I didn't see this posted anywhere and thought it might have some relvance considering a lot of PS3 owners thoughts on EA and the inferior game / ports they give us when compared to the xbox.

Perhaps this will change their thinking and we get at least equivelants such as 60fps Madden!!!

http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/04/ea-bets-ps3-will-best-xbox-360-sales-in-2008/

sorry if this was already posted, but I searched and couldn't find it.

smack

EA also recently said (in the last week or so) that they have a much easier time of things when the PS3 is the lead development platform, but not so much when they lead with the 360.

I think EA could be moving towards leading on the PS3 with all of their future titles, and I think this bodes well for the PS3 as a platform.

These kind of threads are not allowed here. (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=785982)

While it's not technically supposed to be here, I'm glad it was posted because it at least indicates that EA has some intention (or necessity if they want to earn $) to make better games for the ps3. I bought madden 08 and was very upset with the results. I knew it wasn't top notch, but after seeing the 360 version, it was the most disappointing release I've seen.

Hopefully we can balance the developments and see better games from EA over the coming year!

These kind of threads are not allowed here. (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=785982)

It's not really a PS3 outselling blank thread though which it is my understanding are not allowed because they're pointless flamebait. This is actually a pretty interesting piece of news especially considering EA hasn't done all that well with the PS3 up until just recently with Burnout Paradise. It's not so much about EA thinking the PS3 will overthrow the 360 and Wii as it is about EA starting to really back the PS3 which means nothing but good things for PS3 owners.

If EA knew what it was doing its stock wouldn't be a total dog.

It most also be pointed out that EA is basing this strictly off European sells, it makes no prediction of PS3 victory in NA.

Wow. We lost a lot of posts with the server outage.

I'd like the next series of EA sports games (hockey and basketball especially for me) to run at a solid 60fps and play great.

It most also be pointed out that EA is basing this strictly off European sells, it makes no prediction of PS3 victory in NA.

OT: Is this a geographical thing, or what?

Number of units sold is sales (not sells). When money is exchanged for a good in the current time period, it sells (not sales).

ESL?

It most also be pointed out that EA is basing this strictly off European sells, it makes no prediction of PS3 victory in NA.
Actually, they're predicting (http://ps3.ign.com/articles/849/849264p1.html?RSSwhen2008-02-04_071900&RSSid=849264) that the PS3 will tie the 360 in NA, and trounce the 360 in the EU.

Originally Posted by methos75
It most also be pointed out that EA is basing this strictly off European sells, it makes no prediction of PS3 victory in NA.

Electronic Arts has just released predicted hardware sales for the coming year, with the Xbox 360 predicted to sell between 6 to 8 million units in North America and Europe, while the PS3 is expected to shift 9.5 to 11.5 million units.
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I'd like the next series of EA sports games (hockey and basketball especially for me) to run at a solid 60fps and play great.

Hey Brian add me to your friends list on PSN:) I recently just got a PS3 about 2 weeks ago.I don't have any online games currently but when i get one i'll play with ya sometime.:D

My PSN ID is in my sig below.

For the record.. EA predicted the exact same thing last year.. and the 360 still outsold the PS3 by a million worldwide and 2 to 1 in North America (EA's strongest market).

It doesnt take a rocket scientist to figure out as the PS3 base naturally grows and as each year of experience passes by. Developers will be able more invest more time tweaking their software and tapping into new resources to deliver more impressive titles not just on the PS3.. but every console they code for.

In case you forgot.. Madden ran at 30fps for 2 years on the 360 before EA got it to run at 60fps this year. Give the PS3 another year or so and it will be at 60fps too.

In the end threads like this are an absolute waste. They serve little purpose other than another "mines is better than yours" debate which never ends well. And thats the reason why arent encouraged here.

Hey Brian add me to your friends list on PSN:) I recently just got a PS3 about 2 weeks ago.I don't have any online games currently but when i get one i'll play with ya sometime.:D

My PSN ID is in my sig below.

You got it my friend. I haven't been gaming much online the last few months as I've been so busy with family stuff! Then again I didn't have many achievement points on my live account when I was gaming much more as well. I've played COD4 once online and I received it as a Christmas gift and haven't had a chance to try out URIII yet online.

