So the Harmony One looks like a big improvement on the 880/90 other than the fact that there is no RF.
For me, since I have equipment in a cabinet I want to close, I want RF.
Any rumors on a Harmony One (or whatever the number) with RF?

Or possibly an RF add-on for "One" early adopters?

An RF add-on is not really possible. The RF transmitter must be built into the remote.

I asked Logitech about an RF model at CES and they said there was nothing in the works at this time. However, it's likely that they will add an RF model if the One proves successful, just like they did with the 880.

The one looks like the best remote out there currently. When they go RF im in.

The circuit board in the Harmony One is ready for the Z-Wave components...

http://www.dtvcontrol.com/harmony/Harmony1Guts.jpg

An RF add-on is not really possible. The RF transmitter must be built into the remote.

I asked Logitech about an RF model at CES and they said there was nothing in the works at this time. However, it's likely that they will add an RF model if the One proves successful, just like they did with the 880.

It actually seems to me that an RF addon would be completely possible, just not in the remote. How hard would it really be to have a seperate IR controlled RF transmitter module?

You could set it in the entertainment center and it could retransmit IR commands pretty easily.

It actually seems to me that an RF addon would be completely possible, just not in the remote. How hard would it really be to have a seperate IR controlled RF transmitter module?

You could set it in the entertainment center and it could retransmit IR commands pretty easily.

Not quite sure what you mean here.
I think the whole idea is to have the non-line of sight/sees through walls RF remote and then have an rf to ir transceiver inside an entertainment cabinet to use blasters to the ir components.

The one looks like the best remote out there currently. When they go RF im in.

Chime in for me gang. The reason why I want to wait for this to be RF is b/c through the years with my remotes I always have had problems with the single touch function; say if you want to watch a dvd three components turn on. (something never seems to turn on/off because IR is limited).

With RF this problem in my mind would be corrected since it would be transmitted through radio frequency. This is even though most if not all use of the remote would be in the same room.

What do you think of this?

Hands down, the best Remote I have ever had.

Bump... for any updates

I'm looking to change from my trusty Phillips Pronto and the Harmony remotes seem a good option, although I am tempted to go for another Philips as it's been a great remote.

I have been on the phone with customer support 4 times over the past weekend getting some light commands on my accounts and every time there is a break in the conversation I asked the tech about an RF version and their reply has been "I do not have any info on that at this time" I didn't want to call them out but they didn't say no and their responses were exactly the same as if they were prepped to say that. Take that for what it's worth but give it a try!

Two of the times were with level 2 support which i would assume would have more info than level 1.

I heard that the Harmony One RF will be announced tomorrow.

I heard that the Harmony One RF will be announced tomorrow.

LOL. It's not April 1st yet! :D

LOL. It's not April 1st yet! :D

Yes it is (now.)

Wake me when this thing is RF. I have the 890 and am never going back to pure IR but I do dislike the flat buttons on the 890.

Put me down for a Harmony One RF. Also have an 890 and the operation is great. The paint has scraped off the much used rocker switches and it looks grotty, but it does work. Having the gear behind closed doors is essential.

So, like others in the forum, zero chance I will buy the current Harmony One or recommend it or the current 890. But once a ZWave or Bluetooth or something comes out, I'll be back for me and all of those who depend upon me for advice.

Any news on Harmony One RF? Yes, I know, just wishful thinking.

I am still waiting for it. When it comes I will buy it.

I'm waiting too!

;)

Cedia:eek:

Cedia, but which year?

Cedia is for installers.
Harmony is a CES/ consumer direct company. I have not heard anything about an RF Harmony One or Harmony Two.

I was using the OEM Remote that came with my Denon receiver. I had touch screen and learning capability but the One is superior in all respects. I would be nice to have RF built in. Even without RF this is an awesome remote. I am sure at some point they we have to produce sister unit with RF.

I believe that both the Harmony 890, and the Harmony 1000 were originally launched at Cedia.

