ZIMMERLI THIERRY
02-10-08, 03:03 PM
Can someone give me some information about the new proc 552 from Mark Levinson seen at CES:)
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View Full Version : mark levinson at CES ? ZIMMERLI THIERRY 02-10-08, 03:03 PM Can someone give me some information about the new proc 552 from Mark Levinson seen at CES:) dmcleod 02-10-08, 05:51 PM This is all I have seen so far: http://blog.hometheatermag.com/ces2008/010808marklevinson/ CINERAMAX 02-10-08, 11:34 PM http://www.21hifi.com/newshifi/hifishow/ces2008/img4/levinson.jpg http://www.21hifi.com/newshifi/hifishow/ces2008/img4/levinson_amp.jpg ZIMMERLI THIERRY 02-11-08, 09:46 AM What else ?:) McCall 02-11-08, 11:45 AM It is the 502. What do you want to know about it exactly? ZIMMERLI THIERRY 02-11-08, 04:08 PM It is the 502. What do you want to know about it exactly? is there any scaler? room Eq?did you listen to it? is the preamp can be compare to a 32ML? robena 02-11-08, 05:14 PM How many HDMi inputs? Analog bypass, or all to digital like the 40? Thanks, McCall 02-12-08, 11:27 PM I am not sure about actual scaling, it has a zoom ratio feature which allows you to zoom to eliminate the black bars when aspect ratio does not match display. It isn't a preamp so not compared to the 32ML it would be closer to the 40. It does have room EQ. I have Not listened to it YET, I am hoping to test it out . Robena, There are six HDMI inputs and 2 outputs Alimentall 02-12-08, 11:40 PM Here's some interesting news. Not necessarily bad, except that it shows that the current climate means keeping costs under control. http://www.lowellsun.com/business/ci_8195961 ZIMMERLI THIERRY 02-13-08, 04:03 PM I am not sure about actual scaling, it has a zoom ratio feature which allows you to zoom to eliminate the black bars when aspect ratio does not match display. It isn't a preamp so not compared to the 32ML it would be closer to the 40. It does have room EQ. I have Not listened to it YET, I am hoping to test it out . Robena, There are six HDMI inputs and 2 outputs who are you ?do you work at ml factory or are a retailer ? of course I know that it's not a preamp but for 30000 usd I would expect to have an ml preamp And a high level proc.I wait for your informations mark haflich 02-16-08, 07:56 PM Hell a Sim2 C3x1080 costs $32,500 and nobody expects it to come with a screen. A Sim2 HT5000 costs $54,000 and that doesn't include a lens. You want a $30000 processor to be a high level 2 channel preamp too? Just joking. Jim HTPC 03-08-08, 09:43 AM Heard it will have L7 algorithm from the Lexicon's MC-12 for multi-channel audio from 2 channel. ELMitz 03-08-08, 09:52 AM very nice news Jim... If true, this may be the new King-O-the-Hill Kal Rubinson 03-08-08, 10:16 AM Heard it will have L7 algorithm from the Lexicon's MC-12 for multi-channel audio from 2 channel.Yes and the RoomEq is similar in concept to Lexicon's. Jim HTPC 03-08-08, 10:42 AM If it's exactly Lexicon's MC-12 HD BAL EQ, then I'll pass. I/you can tweak it better than the auto EQ. I use Auto EQ for comparisons. Ultimately the decision is to turn it off in the end. Hopefully ML can make it better. I do enjoy calibrating though; watching the room come alive after a good session of measuring and adjusting. Plus it gives you an excuse to play some awsome music. Kal Rubinson 03-08-08, 11:08 AM If it's exactly Lexicon's MC-12 HD BAL EQ, then I'll pass. I cannot say for certain but that's the conclusion I drew from reading the draft of the user's manual. twothbeave 03-09-08, 03:16 PM DAMN, That sucks. I'm going to have to trade in my 40 now. Wish they truly would have had an upgrade path as was promised. The 2 box with card chasis had so much promise. What a pisser. It's still a beautiful peace with sound to match. Maybe if Meridian gets their act together, I'll have to pull my 861 out of storage. Edward sfogg 03-09-08, 03:30 PM "If it's exactly Lexicon's MC-12 HD BAL EQ, then I'll pass. I/you can tweak it better than the auto EQ. I use Auto EQ for comparisons. Ultimately the decision is to turn it off in the end." Built in you have the amount of EQ applied that can be adjusted. A user on the old Lex forum figured out how to adjust each of the filters directly. Most find the auto EQ does a very good job though. If you had all the mics piled together spread them out for the next run, it gives the Lex. more data about the room to work with. Shawn DougWinsor 03-09-08, 07:34 PM Heard it will have L7 algorithm from the Lexicon's MC-12 for multi-channel audio from 2 channel. Really, why is lexicon doing this? Are they renting out their software to make more money? Or are they both owned by the same company? Alimentall 03-09-08, 07:43 PM Same company. M-L, Lexicon, Revel, JBL, Infinity, etc, etc, etc. DougWinsor 03-09-08, 07:51 PM And the 502 runs the Gennum's VXP GF9351 video processor? What else runs this setup? Jim HTPC 03-09-08, 11:16 PM Makes sense. ML has great 2 channel, but their multi channel is not on par. L7 will increase it's performance for multi-channel. Don't understand why companies offer new products missing features like True HD and and DTS MA HD. Might as well come out with HDMI 1.3 since it's been out for some time. I don't know many *new* products yet to be released coming out with HDMI 1.1. Poor decision in my opinion. Not for a High End Processor. CINERAMAX 03-09-08, 11:34 PM I have been playing with the imported denon avp1hdsp and I certainaly do not like what the audissey has been doing. Sounds much better set to flat. Alimentall 03-10-08, 07:46 AM "Flat" is an Audyssey mode. "Off" is actually off. 