Most of the time I've been gaming is with Uncharted :D


Gamertag is the same as it was on Live: goatmother

If you haven't added Avarice, you want him on your side not against you, lol. Same with William Mapstone!

For the record.. EA predicted the exact same thing last year.Link? I don't remember EA predicting anything like that last year, but I could certainly be forgetting or have missed it.

Hilarious that you say:

In the end threads like this are an absolute waste. They serve little purpose other than another "mines is better than yours" debate which never ends well. And thats the reason why arent encouraged here.

While making the totally unfounded claim:

For the record.. EA predicted the exact same thing last year.. and the 360 still outsold the PS3 by a million worldwide and 2 to 1 in North America (EA's strongest market).

http://www.gameblews.com/?p=6116

You're the reason these topics aren't allowed.

Hilarious that you say:


While making the totally unfounded claim:


http://www.gameblews.com/?p=6116

You're the reason these topics aren't allowed.


And here we go with the meaningless "mines is bigger than yours" debates.

http://vgchartz.com/hwtable.php?cons%5B%5D=PS3&cons%5B%5D=X360&reg%5B%5D=Total&start=39089&end=39446

VGChartz Hardware data for the period(week ending) 07th Jan 2007 to 30th Dec 2007:

Console PS3 X360
Total 7,648,121 8,156,665




Source:

www.vgchartz.com






Next question?

lol.. please... VGchartz?

Gameblews???

pleaaaase..



(Are you seeing how meaningless this is yet?)

If it's so meaningless, why do you keep posting? :p

You've successfully contradicted yourself in just about every comment. It's like when people say, "No offense but...", and then proceed to say something offensive. Saying it's "meaningless", or it will "serve little purpose", while simultaneously making bogus claims, is very ironic. That's all I wanted to point out.

But please, don't let me stop you from touting your sales numbers across the intarwebz to prove, "mines bigger than yours".

Hilarious that you say.. While making the totally unfounded claim.. You're the reason these topics aren't allowed..

So by your logic.. I'm supposed to get called a unfounded fool and the reason why these topics are allowed.. and sit back.. never bothering to respond.

BUT!! By the same token.. If I do offer my share of evidence.. linking to best proven website I have found to underline where I pull my facts from.. in an effort to prove I wasnt pulling figures out my azz.. then I'm the suddenly bad guy.

Clearly Dubbucket you are an absolute genuis. You come in an incite a response making accusatory remarks. And then runaway pointing fingers. Please dont blame me for stealing your technique in the future.

So by your logic.. I'm supposed to get called a unfounded fool and the reason why these topics are allowed.. and sit back.. never bothering to respond.

BUT!! By the same token.. If I do offer my share of evidence.. linking to best proven website I have found to underline where I pull my facts from.. in an effort to prove I wasnt pulling figures out my azz.. then I'm the suddenly bad guy.

Clearly Dubbucket you are an absolute genuis. You come in an incite a response making accusatory remarks. And then runaway pointing fingers. Please dont blame me for stealing your technique in the future.

Oops, I've been discovered :D

I never called you a fool, but, to be fair, you did post something unfounded and potentially inflammatory. Yes, I called you on it, which I probably shouldn't have. What can I say? There's a little defensive fanboy in all of us... which is why these threads are not allowed.

If you notice, I didn't make any claims one way or the other. I just linked to a random blog which, btw, has just as much credibility as the "proven" VGchartz.

There, now we're both bad guys. Hopefully the mods don't strike us down with too much wrath.. but, for the record, mine IS bigger than yours :p

nerds

VGChartz Hardware data for the period(week ending) 07th Jan 2007 to 30th Dec 2007:

Console PS3 X360
Total 7,648,121 8,156,665

hmmm... I expected the 360 to be much farther ahead of the PS3 in 2007 with the Halo 3 release. I guess MS was smart to get a 1 year head start... if these numbers are correct, I can see how the PS3 will out sell the 360 in 2008...

It most also be pointed out that EA is basing this strictly off European sells, it makes no prediction of PS3 victory in NA.
Why should it, since the worldwide numbers are already has the PS3 out in front by over a million consoles in 2007 as widely publicized elsewhere.

