View Full Version : Buying advice: Plasma versus 120 Hz LCD versus 60 Hz LCD
titaniummd 02-16-08, 04:15 AM Sorry for the long post but here is the information:
I have a den that measures 19'1" x 19'6" with 12 foot ceiling. I would like to mount the TV on the wall. I would like to see the TV from the kitchen and eat in kitchen which is about 23 feet away from the wall (on average).
The 37" TV that I used in my old Townhouse was just right for the Townhouse (5 feet from the screen) but seems 'swallowed' by the 12 foot wall now. I want to mount the TV on the wall about eye level.
The house has an open floor plan with large windows everywhere. Should that push me to LCD? I have seen some TVs with some 'antiglare' feature (plasmas), however.
The sofa is about 6-8 feet away from the wall. We also have a reclining char (along the side of the 3 paned glass door) and a loveseat (along the hallway).The back of the house faces the North (for the purpose of understanding the light).
I watch news, sports and TV shows on HDTV (digital cable) which is 720P and 1080i. I don't game with HD systems (like a PS3 or Xbox 360) but my daughter has a Nintendo Wii. I don't have a Blu Ray or HD DVD player since I am waiting on who will win (I will likely get a PS3 just for the BluRay player). I don't watch or rent too many movies.
I currently have a 37" Plasma that is too small for the room. I will move that to the master bedroom wall.
I have the following questions:
1 What size TV should I get? I was guessing about 47 to 50 (but leaning towards 50").
2 Should I do Plasma or LCD? I was leaning towards Plasma since I would like to see the picture from anywhere in the Family room or kitchen. ??Wider viewing angle??
3 Even if I don't have Bluray now, do I need to get a 1080P?
4 I was considering a Middle Tier TV (something for under $2500).
5 I liked the picture of the 120 Hz LCDs. I didn't see any sports when I was there so see its true capabilities; however. Will a plasma still outperform a 120 Hz LCD with regard to sports?
6 If I am watching on Standard definition (non HD broadcast), which picture will look better? Plasma or LCD?
I can upload a link to the floorplan of the house, if you think it would help.
Thanks in advance.
I shopped at Circuit City and liked the following for the PQ:
Sony 46" Bravia XBR-Series LCD HDTV
SON KDL46XBR4
Samsung 46" LCD HDTV
SAM LNT4671F
I liked the following for the price:
Panasonic 50" Plasma HDTV
PAN TH50PZ77U
titaniummd 02-20-08, 09:18 PM Wow! 309 views and not a suggestion?
Gib4500 02-20-08, 09:57 PM Phillips is next month supposed to come out with a new line of lcd tv's. There supposed to have ambilight (not sure what that is) but also 120Hz and 2ms response times. I'm not sure how the black levels compare to say a sony though. If i were to get a lcd now i would make sure it is 120Hz and if possible maybe 2ms response time coming out in these new panels. I have a 60Hz toshiba lcd i bought a year ago and on fast moving objects i do notice slight motion blur sometimes.
Also for sd content i believe it is better on a plasma. Sorry i'm not real familiar with plasma's though. It might be worth checking out these new line of lcd's coming out though.
I would definatly go with the biggest size you can get though. People sometimes wished they would have gone bigger. I'd go with a 1080P set now if it were me. The prices of blu-ray will continue to fall and it will give you all the resolution of a 1080I broadcast. This is just just some advise i'm definatly no expert though. Hopefully someone with more information will come on here and chime in. Good luck.
titaniummd 02-20-08, 10:34 PM Phillips is next month supposed to come out with a new line of lcd tv's. There supposed to have ambilight (not sure what that is) but also 120Hz and 2ms response times. I'm not sure how the black levels compare to say a sony though. If i were to get a lcd now i would make sure it is 120Hz and if possible maybe 2ms response time coming out in these new panels. I have a 60Hz toshiba lcd i bought a year ago and on fast moving objects i do notice slight motion blur sometimes.
Also for sd content i believe it is better on a plasma. Sorry i'm not real familiar with plasma's though. It might be worth checking out these new line of lcd's coming out though.
