling is involved.
We put in "Live Free or Die Hard" (BR) in the PS3. We settled on an early scene in the movie, where McLane pulls a guy out of a car and starts arguing with his daughter. In this scene the point of view moves around the car and at some point focuses on McLane and the other guy. They are behind the car, and the background is filled with buildings. We paused right there, and started to switch between the XD and the D2. The problem here is that it wasn't a quick switch (Wayne was behind the rack rearranging the connections), making it difficult to do a real A/B, but after a few times back and forth, the differences between the two became clear. The silhouettes of McLane and the guy were noticeably sharper with the XD than the D2. In fact with the XD they were very distinct from the background, whereas they tended to blend in with the D2. The XD gave the scene a much more '3D' look which was also apparent when playing (not just pausing). And that's with a pretty noisy source material! (And out-of-the-box settings for the XD.)
Now don't me wrong. As I said above the D2 didn't look bad, far from it. It's just that the XD looked better. Also note that the difference may or may not be apparent in every setup, but Wayne's BenQ is sharp as a tack, which I think accentuated the difference.
Unfortunately we didn't have enough time to compare the other features (deinterlacing, noise reduction, etc). A shootout wasn't really what we had in mind anyway, but this little test made me feel that much better about the XD :). I haven't been able to really get a feel for the no-ring scaling so far because the XD doesn't output to the native resolution of my plasma. Also testing a DVD would have been great for comparing the scaling, but again, no time. Maybe next time!
We didn't really have a shootout in mind to start with. Wayne wanted an opportunity to check out the XD (he's thinking about getting one), and since I'm pretty familiar with the XD by now, I was curious about checking out the D2's menus for comparing functionality. I'm NOT thinking about getting one, I was merely curious :).
As far as video processing functionality is concerned, the D2 doesn't even come close to matching the XD. The XD has multiple input AND output configuration memories, each with its own set of adjustments (including a now fully functional CMS). The Gennum processor in the XD is a better and more recent version of the one used by the D2, and on top of this Lumagen uses its own algorithms for a lot of the XD's functionality (in fact the Gennum in the XD is only used for deinterlacing and image enhancement features, everything else, including the 'no-ring' scaling, is done in a separate processor programmed by Lumagen). The suite of internal test patterns offered is more extensive in the XD. Etc. Now, keep in mind the following:
- the D2 is also a world-class preamp. Obviously the XD is not, you will need a separate receiver or preamp.
- even though the XD has the D2 beat in the video processing department (see below), that doesn't make the D2 a slouch. Far from it.
- the D2 is far easier to use. Seeing Wayne navigate the menus, I think anybody with a modicum of AV experience would be able to pick up on the functionality and do a basic setup pretty fast. Not so with the XD - don't count on getting anywhere without reading the manual first. This is partly due to the flexibility mentioned above; it does come with a price.
We first tried to figure out how to configure the XD for Wayne's 2.35 scope screen. His theater sports a BenQ 10000 + anamorphic lens, I have no such setup so never tried to figure out how to configure the XD for an anamorphic setup in the first place. Fortunately that wasn't too hard, and once we figured it out an obvious advantage of the XD over the D2 became apparent; the XD automatically detects the aspect ratio of the source and scales accordingly, the D2 doesn't. Once the D2 is setup for 2.35, 1.78 material is cropped at the top and bottom. The D2 just doesn't seem ideal for this type of setup, or at least not as convenient as the XD.
Now if you're not familiar with anamorphic lens setups, the goal is to use the full panel of the projector and project onto a 2.35 AR screen. This is done by a processor (external or within the projector for those that support it) stretching the 2.35 picture vertically and then the lens stretches the image horizontally to fill the screen. So scaling is involved.
We put in "Live Free or Die Hard" (BR) in the PS3. We settled on an early scene in the movie, where McLane pulls a guy out of a car and starts arguing with his daughter. In this scene the point of view moves around the car and at some point focuses on McLane and the other guy. They are behind the car, and the background is filled with buildings. We paused right there, and started to switch between the XD and the D2. The problem here is that it wasn't a quick switch (Wayne was behind the rack rearranging the connections), making it difficult to do a real A/B, but after a few times back and forth, the differences between the two became clear. The silhouettes of McLane and the guy were noticeably sharper with the XD than the D2. In fact with the XD they were very distinct from the background, whereas they tended to blend in with the D2. The XD gave the scene a much more '3D' look which was also apparent when playing (not just pausing). And that's with a pretty noisy source material! (And out-of-the-box settings for the XD.)
Now don't me wrong. As I said above the D2 didn't look bad, far from it. It's just that the XD looked better. Also note that the difference may or may not be apparent in every setup, but Wayne's BenQ is sharp as a tack, which I think accentuated the difference.
Unfortunately we didn't have enough time to compare the other features (deinterlacing, noise reduction, etc). A shootout wasn't really what we had in mind anyway, but this little test made me feel that much better about the XD :). I haven't been able to really get a feel for the no-ring scaling so far because the XD doesn't output to the native resolution of my plasma. Also testing a DVD would have been great for comparing the scaling, but again, no time. Maybe next time!