Damn. It's a video game console. Don't let your panties pop off.

My post got deleted so I'll post it again.

The title of this thread should be changed. It is written almost exactly as the moderator's thread title warning about what it's not allowed in the forum. Furthermore, it is an invitation for 360 and PS3 fanboys to start a war, which seems to be happening already.

I don't really care who EA throws their support behind as long as they stop making craptastic ports of decent games from 360. At least put some effort into it.

Thread title changed.

This thread is not a flaming thread. It is a thread about the prospects of EA possibly doing more lead development on the PS3 vs the other systems.

If you feel a need to flame, please go elsewhere. If you don't like the prediction by EA, well I'm sorry but it is news. This has nothing to do with who is selling more than others, rather who EA THINKS is going to sell more and thus may support that system with lead developments rather than ports.

Now Activision is predicting victory for the XB360 over the PS3 in 2008. Conclusion, nobody knows anything.

http://www.maxconsole.net/?mode=news&newsid=25024

Now Activision is predicting victory for the XB360 over the PS3 in 2008. Conclusion, nobody knows anything.

http://www.maxconsole.net/?mode=news&newsid=25024

Well, they are still predicting PS3 victory in worldwide sales (including Europe, Japan, and other territories), but the X360 will still have a lead in the NA market.

The difference is minor, but the overall message looks about the same. 2008 is the year of the PS3, it seems.

To me its not the PS3's year unless it wins in NA, honestly as a gamer in NA, if the PS3 outsells the XB360 in Europe or Asia means little to nothing to me, because those regions only have the slightest of influences on our marketplace gaming wise due to the wise gap in tastes.

To me its not the PS3's year unless it wins in NA, honestly as a gamer in NA, if the PS3 outsells the XB360 in Europe or Asia means little to nothing to me, because those regions only have the slightest of influences on our marketplace gaming wise due to the wise gap in tastes.

I don't understand that. If the 360 sells half a mil more in the states, what difference is that going to make to you, as a gamer? I doubt anyone is going to stop development or cancel games, just because of a 10% or so market difference.

The wide margins in Europe and Japan, on the other hand, are going to influence the games available to you. That, imo, means much more than who "wins" in the corporate pissing contest.

Well, they are still predicting PS3 victory in worldwide sales (including Europe, Japan, and other territories)…
Do you happen to have a link for that? All I can find is an NA prediction.

I don't understand that. If the 360 sells half a mil more in the states, what difference is that going to make to you, as a gamer? I doubt anyone is going to stop development or cancel games, just because of a 10% or so market difference.

The wide margins in Europe and Japan, on the other hand, are going to influence the games available to you. That, imo, means much more than who "wins" in the corporate pissing contest.


Because that half mil more in sells in NA means more to me than what it is doing in Japan, because as history has shown, those markets also care more about that half mil lead in NA than which is winning in their home territory. Look at the 16 bit era, the SNES and PC Engine dominated in Asia, but the slight early lead the Genesis had in NA and later the constant flip-flopping between the two forced Japanese devs to both port their SNES titles and to ensure a steady flow of Genesis exclusives to capitalize on NA sells. That was more than 15 years ago when the NA market was arguably much less important than it is currently. Now with the NA game market the most important one by a vast degree, this will be an even bigger issue this gen than it was in the 16 bit era.

There is also the Wii factor, for all the PS3 to lead in 2008 stories, one thing not mentioned is that everyone thinks the XB360 and PS3 will only be around 1-2 million different in sells going either way. They all see the Wii having 2-4 Million lead. What does that meaqn, even in regions where the PS3 will beat the XB360, it will still be decimated by the Wii and not the true winner. That means that with such a low salesw disparity between the PS3 and XB360, it will remain in Devs best interest to capitalize on the still Strong XB360 sells in Europe, and what could be continued dominance in NA. So yes, in the end as long as the XB360 stays dominant in NA, what the PS3 does elsewhere will not be a huge factor on either and the status as we see now will probably continue.

Do you happen to have a link for that? All I can find is an NA prediction.

