just need a some good SMOOTH base when i watch DVD's/Blu-ray. i don't have these next gen receivers. just sick of my old crappy, fuzzy, good for nothing sony.

http://www.tsto.com/cgi-bin/TSTO.storefront/47b63e8e00131e102740ac10034105db/Product/View/2723


Not a lot out there in the $150 range.

You may want to look into one of the low priced subs available at Parts Express like the Dayton Sub-120. I've heard decent things about it, but never actually heard one.

http://www.partsexpress.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?&Partnumber=300-635

Parts Express is a good company to deal with.

wow thanks for the quick responses guys. i know there arent truely amazing subs for my price range, just looking for the best bang for the buck. these help, thanks!

As mojomike said, the Dayton 120 has a decent reputation, though I haven't heard one either. I'd also look at the Velodyne VX10. It's a very good performer for right around $150. I DO have experience with this sub, and I think it's a great budget sub. It's not incredibly powerful, but it does pack some punch and it's probably the best sub in its price range for music reproduction IMO.

If you can stand waiting and saving a bit more, the Bic H-100 should significantly outperform both the Dayton and the Velodyne.

MTX has a 12" at Circiut City for online price of 150 or so. It works, but don't expect the walls to move.

Bill

I've demoed the Dayton Sub 120, if your main criteria is output it's the clear choice, nothing will touch it in that area at your budget. That's the best thing I can say about it though, otherwise I found it to be extremely one noted, muddy and boomy mess no matter where I placed it or how I tried to calibrate it. If It'll be used strictly for ht then it might satisfy you, if music will be involved at all I'd look past it.

Imo the best all around sub at your budget is the Velodyne VX-10.

http://www.vanns.com/shop/servlet/item/features/539813201?v_c=ca

Costco has the Klipsch KSW-10(powered 225 watts) for $149 right now(VALID FEB 18 thru FEB 24). I know nothing about this Sub but I just remember seeing it and thought I would throw it in here. Maybe someone knows something about it. I hope this helps

If i were you i'd save up money and wait for a sub. You get what you pay for sometimes and i'd rather wait then be unhappy and want to upgrade later (which will cost you more money).

"good quality cheap"

You can NEVER have all 3.

Dayton Sub100 ~$125 (http://www.daytonaudio.com/audio/finished_home.html)

Velodyne VX10 ~$170 (http://www.velodyne.com/products/product.aspx?ID=8&sid=646y302e)

Polk PSW10 ~$108 (http://www.polkaudio.com/homeaudio/products/individual/subwoofers/psw10/)

1st two are kinda equal. The Polk is just more inexpensive.

All can be found on amzn.

"good quality cheap"

You can NEVER have all 3.

This doesn't help the OP at all.

A buddy of mine once had a Mirage 8 inch sub that for the money sounded pretty good. You can pick them up used on ebay for next to nothing. You might even be able to get something for $50-100.

I'd also look at some of the used Hsu subwoofers that were their lower end models.

As far as new gear goes some of the suggestions made so far are great. Dayton for output, Velodyne for accuracy would be 2 of your better picks at the price point.

Good luck!

I happen to own 2 dayton sub-120 subs and they sound great for movies. I do not use them for music so I can not comment on that. If you are going to use it for movies then I think the sub-120 is your best choice.

I think you all people are wasting time with your suggestions, no offense. $150 is not a sufficient budget for any sub worth buying, imho. Add another $100 and get the bic h100, at the least.

Have the Dayton sub (12) hidden in my upstairs great room, where I watch 90% of my TV. I can recommend it. Flexible crossover, adjustable gain. I too do not use it for music, but you could.

Works very well for $150. It really strengthened the bottom notes I was missing when I watched movies, whether HD from DirecTV, from HD-DVDS, or Blu-Rays. All of a sudden bass notes that I knew had been missing were there. Well worth $150.

Does it match the five $800+ subs in my dedicated theater (Hsu and TC-Sounds-based) for quality and output? No. Does it make watching TV upstairs a lot more enjoyable for $150? Absolutely. I no longer have to go downstairs to enjoy movies without thinking I am missing a ton of sound.

I think you all people are wasting time with your suggestions, no offense. $150 is not a sufficient budget for any sub worth buying, imho. Add another $100 and get the bic h100, at the least.


Nonsense. For a small room the subs that were suggested sound fine. I run two VX10's in a 1800^3 room and I get very good clean response down to 25hz. I was watching World Trade Center recently and when the towers fell, I thought my town house was coming down. It's also very linear and performs well with music. Don't be fooled by the cheap price of the VX10, it's a loss leader and a VRP1000 in disguise.;)


http://www.aoqc93.dsl.pipex.com/review.html



Ian :D

I think you all people are wasting time with your suggestions, no offense. $150 is not a sufficient budget for any sub worth buying, imho. Add another $100 and get the bic h100, at the least.

Would have to agree, at $150 you are only going to get cheap, though good and quality will have no part in the equation. If $150 is absolute max, save your pennies for awhile longer and go with the H100 as mentioned above. For another $100 over your budget you will get three times the sub you would at $150. At $250 shipped for the BIC h100 this would be the rock bottom you could say you were getting good, quality, and cheap if purchasing brand new.

