http://www.amazon.com/Sony-HDR-SR12-Definition-Camcorder-Stabilized/dp/B00123WDR2******sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1202596255&sr=8-3

I did not search for the SR11, at the $1100 or so price point.... but it'd be great if both came out on March 5th

edit - Scratch that - http://www.amazon.com/Sony-HDR-SR11-Definition-Camcorder-Stabilized/dp/B00123XZNI******sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1202596377&sr=8-2

Are there normally any coupons that can bring it down to a more affordable $1,000 price point?

Not sure what kind of a break you can get, but just after release there should be a deal if you wait long enough.

I'm getting the SR-11 cuz 60GB will do me just fine. I can get 7 hours 10 min. of video at the camera's highest quality recording mode. That's plenty for me to get by on. It's not like I'm going into the jungle for 2 weeks with no disc burner in sight.

I'm excited about the new features the SR-11/12 have.... like true HD 1920 x 1080 res video at 5mp (effective) and 10.2mp for digital still pictures. Plus the bigger 3.2 inch 16:9 LCD screen and 12X Optical / 150X Digital Zoom to name a few. I think it's cool it can take an HD res snapshot of any frame of video.....and a bunch of other things I can't wait to mess with!

This is the affordable true 1080i cam I've been waiting for and I fear others have too. I'm sure I'll have to pre-order if I want a chance of getting one since I'm guessing they will have quite the run on them in it's first months of release although I could be wrong.

I'm also buying a Blu-Ray burner and Sony's Vegas video software to author some of my home movies to disc for easy play on the television.

Haven't been this excited for a consumer electronic in a few years other then the Xbox 360. Can't wait to get my hands on mine! :D

Yep, I'm getting the SR11 as well, and I found it on Best Buy to boot for $1199. $100 cheaper than Amazon, and that's not including any '10% off mailers' from the Best Buy club...

Yep, I'm getting the SR11 as well, and I found it on Best Buy to boot for $1199. $100 cheaper than Amazon, and that's not including any '10% off mailers' from the Best Buy club...

It's that price on the Sony Style store online. I'm just gonna get it direct from them so that it's Sony I'm dealing with should I have any problems. Getting an extended 3 or 4 year on it too.:cool:

Yep, I'm getting the SR11 as well, and I found it on Best Buy to boot for $1199. $100 cheaper than Amazon, and that's not including any '10% off mailers' from the Best Buy club...

I just bought the Sony HDR-CX7 this last weekend and I plan on taking it back to Best Buy to get a refund or store credit. I just found out the new SDR-SR11 is coming out real soon with major upgrades an a 60GB harddrive/Pro stick compatible.

My question is Amazon shows an ETA of Feb 28. and Sony/Best Buy shows an ETA of March 10-17.

Amazon is pretty good on ETAs. I wonder if they are indeed getting it sooner than the others?

I'll be taking my CX7 back next week. So I'll be anxiously awaiting the SR11.

Also, I've been reading up on face detection... but no one really explains what the heck it is supposed to do.

From what I gather, in one article I read.....If you zoom in on a face, the microphone built in will only pick up that person. If so, that'd be great if it works. But what other uses does it have?

All I know is that I'm glad this release will FINALLY have USB for data transfer. I'm even thinking of selling my old reliable Sony SR200 for a second SR11 purchase if it works as well as I hope.

Also, I've been reading up on face detection... but no one really explains what the heck it is supposed to do.

From what I gather, in one article I read.....If you zoom in on a face, the microphone built in will only pick up that person. If so, that'd be great if it works. But what other uses does it have?

All I know is that I'm glad this release will FINALLY have USB for data transfer. I'm even thinking of selling my old reliable Sony SR200 for a second SR11 purchase if it works as well as I hope.

Here you go:

The Tech Specs
Drawing on features from its distant cousins, the digital still camera line, these new camcorders implement face detection in a slightly different way. Still cameras correct for focus and exposure, but the camcorders’ corrections toolkit varies by manufacturer. Panasonic corrects for exposure for up to five faces, according to company representatives. Sony increases the count to eight faces, and can alter exposure, white balance, and auto focus accordingly.


The Panasonic HDC-SD9 and HDC-HS9 uses its own proprietary face detection technology with a tracking system, exposure control, and flash activation available, according to the company.

Sony’s face detection is possible because of the six camcorders’ ClearVID CMOS sensor and Bionz processor from the Alpha and Cyber-shot still camera products. The face detection is similar to Sony’s still cameras but without the auto flash. It corrects the three common problems of most common problems: color balance, brightness, and focus. As with the Alpha and Cyber-shot camera lines, the camcorder’s subject must be facing the lens for face detection to recognize the facial architecture of two eyes, a nose, and a mouth.

