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StrangeCock 02-13-08, 10:43 AM In theory, I'm a huge Blu-ray supporter. But in reality, I really haven't purchased many titles...there just aren't many out that I HAVE to have.
Run Lola Run is an exception. I'm all over this one, as long as it's a significant picture upgrade over the DVD. So...are there any reviews out there yet? Has anyone snagged an early copy? Thanks.
mosman22 02-13-08, 11:10 AM I pre odered this the day it was announced and i can't wait for it to arrive. The soundtrack should sound amazing with lossless audio, and i can't wait to hear "Biter Mannie, biter"(please pardon german spelling.
btf1980 02-13-08, 12:54 PM Day 1 purchase for me as well.
sailorrhett 02-13-08, 12:57 PM I also preordered this. My wife loves thefilm, and I have never seen it.
KlDesigns 02-13-08, 01:22 PM I saw the movie 3 times in theatres and watched it at least a dozen times on DVD.
Can't wait to see the PQ/AQ reviews.
Is this movie anything like 'Forest Gump'?
"Run Forest, Run!"
http://www.tomhanksland.com/Pics/forrest37.jpg
30XS955 User 02-13-08, 02:50 PM I'm not sure this movie would benefit much from upgrade to HD. Very poorly shot, grainy to the extent that noise on the SD version is a good enough substitute. I mean what you gain in grain was already there in noise, if that makes sense.
I'm not sure this movie would benefit much from upgrade to HD. Very poorly shot, grainy to the extent that noise on the SD version is a good enough substitute. I mean what you gain in grain was already there in noise, if that makes sense.
That's a pretty poor assumption - it's been shown in HD, and it is a remarkable improvement over the DVD.
J Brinkley 02-13-08, 03:20 PM I'm not sure this movie would benefit much from upgrade to HD. Very poorly shot, grainy to the extent that noise on the SD version is a good enough substitute. I mean what you gain in grain was already there in noise, if that makes sense.
That's an ancient DVD now and in severe need of an update. If done properly it should look great. It's a grainy film, and I hope that intended look is retained on the BR. I don't think you'd apply the same reasoning with regard to film grain and noise when we get to discussing Aliens on the format.
I'm not sure this movie would benefit much from upgrade to HD. Very poorly shot, grainy to the extent that noise on the SD version is a good enough substitute. I mean what you gain in grain was already there in noise, if that makes sense.
I've seen RLR on HDNet Movies and it was a big improvement over the sd-dvd. I imagine the BD version will be even better.
StrangeCock 02-13-08, 03:35 PM Anything will be better than the first time I saw it in a theater. About halfway through, it got stuck and we watched as the print melted. While it looked cool, it kind of ruined the momentum of the film.
UxiSXRD 02-13-08, 04:25 PM I never bought this on DVD (borrowed from a friend at the time), so I'm almost certainly getting this on BD, barring hideous reviews.
RScottyL 02-13-08, 05:00 PM I too would like to get this when it comes out.
Definately some good music in it that should sound great in uncompressed sound.
BuckNaked 02-14-08, 11:06 AM Wasn't this shot on "mixed medium", i.e., some film and some video tape? I wonder how that will translate to 1080p/24.....
:confused:
Jiffylush 02-14-08, 11:10 AM I already own the flipper version of this (WS one side, FS the other side).
I would like to see some reports about how much of an improvement this is, but I love the movie and may not be able to stop myself from buying this.
Funny, the reason I watched the first Bourne movie, was that she was in it. In fact, I was pissed as hell about 5 minutes into the 2nd one (you know why).
Chris Rein 02-14-08, 11:24 AM Fantastic film.
Never heard of it until a friend recommended it to me shortly after it was originally released. I really want this disc. Hopefully the transfer is nice.
Funny, the reason I watched the first Bourne movie, was that she was in it. In fact, I was pissed as hell about 5 minutes into the 2nd one (you know why).
he! me too. I still "cry" when I watch Bourne 2.