As the Harmony One seems to have replaced the 880, I think that many people (myself included) had been hoping for an announcement at CEDIA 2008 for a new rf remote to replace the 890.

I guess we'll just have to wait. :(

Now that I've got five Z-wave switches I'll need a Harmony One RF w/ Z-wave support to replace my 890.

Zip zero nada at cedia Come on!

Asked them about an RF version of the One at CEDIA. Nothing new to report. All the focus was on the Squeezebox.

That's not good news. I really would have thought they would have something out by this Christmas. I can't believe they wouldn't say anything about it at Cedia if it is coming out by then.

Thanks for reporting back to us though Mike.

Thanks Mike.

I saw a "Pre Show Product Showcase" at the following address, (sorry, to new to post a link) that lists a "Mystery Product" at the Logitech CEDIA booth. I thought that it might be a new remote.

cedia.customretailer.net/company/Logitech/44/

I know that there was a major problem with a firmware update that Harmony released around mid-August. I suppose if they had planned on releasing a new model, this might have caused them to hold off.

Does anyone know if Harmony has ever released a product outside of CES or CEDIA? Anything launched at CES probably wouldn't be available until at least Feb. 2009, which seems like a long time to wait for something that might not happen.

I too am waiting for the RF version of the "One" and it's been a frustrating wait! Whats going on over at Logitech? They had the Z-Wave chip all profiled out on the PCB when the One was introduced, how hard is it to implement?

*sigh*

So disappointed... but I can't trade my 890 for anything without RF.

Dito here:mad:

Just replaced my 890 with MX-810 + MRF-260 and could not be happier sorry logitech you lost me.:)

Does the MX-810 work with Z-wave?

Nope but it does not effect me. :)

Bummer!

Best form factor, great buttons, etc.......but no RF! Logitech is missing a MAJOR opportunity here.

I don't want to resort to the 890 but I may have to. Any opinions on the 890 vs. 890 Pro?

Exactly I agree 100%, but, now after riding with the MX-810 a couple of months I am very happy. I still have my 890 pm me if your interested.

Exactly I agree 100%, but, now after riding with the MX-810 a couple of months I am very happy. I still have my 890 pm me if your interested.

I am in the market for an IR/RF remote, and would prefer the Harmony One with RF. But, in lieu of that, I am looking at the URC MX-450, also designated the R50. It available on Amazon for $149, with the RF base station for $81.

Did you consider the 450 as well, or was the 810 your only option?

How would you recommend the 890 compared to the MX-810?

The MX-810 is far superior to my Harmony 890. I needed RF as well and am using the MRF-260 because it was all that I needed I wish now I would have got the MRF-350 to have more options down the road. On another note in retrospect I am glad the Harmony One is not RF because I would have missed out on the 810 and no touch screen. I think life with that touch screen would be tough for me. Wiping, pressing, wiping, pressing, and wiping.:)

The MX-810 is far superior to my Harmony 890. I needed RF as well and am using the MRF-260 because it was all that I needed I wish now I would have got the MRF-350 to have more options down the road. On another note in retrospect I am glad the Harmony One is not RF because I would have missed out on the 810 and no touch screen. I think life with that touch screen would be tough for me. Wiping, pressing, wiping, pressing, and wiping.:)

Sure thing. As an iPhone user, I know that drill all too well. Not a huge fan of touchscreens. Missing my Blackberry Curve a bit when it comes to mobile messaging & email...

So, is the MRF-260 limited in anyway vs. the 350? I have the 260 and the R50 (consumer version of the MX-450) in my Amazon shopping cart, ready to pull the trigger. I just know that when I buy it, Logitech will announce the RF version of the Harmony One.

I haven't yet touched/used the MX-450/R50 so I'm interested in your feedback on the MX-810 as to build quality (young kids using this, dropping it), the ergonomics, the button clickability/feel, etc. I assume this will be a near approximation for the qualities of the MX-450/R50. Hard to do when you can't try them out before buying.