It pretty much says that in the article methos75 linked to. The article says Activision's predictions are "in line with EA's" (read: PS3 still wins by the ~5 million margin in europe).

Even if you just look at the NA prediction, "4-5 million units sold for Xbox 360, 3-4 million for PS3," that's pretty nothing when you consider the huge margins that the PS3 wins by in Europe and Japan.

Something else to keep in mind, since so far not one so called expert prediction has came to be accurate, why think this one will?

It pretty much says that in the article methos75 linked to. The article says Activision's predictions are "in line with EA's" (read: PS3 still wins by the ~5 million margin in europe).

Even if you just look at the NA prediction, "4-5 million units sold for Xbox 360, 3-4 million for PS3," that's pretty nothing when you consider the huge margins that the PS3 wins by in Europe and Japan.
I'm not sure if you can infer that. The linked article (and all of the articles I've found) say that "Activision released predictions for North America."

methos, European sales are relevant, because pretty much the same games sell here as there. That's why EA included them in their "market" prediction, while ignoring Japan. That's also why I don't understand why Activision left Europe out, especially when EA's total predictions for Europe equal or exceed Activision's predictions for NA. So basically, the EU is half of the "market." Does Activision have trouble moving software on the other side of the pond? Is there a reason for them to ignore it?

Here is my prediction: They will all sell a lot of consoles.

I feel confident that there will plenty of great content coming out for my PS3 in the months and years to come.

Good nuff for me!

Something else to keep in mind, since so far not one so called expert prediction has came to be accurate, why think this one will?
It's not so much about accuracy, as what the developers think will happen, and where they will consequently focus their efforts. EA has already begun shifting to the PS3 as the lead platform for development.

I'm not sure if you can infer that. The linked article (and all of the articles I've found) say that "Activision released predictions for North America."

methos, European sales are relevant, because pretty much the same games sell here as there. That's why EA included them in their "market" prediction, while ignoring Japan. That's also why I don't understand why Activision left Europe out, especially when EA's total predictions for Europe equal or exceed Activision's predictions for NA. So basically, the EU is half of the "market." Does Activision have trouble moving software on the other side of the pond? Is there a reason for them to ignore it?

That could be a pretty accurate reason, what were COD4 sells like In europe. that said like I pointed out the NA sells for the XB360 in the end will still keep the XB360 ahead in total sells overall, even with the margins EA is predicting that isn't enough for the PS3 to catch up nor surpass the XB360 so that has to be kept in mind.

Another thing to keep in mind is that the XB360 currently has the highest Software attach rate ever seen in the market according to sells data, with a between 6.9 to 8.0 software attach rate depending on who you believe. That attach rate virtually erases in advantage slightly higher PS3 console sells give the PS3, because at the numbers predicted Software sells are still in the XB360's favor.

That could be a pretty accurate reason, what were COD4 sells like In europe. that said like I pointed out the NA sells for the XB360 in the end will still keep the XB360 ahead in total sells overall, even with the margins EA is predicting that isn't enough for the PS3 to catch up nor surpass the XB360 so that has to be kept in mind.
When you say, "total sales," are you referring to the installed base?

If so, then yes, the 360 will still have a larger installed base, but that may be beginning to change. Don't forget, this generation is still young, and most people have yet to make any decision on which system to buy. Don't forget, there are more than twice as many PS2s out there as all next-gen systems combined.

When you say, "total sales," are you referring to the installed base?

If so, then yes, the 360 will still have a larger installed base, but that may be beginning to change. Don't forget, this generation is still young, and most people have yet to make any decision on which system to buy. Don't forget, there are more than twice as many PS2s out there as all next-gen systems combined.

Yes the overall install base, that said I feel that MS's gamble to get out first worked and IMO the only reason the PS2 did well in its first years to grab all the exclusives was because it was also released first. Being released first like that and grabbing a beachhead forces your late to the party rivals to have to sell double or triple what they usually do to catch up.