J Brinkley 02-14-08, 08:49 PM Definately some good music in it that should sound great in uncompressed sound.
This is what I am most excited about as well. The soundtrack is still played frequently on my ipod and I'm really excited to hear it with the movie -- it's been quite some time since I watched it start to finish.
Hopefully the BD release will create some new fans of the movie.
Chris Rein 02-14-08, 10:54 PM My order is on it's way from the U.K. I could have ordered the U.S version but as per imdb U.S running time is 80 minutes and overseas editions running time is 81 minutes.
Typo maybe?
For all we know it had 30 seconds of intro and 30 seconds of credit blank space? Unless it says director's cut or something? Maybe I'm missing something here. What exactly is the 1 min of? :confused:
lgans316 02-14-08, 10:56 PM I too have no clue buddy. The U.K version of Kung Fu Hustle by the way was UNCUT and it ran 30 seconds more than the U.S version.
Rathbone 02-15-08, 10:33 AM Received mine today.
I agree with the review by dvdauthority. PQ is very good. Excellent colors, not too grainy, significantly more detail.
Kram Sacul 02-15-08, 10:34 AM Are the selectable subtitles white or yellow?
RScottyL 02-15-08, 11:24 AM I am definately glad to hear that the first reviews that are coming in are saying that there is very good improvements over the dvd version.
dougotte 02-15-08, 12:04 PM Are the selectable subtitles white or yellow?
Good question. We were very frustrated watching "The Host." The subtitles were plain white w/ no background. For many scenes, where the actual film had white in the same area of the frame, the subtitles were illegible. We had to switch the English dub.
Also, the review mentions 2 TrueHD tracks; because I'm not able to hear TrueHD yet, I wonder if it has any other tracks (PCM, vanilla DTS or DD?).
Thanks,
Doug
Ralph Potts 02-15-08, 12:05 PM Greetings,
http://www.***************.com/fusionbb/showtopic.php?tid/140523/
Regards,
Brad1963 02-15-08, 01:03 PM First review is up but ain't comprehensive.
http://www.dvdauthority.com/reviews.asp?reviewID=5508
This review is not correct; I have the BD and it has a new (10 years later)retrospective featurette on it and is a BD exclusive supplement.
joeblow 02-15-08, 01:12 PM Greetings,
http://www.***************.com/fusionbb/showtopic.php?tid/140523/
Regards,
Nice writeup. I'm picking it up as soon as I see it on the shelf.
Ralph Potts 02-15-08, 01:19 PM Nice writeup. I'm picking it up as soon as I see it on the shelf.
Greetings,
Glad you enjoyed it. I enjoyed this one more than I thought I would...
Regards,
Kram Sacul 02-17-08, 03:29 AM Good question. We were very frustrated watching "The Host." The subtitles were plain white w/ no background. For many scenes, where the actual film had white in the same area of the frame, the subtitles were illegible. We had to switch the English dub.
This is why white subtitles with a black outline are the best. The broadcast HD version I have has burned in yellow subtitles which are IMO fugly and not what I saw in the theater.
Tom Monahan 02-17-08, 11:04 PM Any annoying edge enhancement?
Dave Mack 02-17-08, 11:38 PM Any annoying edge enhancement?
Is there any other kind...?
:)
clear31 02-17-08, 11:54 PM Is the title worth a blind buy? Never saw the film but heard good things. Is there anything it is like?
Ralph Potts 02-18-08, 07:27 AM Greetings,
Any annoying edge enhancement?
No noticeable edge enhancement.
Is the title worth a blind buy? Never saw the film but heard good things. Is there anything it is like?
I can't comment regarding whether or not it is worth a blind buy to you. I would say that it is worth the chance. Conceptually it is not new but I can't think of anything that I could compare it to.