I would definatly go with the biggest size you can get though. People sometimes wished they would have gone bigger. I'd go with a 1080P set now if it were me. The prices of blu-ray will continue to fall and it will give you all the resolution of a 1080I broadcast. This is just just some advise i'm definatly no expert though. Hopefully someone with more information will come on here and chime in. Good luck.
Thanks for the reply.
My friend has an LG 1080P 47" and when we were watching sports, I noticed some pixelation with fast movement. I don't know the stats of his TV with regard to contrast ratio or speed but I believe it was 60hz. I can forsee the televisions become like computers did for us. From kilobytes of HD space to terabytes. Although seeing a Blueray on a Sony Bravo XBR 1080P 120 Hz was pretty amazing.
6SpeedTA95 02-21-08, 10:37 PM That phillips 2ms number is very suspect. They do not tell you if it is black to white to black, gray to white to gray or an even shorter black to white measurement. Without knowing their definition of response time i wouldn't put any faith in that number. Especially when the best LCD manufacturers (sony and samsung) have times that are double (which according to samsung is a black to white to black response time).
Thanks for the reply.
My friend has an LG 1080P 47" and when we were watching sports, I noticed some pixelation with fast movement. I don't know the stats of his TV with regard to contrast ratio or speed but I believe it was 60hz. I can forsee the televisions become like computers did for us. From kilobytes of HD space to terabytes. Although seeing a Blueray on a Sony Bravo XBR 1080P 120 Hz was pretty amazing.
I would not attribute the pixelation to the 60hz. That is more probably due to compression that his cable company does when they broadcast sports. 120hz is not in of itself better than 60hz since TV is only 60hz. Where it can be valuable is for 5:5 pulldown for movies. But I don't think any current 120hz LCD's offer 5:5 pulldown
Most of the displays video stores have up are showing off the motion enhancers that tend to be packaged with 120hz capability. They add a lot of artifacts but make movies look smoother like TV. After a while most people seem to like the motion enhancers turned off (so the movie will look more like a movie) which you can do in the user menu. I also don't motion enchacing does much for TV.
As for ghosting, the LCD's that combine 120hz with LED timing schemes seem to reduce ghosting the most. I think the Samsung 81 series does this but I can't remember the name of the feature.
I have the following questions:
1 What size TV should I get? I was guessing about 47 to 50 (but leaning towards 50").
2 Should I do Plasma or LCD? I was leaning towards Plasma since I would like to see the picture from anywhere in the Family room or kitchen. ??Wider viewing angle??
3 Even if I don't have Bluray now, do I need to get a 1080P?
4 I was considering a Middle Tier TV (something for under $2500).
5 I liked the picture of the 120 Hz LCDs. I didn't see any sports when I was there so see its true capabilities; however. Will a plasma still outperform a 120 Hz LCD with regard to sports?
6 If I am watching on Standard definition (non HD broadcast), which picture will look better? Plasma or LCD?
I can upload a link to the floorplan of the house, if you think it would help.
Thanks in advance.
I shopped at Circuit City and liked the following for the PQ:
Sony 46" Bravia XBR-Series LCD HDTV
SON KDL46XBR4
Samsung 46" LCD HDTV
SAM LNT4671F
I liked the following for the price:
Panasonic 50" Plasma HDTV
PAN TH50PZ77U
My "advice":
1. Since you want to be able see the TV from your kitchen, you would probably like the bigger size.
2. The viewing angles of LCD have improve but I still perfer plasma. The anti glare screens seem to really help. That being said the ambient light may turn you towards LCDs. You don't list movies as a major usage so MAYBE LCD is the better choice.
3. I would not say 1080P is necessary because you don't seem to sit close enough to see the difference. My brother-in-law has 96inch screen with a 720p projector. It looks damn good to me for Blu-ray because we sit far enough away. But if money is no object go for it.
4. You can find some pretty good TV for that price.
5. As I mentioned above, 120hz seems to only reduce ghosting when paired with that LED feature. But you can ask them to show sports for you at the store and compare yourself.
6. I think the brand of TV is more important than the Technology for SD. But the same with sports, ask the sales people to feed the TV a SD source at the store.