Another thing to keep in mind is that the XB360 currently has the highest Software attach rate ever seen in the market according to sells data, with a between 6.9 to 8.0 software attach rate depending on who you believe. That attach rate virtually erases in advantage slightly higher PS3 console sells give the PS3, because at the numbers predicted Software sells are still in the XB360's favor.
The PS3 has an attach rate of about 5, so the system that's been out for twice as long has sold less than twice as many games-per-console. I'm not sure if that's something to be proud of. :p

Yes the overall install base, that said I feel that MS's gamble to get out first worked and IMO the only reason the PS2 did well in its first years to grab all the exclusives was because it was also released first.
That decision by MS may come back to haunt them in the form of horrific reliability. I know several people that are considering unloading their 360s and buying PS3s instead, simply because they're tired of not being able to play their system.

Again, the tide seems to be shifting in Sony's direction, and there are still a lot of units to be sold this generation.

I really do not think Reliablity factors in much, the PSone and PS2 showed that. They were and still are as proven by real non bloated numbers, two of the most unrealiable consoles ever but look at their sells.

Hahahahaha!

RRoD is far more common than DRE ever was!

Now you're just grasping at straws. :p

Don't know about that, I actually replaced two DRE filled PS2's, still waiting on a RROD from my launch XB360.

The plural of "anecdote" is not "data." ;)

Don't know about that, I actually replaced two DRE filled PS2's, still waiting on a RROD from my launch XB360.

Ouch, 2 DRE's could've been fixed with a $.99 bottle of alcohol and a clean cloth. I hope you didn't fork out cash for those?

No both were actually due to faulty DVD drives that needed to be replaced, I got a bud who fixes consoles and he replaced them for me free of charge.

This thread went pure fanboy REAL quick.

Woah, this thread isn't locked yet? Not for my lack of trying :p

This thread was actually pretty cool until... well, we all know who... came into it. It's too bad. It's why threads like this are frowned upon here and why this one now needs to be locked.

Sorry to ruin the PS3 high-fiving with some actual you know, facts. Sorry but despite what EA says, the PS3 is not destinied to take 2000 anything, and without gaining a NA victory, the PS3 will never be the PS2.

Also still LOLIng over EA's prediction that the PAts were going to decimate the NYGs, EA sure is good at predicting.

Sorry to ruin the PS3 high-fiving with some actual you know, facts. Sorry but despite what EA says, the PS3 is not destinied to take 2000 anything, and without gaining a NA victory, the PS3 will never be the PS2.Right, we should take the great "methos75"'s predictions seriously but not EA and Activision's. LOL.

Your "facts" could use some good 'ol "fact checking". :rolleyes:

I made no prediction though did I, I simply stated that no prediction is worth putting stock into. The closest thing I have made to a prediction, is that it looks like its going to be a three console market with each region having a different market leader. Sony in Europe, Wii in Asia, and XB360 in NA, which is a pretty realistic prediction all things considered.

I made no prediction though did ISure you didn'tSorry but despite what EA says, the PS3 is not destinied to take 2000 anythingLook Ma, a prediction!

Anyway, I'm going to stop posting on this and wasting everyone's time.

Well thanks for ruining this thread guys.

This thread was about the potential of EA to use the PS3 as their lead platform in the future based on their own internal sales projections.
Methos, you are the type of poster responsible for why these threads are not allowed. I guess it was foolish for me to think that a thread like this would make it with guys like you posting. This isn't, nor was it ever about what system is better, who sells more, or who has a bigger software base. It also had nothing to do with actual sales numbers or DVD failures on the PS1 & PS2.

It was about EA and what they think the future holds. Since EA is not owned by MS or Sony, EA bases their decisions on which system will be the lead platform for designing on how it will affect their own bottom line.

Believe it or not, EA does not care about anyone or their "my system is better" views. They do what is best for their company.

The problem is that sales do determine rather EA uses the PS3 as its lead, that is just common sense. EA is going to take a hard look at two things and two things only, which console there Devs have more experiance on and which has the potential to give them the most sells, two things that the XB360 is currently in the lead for. People seem to think that the PS3 outselling the XB360 in Europe and Asia will propel EA and other US devs to drop the XB360 as their lead, and that IMO makes little sense. Why would EA care what the PS3 is doing in Japan when there games sell zilch there, please explain this logic to me? The same goes with Europe, why should EA, Activision, etc care if the PS3 outsells the XB360 there, when their games sell a fraction there of what they sell in NA, and according to EA, more than 60% of their game sells is on the XB360? That is my issue here, nobody is using logic to explain their position, and just thinking that because EA says that the PS3 will do better in Europe and Asia that some how leads to them now using the PS3 as their lead.