Regards,
Ralph Jenkins 02-18-08, 11:52 AM I might compare it to Crank, in that it's a fast-paced adrenaline rush for 90 mins. It's a better movie than Crank, though.
JustBKaz 02-18-08, 01:02 PM It's a FAR better movie than Crank.
Well, it's in german. So you need to read english subs.
It has an electronic soundtrack. If you hate that kind of music you won't enjoy the movie most probably.
It's a pretty basic story. But it's a very entertaining movie.
OldCodger73 02-18-08, 07:17 PM I might compare it to Crank, in that it's a fast-paced adrenaline rush for 90 mins. It's a better movie than Crank, though.
I hope not, shudder. I could only make it to the 27 minute mark with Crank, absolutely the worst 27 minutes of a movie I've ever watched.
I put Run Lola Run No.1 in my Netflix queue and returned the disc I had out Friday. According to my queue it's shipping today for a 20 Februrary arrival, must be coming from somewhere other than the normal Tacoma warehouse. Anyway, I'm looking forward to seeing it for the first time.
lgans316 02-18-08, 08:59 PM +1. Crank is easily the worst movie I have seen. When the b**bies started popping out in some scenes my better half got furious and walked out of the TV room.
methos75 02-19-08, 12:04 AM +1. Crank is easily the worst movie I have seen. When the b**bies started popping out in some scenes my better half got furious and walked out of the TV room.
You must not watch many movies then, I can damn about 300 worse ones. That said, Run Lola Run is much better than Crank, but its hard to really compare the two since they are vastly different genres.
lgans316 02-19-08, 01:08 AM http://www.dvdbeaver.com/film2/DVDReviews35/run_lola_run_blu-ray.htm
divedude 02-19-08, 09:14 PM My copy arrived from Amazon today. :cool: I think I will go with the German audio and the subtitles.
RScottyL 02-19-08, 09:22 PM I received it from Netflix today, on Blu-Ray!
I will watch it later tonight, but definately looking forward to it!
UPDATE: Okay, after watching this, I was quite happy with it. Unfortunately there looks like they had an SD camera that they shot part of the scenes with, because the resolution was lower than most of the movie!
The sound was really good, and I chose to watch it with the original German track and with English subtitles!
Also, if you liked the music in the movie, I recommend catching Franka Potente's music video of "Believe" that's on the disc! She looks ALOT better in that video!
OldCodger73 02-19-08, 10:32 PM My copy from Netflix arrived today also, one day early. I'll watch it later this evening once SWMBO gets through watching Jeopardy.
I got my copy from Netflix today and watched it this evening. Overall, some subtle improvements for PQ over the HDNet Movies version I had seen earlier, but not a huge difference. German soundtrack with subtitles for the win :)
sharkcohen 02-19-08, 11:22 PM My copy arrived from Amazon today. :cool: I think I will go with the German audio and the subtitles.
That's the only way to watch this film properly.
I watched the dvd several times when it was released and I can't believe I never noticed scenes filmed in video and film. :)
The Blu-ray looks really good, of course the film scenes look really great and the video parts looks like... video.
OldCodger73 02-20-08, 12:33 PM Franka Potente was the heart and soul of Bourne 1, when they wrote her character out in Bourne 2 the series became nothing more than a by the numbers action car chase flix. So Run Lola Run was a movie I was interested in watching, but prior to its BD release I’ve always been put off by Maltin’s style over substance review.
Thanks to Netflix I was able to watch the movie last night and to a certain degree I agree with Maltin’s assessment; this definitely seemed a director’s showcase, a statement of look what I can do. While there was a lot of running, there was little in the way of outstanding acting nor did the script call for any. The first segment of the movie left me cold, it was only about in the middle of segment two that I started to get involved in the movie and the third segment was much more involving. I think what ultimately weakened the movie for me was that the boyfriend was such a major league looser that Lola’s devotion to him didn’t ring true. Anyway, I’d rate this a 3 out of 5 on Netflix’s scale. While I would like to watch Run Lola Run one more time, this is definitely only a rental for me. The only way I would consider owning it was on a BOGO when there were no other titles I could find to complete the deal.
