View Full Version : some format questions!!


Tread
02-09-08, 01:29 PM
a few questions here...

first, what dolby formats carry 7.1 channels of audio? I always see dts specifying how many channels, is it the same with dolby. Will it say, dolby truhd 7.1 if it is 7.1?


ssecond, I have a ps3, which I am aware doesn't decode dts-hd ma. So, if my disc I'm watching has dts-hd ma 7.1, does the ps3 still send the 7 channels to the receiver in pcm? Or what if I send it bitstream? What will the receiver do with it then?

thanks!

Phantom Stranger
02-09-08, 10:25 PM
Right now the PS3 will send the core audio track of the DTS-HD MA soundtrack via bitstream. Typically the core of DTS-HD MA is a 1.5 mbps DTS track with 5.1 channels.

Tread
02-10-08, 01:54 PM
so, right now, there is no way to get the 7 channels of audio out of a dts track on a ps3?

that sucks...

neil wilkes
02-11-08, 04:18 PM
so, right now, there is no way to get the 7 channels of audio out of a dts track on a ps3?

that sucks...

Talk to Sony!
Also, you really need to consider that a PS3 is not designed as an HD or a Music player. It is a games console first & foremost.
Sony may claim it is a BD player - they count PS3 sales as Blu Ray player sales - but that is pure sophistry.
If you go get an HD DVD or a Blu Ray player, as well as a reciever with the DTS-HD decoders - you will get the right audio out of it. It is, after all, the machine designed for the job.

DTS-HD MAS is awesome. The beauty of it is the way that all options are carried in just one single stream.
You can create the 7.1 Lossless version, include a 5.1 downmix, a 2.0 downmix, as well as the Core Audio (legacy streams) in up to 24/96 5.1 at 1.5MBPS.
With Dobly True HD, you need the HD stream as well as a Dobly Dirgital one.

Finally, why not go get a copy of the DTS-HD MAS encoder?
It's admittedly $1500 - but you get the full encoder as well as a streamplayer that will play the audio right off the computer into your soundcard.
You can also inxclude a quicktime video as well.
A copy of AnyDVD-HD will rip the BD or HD DVD discs, getting the audio onto your HDD. You can also archive everything to .dtshd MAS as well.

Luvverly.

Tread
02-11-08, 07:14 PM
well, from what I've found, it seems the ps3 is one of better blu-ray players out there, and is future proof, which apparently, no other BD players are.

And what, buy the encoder for $1500? Ummm, no thanks.

Phantom Stranger
02-11-08, 08:23 PM
well, from what I've found, it seems the ps3 is one of better blu-ray players out there, and is future proof, which apparently, no other BD players are.

And what, buy the encoder for $1500? Ummm, no thanks.

You do realize that virtually everyone believes Sony will update the PS3's firmware within the next six months to decode DTS-HD MA internally for full lossless resolution. The beauty of the PS3 is that because of its computing power that it can do virtually anything via software updates.

Tread
02-11-08, 08:31 PM
I've heard it's coming, just didn't know when. Can't wait for that day!

neil wilkes
02-13-08, 10:18 AM
well, from what I've found, it seems the ps3 is one of better blu-ray players out there, and is future proof, which apparently, no other BD players are.

It is still primarily a games console. The apparent fact it plays BD better than dedicated BD players does not say much for the format at all.

And what, buy the encoder for $1500? Ummm, no thanks.

Your Call.
But if you want to archive material in lossless form & have the ability to play it right off your HDD into a reciever, then this is the way to go.
It's not expensive for what you get.

frenchglen
02-13-08, 10:22 AM
Talk to Sony!
Also, you really need to consider that a PS3 is not designed as an HD or a Music player. It is a games console first & foremost.
Sony may claim it is a BD player - they count PS3 sales as Blu Ray player sales - but that is pure sophistry.
If you go get an HD DVD or a Blu Ray player, as well as a reciever with the DTS-HD decoders - you will get the right audio out of it. It is, after all, the machine designed for the job.

DTS-HD MAS is awesome. The beauty of it is the way that all options are carried in just one single stream.
You can create the 7.1 Lossless version, include a 5.1 downmix, a 2.0 downmix, as well as the Core Audio (legacy streams) in up to 24/96 5.1 at 1.5MBPS.
With Dobly True HD, you need the HD stream as well as a Dobly Dirgital one.

Finally, why not go get a copy of the DTS-HD MAS encoder?
It's admittedly $1500 - but you get the full encoder as well as a streamplayer that will play the audio right off the computer into your soundcard.
You can also inxclude a quicktime video as well.
A copy of AnyDVD-HD will rip the BD or HD DVD discs, getting the audio onto your HDD. You can also archive everything to .dtshd MAS as well.

Luvverly.
Why buy an encoder for $1500 now when you only need a decoder for playback, which apparently PowerDVD will be implementing this year anyway? Also, there's still no HDMI out audio solution so you wouldn't be getting the ideal sound. Again, that should be coming this year. (Auzentech card)
I'd rather stick with a standalone player that can decode/bitstream it for now.