Hell their recent Dead Space BS shows this is false logic, they are still just as XB360 driven as before, and are continuing to use it as their lead. Hell they pretty much stated they were to lazy to learn how to dev properly for the PS3. Even their we will switch to the PS3 soon as the lead comment is idiotic once you really dissect it. So for now we can expect EA to do like 85% of their games on the XB360 as its lead, and then switch to the PS3 so they can hopefully ensure their games don't suck to bad compared to the XB360 version or maybe if God is willing, actually equal? Way to freaking go EA, I payed $200 more for my PS3 so I could get games equal to what I can also get on my $400 console, except minus the 1080p upscaling, custom soundtracks, and gamer points that version on the cheaper console offers. I payed to see superior version of those games, and that is not and probably will never be, what EA gives us based on their current endeavor which looks unlikely to change.

I am not trying to derail anything, I just want some of you to intelligently look at what EA is saying and Actually doing, before taking their statements and turning them around into something completely different that makes no logical sense on the surface. Not once did EA ever say anything about using the PS3 more as its lead console, that is something you guys illogically interjected, and that IMO is foolish. Especially in light of other recent EA comments, such as the one just two weeks ago about the PS3 being problematic to develop for. Are how about in Oct when they said that all three consoles were soon to be obsolete in light of recent PC upgrades and that the console industry was destined to Die. Are what about in Nov when they stated the PS3 has no chance against either the XB360 or Wii. My point, don't take anything EA says at face value. They will continue to shovel out Inferior PS3 ports, and their PS3 in 2008 prediction was nothing more than an effort to save face in light of Recent PS3 sells figures in Asia and Europe after EA predicted no more than three months ago the PS3 was doomed.

Software sales have been very good for the PS3 in the European region. Its been reported that both COD4 and Assassins Creed have broke the 1 million mark in the European region alone and many other games are also doing very well. Shoot even EA's own NFS:Pro Street has sold pretty well considering the game sucked...LOL. And remember this is with only 4 million consoles sold, and some of the PS3 are only being used as BD players. My point is that the European market is clearly important to the gaming industry and EA is taking notice...

Uhhhhh....hate to break this to you, but predications can be taken somewhat seriously, as they are often made by an informed analysts that analyze historical trends, market forces, and tangential markets that may have a bearing. It's a little more informed than the the verbal "spin the bottle" that has been happening here by an unanmed poster.

Uhhhhh....hate to break this to you, but predications can be taken somewhat seriously, as they are often made by an informed analysts that analyze historical trends, market forces, and tangential markets that may have a bearing. It's a little more informed than the the verbal "spin the bottle" that has been happening here by an unanmed poster.


Is that way none of the so called expert analyst predictions made in the last two years in regards to the console race have so far been correct? These same so called experts have made like a million predictions, every one in total odds with one another, and you guys still place faith in them. Its ridiculous, EA was calling for Sony to just drop the PS3 back in Nov because their "experts" predicted it had no chance. Now they are saying it is going to win, and I am expected to just believe them. Thats insane, especially when I can point out Nintendo analyst predictions that state the Wii will win 2008 and MS expert analyst that state 2008 is the year of the XB360.

http://www.gamesindustry.biz/content_page.php?aid=31891

http://www.gamegrep.com/news/6426-mcv_survey_xbox_360_will_win_nextgen_war/

The problem is that sales do determine rather EA uses the PS3 as its lead, that is just common sense. EA is going to take a hard look at two things and two things only, which console there Devs have more experiance on and which has the potential to give them the most sells, two things that the XB360 is currently in the lead for. People seem to think that the PS3 outselling the XB360 in Europe and Asia will propel EA and other US devs to drop the XB360 as their lead, and that IMO makes little sense. Why would EA care what the PS3 is doing in Japan when there games sell zilch there, please explain this logic to me? The same goes with Europe, why should EA, Activision, etc care if the PS3 outsells the XB360 there, when their games sell a fraction there of what they sell in NA, and according to EA, more than 60% of their game sells is on the XB360? That is my issue here, nobody is using logic to explain their position, and just thinking that because EA says that the PS3 will do better in Europe and Asia that some how leads to them now using the PS3 as their lead.

