Title says it all - is there a 2.0 mix on the DVD-A version of Donald Fagen's "The Nightfly?"

TIA

Yes. Almost all multichannel DVD-As have an accompanying 2-channel hirez mix.

Great disc, BTW. Even at only 48kHz it still sounds outstanding.

Get Kamakiriad, too. And Morph the Cat. And Gaucho. And Two Against Nature. And Everything Must Go. :D

Get Kamakiriad, too. And Morph the Cat. And Gaucho. And Two Against Nature. And Everything Must Go. :D

*LOL* (un)fortunately there are no more hirez m/c releases from them, or you'd be typing pages and pages.

Thanks. I just read on Audioasylum that the new "The Nightfly Trilogy" box-set has hi-res 2.0 mixes of The Nightfly, Morph the Cat, and Kamakiriad, although only Morth the Cat is in 24/96 - the other two are supposedly 24/48. Surround sound mixes are DTS of all three, but since I'm not interested in 5.1 I'm not too worried if the surround SQ isn't up to the DVD-A stuff (although I suspect it is still very good).

I'd go DVD-A but those discs are pricey now - if the trilogy stuff has good SQ I'll probably just go that route.

<edit> I see that you say that even the original "The Nightfly" DVD-A is 24/48. Hopefully that means the box set has the same recording, at least in 2.0.

And yes, I already have Gaucho on DVD-A. Fantastic recording & music.

Yes. Almost all multichannel DVD-As have an accompanying 2-channel hirez mix.

Great disc, BTW. Even at only 48kHz it still sounds outstanding.

Get Kamakiriad, too. And Morph the Cat. And Gaucho. And Two Against Nature. And Everything Must Go. :D

Agreed.
It's odd that "The Nightfly" is the only one at 24/48 though.
"Kamakiriad", "Morph The Cat" are both 24/96 in 5.1/2.0
"Everything Must Go" is at 24/96 & 24/192 (The disc art is incorrectly labelled as 24/96 for the stereo mix)
"Gaucho" & "Two Against Nature" are both 24/96

Agreed.
It's odd that "The Nightfly" is the only one at 24/48 though.
"Kamakiriad", "Morph The Cat" are both 24/96 in 5.1/2.0
"Everything Must Go" is at 24/96 & 24/192 (The disc art is incorrectly labelled as 24/96 for the stereo mix)
"Gaucho" & "Two Against Nature" are both 24/96Kamakiriad is also 48kHz. And it, too, still sounds fantastic.

I've been lucky enough to collect all of these (Donald Fagen and Steely Dan)...easily some of the best multi-channel discs I have heard.

I've been lucky enough to collect all of these (Donald Fagen and Steely Dan)...easily some of the best multi-channel discs I have heard.

Ditto that, though I'm partial to The Nightfly. This is still one of my top 3 favorites.

Kamakiriad is also 48kHz. And it, too, still sounds fantastic.

My copy is 24/96.
I just checked it.
Both Stereo & 5.1 (which are 2 separate streams as well) are 24/96 MLP.

What version do you have if there is only 24/48 on it?
I have the original pressing in the large case.....

My copy is 24/96.
I just checked it.
Both Stereo & 5.1 (which are 2 separate streams as well) are 24/96 MLP.

What version do you have if there is only 24/48 on it?
I have the original pressing in the large case.....

Neil there is a very good review of Kamakiriad here which explains the 96/24 vs 48/24 issue.

http://www.highfidelityreview.com/reviews/review.asp?reviewnumber=13627376

its original native recording rate was aparently 48/16.

Still what ever it sounds good.

Neil there is a very good review of Kamakiriad here which explains the 96/24 vs 48/24 issue.

http://www.highfidelityreview.com/reviews/review.asp?reviewnumber=13627376

Interesting. I never noticed. I was just going by what was on the backside liner notes which say 48/24.


Still what ever it sounds good.It sounds great. Hell, it sounded awesome on CD when I first bought it in 93.

I have "The Nightfly" in the following formats:

Original vinyl - sounds awesome
1/2 Speed Master vinyl - sounds awesome
CD - sounds awesome
DVD-A in 48/25 5.1 - ""

Note: Purchased over 21 year period.

I bet the cassette sounded awesome too. I don't think you can ruin this recording, but for the sake of sanity I am passing on the MVI offering.

Thanks. I just read on Audioasylum that the new "The Nightfly Trilogy" box-set has hi-res 2.0 mixes of The Nightfly, Morph the Cat, and Kamakiriad, although only Morth the Cat is in 24/96 - the other two are supposedly 24/48. Surround sound mixes are DTS of all three, but since I'm not interested in 5.1 I'm not too worried if the surround SQ isn't up to the DVD-A stuff (although I suspect it is still very good).

I'd go DVD-A but those discs are pricey now - if the trilogy stuff has good SQ I'll probably just go that route.

<edit> I see that you say that even the original "The Nightfly" DVD-A is 24/48. Hopefully that means the box set has the same recording, at least in 2.0.

And yes, I already have Gaucho on DVD-A. Fantastic recording & music.

If someone has heard both SACD and DVD-Audio versions of Gaucho, do they sound pretty much the same quality-wise? I have the SACD version and agree that it is a wonderful recording.

Doug

If someone has heard both SACD and DVD-Audio versions of Gaucho, do they sound pretty much the same quality-wise? I have the SACD version and agree that it is a wonderful recording.I have both. The mix is identical if that is what you are asking.

My intent in buying both was to compare them. However, thankfully, I was convinced here by a few people to NOT try and do this comparison. There are just too many variables involved both at the mastering stage and at the user's playback stage to make a valid comparison. Even if I was able to hear a difference, attributing that difference simply to the difference in the formats would be a stretch, at best. And even if I could hear a difference, would I even be able to pick which "difference" I preferred? And even if I could pick which one I preferred, would it be valid to allow this preference to dictate any further purchases when a disc was available in both formats?

So, you see what I am getting at. Both my copies of Gaucho sound great and I have NEVER even tried comparing them. Given the choice of which to play, I usually choose the SACD version simply for convenience sake, even though I actually, VERY generally and overall, prefer the sound of DVD-As to SACDs with my particular player/AVR combo.

Thanks. I am new to the DVD-Audio format, just barely starting to listen to them now. I was under the impression that SACD would be a better format due to the higher sampling rate. I guess I need to read up more on the formats.

Doug

Thanks. I am new to the DVD-Audio format, just barely starting to listen to them now. I was under the impression that SACD would be a better format due to the higher sampling rate. I guess I need to read up more on the formats.Even if you could eliminate every single other variable, there is still no clear answer as to which format, on paper, theoretically, is the "better" format. This has been argued since these 2 formats appeared and is (but) one of the reasons that their was a "format war" between the 2 formats, a "format war" which has contributed, unfortunately, to the demise of both formats.

Sort of on-topic, since it was mentioned:

I finally decided to pick up the MVI Nightfly Trilogy (I had originally passed because I have Morph the Cat on DVD-A in the 2-disk original release), and I am very impressed at the DTS5.1 encodes - very transparent. I'll attempt to compare the DVD-A and DTS5.1 of MtC later, if I get a chance. (Not likely, to be honest...)

If anyone is looking for it, it sells for a little less on the Amazon marketplace. Much less than what I saw as in in-store B&M price elsewhere!

The MVI format does little for me with all the extras I really don't need, but the audio encodes are at least not being completely trashed.

shinksma