Appreciate your feedback on the MX-810 from that perspective. Thanks!

Just replaced my 890 with MX-810 + MRF-260 and could not be happier sorry logitech you lost me.:)

One last question for you--

Do you need to setup the IR blaster on the MRF-260 on your TV (assuming that its IR receiver is exposed) for the MX-810, or can you use the IR on the MX-810 remote to control your TV via IR and not RF->IR blaster?

My intent is to use an RF remote for the components closed off in my cabinet (HD DVR cable box, PS3 with IR dongle, Sony HT-CT100 soundbar/receiver) but use the IR function of the remote with the IR receiver on my Samsung LCD TV (LN52A850) which is obviously in line-of-sight with the remote, but without requiring an IR blaster from the MRF-260 base station.

I am needing to run AV cables behind a wall to the TV, so I'd like to avoid running an IR blaster cable as well if possible. I want to ensure I can run this "mixed mode" of both RF for unexposed components, along with IR for my exposed TV.

Thanks.

Build quality is good imo and yes you can mix and match what you control with RF and IR in the software. The MRF-260 does not require any programing just set a channel number on it and the same channel in the MX-810 software not sure how that works on the MX-450/R50. The limitations of the 260 vs 350 the 350 has 2 more IR ports and a remote RF antenna so that you can locate it away from the equipment.

So, is the MRF-260 limited in anyway vs. the 350? I have the 260 and the R50 (consumer version of the MX-450) in my Amazon shopping cart, ready to pull the trigger. I just know that when I buy it, Logitech will announce the RF version of the Harmony One.

HoodooGuru, have you pulled the trigger and made this purchase yet? I've been comparing various remotes for the past few days and I'm almost certain I saw somewhere that while the MX-450 and R50 are mostly the same, the MX-450 has RF while the R50 does not.

HoodooGuru, have you pulled the trigger and made this purchase yet? I've been comparing various remotes for the past few days and I'm almost certain I saw somewhere that while the MX-450 and R50 are mostly the same, the MX-450 has RF while the R50 does not.

I have decided to go with the Harmony One and the Hot Link Pro IR repeater. I have components closed in a cabinet, and the Hot Link Pro IR repeater system has rave reviews. Plus, I prefer the features and ergonomics of the One remote. Just waiting for a rebate/sale/price drop.

My 58" plasma TV put out too much IR noise for the HotLink Pro to work properly. Had to go RF to get a reliable signal.

My 58" plasma TV put out too much IR noise for the HotLink Pro to work properly. Had to go RF to get a reliable signal.

I have a Samsung LN52A850 LCD TV and I plan to mount the IR receiver behind the outside bezel of the TV. According to the research I've done on this, it shoudl alleviate any potential IR interference that may exist in the room (from the TV, other components, etc.).

Which RF system/repeater did you go with? I may still need an RF backup in case this IR system fails me...

Does anybody else think a Harmony one RF will be shown next week at CES?

If it doesnt get announced next week I may have to pick up the URC MX 810. My big thing is that i hate not having the extra hard buttons that the Harmony One has. THe URC MX 810 just doesnt have enough buttons to mimic the most basic of Tivo functions im looking to have recreated with physical buttons. For example i dont want to have to scroll through five screens of buttons to get to the tivo button which i use all the time. Does anybody know of a good RF remote other than the Logitech 890 that has a lot of buttons you can customize. I realize the 810 allows customization of buttons but really i can't make the 7 button be my tivo button.
Hopefully i wont have to compromise.
Lemme know your thoughts

I too am curious about seeing whether or not the "One" will be shown in a RF model at CES. If it isn't shown this time around, then I believe Logitech will probably not come out with one, which would be a shame.

I too am looking at URC's products....Logitech is really missing the boat here!


If anyone has any info on a RF version of the Harmony One, please speak up!!! :)

i suppose with 3 days to CES we will just have to wait.