When asked if the moving picture face detection would be as efficient as still face detection, a Sony representative said that it acts similar, but the camcorder adds tracking technology.


“With our Bionz processor that helps with our face detection, it actually allows for faster tracking of motion, especially for video, especially for faces,” said Kevin Brinkman, Senior Content & Training Manager of the Digital Imaging and Audio Division, Digital Imaging at Sony. “It anticipates where the faces are going to be while shooting the video.”


Even though only two of the major players have tapped into face detection territory so far, the manufacturers agree that face detection is indeed coming this year. Last fall, Sanyo released the Xacti HD1000 and the HD700, which included face detection but only for still photos. When asked when face detection would be implemented for Sanyo video, company representatives said video face detection will come in 2008. Consumers can expect this face-finding feature more and more in the coming year.-http://www.camcorderinfo.com/content/CES-2008-Face-Detection-a-New-Trend-for-Camcorders-34250.htm

If you are worried about the size of current hard drives, just replace it with a larger one! Drives are CHEAP! I just upgraded the drive on my HDR-SR1. $50 for a brand new 60G and it only took 10 minutes.
ERIC

If you are worried about the size of current hard drives, just replace it with a larger one! Drives are CHEAP! I just upgraded the drive on my HDR-SR1. $50 for a brand new 60G and it only took 10 minutes.
ERIC

What size drive is it? Would this size be true for other manufacturers as well, like Canon? Would it be possible to use a SSD as a replacement?

What size drive is it? Would this size be true for other manufacturers as well, like Canon? Would it be possible to use a SSD as a replacement?

If these camcorders can use any SATA 2.5" drive then yes you could get a SSD drive like Mtron, which are the current fastest SSD drives. I have one for my OS.

neostore.com

Hmm, I didn't know that you could replace a drive on a camcorder by yourself. Maybe I should get the SR10 and save some money, knowing I could upgrade the drive later

Hmm, I didn't know that you could replace a drive on a camcorder by yourself. Maybe I should get the SR10 and save some money, knowing I could upgrade the drive later

Just beware the SR10 has a different sensor than that of the SR11/12.

Just beware the SR10 has a different sensor than that of the SR11/12.

yup...the SR11/12 get the new 5mp CMOS sensor:D and full 1920x1080 resolution instead of 1440res.

Anyone called different places to see when these two camcorder's are coming in? Amazon has Feb28 for the SR11 and March 5th for the SR12.

aww crap, forgot about that..ah well... Guess the $1199 price point won't be a problem.

Next weekend is the Polar Bear Club plunge in Seaside Heights. If anyone spots the camera early next week, let me know. Perfect place to test it ;).

Just for haha's, I did a search on cnet shopper...

Anyone know what this link is, and do they ship any earlier considering it's
a business link?

http://www.bestbuybusiness.com/bbfb/en/US/adirect/bestbuy?cmd=catProductDetail&showAddButton=true&productID=BB10840693&websrc=CNBB10840693

Just for haha's, I did a search on cnet shopper...

Anyone know what this link is, and do they ship any earlier considering it's
a business link?

http://www.bestbuybusiness.com/bbfb/en/US/adirect/bestbuy?cmd=catProductDetail&showAddButton=true&productID=BB10840693&websrc=CNBB10840693

Nice find! Maybe they do ship sooner...I do know Amazon reports an earlier ship date than bestbuy's main page.

Nice find! Maybe they do ship sooner...I do know Amazon reports an earlier ship date than bestbuy's main page.

Just ordered the SR11 using the Best Buy for Business link. It said ships in 1-2 weeks. I will let you know. I was just about ready to buy the Canon HG10 for $599 on Amazon (TigerDirect) but I really wanted the Sony. I can't wait to get it.

Just ordered the SR11 using the Best Buy for Business link. It said ships in 1-2 weeks. I will let you know. I was just about ready to buy the Canon HG10 for $599 on Amazon (TigerDirect) but I really wanted the Sony. I can't wait to get it.

I wonder if the business site allow you to use gift cards? Anyway let us know if you hear anything on your order status. I still need to go take my Sony HDR CX7 back for a refund or store credit.

I was very curious... but I think I will wait and check one or two stores next Friday. That way maybe I will get lucky and a few will break street date. Especially if they start shipping on the 28th as Amazon says..

