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vsv
01-31-08, 06:22 PM
Anybody have seen replicated 3xDVD with HD content in the market?

allargon
01-31-08, 08:34 PM
Anybody have seen replicated 3xDVD with HD content in the market?

Yes, the adult film Pirates is a 720p 3x DVD. If I had a Xbox 360 add-on, I suspect based on the noise that "Method Man: Live from the Sunset Strip" generates that it, too, is one as well.

cobolisdead
01-31-08, 10:42 PM
So it's a triple layer 13 Gig DVD?

DJ79
02-01-08, 12:16 AM
No, it's a DVD9 that spins 3x faster to achieve HD bitrates.

lostcase
02-01-08, 07:02 AM
No, it's a DVD9 that spins 3x faster to achieve HD bitrates.

Are you serious?

MovieSwede
02-01-08, 07:35 AM
Are you serious?

Yes he is

DVD = 10mbs (more or less)
HD DVD = 30mbs

10 x3 = 30

But that doesnt mean you run the DVD at full mux

You just uses the peak.


Example you have a movie recorded at 720/24P at 100 minutes

avarage bitrate of 8mbs and a DD640 track = 6,5 gb

vsv
02-01-08, 02:31 PM
Yes, the adult film Pirates is a 720p 3x DVD. If I had a Xbox 360 add-on, I suspect based on the noise that "Method Man: Live from the Sunset Strip" generates that it, too, is one as well.

Digital Playground "Pirates" was released in 2005 as boxet with wmvhd 720p (as DVD-ROM not 3xDVD!) and two DVD's.
http://www.soundstageav.com/audiovideotrends/20060201.htm

3xDVD not the same as WMVHD!

Topweasel
02-01-08, 02:45 PM
Digital Playground "Pirates" was released in 2005 as boxet with wmvhd 720p (as DVD-ROM not 3xDVD!) and two DVD's.
http://www.soundstageav.com/audiovideotrends/20060201.htm

3xDVD not the same as WMVHD!

Obviously you do not read the Adult HD DVD thread very often. I have the Pirates HD DVD (not a DVD with a windows media file on it), and yes its still 720P and yes it still uses a DVD9 disc. Whether it is a DVD3x I don't know, and personally I doubt it. 1080 encodes apparently can average as low as 12-15 Mbs I could see a 720 encode not requiring the disc to spin faster.

vsv
02-01-08, 04:16 PM
Topweasel
On digitalplayground only listed old release "Pirates" WMVHD and newest
on BD only. But i more interested in sport, music video content (40-60min) on 3xDVD than in adult films.
3xDVD advantage for people who have HD DVD players (blue laser) but also for every PC with red laser $30 DVD-ROM + player as powerDVD7 or winDVD8.

3xDVD with web connect is very good solution to promote HD DVD.

helloitsme
02-01-08, 05:14 PM
I heard the Living Landscape series were 3X titles.

Topweasel
02-01-08, 06:19 PM
Topweasel
On digitalplayground only listed old release "Pirates" WMVHD and newest
on BD only. But i more interested in sport, music video content (40-60min) on 3xDVD than in adult films.
3xDVD advantage for people who have HD DVD players (blue laser) but also for every PC with red laser $30 DVD-ROM + player as powerDVD7 or winDVD8.

3xDVD with web connect is very good solution to promote HD DVD.

Didn't search well enough. Go to the site their is a link to Pirates on the side. Their are four options, The DVD, The Audio CD, The HD DVD, and the BD. The DVD one is the three disc set that includes the WMVHD. The HD DVD and the BD are the correctly titled. I know the HD DVD is an HD9 disc as for it running at 3x I have no idea but again its a true HD DVD disc. I wouldn't be surprised if the BD is the same way (Warner did get BD9 into the specs).

Side note. All three versions, including the BD are really sold as the DVD primarily. The HD and BD discs much like the WMVHD disc are the last disc in the three disc set.

vsv
02-02-08, 08:13 AM
I've found info about nice HD content (50-60 min) duplicated onto 3xDVD (DVD5-R).

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Bennett-Watt HD Productions Releases High Definition (HD) Easy Listening Music DVD's & HD DVD's

"Discoveries…America Music, Sunrise Sunset w/ Gary Jess. This is the first of many HDDVD & DVD products that perfectly showcase incredible HD images with piano accompaniment of Gary Jess."

United States of America (Press Release) November 6, 2007 -- This is the first of many HDDVD & DVD products that perfectly showcase incredible HD images with the musical brilliance of Steinway Artist, Gary Jess. Not only are these programs a virtual escape into the natural world, they offer a delightful digital background for a variety of environments and situations… home relaxation, reception areas, restaurants, dinner parties, plane/train/car travel, health care facilities and a myriad of other uses. Both the standard definition DVD’s and the high definition HDDVD’s are 52 minutes in length, playable in all regions and looped for hours of continuous play. DVD’s are $24.95 and HDDVD’s are $29.95 MSRP.