THe URC MX 810 just doesnt have enough buttons to mimic the most basic of Tivo functions im looking to have recreated with physical buttons. For example i dont want to have to scroll through five screens of buttons to get to the tivo button which i use all the time. Does anybody know of a good RF remote other than the Logitech 890 that has a lot of buttons you can customize. I realize the 810 allows customization of buttons but really i can't make the 7 button be my tivo button.
Hopefully i wont have to compromise.
Lemme know your thoughts

There is a dedicated menu button. On my Tivo config, I've only got a few soft keys. Thumbs, a Tivo Icon, and aspect. I also have the Tivo button mapped to Menu. IMO, the MX-810 has sufficient buttons for a Tivo. I think the default config has pages of buttons. Perhaps the only button I might add is "clear" so I have one-button delete. But all that would still fit on one page. I have both Harmony and URC remotes and the build quality of the URC is much better than the Harmony.

Logitech is definitely up to something....

http://www.i4u.com/article22528.html

THe URC MX 810 just doesnt have enough buttons to mimic the most basic of Tivo functions im looking to have recreated with physical buttons. For example i dont want to have to scroll through five screens of buttons to get to the tivo button which i use all the time.

Just use the hard "Menu" button.

Logitech is definitely up to something....

http://www.i4u.com/article22528.html

Boy, if this is what they're announcing at CES, I wouldn't hold out much hope for an RF version of the "One". The "improvements" in the 1100 over the 1000 appear to be limited to color and a higher resolution screen (unless I'm missing something)...hardly earth shattering and, imo, barely worth actually generating a new model for.

--Mav

Boy, if this is what they're announcing at CES, I wouldn't hold out much hope for an RF version of the "One". The "improvements" in the 1100 over the 1000 appear to be limited to color and a higher resolution screen (unless I'm missing something)...hardly earth shattering and, imo, barely worth actually generating a new model for.

--Mav

Don't forget that they didn't mention Z-wave support.

What is interesting is that they say there is new software. I assumed that it meant in the remote, but then again it seems as if they are talking about the online tools. Maybe the updated software would allow new feature for their other remotes (better sequencing support).

OK, just spoke with the PR Manager for Logitech. There are NO other planned announcements in the Harmony line. :(:(:(:( The 1100 is it.

URC here I come...I guess I'll pay the piper and grab a MX-980.

Chris

OK, just spoke with the PR Manager for Logitech. There are NO other planned announcements in the Harmony line. :(:(:(:( The 1100 is it.

URC here I come...I guess I'll pay the piper and grab a MX-980.

Chris

I'm a little surprised. As good as the One is there clearly are some areas of demand from owners that would take that product and "put it over the top" if they implemented those requests.

OK, just spoke with the PR Manager for Logitech. There are NO other planned announcements in the Harmony line. :(:(:(:( The 1100 is it.

URC here I come...I guess I'll pay the piper and grab a MX-980.

Chris

So I wonder if URC will figure out their increased February sales are from the 1100 announcement? A fixed 1000 is a no sale to me.

So I wonder if URC will figure out their increased February sales are from the 1100 announcement? A fixed 1000 is a no sale to me.
I agree, it is not impressive at all....oh well. I guess as consumers we can vote with our money.

So I wonder if URC will figure out their increased February sales are from the 1100 announcement? A fixed 1000 is a no sale to me.

Which URC product would you put favorably against either a 1000 or this thing?

Which URC product would you put favorably against either a 1000 or this thing?

Well, the point was that people were hoping for something besides another 1000 type remote. I'd like a URC MX-810, 880, or 890 with an RF base. People waiting for a Harmony 890 replacement (an RF version of the One with z-wave) and getting the 1100 announcement seems to be a let down IMO.

OK, just spoke with the PR Manager for Logitech. There are NO other planned announcements in the Harmony line. :(:(:(:( The 1100 is it.

URC here I come...I guess I'll pay the piper and grab a MX-980.