As for the TV you mention - they are all good choices. To really compare I would set each TV to the same picture mode (i.e. "Movie" or "Cinema", "Dynamic" or "Sport") and see how they compare with each mode active.
LarsYouPutz 02-26-08, 09:23 PM I was just in your exact situation and went with a 50" Samsung 1080p Plasma set. I was debating between this one and the Samsung 52" LCD 120hz 1080p. Went with the plasma for three reasons. 1 was the plasma had in my opinion a better picture. I did still see some motion blur on the LCD when watching football...dealbreaker. 2 was size. The 52" was just a smidge too wide for my situation. 3 was price. The plasma was considerably less expensive. This set replaced a 38" 1080i set and the difference is amazing. I did however pair it up with a new Blu-ray player.
I did look at the Panasonic that you are considering and the picture was dull compared to the Samsung, and yes that is just MY opinion. You must make that determination for yourself. Price-wise was just under $2000, comparable to the Panasonic.
I have two large windows to the rear of my seating positions, and glare was an issue with the old set, but has been drastically reduced with the new set. The majority of the glare is on the sets bezel. As far as viewing angle, it is really wide and it came with a swivel stand which is quite useful.
I don't think anyone can tell you which to buy as every situation is different, but I would recommend the 1080p. You may not hook up a Blu-ray today or tomorrow, but you'll probably end up with one, and I'm here to tell you it is amazing! I'm sure you'll enjoy either a plasma or a LCD
justingarcia947 02-26-08, 11:20 PM I have the following questions:
1 What size TV should I get? I was guessing about 47 to 50 (but leaning towards 50").
*1. If you go plasma a 50 or 58. If LCD go 52.
2 Should I do Plasma or LCD? I was leaning towards Plasma since I would like to see the picture from anywhere in the Family room or kitchen. ??Wider viewing angle??
*2. If your going off of viewing angles your average plasma has about 155 to 160 degrees and your LCD is a near 180 degrees,
3 Even if I don't have Bluray now, do I need to get a 1080P?
*3. I'd recommend going 1080P. If you get a Panasonic 1080p their tv's are rated at 100,000 half life hours while any other LCD or plasma is about 60,000And eventually everything is going to go BlueRay so if your tv is capable it wont be an issue.
4 I was considering a Middle Tier TV (something for under $2500).
*4. If you go plasma get the Panasonic TH50PZ77U or the TH50PZ700U you'll be looking at any from 2199 and 2599 depending on when and where you buy. They are both 1080p. the only diff. is that the 77U is an older model and has a anti-glare screen the 700U doesnt have the screen.
If LCD i'd highly recommend going with the Mitsubishi Diamond series. A particullarly good model is the MDE LT52144. Depending on where you get it you can get it for around 2599.
5 I liked the picture of the 120 Hz LCDs. I didn't see any sports when I was there so see its true capabilities; however. Will a plasma still outperform a 120 Hz LCD with regard to sports?
*5. With the 120 Hz LCD your looking at a 2-3 millisecond response time. and a plasma about 1 millisecond. Panasonics newer models are going to be at .5 milliseconds. so ya, plasma's will out perform any LCD you can find. if going LCD be careful, not all 129 Hz perform the same, the Samsung LNT5271F (and LNT5269F) and the Sharp version of this tech arent at the highest standards. i would only recommend going sony or mitsubishi. preferably mitsu b/c it has Plush 1080p.(read the next response to find out about Plush 1080p)
6 If I am watching on Standard definition (non HD broadcast), which picture will look better? Plasma or LCD?
*6.it all depends on which brand and model. I'd recomend going plasma just because of the faster response time, much higher black levels, and so many more colors.