I thought the sound track was very appropriate to the movie and complemented it quite well, just different enough but not obnoxiously so.
Since this is a BD disc a comment on PQ is appropriate. I’ve never seen the movie before so I can’t comment on how it compared to in theatre or on DVD; however to me PQ seemed all over the place. Outdoor scenes generally seemed quite sharp with good color, some of the inside scenes, particularly of Lola’s father and his mistress looked to be filmed in low grade video, they were soft and grainy. In the third segment at the start of the scene where the street person who has the money bag is at the drink counter, the stand’s sign seemed distorted with a lot of what looked to me to be moiré pattern. Overall I would place PQ in the lower level of Tier 3, maybe around Superman Returns.
lgans316 02-20-08, 09:33 PM I should be receiving my copy from sendit.com today and Almost Famous tomorrow. Let me first check the visual quality and post my thoughts.
I could not play the music video, part of the extras, on a PS3. It just hangs. Anyone else have this problem?
OldCoger,
Yeah, some scenes were filmed in video. That's why they look that bad. Of course there's a meaning for that from the director. :)
methos75 02-21-08, 10:13 PM Just got done watching it, and yeah those video scenes look hella bad. Man are they crap looking. The rest looks outstanding though, someone else said its tier 3, personally I say tier 4, about on par with movies like Ghostrider IMO.
divedude 02-23-08, 03:34 PM There are 2 places; at 57 minutes and at 63 minutes, where for a few seconds, various white lines get very jaggy. I believe this is during a video section, but it really looks bad for a few seconds. I have been able to duplicate it on both my Panny BD30 and BD10 and believe it is a problem with the encoding.
This is an excellent movie with a log of symbolism. And worth watching several times. ;)
EDIT: I put down the wrong times and changed them.
Rob Tomlin 02-24-08, 01:09 AM That's the only way to watch this film properly.
This has been coming up a lot for me lately it seems, but: that's the only way to watch any foreign film properly IMO.
Others have mentioned that Anime can be an exception, but generally speaking, subtitles are the way to go over dubs, without question.
Kram Sacul 02-24-08, 02:12 AM Are the subs at least white like the theatrical version?
Are the subs at least white like the theatrical version?
Yes
raoul_duke 02-24-08, 11:30 AM I like the white subs but was secretly hoping that they'd be light yellow, just like they are in the Still Running featurette. They're a subtitle yellow, nowhere near as bad as the terrible Sony DVD subs,(which never appeared here in the UK, we got white subs).
The actual colours of the transfer, now THAT's another matter...
Deviation 02-24-08, 12:29 PM Franka Potente was the heart and soul of Bourne 1, when they wrote her character out in Bourne 2 the series became nothing more than a by the numbers action car chase flix. So Run Lola Run was a movie I was interested in watching, but prior to its BD release I’ve always been put off by Maltin’s style over substance review.
They only broke from the books and wrote Potente out because she wanted out. She didn't like the physical demands of the first movie and was not willing to do another.
I liked her quite a lot in the first film but the other two are still great without her.
tcwatkins 02-24-08, 04:48 PM They only broke from the books and wrote Potente out because she wanted out. She didn't like the physical demands of the first movie and was not willing to do another.
I liked her quite a lot in the first film but the other two are still great without her.