Which, BTW, is now down in price to $1199

The product is selling everywhere over the net, for example, *******, Amazon.
Some sites shell HDR-SR11 for $850. Of course, you pay your own risk. But never buy the product with full price $1199.
Cheers

The product is selling everywhere over the net, for example, *******, Amazon.
Some sites shell HDR-SR11 for $850. Of course, you pay your own risk. But never buy the product with full price $1199.
Cheers

Be very carefull on what site you order from. I did a search on almost all the retailers offering the SR11 online on resellerratings.com and 90% of them had horrible resale reviews and were called scammers. Say they have something in stock and don't, etc. It's always a good idea to find out a websites resellerratings before you buy from them.

The only reputable dealers I saw for the SR11/12 were Amazon.com, Bestbuy.com, Sony.com, and BHphotvideo.com

Does full 1920 x 1080 mean 1080i or 1080p? Does this camcorder have a windscreen?

Does full 1920 x 1080 mean 1080i or 1080p? Does this camcorder have a windscreen?

Its full 1080i 60fps 1920x1080...most camcorders claiming full1080HD are actually only recording files at 1440x1080. Don't know about a windscreen. I do know it will have a full 5MP video sensor...higher than the rest out there. Also gets a full 16Mbps bitrate record option with better AVCHD compression.

Not sure if it can do 1080 24p though. I know the new canons coming out can.

What are the chances of it getting on sale early? Amazon has the earliest date at FEbruary 28th...Think anyone will have it on sale by Saturday, or do people not care if Camcorders break street date?

What are the chances of it getting on sale early? Amazon has the earliest date at FEbruary 28th...Think anyone will have it on sale by Saturday, or do people not care if Camcorders break street date?

If you want it bad enough you can get the US version of the SR11 on ebay from an e-tailer in Japan. I think he has a ton of copies brand new directly from Japan factory sealed new with world wide warranty. like $1,399 or something.

Heh, not that bad. But the Polar Bear Club this weekend at the shore would be a great place to test it out. About a 1,000 people diving into the water..

I really need a camcorder by March 15th, that's when my team has a volleyball roadtrip. Hopefully, the HDR-SR11/12 will be available in Canada by then.

So there's no word on whether or not these camcorders will have 24 or 30p progressive modes?

How will 1920 x 1080 interlaced be for recording sports?

I really need a camcorder by March 15th, that's when my team has a volleyball roadtrip. Hopefully, the HDR-SR11/12 will be available in Canada by then.

So there's no word on whether or not these camcorders will have 24 or 30p progressive modes?

How will 1920 x 1080 interlaced be for recording sports?

The 1080i at 60FPS would be a lot better for recording sports as 24P and 30P modes would be too slow a frame rate to record fast movement fluidly. This is evident in Blu-ray and Film movies which are natively recorded in 24Fps. Fast action is not very fluid at these low frame rates. 60FPS is where fast action starts looking silky smooth.

As far as the SR11/12 supporting 24 or 30P...I don't think it does. These modes would be more useful for making film-like movies or making it easier to convert to a HD format for use on the internet.

Don't get me wrong though 1080p does look better, but for live action I think it's lacking. If studios started recording in 1080 60P that would be awsome.

Ugh, Best Buy for Business price back up to the SRP of $1199..

I wonder if it'll go even lower than $1022?

I'm here in Montreal and Sony store downtown got it in so I pulled the trigger on the SR11. My main uses for it are driving around filming the city and using the footage in my grad thesis in computer graphics, so I needed the latest and best camcorder that I could afford. The big huge bulky ones do not impress me, and this camera...wow, incredible. I took still shots of some of my models at like 5 inches from the cam and every tiny little detail came out. Closer than that and it couldn't focus.

Since I haven't received my mini hdmi cable from monoprice yet, I've been using the component out from the sr11 into my lg full HD 24 inch Lcd, and it is just incroyable, comme on dit a quebec. I didn't realize how nice it would be to have an eye-piece, a touch screen, tons of options, a remote to start recording when I'm playing some chopin. and jeez, the 3d sound I feel walking around my apartment, I mean I can use my grado headphones on the jack and it's almost more realistic than the real thing!! actually, I'm sure that has to do with the amplification, but it is wierd to walk around and hear the creases in your pants fold. I'll try to upload some avhds some place..the still pics are great and I already swapped my facebook photo with one taken off this. I love the click photo too, and the night vision...gonna come in handy when some females come over :))) j/k I wouldn't do that. But, in a totally unrelated area, I also like the fact that you can turn off all bleeps and bloops from the camera. like when you turn it on using the remote and stuff. ( :) )