The only LCD i would recommend over a plasma would be a Mitsubishi Diamond series tv. they are the only manufacturer who has a technology called Plush 1080P. When a 1080p tv recieves the 720p or 1080i signal its not going to give the clearest picture possible just b/c its made to perform with the higher reso. With the Pluch 1080p the Mitsu will recognize the signal, down grade the reso in the screen to the lower 720p or 1080i so you get a better picture. if you put a 1080p signal the reso will jump back up so, once again, you get the best possible picture. no other tv will do that.
justingarcia947 02-26-08, 11:30 PM one more thing
the LCD will look brighter just b/c of the simple fact that it uses light going through crystals to give you colors from the rainbow. with that the picture will look bright, the reds blues, greens, yellows, colors of the rainbow will stand out and be, in some cases, over powering. also with this you will have low balck levels and your range of earthy colors will be limited. if you get a LCD with X.C Color Technology this issue will be minimized but still there. the X.V. is a special coating on the crystal to give you about 25% more colors so that helps.
the plasma is going to the widest possible range of colors since it uses the combustion of natural gases. your darker scenes will look extremely better (for ex. shadowing under eyes, in cheek bones, ambient lighting in movies, shade from buildings, etc...) and give you a more true and realistic picture since it has more colors to work with. its going to be a little darker but have a much better picture
The only LEDs are Samsung 81F, which doesn't have 120 Hz.
brentsg 02-27-08, 06:32 PM The only LCD i would recommend over a plasma would be a Mitsubishi Diamond series tv. they are the only manufacturer who has a technology called Plush 1080P. When a 1080p tv recieves the 720p or 1080i signal its not going to give the clearest picture possible just b/c its made to perform with the higher reso. With the Pluch 1080p the Mitsu will recognize the signal, down grade the reso in the screen to the lower 720p or 1080i so you get a better picture. if you put a 1080p signal the reso will jump back up so, once again, you get the best possible picture. no other tv will do that.
I'm sorry but this makes no sense. Every fixed pixel display, this Mitsubishi included, has to scale non-native resolution source material to fit the display. Plush just happens to be the buzzword that Mitsu attaches to their scaling. There is nothing unique about this in the LCD or Plasma world.
Simple answer... plasma. They do everything better. They are faster, blacker in a more realistic way, higher bit depth (16 instead of 10 or 12 like lcd's) , and they are cheaper per inch. I would get the 50 inch 1080p model. Standard def looks "okay" at best on just about any set. Although some things shot well, like DOND, look good when stretched. I have sat 8 feet from a 50 inch 1080 panny and never saw any dots on hd. Calibrated correctly, it looks great.
titaniummd 03-14-08, 04:26 AM BWDinc Simple answer... plasma. They do everything better. They are faster, blacker in a more realistic way, higher bit depth (16 instead of 10 or 12 like lcd's) , and they are cheaper per inch. I would get the 50 inch 1080p model. Standard def looks "okay" at best on just about any set. Although some things shot well, like DOND, look good when stretched. I have sat 8 feet from a 50 inch 1080 panny and never saw any dots on hd. Calibrated correctly, it looks great.
I have decided on Plasma after looking at everything. A new Panasonic is coming out in April. I will probably buy in May (after I can assess the feedback/reviews).
2 Should I do Plasma or LCD? I was leaning towards Plasma since I would like to see the picture from anywhere in the Family room or kitchen. ??Wider viewing angle??
*2. If your going off of viewing angles your average plasma has about 155 to 160 degrees and your LCD is a near 180 degrees,
With respect to wider viewing angle, any plasma - even those that are 5+ yrs old, will beat any past or current LCD. Regardless of what the specs say, LCDs just do not have nearly as good of a picture off axis as a plasma.
This is because plasmas are an emissive technology, ie. they have pixels that emit light whereas LCDs have a backlight and a liquid crystal in front of the back light which acts as a shutter to allow light and certain colors through. Because of this, the picture on an LCD will dim or change color as you move off from 90 degrees.
Granted, current LCDs are MUCH improved and produce a fairly stable picture off axis. It just isn't better than a plasma regardless of what the specs indicate.
I'm not sure why people keep quoting those manufacturer claims of LCDs having 170+ degree viewing angles. It's simply not true. If viewing angle is important, plasmas win hands down, PERIOD. I own brand new 65" and 52" Sharp Aquos LCDs, and their viewing angles suck ass. If you're off-axis, forget it. I have a cheap 50" plasma in the living room (where viewing angle is very important), and it utterly slays my uber-expensive Sharp Aquos LCDs for brightness, contrast, and most of all, viewing angle. You don't realize how important viewing angle is . . . until, you don't have it.