Not to get too off the subject but the Bourne films are nothing like the books. I saw an interview where the screen writer said he deliberately did not read the books so he wouldn't be influenced by them when writing the screenplay. And if you've read the books you know that must be true. It's like the first film was based on a one-sentence summary of the book. The next two films weren't even based on a summary of the books.
raoul_duke 02-24-08, 06:23 PM As I've mentioned elsewhere, the colors on this disc are not what they,(in my mind), looked like originally. There's a strange yellow tint to the whole movie, as opposed to the prev purple one. Odd!
sharkcohen 02-25-08, 01:24 AM Hrmmm, I didn't notice a yellow a yellow tint. However, I do think this release is the best the movie has ever looked.
lgans316 02-25-08, 03:48 AM HDD review is up.
http://bluray.highdefdigest.com/1282/runlolarun.html
Kram Sacul 02-25-08, 05:15 AM Hrmmm, I didn't notice a yellow a yellow tint. However, I do think this release is the best the movie has ever looked.
Well I would hope so. :D
If there is indeed a yellow tint I guess I'll hold onto the HDNet broadcast, even if it's ruined by yellow subtitles.
LOL! I got like a dozen req for screenshots for this title. Whats "wrong" with it exactly?
Rob Tomlin 02-25-08, 11:22 AM LOL! I got like a dozen req for screenshots for this title. Whats "wrong" with it exactly?
Color. Big differences.
Rob Tomlin 02-25-08, 11:25 AM HDD review is up.
http://bluray.highdefdigest.com/1282/runlolarun.html
It looks like HDD's site is completely down right now. Can you give us a summary of the review?
SirDrexl 02-26-08, 03:37 AM Another question: does this have the blue line that runs down the screen at around 13:08, when she's approaching the old woman with the stroller, or has that been fixed/removed? I think it's elsewhere in the film as well, due to the sequence being repeated. I'm not sure if it's in the original source or what.
lgans316 02-26-08, 04:12 AM It looks like HDD's site is completely down right now. Can you give us a summary of the review?
The Video: Sizing Up the Picture
Despite its frantic visual stylings, Sony reinvigorates 'Run Lola Run' with a remarkably reliable and colorful 1080p/AVC MPEG-4 transfer. Lola's hair blazes across the screen with an intensity often lost in modern cinematography. Many of the films I've reviewed are bleached, depressing affairs with muted palettes -- 'Run Lola Run' is packed with vibrant reds, blues, and greens. Contrast is appealing as well, preserving a fair amount of detail in the dark shadows and a comfortable sheen of white in the bright sky. Fine object detail receives the most notable improvement over the aging standard DVD. While the upgrade is evident across the board, look no further than the casino scene to see how much of an impact it has. Note the etching on each chip, the felt on the tables, and the texture of the clock -- compared to the muddy DVD, its near revelatory.
Unfortunately, it's not a perfect experience. Blacks aren't always completely resolved and are randomly tinted with a variety of colors throughout the film. Skintones are usually spot on, but occasionally appear flushed, even when the actors aren't exerting themselves. Finally, there were a handful of instances where grain spiked mid-scene, leaving me wondering if I was witnessing a product of the camera or a mild compression issue on the disc.
Even so, these three minor issues are mere nitpicks in an otherwise impressive catalog presentation. Fans can chuck their old DVDs and finally see 'Run Lola Run' the way it was meant to be seen.
The Audio: Rating the Sound
'Run Lola Run' features two Dolby TrueHD 5.1 surround tracks -- an original German language mix and an English dub for anyone who can't stand subtitles. Both tracks are particularly strong, but the German mix is my track of choice since I feel dubbed dialogue always seems disjointed from the soundfield (even when I close my eyes and simply listen).
Preferences aside, each track provides a substantial improvement over the early DVD release. The first thing I noticed was that the dynamics really pop -- low-end LFE support is both healthy and generous, inflating the intense beats of the techno soundtrack with heavy, pulsing thooms. The extreme treble ranged tones in the film also receive the benefits of an uncompressed mix -- the wail of the ambulance's siren is crystal clear, and Lola's high-pitched screams don't encounter the peaking issues they did before. Dialogue is clean and well prioritized, subtle ambiance constantly contributes to the soundscape, and pans are perfectly transparent.
