Are there any plasmas that will process 1080p/24 signals? I was just a Circuit City yesterday and I noticed a few lcds ie. Sony XBR, Samsung that stated they could process 1080p/24. I didn't see any plasmas that made this same claim. In fact there was a sammy lcd and a panny 77u hooked up to a bd player and both were displaying the same movie. The panny was definitely more subdued while the sammy just popped at you. I checked the bd player and noticed that it stated it could ouput 1080/24 and 1080/60 so I am assuming they had it set for 1080/60 so the panny could process the signal. I really don't see how important it is for a display to be able to process a 1080/24 signal. I know about judder but have yet to see it on any display. I did notice that all the other tvs (lcd and plasma) were hooked up to espn hd anf I've got to say that all the 1080p displays really looked bad. The 720p displays looked alot better showing the 720 signal.

Pioneer's will...i have PDP-4270HD and PDP-5080HD and both do it..

Judder is something you have seen your whole life, first with NTSC (480i60) displays and now with ATSC (1080i60 and 720p60) displays. Judder is caused by the uneven frame conversion (telecine) used to sync 24Hz film with fixed 60Hz displays.

Most people do not notice judder - until they learn how, and then they cannot help but notice it forever after, until they get a display with 48/72/96/120Hz refresh. You can save some money by stopping your research into this topic NOW, before somebody teaches you how to notice judder, as the defect is quite plainly visible if you know how and where to look for it.

Judder is something you have seen your whole life, first with NTSC (480i60) displays and now with ATSC (1080i60 and 720p60) displays. Judder is caused by the uneven frame conversion (telecine) used to sync 24Hz film with fixed 60Hz displays.

Most people do not notice judder - until they learn how, and then they cannot help but notice it forever after, until they get a display with 48/72/96/120Hz refresh. You can save some money by stopping your research into this topic NOW, before somebody teaches you how to notice judder, as the defect is quite plainly visible if you know how and where to look for it.

Thanks Gary.You're right. I should stop looking for something that will just drive me crazy. I've been so caught up on checking to see if a tv's specs indicate it will accept a 1080p/24 signal that I've been ignoring the video performance by some really good tvs. Now I'm starting to look at LCDs as well as plasmas. The lcds are really starting to catch up to the plasmas.

You can save some money by stopping your research into this topic NOW, before somebody teaches you how to notice judder, as the defect is quite plainly visible if you know how and where to look for it.

Quoted for truth. That said, I am really digging the way 1080p/24 content looks on my Pioneer 5080 running in PureCinema Advance mode (72 Hz).