Had I to do it all over again, I would've gone all plasmas. They're just brighter, prettier, and have way more real-world contrast than LCDs. Believe me, those "10,000:1" and "20,000:1" LCD contrast ratio claims are complete falsehoods. Their true contrast ratio is at least a 1000:1 less than a typical plasma display.
One thing I can say in LCDs' favor, is that they do seem to scale SD much better (at least mine do). SD on my Sharp LCDs looks surprisingly good, not just "okay," but pretty damned good. I can't even watch SD on my plasma it's so awful. I presume this mostly has to do with the quality of their built-in scalers, and not necessarily the differing display technologies. Also, if you want to use your LCD as a computer display, they rule. Super-sharp resolution, compared with plasmas displaying the same content, and excellent dynamic range, when displaying any computer-generated image. For XBOX360 or PS3 content, LCDs really do kick ass for some reason.
Oh, by the way, as far as I can tell, 120Hz is a marketing ruse. Yeah, it's "better," but not $X,000 better.
tts42572 03-22-08, 10:12 AM I've been debating the same issue...120HZ Sony or Sammy or a Panny plasma.
I think I've decided on waiting for a 2008 Panny plasma. Got my eye on a 50PZ800.
I watch mostly sports/movies and probably won't game on this specific TV. And it won't be used as a computer monitor.
So I think I'm leaning plasma....but I do like alot of the things LCD offers. And they do always look pretty good in the store.
But I sorta think plasma will be a better choice for a screen size 50 inches or larger. Seems like the motion lag is more noticable on the larger LCD's.
I do plan on getting an LCD TV for my basement at some point though for gaming.
I have decided on Plasma after looking at everything. A new Panasonic is coming out in April. I will probably buy in May (after I can assess the feedback/reviews).
Simple answer... plasma. They do everything better. They are faster, blacker in a more realistic way, higher bit depth (16 instead of 10 or 12 like lcd's) , and they are cheaper per inch. I would get the 50 inch 1080p model. Standard def looks "okay" at best on just about any set. Although some things shot well, like DOND, look good when stretched. I have sat 8 feet from a 50 inch 1080 panny and never saw any dots on hd. Calibrated correctly, it looks great.
I agree with the points you made above - plasmas are cheaper, have better black levels, less blurring, etc.
But, LCD's do have their advantages. Their can display full-bright scenes (snow, outdoor, bright sky shots, etc.) better than plasmas. Plasmas dim their output on these scenes to avoid frying their power supply units. LCD's also have matte finishes, which are better at reducing daytime glare. LCD's also don't have IR/burn-in problems that some plasmas seem to get.
I think the best advice is for people who watch mostly TV/sports during the daytime to get an LCD (bright scenes look bright even when the room is bright, less glare, no worries about TV station logos getting burned in), and for those who primarily like to watch movies at night to get a plasma (usually better picture, cheaper). Plasmas are suited for HT applications whereas LCD's are more like TV replacements.
justends 03-28-08, 01:52 PM I think the best advice is for people who watch mostly TV/sports during the daytime to get an LCD (bright scenes look bright even when the room is bright, less glare, no worries about TV station logos getting burned in), and for those who primarily like to watch movies at night to get a plasma (usually better picture, cheaper). Plasmas are suited for HT applications whereas LCD's are more like TV replacements.
With all due respect, are you a sports watcher? I am and I don't like watching players blur down the court/field. Plasma beats any LCD I've seen in the minimal blur department. That reason alone for this sports fan would trump pretty much any other feature. I'm not technical enough to be able to explain why that is. If someone would like to share that would be great.
With all due respect, are you a sports watcher? I am and I don't like watching players blur down the court/field. Plasma beats any LCD I've seen in the minimal blur department. That reason alone for this sports fan would trump pretty much any other feature. I'm not technical enough to be able to explain why that is. If someone would like to share that would be great.