One day I'll buy the accessories like a telephoto and wide angle..maybe a fish eye? that would be best for my uses. Not sure if there are any compatible lenses for the sonys for fish eye, in the consumer range. EDIT: Also noticed when I record in 5.1 and 16 mbps full hd mode the sound craps in and out and loses sync with the video. Maybe I'm doing something wrong. All I'm doing so far to play it back is open the mts files with media player under vista 64 bit. The CPU usage is normally around 30% using my gpu to decode h.264 1080p videos but the full bitrate on these seems to be higher than my cpu will allow without chunking up. My cpu is core duo and my gpu is 8800 gts. 2gbs of ram. I'm hoping I have a codec or cpu limitation and it's not a problem with the camera itself :(

Wow, congrats! I didn't think they'd be out this soon. If you can, try to upload some native clips of your cityscapes, that would be greatly appreciated!!!

Best of luck with your new baby.

You know, it makes me hate being down the shore with a car, and not having a clue as to how to get to the local best buy :).

I see on amazon's description of the device (both SR11 and SR12)

i.Link interface (IEEE1394) Quickly transfer images from the camcorder to compatible devices equipped with an IEEE1394 interface, including camcorders, digital VCRs, and PCs, using this high speed, bi-directional digital video/audio connection.

But on sonystyle, it says
i.LINK® Interface
* N/A

Firewire is an important feature I'm looking for. Anyone know if it definitely has it or not?

Just pre-ordered the Sony SR11 from bestbuy.com and it said the release date was March 9th. :cool:

I hope it comes out sooner than that!

Firewire is an important feature I'm looking for. Anyone know if it definitely has it or not?

I'd be shocked to see a Sony without a firewire port. This is from the Sony website:

Digital Audio/Video Output(s)
Yes (via USB & i.LINK®)

Anyone know someone who works at Dell and can get us an answer on when these ship?

http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/productdetail.aspx?sku=A1488739&cs=04&c=us&l=en&dgc=SS&cid=27722&lid=628339

Currently the cheapest price..

Anyone know someone who works at Dell and can get us an answer on when these ship?

http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/productdetail.aspx?sku=A1488739&cs=04&c=us&l=en&dgc=SS&cid=27722&lid=628339

Currently the cheapest price..

Did you try calling Sales and asking them?

Honestly I don't see how anyone can get these sooner than Sony.com. There date states 3/14/08 (http://www.sonystyle.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?catalogId=10551&storeId=10151&langId=-1&productId=8198552921665291500)

Amazon though is usually pretty accurate with their dates, but I don't understand how they can get these faster(2/28/08) than Sony's store???:confused:

Like I said if you want the Sony HDR-SR11 bad enough there are sellers from Japan on E-bay that have these in-stock new with a world wide warranty for like 1,399.00 plus shipping.

Two more days till supposed Amazon shipment. Post it if you get it :).

-edit nah, I don't trust ebay enough these days to want it that badly. I'm just excited about it being this close to release :).

Two more days till supposed Amazon shipment. Post it if you get it :).

-edit nah, I don't trust ebay enough these days to want it that badly. I'm just excited about it being this close to release :).

Did you order from Amazon or are you waiting to order? I returned my Sony CX7 for a store credit at BestBuy so i had to pre-order my SR11 from there.

I'm hoping Sony ships these out early to retailers like Bestbuy instead of waiting until around March 14th mentioned on the Sony's store website.

I'm waiting to order in this case. Since this is my 2nd of only two paid vacation weeks of the year, I'll have close too about 3/4th's saved up. I'm about $300 short before I will be able to safley splurge on it :)..

But at least if I know it's shipping, I'll be able to go out in the store and take a looksee in person as well :).

As far as the SR11/12 supporting 24 or 30P...I don't think it does. These modes would be more useful for making film-like movies or making it easier to convert to a HD format for use on the internet.

Don't get me wrong though 1080p does look better, but for live action I think it's lacking. If studios started recording in 1080 60P that would be awsome.
I just cannot get what Sony is doing. Last year Canon pushed 24p/25p to consumer market, this year it pushes 30p to NTSC market, Sony had the whole year and it did nothing! Amazing, it have had "frame shutter" a.k.a. "Progressive shutter" technology for ages, which allows to grab a whole frame and dump it to interlaced stream in PsF-like fashion. This technology is even used in lower-end HC90/96 MiniDV cams, but not in consumer HDV cams, neither in AVCHD cams. What's up with that???

