View Full Version : Is green channel/decoder out of wack?
Franke46 02-13-08, 10:11 PM Using the DVE DVD, I adjusted color on my HC1500 so that using the blue filter the intensity on all blocks matches the reference. The red filter also shows a pattern that matches the demo, with all the blocks showing the same intensity and some others completely black.
Using the green filter though. I am supposed to get three black blocks follwed by 3 full blocks, and I'm not getting anything close to that. It looks more like a checkered pattern. Do you think this is something I can adjust? Or is it something wrong with my color decoder that can only be fixed by a professional calibration?
I only have access to a color control and the RGB brigthness and contrast.
Frank
No. Green is out of whack from the DVE filter for some reason. From my Sony XBR970, I was able to shut of all colors except blue or red or green, in order not to use the filter and was able to match red and green just fine. And when I use the filters, blue and red looks great, yet the green filter seems to show discoloration dispite correcting it through the service menu. I'm still not sure why. But green is far less important than blue and red.
ChrisWiggles 02-16-08, 12:39 AM Maybe, maybe not. Yes green can be out of whack, but it also could be the filter limitation as mentioned above. If you have a green-only mode on your display, that is better than using the filter.
One thing to note is that green can be very wrong if there's a matrix mismatch in your system, which will most heavily affect green saturation.
Avatar8481 04-03-08, 10:59 PM I've been experiencing the same issue when I use the green filter from the new BD-DVE disc.
I used it to to calibrate to the DVE disc images, and the THX optimizer images on both a plasma and a projector, using both BD and SD-DVD. Under no circumstances could I get the green to appear as it should (same checkerboard images that Franke46 is describing)
Is it possible that the green filter in the DVE box just isn't right? is there a way to confirm that in the absence of a single color mode as described above?
I suppose I could pick up Avia II or I and compare, as somebody else has described, but I don't want to go on a wild goose chase.
nicholc2 04-04-08, 02:46 AM I can attest to the green filter being inaccurate. I calibrated a samsung 1080p DLP set this past weekend and in the service menu, changed the x,y coordinates to plot an exact 709 match for primaries and secondaries. Out of curiosity, I had DVE with me at the time so I looked through the filter. The filter showed green as off and obviously I knew this was not true.
Just remember the filters aren't made to get you an exact reference match. They're made to get you as close as possible using the naked eye. They're better than nothing, but definitely not perfect.
rickardl 04-04-08, 06:08 AM I can attest to the green filter being inaccurate. I calibrated a samsung 1080p DLP set this past weekend and in the service menu, changed the x,y coordinates to plot an exact 709 match for primaries and secondaries. Out of curiosity, I had DVE with me at the time so I looked through the filter. The filter showed green as off and obviously I knew this was not true.
Just remember the filters aren't made to get you an exact reference match. They're made to get you as close as possible using the naked eye. They're better than nothing, but definitely not perfect.
Does the luminace (Y) have something to do with this?
Even if x and y are dead on, the Y value could be way off,
shouldn't that affect how it looks throught the filter??
Avatar8481 04-04-08, 06:53 AM Well, I was looking for an excuse to buy a colorimeter to play around with calibration, I guess I just found one. "But honey, this piece of plastic is wrong, and I need a 150$ gizmo to fix it."
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