Actually, I was a bit hesitant when I wrote that because of the motion blur issue. When I watch sports, it's usually in the daytime with the shades up and friends over. In that setting, most plasmas won't cut it. I agree LCD's have problems with motion blur, but it's really a pick-your-poison kind of situation at that point. Anyway, I've seen a couple of LCD's that have minimized motion blur (still noticeable, but watchable IMO). I would probably take those over a dimmer and more reflective plasma for sports.
tts42572 03-29-08, 10:14 AM Been debating the plasma vs LCD issue and basically decided I'd rather just shut the blinds if I'm going to be watching something "important" during the day to minmize any glare issues and have a superior picture all the time.....
At first in the stores I never really noticed LCD lag much....but once I started noticing it, it's becoming more apparent.....
I think it's more noticable for me when I look at the 52 inch LCD's.....don't really notice it as much on 40 inches and smaller LCD's.
Being that I want a 50 inch display....and that I'll often sit 7-8 feet away, I think a large LCD might cause me some problems. So leaning toward a plasma for now.
Although, a nice 37-40 inch LCD would be perfect for my basement which is where I usually game and also have some uncontrollable glare.
Xpert37 03-29-08, 11:42 PM What would you choose? Panny 46PZ85U or Samsung LNT4669 or Sony 46XBR4? Which one is the best band for the buck? I only watch sports, movies and cable TV and the family room has 3 windows, one facing west.
Thanks.
Wow! 309 views and not a suggestion?U started a good thread. I've really gained a lot from all the gr8 responses. Thx
...room has 3 windows, one facing west.Xpert, I have a W. sliding glass door. My old tv (crt) could not be seen at all when the sun was on the screen. I bought the 32 lcd Emprex on sale ($397) at Fry's laborday. It's only 1000:1 so I wondered how it would do in the sun. 1st time I noticed the sun on about 1/3 of the screen I turned it on & was shocked that I could no long tell which part of the screen was in the sun! On the old crt I would have seen nothing in that part of the screen.
titaniummd 04-15-08, 09:24 PM U started a good thread. I've really gained a lot from all the gr8 responses. Thx
We have 1 LCD and 1 Plasma in the house. I am happy with my 2005 Plasma.
Now, I am happy with my Panny 85U 50" Plasma.
Thanks for all of the discussion.
Lasercal 10-02-08, 07:26 PM How soon do you want this new TV, before the upcoming superbowl? because if you are simply looking for top of the line and want a large television Laser televisions are going to be available to the public in a little over a year with absolutely no streaking and the ability to produce ten times the amount of colors that a plasma or LCD can put out. they will be ranged around the same price as a 120hz LCD tv is today. Also The reason that plasmas have less blur and straking is because most ive seen are rated at 480hertz instead of 120. But when I compared their specifications their response times are the same at 2ms.
Just trying to warn you that if you buy the latest and greatest today it won't last very long as LCDs will eventually burn out and lasers do not.
s LCDs will eventually burn out and lasers do not.
uh... what :rolleyes:
ccotenj 10-02-08, 08:27 PM How soon do you want this new TV, before the upcoming superbowl? because if you are simply looking for top of the line and want a large television Laser televisions are going to be available to the public in a little over a year with absolutely no streaking and the ability to produce ten times the amount of colors that a plasma or LCD can put out. they will be ranged around the same price as a 120hz LCD tv is today. Also The reason that plasmas have less blur and straking is because most ive seen are rated at 480hertz instead of 120. But when I compared their specifications their response times are the same at 2ms.
Just trying to warn you that if you buy the latest and greatest today it won't last very long as LCDs will eventually burn out and lasers do not.
geez... so much misinformation in just 2 short paragraphs... :)
CruelInventions 10-03-08, 01:08 PM What is with (some) laser fans? Is it just me or has anyone else noticed a curious pattern in which these people post as if they are brainwashed cult members. For at least the last 2-3 years I've been reading posts on various boards where people who rarely post otherwise, chime in with the same "all hail the power of laser" mantra. And it's always 6-9 months away. very bizarre. :eek:
Johnsteph10 10-08-08, 11:54 PM How soon do you want this new TV, before the upcoming superbowl? because if you are simply looking for top of the line and want a large television Laser televisions are going to be available to the public in a little over a year with absolutely no streaking and the ability to produce ten times the amount of colors that a plasma or LCD can put out. they will be ranged around the same price as a 120hz LCD tv is today. Also The reason that plasmas have less blur and straking is because most ive seen are rated at 480hertz instead of 120. But when I compared their specifications their response times are the same at 2ms.