Hell their recent Dead Space BS shows this is false logic, they are still just as XB360 driven as before, and are continuing to use it as their lead. Hell they pretty much stated they were to lazy to learn how to dev properly for the PS3. Even their we will switch to the PS3 soon as the lead comment is idiotic once you really dissect it. So for now we can expect EA to do like 85% of their games on the XB360 as its lead, and then switch to the PS3 so they can hopefully ensure their games don't suck to bad compared to the XB360 version or maybe if God is willing, actually equal? Way to freaking go EA, I payed $200 more for my PS3 so I could get games equal to what I can also get on my $400 console, except minus the 1080p upscaling, custom soundtracks, and gamer points that version on the cheaper console offers. I payed to see superior version of those games, and that is not and probably will never be, what EA gives us based on their current endeavor which looks unlikely to change.

I am not trying to derail anything, I just want some of you to intelligently look at what EA is saying and Actually doing, before taking their statements and turning them around into something completely different that makes no logical sense on the surface. Not once did EA ever say anything about using the PS3 more as its lead console, that is something you guys illogically interjected, and that IMO is foolish. Especially in light of other recent EA comments, such as the one just two weeks ago about the PS3 being problematic to develop for. Are how about in Oct when they said that all three consoles were soon to be obsolete in light of recent PC upgrades and that the console industry was destined to Die. Are what about in Nov when they stated the PS3 has no chance against either the XB360 or Wii. My point, don't take anything EA says at face value. They will continue to shovel out Inferior PS3 ports, and their PS3 in 2008 prediction was nothing more than an effort to save face in light of Recent PS3 sells figures in Asia and Europe after EA predicted no more than three months ago the PS3 was doomed.

Better get your facts straight dude... There more software sold than u can imagine outside of the US.

ALSO FYI you might want to take your XBOX sales threads and stick them where they belong!

To me its not the PS3's year unless it wins in NA, honestly as a gamer in NA, if the PS3 outsells the XB360 in Europe or Asia means little to nothing to me, because those regions only have the slightest of influences on our marketplace gaming wise due to the wise gap in tastes.

Pfft... What makes this market so special? IMO global domination is much more appealing that one region. :confused:

X360 is as good as dead in JAPAN.

You can all argue all you want, you all know damn well that if this was EA saying the XB360 was going to win you all be pointing out how the Analyst are never right and correctly so. I am not arguing that the PS3 will not outsell the XB360, I am arguing that EA can no more accurately predict that they will than my cat can, as history has proven again and again and again.

methos, this thread was never about "which console will win" until you came in and made it about that. It's about how EA sees the market shaping up over the next year, and how that will affect their development strategy, if at all.

Believe it or not, your coming in here and stating that they, and everyone else, are retarded and don't know what they're talking about won't affect EA's strategy in the slightest.

And I have none nothing but discussed why EA's predictions are faulty at best and mine nothing, I have not once talked about sales in general. And seriously, lets be honest. This whole topic is in reality about sells because the whole point of the topic is about sells. That is the only true fact being reported, that EA thinks the PS3 will OUTSELL the Xb360. Everything else like say EA moving more stuff to the PS3, is just unsubstantiated fabrications made up by posters here, that have no factual basis in anything EA has said or done. The real issue here I think, is that I have shown why these predictions mean little and none here can can show me how I am wrong, so you all go and pull the troll card because we all know that when it comes to message boards and discussion boards, We don't really want to discuss anything unless its in our favor, and when you show us reality, then you must be a troll for posting the truth.

First of all, dude, please, it's "sales." "Sells" is a verb.

Okay, back to business. Do you understand that it doesn't matter whether or not EA's prediction is accurate? All that matters is that they feel it is accurate, because they use these predictions to help decide their strategy moving forward. The wheels of industry turn slowly. They can't look at the sales charts for last week and say, "Oh, look, the PS3 came in first last week. Quick! Change everything!!" It takes a year or more to develop a decent game, and they use these predictions to decide where best to focus their efforts, taking in to consideration the fact that their efforts won't bear fruit for a year or more.