Even more disturbing, Sony claims that the SR series indeed has "Progressive shutter system", which is "a mechanical shutter system that provides progressive scan performance while utilizing an interlaced scanning system. Digital still images will be sharp and clear with excellent definition." Huh? What EXACTLY are they talking about? How digital images written on a memory card relate to video? I get it, full-frame shutter, no interlace. But interlaced scanning is not used for images, they are still images! I emailed to their consumer support department, and got no answer.

Pulled-down 24p from the HV20 is pain, it has to be IVTC'd for best results. 30p requires nothing: just load it into 60i timeline and change project options from interlaced to progressive, this is it! 30p can be a nirvana for NTSC user, just like 25p works for PAL users. for the life of me, I cannot get why Sony omits this mode from its cams.

I like the new SR series, looks sexy, flip-up viewfinder, camcontrol... but no 30p! I see no choice as to wait for the new HF from Canon. At least Canon is more open in what they are doing and how they are doing it (the bastards were silent about built-in ND filter in the HV20 though).

Hmm, now it's listed as Not in Stock at Amazon, the SR11. Did so many people order that they ran out?

http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthread.php?t=115918

Has a quick impression and some pictures.

The pics. are about what I expect from a camcorder.......was hoping for better....but I highly doubt Sony, Canon, ect... want to cut into their digicam business.

I was going to register there to ask a few questions, but I hate forums that need your full real name. Always makes me suspicious....

Ahh well...Guess I gotta wait for someone here to pick it up :). I remember reading somewhere that face detection also works with the microphone. You turn on FD, and the mic only picks up that person....

I received my SR12 on Monday 2/25 from Abe's of Maine. They still show availability of the SR12 but not the SR11. I had to enter SR12 in the search field to find it. All they did was call me and try to sell me batteries, lenses, and a protection plan. I thought it would delay the order but it didn't.

I have already shot some video and pictures of my children and viewed on a 12ft wide HD projector(Panasonic PT-AX100U) and it looked really good. I have not tried backing up straight to a DVD and playing on a Blu-Ray player but I will this weekend. The SR12 is an upgrade from my Sony DCR-PC350 which I have enjoyed for the past couple of years. I am new to the HDD format but have found it a pleasure to work with. I am using imovie 08 on a MacBookPro 2.2ghz and 2gig RAM.

I know there are many of you that are as anxious to get your hands on one of these as I was so I will try my best to answer any questions you may have until someone more knowledgeable can help.

Please bear with me as this is my first post and I would like to thank all the members of the AVS Forum for helping me make more informed decisions on all my AVS equipment! Hopefully I can contribute and help someone else.

Thank you!

OK, from my understanding, the Face detection works with the microphone that is built in to the camera. I'm not sure what face detection is, but from what I read, you supposedly just zoom in on a face, and the microphone only picks up on that person. I'd be interested in the tests on that feature :)

Also, how long does it take to transfer data using the built in USB port (not the docking station)? HD files probably take longer than SD ones. Oh, and is there any hard drive clicking heard? I don't get any of that on my SR200...

We're going to hopefully get a chance to go looking a bit tonight or tomorrow..

UA, are you using the highest bitrate/quality on the cam? If you've had any other experience with any other HD cam, it would help to see your opinion of the new Sony relative to other HD cams.

Any chance of you being able to upload a native clip from the cam?

Oh well, for those in the Paramus area, Best Buy (not the one in GSP mall) didn't have it in stock. The Circuit City on Route 17 south (I think it was) had only one lone SR10 on stock. They didn't even have any of the models on display..

Ah well, maybe I'll have better luck, and more money, next week :)

I see on amazon's description of the device (both SR11 and SR12)

i.Link interface (IEEE1394) Quickly transfer images from the camcorder to compatible devices equipped with an IEEE1394 interface, including camcorders, digital VCRs, and PCs, using this high speed, bi-directional digital video/audio connection.

But on sonystyle, it says
i.LINK® Interface
* N/A

Firewire is an important feature I'm looking for. Anyone know if it definitely has it or not?


from looking at the photos of it and looking at the manual, does not appear that it has i.link. maybe someone that owns one can confirm??

OK, from my understanding, the Face detection works with the microphone that is built in to the camera. I'm not sure what face detection is, but from what I read, you supposedly just zoom in on a face, and the microphone only picks up on that person. I'd be interested in the tests on that feature :)


That is incorrect...Here is what Face Detection does according to this article:

The Tech Specs:
"Drawing on features from its distant cousins, the digital still camera line, these new camcorders implement face detection in a slightly different way. Still cameras correct for focus and exposure, but the camcorders’ corrections toolkit varies by manufacturer. Panasonic corrects for exposure for up to five faces, according to company representatives. Sony increases the count to eight faces, and can alter exposure, white balance, and auto focus accordingly.