Chris


Exactly. I've been holding off on the MX-980 since its a no-brainer that there was a market for a RF capable One. I don't think I could generate any less interest in the 1100.

Exactly. I've been holding off on the MX-980 since its a no-brainer that there was a market for a RF capable One. I don't think I could generate any less interest in the 1100.

In general, RF seems to be where the demand is for a lot of people.

I'm surprised Logitech hasn't made more moves on that front like these:

Well, the point was that people were hoping for something besides another 1000 type remote. I'd like a URC MX-810, 880, or 890 with an RF base. People waiting for a Harmony 890 replacement (an RF version of the One with z-wave) and getting the 1100 announcement seems to be a let down IMO.

^^ I think this is what a lot of people want. Including me. ;)

Exactly. I've been holding off on the MX-980 since its a no-brainer that there was a market for a RF capable One. I don't think I could generate any less interest in the 1100.

I agree, the 1100 is a fine remote but I want buttons and RF, my last remote was touch screen and it just wasn't the same. Previous to my Pronto I had a Marantz RC-2000, which was a great remote for it's time and I loved having buttons.

I just ordered my MX-980 with RF extender. The total was $600 (!), but I hope this device will give me 5+ years of use like my Pronto has. If you are going to buy a 980, be sure to order from a retailer that will provide you with software updates, as URC is very strict about selling to end users.

Chris

I'm hoping that they are taking this extra time to do away with the touchscreen and go back to buttons next to the screen, I wouldn't bet on it though.

Does anyone remember how long it was between the release of the 880 and 890?
Edit/ just looked and they were only about 7 months apart. Not sure what is going on here.

I'm hoping that they are taking this extra time to do away with the touchscreen and go back to buttons next to the screen, I wouldn't bet on it though.

Does anyone remember how long it was between the release of the 880 and 890?
Edit/ just looked and they were only about 7 months apart. Not sure what is going on here.

What's even more ironic is that there is a OPEN SPOT on the Harmony One's PCB for the Z-Wave RF chip, so it was already designed with RF in mind!! It makes no sense... :confused: :(

Yeah that's what has me hoping they are getting rid of the touchscreen. If all they were going to do is add the RF chip it makes no sense that it is taking them more than a year to do that. They probably could have done it 6-7 months apart like they did the 880-890.

Maybe they are having trouble with Z-wave support. The 890 has it, but it never showed up on the 1000 even though it was originally promised, and it doesn't seem to be listed for the 1100 either. Maybe they are trying to get it working of the upgraded One and that is turning out more difficult (I think it would be a big mistake to replace the 890 with a remote that can't do Z-wave).

....Meanwhile, those of us waiting for an update of the Logitech Harmony One that offers RF (or maybe even Bluetooth, for those pesky PS3s) are out of luck; the Harmony 1100 is the company's only new remote for now.

http://ces.cnet.com/8301-19167_1-10132647-100.html?tag=mncol;title

Well, I guess that answers that.

--Mav

http://ces.cnet.com/8301-19167_1-10132647-100.html?tag=mncol;title

Well, I guess that answers that.

--Mav

What the hell is that guy talking about?

When Logitech released the Harmony 1000 (http://reviews.cnet.com/remote-controls/logitech-harmony-1000/4505-7900_7-32068854.html) in 2007, we were disappointed that the tablet-style remote lacked both RF support and the ability to customize its 3.5-inch touch screen.
...
The new Harmony 1100 includes both: RF support means that you'll be able to wirelessly control products outside your line of sight (though you'll need to invest in an RF-to-IR dongle kit to do so), and the ability to customize the on-screen buttons should make this the most tweakable Harmony to date.This is the same as the 1000 and even says so in their 1000 link.

What the hell is that guy talking about?

This is the same as the 1000 and even says so in their 1000 link.

Yeah, I noticed that too, but chose to ignore it in favor of the "hope dashing" comment regarding the RF "One".

--Mav

Why harmony has decided to update the 1000 at this time, and not the One, is anyone's guess.