Would have to agree, at $150 you are only going to get cheap, though good and quality will have no part in the equation. If $150 is absolute max, save your pennies for awhile longer and go with the H100 as mentioned above. For another $100 over your budget you will get three times the sub you would at $150. At $250 shipped for the BIC h100 this would be the rock bottom you could say you were getting good, quality, and cheap if purchasing brand new.

Yep its like saying i want a quality car for $1,000. GOOD LUCK!!!!!!!!

Would have to agree, at $150 you are only going to get cheap, though good and quality will have no part in the equation. If $150 is absolute max, save your pennies for awhile longer and go with the H100 as mentioned above. For another $100 over your budget you will get three times the sub you would at $150. At $250 shipped for the BIC h100 this would be the rock bottom you could say you were getting good, quality, and cheap if purchasing brand new.


I spend many years in the consumer electronics industry and you would be surprised how much higher priced crap there is out there and how much what you would call cheap, offers pretty good performance and quality. The Velodyne VRP 1000 has a street price of $249.00, nearly $100.00 more then the VX10 which is sold at or under cost, and is the same subwoofer except for the finish. The reason being is that certain lower cost items haven't any price restrictions as long as they are use to promote product lines and draw dealer traffic. Also, price doesn't always co-inside with performance. For years Henry Kloss was able to design speaker systems like AR3A and Advent 002 series that out performed speakers that cost almost twice as much. Today we are seeing the same thing from Internet companies like HSU and SVS due to smart engineering and sales that are factory direct. This is forcing many manufacturers to re-evaluate their bottom line and provide discount programs on certain items to stay competitive. Velodyne like many other companies have started to outsource some of their products, just like BIC, HSU, and Cambridge Sound Works (just to name a few) and some of these products or parts are now being made in China. You really need to understand how marketing, design and budget constraints come into play with all this. The H100 is a great buy and the best performer when it comes to HT in it's price range, but it doesn't necessarily offer better sound or build quality then a VX10 or the $199.00 X sub. What it does offer for the extra buck is more output and a very nice gloss finish. Is it three times the sub? I believe, when it comes to over all performance, that's really stretching it.

Ian

Based on my own research and some advice throughout the AVS forum and from personal friends, I ordered the Velodyne VX10 for my own home theater.

Now don't get me wrong, I would love to have the kind of money to purchase top of the line SVS or HSU systems, but I'm just a regular working class man with a small budget to build my home theater and maintain all my other expensive hobbies: golf, pool, computers, etc... So, I got the VX10 for about $160 shipped. I think I will be more than happy with the Velodyne sub, but my tastes aren't nearly as refined as most of the people with home theaters.

As soon as I get it hooked up and dialed in I will post my opinion of the Velodyne VX10. Not that it's worth much, but some in a similar situation may find it beneficial.

Based on my own research and some advice throughout the AVS forum and from personal friends, I ordered the Velodyne VX10 for my own home theater.

Now don't get me wrong, I would love to have the kind of money to purchase top of the line SVS or HSU systems, but I'm just a regular working class man with a small budget to build my home theater and maintain all my other expensive hobbies: golf, pool, computers, etc... So, I got the VX10 for about $160 shipped. I think I will be more than happy with the Velodyne sub, but my tastes aren't nearly as refined as most of the people with home theaters.

As soon as I get it hooked up and dialed in I will post my opinion of the Velodyne VX10. Not that it's worth much, but some in a similar situation may find it beneficial.

If you need set up tips, feel free pm me. ;)

Ian

Based on my own research and some advice throughout the AVS forum and from personal friends, I ordered the Velodyne VX10 for my own home theater.

Now don't get me wrong, I would love to have the kind of money to purchase top of the line SVS or HSU systems, but I'm just a regular working class man with a small budget to build my home theater and maintain all my other expensive hobbies: golf, pool, computers, etc... So, I got the VX10 for about $160 shipped. I think I will be more than happy with the Velodyne sub, but my tastes aren't nearly as refined as most of the people with home theaters.

As soon as I get it hooked up and dialed in I will post my opinion of the Velodyne VX10. Not that it's worth much, but some in a similar situation may find it beneficial.

I would like to know your results. I am looking at the H-100 for my small home theater setup. I really want alot of output and my room is fairly small so I think this should fit the bill.

Also, as a newb this site is incredible!!! I have done a TON of research on here in the last 8 months or so. Thanks for all of the great posts.

( i know, a newb that uses the search function???? wtf??)

I would like to know your results. I am looking at the H-100 for my small home theater setup. I really want alot of output and my room is fairly small so I think this should fit the bill.

Also, as a newb this site is incredible!!! I have done a TON of research on here in the last 8 months or so. Thanks for all of the great posts.

( i know, a newb that uses the search function???? wtf??)

I can't speak for the Velodyne but I got the H-100 for my bedroom setup a month or so back and it is impressive. Hard to imagine another sub with this much bang for the buck ;)

I have the VX10 in my smaller HT room and it does a really nice job even though it's not corner-loaded. If you have a small room with WAF considerations this sub will fit the bill.

I just purchased an infinity ps212 from harmanaudio on ebay for 150 plus shipping. Now this is a pretty nice sub for the price I paid. I am in the process of comparing it to my 2 dayton sub-120s. So far this sub performs pretty well.