'Flat' is brighter than 'Audyssey'. CINERAMAX 03-10-08, 07:48 AM Ok that one works... ZIMMERLI THIERRY 03-10-08, 07:53 AM I cannot say for certain but that's the conclusion I drew from reading the draft of the user's manual. Hi Kal have you yet the user manual ? CINERAMAX 03-10-08, 07:57 AM Will the processor have a way of mixing new channels in (specifically center left and center right), doesn't the lexi have that capability? Kal Rubinson 03-10-08, 10:57 AM Hi Kal have you yet the user manual ?Apparently. ;) sfogg 03-10-08, 11:05 AM "Will the processor have a way of mixing new channels in (specifically center left and center right), doesn't the lexi have that capability?" The Lex doesn't do that. What later versions (MC-12 v5, and MC-12HD) can do is when Logic 7 is run on top of any discrete 5.1 source (5.1DD/DTS, 5.1 analog input, 5.1 LPCM over HDMI) it can steer out center material from the L/R channels to the center and steer out additional surround material from L/R to the surrounds. Shawn Alimentall 03-10-08, 11:19 AM Ok that one works... ugh, that's the bright, thin one. I guess it depends on the size of the room though. ZIMMERLI THIERRY 03-10-08, 01:31 PM Apparently. ;) and the proc ? Kal Rubinson 03-10-08, 03:13 PM and the proc ?Unfortunately, no. ZIMMERLI THIERRY 03-10-08, 05:38 PM Unfortunately, no. Kal What's on with high end proc ???? Theta ??? Mc ????Meridian ??? and now ML ?? Is it a real proc or just an empty box for a show ??? like the AP 1000 that will never be available !! Kal Rubinson 03-10-08, 07:28 PM Kal What's on with high end proc ???? Theta ??? Mc ????Meridian ??? and now ML ?? Is it a real proc or just an empty box for a show ??? like the AP 1000 that will never be available !!I cannot say but it has been promised me when available. Theta is in transition with the new owner and we will have to wait for the results. Mc seems to pull rabbits out of its hat but I have not looked too closely at what they are doing now. Meridian? Well, Bob Stuart always keeps his cards close to his chest but there are indications that HDMI may be on the way despite his criticisms of it. I just took a side-step and had an Oppo 980 converted to 3xS/PDIF to feed my 861 and, if necessary, I will do that with a BD player. :D Jim HTPC 03-11-08, 07:48 AM Will the processor have a way of mixing new channels in (specifically center left and center right), doesn't the lexi have that capability? If I understand your question properly, then the answer is no. You will still need a special processor like the Lake Processor, or pick from your favorite vendor. There is no way to have 5 speakers up front - (Left Front) (Left Center) (Center) (Right Center) (Right Front) with a Lex or ML. mmiles 03-13-08, 03:37 PM Kal What's on with high end proc ???? Theta ??? Mc ????Meridian ??? and now ML ?? Is it a real proc or just an empty box for a show ??? like the AP 1000 that will never be available !! No I'm not Kal... I assume the "Mc" = McIntosh. Mc has had a high end set of separates (audio and video) processors on the drawing board for about 2 years (the video piece was to front end the McIntosh rebadged Marantz projector). The main issue was, as with everyone, HDMI and the software (according to my source over a year ago SOFTWARE was a buggar and expensive to develop due to the limited market | cheaper to hire a SQL db programmer!) for the new codecs. It was to use the "latest" TI processor. The target "dual box" approach was to land at $20K (so if you bought both you could post on this forum) but now with the declining dollar my bet is it will land, when it does land or if it lands, around $25K for both. Your mileage may vary... Mike ZIMMERLI THIERRY 03-14-08, 04:28 AM No I'm not Kal... I assume the "Mc" = McIntosh. Mc has had a high end set of separates (audio and video) processors on the drawing board for about 2 years (the video piece was to front end the McIntosh rebadged Marantz projector). The main issue was, as with everyone, HDMI and the software (according to my source over a year ago SOFTWARE was a buggar and expensive to develop due to the limited market | cheaper to hire a SQL db programmer!) for the new codecs. It was to use the "latest" TI processor. The target "dual box" approach was to land at $20K (so if you bought both you could post on this forum) but now with the declining dollar my bet is it will land, when it does land or if it lands, around $25K for both. Your mileage may vary... Mike Mike Unfortunatly the AP1000 (from Mc Intosh) seems to be cancelled ! |