Yes, a few months ago, they were predicting that the PS3 would fall further behind. That doesn't mean they were idiots then any more than a new prediction means they're idiots now. All it means is that as recently as a few months ago, they didn't feel it was worth their time to put maximum effort in to their PS3 versions, and the quality of their PS3 releases reflected this thinking. Now, they're rethinking that decision, both because they've learned it's ultimately easier for them to lead on the PS3 and then port to the 360 than vice versa, and because their experts are predicting a resurgence in PS3 sales in the markets they care about. (Just to be crystal clear, those markets and NA and the EU, because that's where their software sells. Japan has nothing to do with it, which is why they didn't make a prediction for that market, and why the only one that is beating that horse is you. He's dead, Jim.)

Also, they have no reason to pander to the PS3 fanboys, as you seem to be claiming. If anything, it would be in their best interest to hasten the demise of the PS3, as it would mean they would only have to develop for a single platform. This has nothing to do with influencing the market or kissing anyone's ass. It's all about where EA sees the market heading, and how they intend to react to that prediction.

Edit: And the notion of them moving to leading on the PS3 is not "unsubstantiated fabrication." In the span of less than two weeks, EA publicly stated that they have an easier time when they lead on the PS3, then they predicted that the PS3 would outsell the 360 this year, and then they announced that they would be changing the lead platform to the PS# for a title that was already well underway. All of this what we call a "clear pattern of events" and it's perfectly reasonable to assume that they will continue in the same fashion.

Originally posted by methos75
EA was calling for Sony to just drop the PS3 back in Nov because their "experts" predicted it had no chance.
Wow, did they really??? If so, I guess that would explain why some of there early efforts in developing games on the PS3 were lacking.

First of all, dude, please, it's "sales." "Sells" is a verb.


Thank you, thank you, thank you. :D

EA was calling for Sony to just drop the PS3 back in Nov because their "experts" predicted it had no chance.

Anyway, can you link where EA was calling for the PS3 to be dropped because it "had no chance"? The only article I remember was EA's desire for a single console because it would make development easier.

Wow, did they really??? If so, I guess that would explain why some of there early efforts in developing games on the PS3 were lacking.Methos, I'd love to see an official quote that states this. But don't worry, I won't hold my breath.

Actually, aren't you the same guy saying that EA claimed last year that the PS3 would outsell the 360, so we shouldn't listen to them this year? So EA thought the PS3 would outsell the 360, but also said Sony should drop the PS3? LOL.

Methos, I'd love to see an official quote that states this. But don't worry, I won't hold my breath.

Actually, aren't you the same guy saying that EA claimed last year that the PS3 would outsell the 360, so we shouldn't listen to them this year? So EA thought the PS3 would outsell the 360, but also said Sony should drop the PS3? LOL.

pssst - that wasn't Methos ;)

Here are some other awesome EA statements, and why I think anything they state is fluff to not be listened too. My issue here is not that the PS3 might outsell the XB360, who knows it could. Its listening to EA like they have some knowledge that we don't, when as history shows, they are always putting their foot in their mouths.

http://kotaku.com/gaming/ea/ea-dev-skip-the-ps3-235684.php

Here are some other awesome EA statements, and why I think anything they state is fluff to not be listened too. My issue here is not that the PS3 might outsell the XB360, who knows it could. Its listening to EA like they have some knowledge that we don't, when as history shows, they are always putting their foot in their mouths.

http://kotaku.com/gaming/ea/ea-dev-skip-the-ps3-235684.php
Like I said, the point of this thread isn't to say, "Yay! We're gonna win!" but rather, "Yay! EA is going to pay attention to us!"

Originally posted by methos75
EA was calling for Sony to just drop the PS3 back in Nov because their "experts" predicted it had no chance.
My opinion — get the 360 and/or the Wii. Skip the PS3 unless there's a big change in the near future.
Ok, so thats a quote from a dev on his opinion of the future of the ps3, but where was "EA calling for Sony to just drop the PS3"?