It may not matter now though, as it looks like Acuostic Research has released an RF remote that may fit the bill.

http://ces.cnet.com/8301-19167_1-10133953-100.html?tag=mncol

I"ll be watching for reviews when this is released.

It may not matter now though, as it looks like Acuostic Research has released an RF remote that may fit the bill.

You can tell that they are new to the game. The biggest perk to hard buttons remotes is the tactile feedback. Making the buttons flush as they have is a mistake.

You can tell that they are new to the game. The biggest perk to hard buttons remotes is the tactile feedback. Making the buttons flush as they have is a mistake.

True, but is has RF which is the one MASSIVE feature that the One has been missing.

Someone at Logitech is asleep at the wheel on this deal.

True, but is has RF which is the one MASSIVE feature that the One has been missing.

Well, maybe so..., but there are several models, by several manufacturers, that also have RF, and have better ergonomics than the audiovox piece.

IMHO, if i were to spend $$$ in the audiovox price point. I'd focus on proven manufacturers that have gone through the growing/R&D pains already.

You can tell that they are new to the game. The biggest perk to hard buttons remotes is the tactile feedback. Making the buttons flush as they have is a mistake.

Are they completely flush? Its hard to tell from that pic. Those buttons do worry me, but I am definitely willing to give this remote a shot. I like the button layout, and I love the inclusion of the color buttons. Its a joke that Harmony hasn't released an RF One yet. The cheaper AR Xsight Color (at $180 msrp) might be a nice and cheaper RF option when used in combo with a Next Gen RF extender since it uses AA batteries.

Well, maybe so..., but there are several models, by several manufacturers, that also have RF, and have better ergonomics than the audiovox piece.

IMHO, if i were to spend $$$ in the audiovox price point. I'd focus on proven manufacturers that have gone through the growing/R&D pains already.

Audiovox = One-For-All so its not like they've never built a remote control before. Maybe their software will totally suck ... who knows?

Audiovox = One-For-All so its not like they've never built a remote control before. Maybe their software will totally suck ... who knows?

The remote looks interesting. I can't wait to see what it's like, and look forward to the reviews. The software may suck (who knows) but then, I'm not overly thrilled with Logitech's either. I desperately need RF to simplify things. Ideally I'd love the One with an RF option, but there's not even a peep about it.

I do like the look of the graphics on the Xsight more -- a bit less cartoony.

Audiovox = One-For-All so its not like they've never built a remote control before. Maybe their software will totally suck ... who knows?
One-For-All also equals UEI, who has been making universal remotes since the 80's. They're also OEM for DirecTV, Radio Shack, and about a dozen cable companies. At some point they've also OEM'd Tivo, Sling, Kenwood, RCA, Philips, Sony, Vizio, Toshiba, Panasonic, Sci Atlanta, Motorola, General Instruments, just to name a few. So they have literally over a hundred million remotes on the street. I'd say they know what they're doing. JP1ers have been hacking UEI remotes from their PC's for almost 10 years now. If UEI has learned anything from that, and from logitech, it will be a darn good remote.

Yeah that's what has me hoping they are getting rid of the touchscreen. If all they were going to do is add the RF chip it makes no sense that it is taking them more than a year to do that. They probably could have done it 6-7 months apart like they did the 880-890.

Maybe they are having trouble with Z-wave support. The 890 has it, but it never showed up on the 1000 even though it was originally promised, and it doesn't seem to be listed for the 1100 either. Maybe they are trying to get it working of the upgraded One and that is turning out more difficult (I think it would be a big mistake to replace the 890 with a remote that can't do Z-wave).
maybe they are re-engineering the type or RF protocol? just a thought... as you say, soldering on a z-wave chip and making some firmware changes for an already existing interface shouldn't be that difficult (though seeing how long it took to get some simple bugs on the 1000 fixed, maybe it's no surprise that it takes forever)