The Panasonic HDC-SD9 and HDC-HS9 uses its own proprietary face detection technology with a tracking system, exposure control, and flash activation available, according to the company.

Sony’s face detection is possible because of the six camcorders’ ClearVID CMOS sensor and Bionz processor from the Alpha and Cyber-shot still camera products. The face detection is similar to Sony’s still cameras but without the auto flash. It corrects the three common problems of most common problems: color balance, brightness, and focus. As with the Alpha and Cyber-shot camera lines, the camcorder’s subject must be facing the lens for face detection to recognize the facial architecture of two eyes, a nose, and a mouth.

When asked if the moving picture face detection would be as efficient as still face detection, a Sony representative said that it acts similar, but the camcorder adds tracking technology.


“With our Bionz processor that helps with our face detection, it actually allows for faster tracking of motion, especially for video, especially for faces,” said Kevin Brinkman, Senior Content & Training Manager of the Digital Imaging and Audio Division, Digital Imaging at Sony. “It anticipates where the faces are going to be while shooting the video.”


Even though only two of the major players have tapped into face detection territory so far, the manufacturers agree that face detection is indeed coming this year. Last fall, Sanyo released the Xacti HD1000 and the HD700, which included face detection but only for still photos. When asked when face detection would be implemented for Sanyo video, company representatives said video face detection will come in 2008. Consumers can expect this face-finding feature more and more in the coming year."-http://www.camcorderinfo.com/content...ders-34250.htm

I just picked this up a few days ago locally in Vancouver, Canada. I paid $1600 after taxes with 4 year warranty included, did I get a good deal?

Now I'm looking for a good case and an extra battery. Strongly considering the ACC-FH70 Starter Kit if it's available. I will need to order the ECM-HW1 Wireless Mic online, because I can only find it in the Sony Store locally, which charges $249 for it.

Dell's website has the price back up from $1033 to $1199 for the SR11. Dang. Maybe it will drop again.

It's been that way for two weeks now :(. I was hoping that was a permanent price, so I didn't pre-order then..

ABT has it in stock for $1133 (SR11) and they don't charge tax except in Illinois.

Is that a trust worthy store? That's not a bad price...even if it is to save on taxes and 89$'s..

Is that a trust worthy store? That's not a bad price...even if it is to save on taxes and 89$'s..

I am cautious about small time online sellers. I do a search on resellerratings.com (http://www.resellerratings.com) before I buy anything from a new website I've never purchased from before.

I can vouch for ABT, they are a full fledged store local to Chicago. Highly recommended, and even the reseller ratings are pretty good too.

Not to mention, they are Sony Internet Authorized if you need any more reassurance.

I can vouch for ABT, they are a full fledged store local to Chicago. Highly recommended, and even the reseller ratings are pretty good too.

Not to mention, they are Sony Internet Authorized if you need any more reassurance.

Thats good to know..

There are so many sites out there that say they have something in-stock and actually don't and just rip you off.

Not only can I vouch for ABT, I actually ended up getting my SR11 for even less than the website listed from them (To say it was the best deal in town is probably not an exagerration!)

Not only can I vouch for ABT, I actually ended up getting my SR11 for even less than the website listed from them (To say it was the best deal in town is probably not an exagerration!)

Thats good to hear..let us know how you like it.

This is interesting..

Seems amazon is not selling it direct yet. It says on the site now, 'In Stock, ships from 'One Call'...

Has anyone heard of this store before? The price also went back up $100's. I guess I will now either buy from Sony Store or ABT...

I preorder this off Dell's website. I got the 1033.00 price for it. Also they threw in next day shipping for Free because i told them i was getting it for my Fiance's birthday and for out future son :P I truly hope the quality of this camcorder shines. I did so much research into this thing. I just hope i made the right choice. My ship date is March 9th. Maybe it will come sooner. When i do get it I will be posting a review about it.

ABT is now backordered on SR11s, so I guess maybe a few people here got one! :)

Man, BestBuy.com is laging behind these other guys and sony store. Wish they would hurry up and get them in.

I preorder this off Dell's website. I got the 1033.00 price for it. Also they threw in next day shipping for Free because i told them i was getting it for my Fiance's birthday and for out future son :P I truly hope the quality of this camcorder shines. I did so much research into this thing. I just hope i made the right choice. My ship date is March 9th. Maybe it will come sooner. When i do get it I will be posting a review about it.
How were you able to preorder it from the Dell website for a price less than what the web is showing. Did they give you an e-coupon or something? Thanks!