If I take any legitimate issue with the TrueHD tracks, it's that the rear channels aren't used to their potential. There are quite a few times when these speakers are called upon to deepen the soundfield (the snapshot montages, the casino scene, and the staircase run, to name a few), but more often than not, the rear channels are relegated to support work. Considering the fact that 'Run Lola Run' is such a kinetic experience, I expected the new tracks to be more involving.
Still, both the German and English TrueHD tracks provide an excellent upgrade for anyone who already owns the standard DVD. For a foreign catalog film, Sony has once again pulled out the stops and delivered an impressive effort.
Kram Sacul 02-26-08, 08:42 AM LOL! I got like a dozen req for screenshots for this title. Whats "wrong" with it exactly?
Supposedly the BRD has a yellow tint. The HDNet broadcast doesn't. We need to see more evidence to see what's wrong.
HDNet: http://img259.imageshack.us/img259/8048/vlcsnap1221421xz3.png
BD: http://www.image-load.eu/out.php/i25339_lola1.png
lgans316 02-26-08, 08:50 AM Interesting. Hope that the addition of yellow tint was intentional.
Kram Sacul 02-26-08, 09:01 AM It's possible the HDNet broadcast is off (not a surprise)but I dunno. The red fleshtones are a lot more natural than yellow.
Captures of various dvd versions from DVD-Compare.com (http://www.dvdbeaver.com/comparisons/comparisons/l_m/lolarennt/Default.htm)
StrangeCock 02-26-08, 09:48 AM Just got it last night and noticed no yellow tint. But I did pop in the old DVD. This Blu-ray is a HUGE improvement. A lot more bright, less muddy, and sharp. You can really tell during the animation sequences...they're so clear and bright now.
SirDrexl 02-26-08, 02:17 PM It's possible the HDNet broadcast is off (not a surprise)but I dunno. The red fleshtones are a lot more natural than yellow.
Captures of various dvd versions from DVD-Compare.com (http://www.dvdbeaver.com/comparisons/comparisons/l_m/lolarennt/Default.htm)
Those pictures show the blue line I was talking about.
raoul_duke 02-26-08, 02:27 PM Hmmm, going by those stills, the yellow is correct on the previous dvd releases. It's the Sony DVDs that are different. Odd!!
The actual colours of the transfer, now THAT's another matter...
Indeed...
http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/9342/lolabrdvdcompare1yu2.th.jpg (http://img405.imageshack.us/my.php?image=lolabrdvdcompare1yu2.jpg)
http://img403.imageshack.us/img403/3135/lolabrdvdcompare2kz2.th.jpg (http://img403.imageshack.us/my.php?image=lolabrdvdcompare2kz2.jpg)
http://whiggles.landofwhimsy.com/archives/2008/02/lola_redux.html
raoul_duke 02-26-08, 02:58 PM ^^^^I saw those. It was this is also what made me think that the BD colors were wrong. Since seeing the DVDBeaver stills, I've changed my mind as all the DVDs EXCEPT the Sony release have a yellow tint.