everybody keeps talking about things for the harmony one rf as though technical limitations were the major motivating factor to keep this remote of the market but i wonder from Harmony's perspective if there is any motivation to release this product. In their minds they already have an RF remote at a large price point around 200+ dollars. It may be that they just dont want to cannibalize their harmony one sales and at the same time make their 890 obsolete. This is obviously just wild guesswork but it seems logical to me at this point that the things preventing a Harmony one RF are business related and not technical in nature. I also wonder if they may think that a 300-400 rf remote which again is a guess at home much the harmony one rf would cost that just doesnt have the kind of market they need to move quickly when the alternative is to keep making the Harmony one IR which has been so successful. I would love a harmony one rf so hopefully i am wrong and it comes out soon though.

everybody keeps talking about things for the harmony one rf as though technical limitations were the major motivating factor to keep this remote of the market but i wonder from Harmony's perspective if there is any motivation to release this product. In their minds they already have an RF remote at a large price point around 200+ dollars. It may be that they just dont want to cannibalize their harmony one sales and at the same time make their 890 obsolete.

With this logic, they never would have released the Harmony One since it cannibalized the 880 sales. The 890 is nothing more than an 880 with RF and Z-wave. Regardless of whether Harmony releases an RF One, in my opinion, the 890 is already obsolete compared to other RF remotes in its pricerange. There are other far better options that already exist or in the pipeline from URC, Acoustic Research/Audiovox, etc.

With this logic, they never would have released the Harmony One since it cannibalized the 880 sales. The 890 is nothing more than an 880 with RF and Z-wave. Regardless of whether Harmony releases an RF One, in my opinion, the 890 is already obsolete compared to other RF remotes in its pricerange. There are other far better options that already exist or in the pipeline from URC, Acoustic Research/Audiovox, etc.

I agree with your criticism it just seems unlikely that technology is the only thing that is holding back the rf harmony remote. I wish they would just give me the option. I would have already purchased the URC 810 RF if it could turn of my ps3 via the ir2bt converter i already have. Oh well i guess ill keep holding out.

I would have already purchased the URC 810 RF if it could turn of my ps3 via the ir2bt converter i already have. Oh well i guess ill keep holding out.

I'm sorry to be off topic, but I don't understand why the above is making you hold off on a 810 purchase. A RF capable One won't do anything the 810 can't.

I'm sorry to be off topic, but I don't understand why the above is making you hold off on a 810 purchase. A RF capable One won't do anything the 810 can't.

I think it has to do with the hold-down of the PS button not working.

http://ir2bt.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=73

I think it has to do with the hold-down of the PS button not working.

http://ir2bt.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=73

this is correct. I am trying to get my hands on an ir4ps3 which i just found out does not have this issue. If i can get an ir4ps3 i am no longer going to wait for a harmony one rf. Not worth the wait to me.

At least the IR2BT has some resell value on eBay. There is also the PS3 Tooth Fairy and the PS3IR-PRO which shouldn't have the issue either since the macros are built into the converter.

I think it has to do with the hold-down of the PS button not working.

http://ir2bt.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=73

hmm.... you learn something every day.

Thanks for the link.

It's been a couple of months (almost)... anybody heard anything new about an RF version of the Harmony One?

I can only assume they are waiting until the day after I buy the current Harmony One.

Probably the same day. You'll order it, THEN see the announcement.

I like what shows up if you search google for "harmony one rf version" to find any information.

The first result is priceless http://www.google.com/search?source=ig&hl=en&rlz=&=&q=harmony+one+rf+version&btnG=Google+Search&aq=f

I guess there is still no word on a possible Harmony One/Two with RF support.

Hey Logitech.......you really dropped the ball on this one/two.

aw ****,

i thought that the "harmony one advanced" here in oz was RF capable but i think it's just a stoopid 're-branding' name...
http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/remotes/universal_remotes/&cl=au,en&page=&view=comparison&compProducts=4708,3898,370

I can't believe they don't have RF as well as IR on one of their top-notch remotes... Heck even the older 890 did....
Unbelievable....