That's just what I was wondering. Also, are there any Dell coupons for 10-25% off that could help lower the price? Same goes for Amazon, Best Buy and Circuit City.

Occasionally we get10% off in the mail from Best Buy, but I don't know when they next ship...

I think there was a glitch in the system and they had it (SR11) listed for $880 or something like that. I placed a preorder at that price, but with tax it was about $960. I ended up cancelling due to it not being here in time for my cruise.

The one I bought at ABT was $1000 shipped, so the luxury of only spending $40 more but ensuring I had it for my cruise paid off.

You got it for $1000 from ABT? Their website says it costs $1139, did you negotiate with them?
Since its is a very expensive camcorder, I would like to buy the extended warranty too. Do you know.how much is their extended warranty prices.

I mentioned that Dell had it for $1030 and they said they could do $1000 shipped. :)

No idea on extended warranty.

anyone here from ABT who can garuntee that $1000 price point for AVS members?
I was thinking of calling them after reading that post, but I wonder if we could email them as well....

- Allot of people would buy it at that price and skip the other stores :).

You know, here is another question....

Does anyone know the resolution of the SD footage? Is it better than the SR200?

How were you able to preorder it from the Dell website for a price less than what the web is showing. Did they give you an e-coupon or something? Thanks!


I purchased this on 2/24/08, at that time the price was $1,033.00, I added the extended warranty from dell for a total of 3 years, giving me a final price including taxes of $1,228.85. My estimated ship date is 3/10/08. Just hope they are firm and on time with that. As I am drooling over everyone else getting thiers before me. :P

anyone here from ABT who can garuntee that $1000 price point for AVS members?
I was thinking of calling them after reading that post, but I wonder if we could email them as well....

- Allot of people would buy it at that price and skip the other stores :).

I bet they would buy. I would imagine if the right channels approached them they might do it for that price. I was floored, especially given that its such a new item and the price couldn't be beat for an authorized internet sony dealer too.

I'm a newbie to video recording, but why is Sony Vegas 8 showing my HDR-SR12 clips to be 29.97 fps instead of 60 fps?!

I chose the highest quality setting on the camcorder, is there anything else I need to check to ensure 60 fps?

I'm a newbie to video recording, but why is Sony Vegas 8 showing my HDR-SR12 clips to be 29.97 fps instead of 60 fps?!

I chose the highest quality setting on the camcorder, is there anything else I need to check to ensure 60 fps?


Can you upload some of this video footage. I am dying to see how the quality is?

www.megaupload.com works great

I mentioned that Dell had it for $1030 and they said they could do $1000 shipped. :)

No idea on extended warranty.

Did you end up doing that?

If so when is your ship date?

I'm a newbie to video recording, but why is Sony Vegas 8 showing my HDR-SR12 clips to be 29.97 fps instead of 60 fps?!
Umm, because it is what it is?
I chose the highest quality setting on the camcorder, is there anything else I need to check to ensure 60 fps?
Your video IS 60 fps (in fact, 59.94 fps), which is the same as 29.97 Fps, interlaced. Here "f" stands for field, "F" stands for frame. The camcorder does not produce 60 Fps video if this is what you wanted.

Thanks for your reply Ungermann.

I did not know the distinction between Fps and fps. Sony Vegas is showing 29.97 fps , not Fps by the way, but I think I get what you're saying.

If the SR11/12 don't do 30p native, can they be converted to 30p in vegas or is it just not possible?

Am I able to render the AVCHD clips to Xvid, Divx, H.264, etc. while retaining the 5.1 surround sound? I am using Sony Vegas 8, thanks in advance.

Did you end up doing that?

If so when is your ship date?

Of course I ordered at $1000 shipped! My SR11 arrives today from ABT (Was shipped ground)

The Dell order was cancelled because they couldn't guarantee it would be here in time for my cruise.

I live in Chicago, so ABT charges taxes (Only for IL Residents). Yesterday I got it for $1028 (including taxes) and $119 for 4yr extended warranty. They had only 1 in stock yesterday. I got the tracking number and I am receiving it today.
I will post the review once I receive it.

Well if you got it for $1028 then their cost must be in the low 900s to turn a profit. I think its safe to say that Sony has a hit on their hands with the SR11.

Anyone see an SR12 in the wild yet?

The only difference between the SR11 & 12 is the hard drive correct?

Any feedback on how the face detection working on the SR11's?

Anyone see an SR12 in the wild yet?

The only difference between the SR11 & 12 is the hard drive correct?

Any feedback on how the face detection working on the SR11's?