Kram Sacul 02-26-08, 07:07 PM Took some time but here are some comparisons between the broadcast HDNet version and the BRD captures found on this page. (http://whiggles.landofwhimsy.com/archives/2008/02/dear_universal_this_is_what_a.html)
The BRD appears to have a yellow tint making Lola's hair more of an orange than red, but it also has better detail and better contrast. The improved/boosted contrast has major negatives though: the sky is blown out here (http://horn.hdtvtotal.com/hdtvtotal/scripts/waggle/waggle.php?hd=http://whiggles.landofwhimsy.com/hdcaptures/lola6.jpg&sd=http://img176.imageshack.us/img176/5829/lrhdnet6yy1.jpg) and here (http://horn.hdtvtotal.com/hdtvtotal/scripts/waggle/waggle.php?hd=http://whiggles.landofwhimsy.com/hdcaptures/lola9.jpg&sd=http://img176.imageshack.us/img176/4189/lrhdnet9ch0.jpg), less detail on the gun (http://horn.hdtvtotal.com/hdtvtotal/scripts/waggle/waggle.php?hd=http://whiggles.landofwhimsy.com/hdcaptures/lola7.jpg&sd=http://img176.imageshack.us/img176/6783/lrhdnet7qv6.jpg), clipped detail on the credits (http://horn.hdtvtotal.com/hdtvtotal/scripts/waggle/waggle.php?hd=http://whiggles.landofwhimsy.com/hdcaptures/lola2.jpg&sd=http://img443.imageshack.us/img443/4245/lrhdnet2is9.jpg). Disappointing. It's not Dracula or Fifth Element disappointing but being a huge fan of this film it's disheartening, especially when we know from the HDNet broadcast that a more accurate transfer is out there. I don't know what else to say. Check it out:
HDNet broadcast captures
http://img443.imageshack.us/img443/6133/lrhdnet1od1.th.jpg (http://img443.imageshack.us/my.php?image=lrhdnet1od1.jpg)http://img443.imageshack.us/img443/4245/lrhdnet2is9.th.jpg (http://img443.imageshack.us/my.php?image=lrhdnet2is9.jpg)http://img443.imageshack.us/img443/7475/lrhdnet3lv2.th.jpg (http://img443.imageshack.us/my.php?image=lrhdnet3lv2.jpg)
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Waggle Mouseovers
Waggle 1 (http://horn.hdtvtotal.com/hdtvtotal/scripts/waggle/waggle.php?hd=http://whiggles.landofwhimsy.com/hdcaptures/lola1.jpg&sd=http://img443.imageshack.us/img443/6133/lrhdnet1od1.jpg) Waggle 2 (http://horn.hdtvtotal.com/hdtvtotal/scripts/waggle/waggle.php?hd=http://whiggles.landofwhimsy.com/hdcaptures/lola2.jpg&sd=http://img443.imageshack.us/img443/4245/lrhdnet2is9.jpg) Waggle 3 (http://horn.hdtvtotal.com/hdtvtotal/scripts/waggle/waggle.php?hd=http://whiggles.landofwhimsy.com/hdcaptures/lola3.jpg&sd=http://img443.imageshack.us/img443/7475/lrhdnet3lv2.jpg)
Waggle 4 (http://horn.hdtvtotal.com/hdtvtotal/scripts/waggle/waggle.php?hd=http://whiggles.landofwhimsy.com/hdcaptures/lola4.jpg&sd=http://img176.imageshack.us/img176/29/lrhdnet4kl9.jpg) Waggle 5 (http://horn.hdtvtotal.com/hdtvtotal/scripts/waggle/waggle.php?hd=http://whiggles.landofwhimsy.com/hdcaptures/lola5.jpg&sd=http://img176.imageshack.us/img176/7038/lrhdnet5zn8.jpg) Waggle 6 (http://horn.hdtvtotal.com/hdtvtotal/scripts/waggle/waggle.php?hd=http://whiggles.landofwhimsy.com/hdcaptures/lola6.jpg&sd=http://img176.imageshack.us/img176/5829/lrhdnet6yy1.jpg)
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Rob Tomlin 02-26-08, 07:14 PM Wow, the sky is really blown out. What's really strange about that is the fact that the rest of the picture doesn't seem to have much of an elevated brightness. In other words, there does not appear to be any advantages to the blown highlights in the sky (in order to bring out shadow detail in darker parts of the frame).
Very strange.
The yellow tint is pretty ugly too.
sharkcohen 02-26-08, 07:57 PM Hrmmm, I'll have to watch the BD again because I don't remember things looking like this.
lgans316 02-26-08, 09:30 PM Looks like the yellow tint has been purposefully added to boost contrast and provide more color fidelity. The Blu-ray version looks clearer and sharper but the washed out skyline is slightly disappointing. This kind of post processing reminds me of Transporter.