Yeah! Are they on the verge of anything new? I'm in the market but i don't really like their current offerings.

It's coming....September 6 is the tentative launch date.

It's coming....September 6 is the tentative launch date.

Any more detail? Model no. etc?
Is that date for North America only or Worldwide?

Cheers,
J

I don't have any more details other than the date, and that the Harmony 670 is also receiving a makeover (body shape like the One, but no touchscreen). And the date is at least for the US, no mention of worldwide.

fair enough, thanks.

fair enough, thanks.
I'd be suspicious of anyone that spells the state capital of CA with more than one 'e'. ;)

Perhaps it's the Harmony H900 which was recently granted FCC approval (http://www.remoteshoppe.com/index.php?itemid=931) along with it's base station

that would look about right, wouldn't it?

how much do you think those are going to go for jim?

Hmm still quite some time before it's actually in Aussie stores I reckon.
Think I'll just proceed with the current king in approx. 1-mth....
But thanks for the "tid-bit", always nice to know!

What's interesting is the test report seems to indicate that it's ZigBee, not ZWave.

It looks like Logitech might have switched camps.

Since the RF4CE consortium merged with the ZigBee alliance a few months ago, this might be a very interesting remote.

Jonathan

I'd be suspicious of anyone that spells the state capital of CA with more than one 'e'. ;)

That's funny, I never noticed that before. More details: the remote is the Harmony 900, is coming for between 349-399, and will have dedicated colored buttons for blu-ray players.

... and will have dedicated colored buttons for blu-ray players.

And Directv DVRs!

That's funny, I never noticed that before. More details: the remote is the Harmony 900, is coming for between 349-399, and will have dedicated colored buttons for blu-ray players.

where'd you source this info? "remoteshoppe.com?"

cheers

nope, a few close friends saw it behind closed doors in the last few weeks

fair enough, keep the snippets flowing if you can! :D

CNET has a review up for the Harmony 900. Looks like what I have been waiting for.

http://reviews.cnet.com/remote-controls/logitech-harmony-900/4505-7900_7-33743663.html?tag=smallCarouselArea.0

Also on the Logitech page:

http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/remotes/universal_remotes/devices/5874&cl=us,en

Faaark, as I freakin expected, not available to the technological back-water that is Australia... Home sweet home...

Here's the discussion thread on the new Harmony 900: Official Logitech Harmony 900 thread (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1170063)

Faaark, as I freakin expected, not available to the technological back-water that is Australia... Home sweet home...

Just get one sent over from the US as I did with the 1100 and RF receiver.

I don't want one that badly, one's got to be a logistics engineer and prepared to put up with the risk involved to take that route :(

Never had a problem.
I've even had full speaker systems come over with out a problem.
Look HERE (http://www.priceusa.com.au/) they will do it for you.

Ha interesting,

I've never come across a US-based retailer that would ship to Australia! (Except for Mac retailer OWC)
Then again there's always the issues of; returning if faulty, & costing slightly more than a local purchase.*
Apparently it 'will' be available to Australia, when? God only knows!

*tis not always the case, often cheaper i imagine, even with postage.

hmmm... odd.

I know there are 900 beta testers in Ozzyland.

I guess testing and marketing are two different things ;)

I guess testing and marketing are two different things ;)

This is true ;)

Faaark, as I freakin expected, not available to the technological back-water that is Australia... Home sweet home...
just an FYI, the reason the 890, 1000 and 1100 were not available in australia was rf frequency/licensing issue. they created the 1000i and 1100i that were IR only for australia.

the 900 uses the ECNet RF protocol and is NOT subject to the same restrictions as far as I know. Given that there were beta testers in Australia, I expect it to be on sale there as well. probably just has a later launch date...

yeah so i read, thanks for pointing it out though.

Oh it will be later, have not doubts about that, we
re always much later....