SR11 has a 60gig HD and SR12 has the 120gig HD. Thats the only difference in the 2.

I've only been to two stores here in Jersey, and only spotted one lone SR10. The ABT store is tempting, though...Especially if I can get it for $1,000 shipped. Did anyone get that price contacting them through email, or was it all phone orders?

You must order over the phone to get that price, not online or via email.

I received mine today :)
You can talk to ABT either via live chat or phone to get this price.

Hmm, I think I will do this today or sometime next week. Do we have too mention anything other than the $1036 BBFB price?

Can't Beat $1,000's. Especially since I intend too get the 10 hour battery..

I got my sr12 yest . What a nice unit. WOW

Just tell them that you read in the AVS forum that someone got it for this price.

Just tell them that you read in AVS forum that someone bought it for this price.

I purchased my SR11 from Dell Business using my companies business account. $929 plus tax and shipping = $980 overnight. Ships 3/13

Did you have a business rep get that price for you, and if so, how?

We also have a Dell Buisness rep and a company account.
That's an even better deal than ABT, and I would have enough too cover it next week!

I suspect the dell pricing will be tough to beat. Though if you really want to get technical, I paid $981 for mine from ABT (I did a pricematch to CDW, had my rep create a quote, and they matched the diff ($17 but hey it almost paid for the camcorder bag!)

Did you have a business rep get that price for you, and if so, how?

We also have a Dell Buisness rep and a company account.
That's an even better deal than ABT, and I would have enough too cover it next week!

Yes, I used a business rep. I had recently purchased company equipment and struck while the iron was hot. I felt pretty lucky but in a few months we will see others paying less than this I am sure.

i just ordered this morning from best buy. their web site has it listed as backordered but when i checked store availability they had it in stock at my local store. the price is $1199 but i have a 12% off rewards zone coupon (and a $50 gift card).

Any suggestions for the good camcorder bag and LCD screen protector for Sony SR11. Since the LCD is touch screen, its better to protect it.

I ended up getting the LCSV40 which works pretty good. Though most bags are going to be too large for this camcorder.

Yay :)

Our Dell rep said he could get it too me for 994.03. About $300's saved. Once I get the OK to do the deal, that'll be money well spent :)

Thanks guys for the input :)

Yay :)

Our Dell rep said he could get it too me for 994.03. About $300's saved. Once I get the OK to do the deal, that'll be money well spent :)

Thanks guys for the input :)

My only concern with Dell is they are backordered, which is the reason I didn't go with them in the first place!

Posted this before, but here it is again - fast delivery, Sony auth, in-stock. Only $966

Supplier from Michigan. Supplies schools, etc.

www.shopvsc.com/Sony-HDR-SR11-Hi-Definition-Hard-Drive-Camcorder-p/son-hdrsr11.htm

I'm not in any way associated with them, but had a smooth transaction at a great price and 2 day delivery!

Does anyone sell Screen protector for this toy?

From Walmart to BestBuy, or even Ritz Cam, any big Electronics store should carry that.

Since Sony SR11 doesnt come with the shoulder belt, I found this one in their website (Shoulder Belt BLTHSB)

http://www.sonystyle.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?catalogId=10551&storeId=10151&langId=-1&XID=O:blt-hsb:dg_ggldf&kw=blt-hsb&lp=11040627&productId=11040627

Did anyone use this before. Is it good?

Has anyone started an official owner's thread for the SR11/12. Not an owner yet but hope to be in the next few months.

The Official SR11/12 thread is where most of the owner's questions are. Your more than welcome to join there as we find out more about them.

I connected SR11 to my HDTV (Sharp aquos) yesterday via HDMI cable. But the picture was not as clear as 1080P. Did anyone try this?

I connected SR11 to my HDTV (Sharp aquos) yesterday via HDMI cable. But the picture was not as clear as 1080P. Did anyone try this?

Remember that the Sony camcorders ARE NOT 1080p. They do 1920x10801 interlaced.

Its not even 1080i. Did anyone connect it to HDTV. Please post you opinion.

Its not even 1080i. Did anyone connect it to HDTV. Please post you opinion.

If your running the highest setting, it IS 1920X1080i 16mpbs AVCHD.

Can you confirm the mode that your TV is in? (a mode or info button?)

Its not even 1080i. Did anyone connect it to HDTV. Please post you opinion.

Sure is a full 1920X1080. I've got mine hooked up to a 1080p Pioneer plasma and I can use 'dot by dot' mode for a full, untouched 1920X1080. You can only use this mode on the Pioneer when it senses a true 1920X1080 signal.