Kram Sacul 02-26-08, 10:21 PM Judging from the screen captures I'd say that they're both from the same transfer. The only differences are the obvious contrast boost and color timing (ie yellow filter). Everything else is the same. You can pretty much duplicate the look of the BRD by cranking the contrast and tilting the color balance to yellow or using a yellow filter. Yeah, it's that easy.
raoul_duke 02-27-08, 03:30 PM Tom Tykwer never bothered emailing me back regarding this. Tut!
Kram Sacul 02-27-08, 05:43 PM He's probably still on the phone with Sony screaming "Why is my movie yellow?!"
raoul_duke 02-27-08, 07:40 PM He's probably still on the phone with Sony screaming "Why is my movie yellow?!"
ROTFL!!!! :D
42Plasmaman 02-28-08, 10:24 AM Never seen the movie until now and was quite good. The TrueHD Audio was great even though it was German.
The PQ was anywhere from great to OK but it seems that the lack of PQ in some scences were intentional for "artistic expression."
No worse PQ fluxuation than some of Planet Earth on Blu-ray. Especially disc 2 in the first 30 minutes when they are going in to the caves.
OldCodger73 02-28-08, 02:16 PM They only broke from the books and wrote Potente out because she wanted out. She didn't like the physical demands of the first movie and was not willing to do another.
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I haven't watched Bourne 1 in a while but it would seem to me that that movie was a walk in the park compared to all the physical demands placed on her in Run Lola Run.
eric.exe 03-01-08, 12:09 AM So, how much is 100,000 deutschmarks in 1998 USD anyway? I can't find a converter since they use euros now.
Kram Sacul 03-01-08, 01:41 PM But one thing to keep in mind is that the director's intent is not always to show you every last bit of detail that he shot. Having blown out whites or crushed blacks can very well be part of the style of the film. Look at Transformers for example.
That is true but I'm pretty sure it's not the case with this film. The yellow tint does look like it was applied intentionally, for better or worse, but the blown out highlights scream of sloppiness. Reminds me of a lot of bad transfers with contrast boosting.
gaderson 03-02-08, 11:30 AM So, how much is 100,000 deutschmarks in 1998 USD anyway? I can't find a converter since they use euros now.
If I remember correctly it was about 2:1 DM to $, so ~ $50,000.
As for the color, I did notice it (and the blue lines with Lola running past the wall in the second segment?), but, in the featurette '10 years, and still running' the colors were more normal (most noticeable in the segments with Manni in the phone booth), so something's up.
joeblow 03-02-08, 02:11 PM I can't find this title anywhere at local stores.
stefanpaulmayer 03-07-08, 01:28 PM does anyboy else have problems to get it to work on a BD-P1000?
tried to run it first with firmware 1.4, now I have 1.5 and it still doesn't play the disc. only the auto-loader image (lolas head in this case) appears, then the player freezes...
chillspace 03-27-08, 12:54 AM I can't find this title anywhere at local stores.
I haven't seen this in any Canadian stores here in Calgary. I got my copy from deepdiscount.com. Still have to sit down and watch it, though. And everyone is talking about the yellow tinting. I'll check my original DVD version to compare this, too.
lgans316 04-02-08, 03:16 AM Finally got an opportunity to watch Run Lola Run. The PQ was excellent on most parts except for the unusual push of yellow tint. I was surprised to find that the yellow tint was missing in the sequences featured in the special features section.
UxiSXRD 04-02-08, 12:16 PM Forgot to comment on this when I got it, but just watched it again last night. The yellow'ish tint was noticible and a bit distracting in certain places, but not all the time. PQ was very good otherwise.
I really enjoyed the AQ, much more than i thought I would. The base was rattling and that beat really thrummed my living room. Franka's screams were, of course, ear splitting. :D Dialogue was very clear. I only did the German TrueHD as I detest dubs, though, so can't comment on the English TrueHD track.
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