The “Discoveries…America Music” series is the latest collection from Bennett-Watt Entertainment Inc., which has been producing quality, informative, instructional, and entertainment programs since 1986 with over 300 titles released and more to come, say producers Kelly and Jim Watt. The Watt’s wanted to give people a chance to feast their eyes on the gorgeous, leisurely HD images they’ve acquired in the course of filming the Discoveries…America series, which consists of 51 - 1 hour documentaries on every state in the US, plus Washington, D.C. This spectacular high definition footage paired with the musical artistry of Gary Jess contains only music and pictures… without narration or distractions. Several other “Discoveries…America Music” titles are currently in production, including “New England”, “Water”, “Desert Southwest”, “Seasons” and “Nature & Wildlife”.

Pioneers in High Definition television & DVD production, Bennett-Watt Entertainment recently concluded 7 years of production of the acclaimed and award winning “Discoveries…” series of documentary programs. “Discoveries…Ireland” x 3, “Discoveries…Spain” x 7, “Discoveries…Argentina” x 4 and their most recent series filmed over the last 5 years “Discoveries…America” x 51, which are one hour HD collections of video essays on every single state in the U.S.A. plus Washington, D.C. Other projects include TV/video/DVD series “Fly Fishing Video Magazine”, “Hooked On Fly Tying”, “How To Fly Fish”, “New Hooked On Fly Tying”, “Fly Fishing Adventure” & “Baking with Sweet Addition”.


For more information:

13021 244th Ave SE, Issaquah, WA 98027, PH 425-392-3935, Info@Bennett-Watt.com, www.Bennett-Watt.com
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And another information provided by Jim Watt:

We've had excellent luck authoring HD DVD's in DVDSP using a 720P master and the H264 codec in compressor. We get an hour program on a DVD 5 with enough room left over for a motion menu at the beginning. We're doing them for distribution, replicating in a 7 burner tower.

The three titles we've produced, we market on our own website. "Discoveries...America Music, Sunrise/Sunset", "Discoveries...America Music, New England" and "Discoveries...Argentina, Patagonia". We've sold several hundred and have had no complaints.
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Imho, this is a right way for small studios: 3xDVD duplicated in hundreds on DVD5/9/10-R.
For authoring HD-DVD content we have non expensive tools:
Ulead DMF6 (bad is only support only mpeg2 - need vc1 and h264)
NetBlender DoStudio (HDi authoring + multiplexer from Corel/Ulead for mpeg2/vc1/h264)
Apple DVD Studio Pro4 (mpeg2 and h264 with old-style DVD menu)

Now i need (looking for) info about replicated 3xDVD.

ewitte
02-02-08, 07:51 PM
Do those things play in an a3?

thrustbucket
02-02-08, 10:30 PM
Do those things play in an a3?

Yes, 3xdvd is part of the HD DVD spec, it has to play in all of them.

My question is, how easy is it to author one from an HD file on my computer?

ewitte
02-03-08, 09:51 AM
Yes, 3xdvd is part of the HD DVD spec, it has to play in all of them.

My question is, how easy is it to author one from an HD file on my computer?

I'm doing a quick test using Uled Movie Studio. It has a HD-DVD option but its 25Mbit MPEG-2.

fatherom
02-03-08, 10:13 AM
Yes, 3xdvd is part of the HD DVD spec, it has to play in all of them.

My question is, how easy is it to author one from an HD file on my computer?

There's already a massive thread and wealth of information about this topic, as a sticky thread "The Official Guide to HD-DVD Authoring".

ewitte
02-03-08, 12:00 PM
There's already a massive thread and wealth of information about this topic, as a sticky thread "The Official Guide to HD-DVD Authoring".

Thanks.

stevenjw
02-03-08, 03:01 PM
There's already a massive thread and wealth of information about this topic, as a sticky thread "The Official Guide to HD-DVD Authoring".

Correct. Once you have all of the correct software installed, the process is works when followed. I've captured and converted all of my HDV tapes from my Sony camcorder to DVD-R which holds about 60 minutes of HD.

However, after going neutral and getting a PS3 this time last year, I found it much easier to simply move the source .m4p files to a portable HDD and viewing them from the PS3. Simply plug and play from the USB 2.0 connected HDD.

I don't have Vista or MS Media Center, just XP, and haven't been able to get the PS3 to recognize my PC as a media server, but imagine that this feature allows for viewing HDV or AVCHD files directly from the PC. Eliminating the need for converting and burning to DVD-R does have advantages.

ewitte
02-03-08, 03:45 PM
Usually I just run a long hdmi cable and watch directly off the PC ;)

MovieSwede
02-03-08, 03:49 PM
There would be pointless to use anything but a DVD5 for content under 20 minutes. And it would work very well for content under 40 minutes.

hifipj
02-10-08, 03:47 PM
My favorite selection of 3xdvd HD-DVDs - Candid-HD.com. These are nudist/naturist 1080p videos shot on naturist beaches in Eastern Europe.

http://candid-hd.com/catalog/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=67

http://www.candid-hd.com/

Pat

vsv
02-12-08, 04:19 PM
Thuringia-based CDA has started production of the first 3X-format DVDs thus expanding its range by another innovative product. "The 3X-DVD is a lower-cost alternative for our customers to replicate video content in HD quality ", said Dr Nicolaus Hettler, Managing Director of CDA. (http://www.cda.de/en/News/CDA_News/site__38/content_news_detail__633/back_cont_id__38/)

BIG ED
02-12-08, 04:27 PM
I've found info about nice HD content duplicated onto 3xDVD (DVD5-R)...

Thanks for posting!