Just trying to warn you that if you buy the latest and greatest today it won't last very long as LCDs will eventually burn out and lasers do not.
What is with (some) laser fans? Is it just me or has anyone else noticed a curious pattern in which these people post as if they are brainwashed cult members. For at least the last 2-3 years I've been reading posts on various boards where people who rarely post otherwise, chime in with the same "all hail the power of laser" mantra. And it's always 6-9 months away. very bizarre. :eek:
I think that they must shine the laser beams in their eyes too frequently...you know, retinal burn...brain scarring...etc.
That's the only thing I can think of as to why something like that first paragraph can possibly exist.
brentsg 10-09-08, 11:27 AM How soon do you want this new TV, before the upcoming superbowl? because if you are simply looking for top of the line and want a large television Laser televisions are going to be available to the public in a little over a year with absolutely no streaking and the ability to produce ten times the amount of colors that a plasma or LCD can put out. they will be ranged around the same price as a 120hz LCD tv is today. Also The reason that plasmas have less blur and straking is because most ive seen are rated at 480hertz instead of 120. But when I compared their specifications their response times are the same at 2ms.
Just trying to warn you that if you buy the latest and greatest today it won't last very long as LCDs will eventually burn out and lasers do not.
My inside sources tell me that you won't even need a display. DirecTV will aim lasers at a wall in your home from outer space. You will need a screen or a clean wall, and a skylight that is kept clean but it will be worth it.
ccotenj 10-09-08, 11:32 AM My inside sources tell me that you won't even need a display. DirecTV will aim lasers at a wall in your home from outer space. You will need a screen or a clean wall, and a skylight that is kept clean but it will be worth it.
with the proper "medication", you won't even need that... :p
pnpgator 12-09-08, 02:50 PM I am looking at the Sharp Aquos 65inch LCD LC-65D64C and the LC-65SE94U. Is the difference between the 120Hz and 60Hz LCDs noticeable at 65inch screensize? The difference in price is about $1500. Also anyone know any other good large screen 60+ LCD or Plasma wall mountable TVs?
I was going to start a new thread on this but found this and thought I'd add on here. I was looking at the Panasonic TH50PZ85U plasma at my local best buy last night. I was ready to buy it but I'm having a hard time making the decision. I'm going to be using the tv for cable, blu ray, and Xbox 360 gaming. I liked the price point that they had it at but I'm still having a hard time making my decision. there will be some off angle viewing (from dining room to living room). also, the tv will be mounted on the wall. There are 2 full windows with small windows above those and one small window over our door. Most of our watching occurs at night anyway. The sun didn't seem to mess with our old 52" dlp that much so I am hoping it will be fine with the plasma. I don't really know what other questions to ask. From everything I read, overall plasma is superior to lcd except for the fact that plasma's have the possible burn in issue and lcd's are brighter for day time or bright room viewing. Another factor, my wife watches a ton of sd channels and could care less about HD. Is this plasma set going to be good with sd content? I really want to go and buy the tv tonight. Any recommendations or reasons I should go with one of the lcd's with 120 Hz?
rbhambha 02-18-09, 03:09 PM I was going to start a new thread on this but found this and thought I'd add on here. I was looking at the Panasonic TH50PZ85U plasma at my local best buy last night. I was ready to buy it but I'm having a hard time making the decision. I'm going to be using the tv for cable, blu ray, and Xbox 360 gaming. I liked the price point that they had it at but I'm still having a hard time making my decision. there will be some off angle viewing (from dining room to living room). also, the tv will be mounted on the wall. There are 2 full windows with small windows above those and one small window over our door. Most of our watching occurs at night anyway. The sun didn't seem to mess with our old 52" dlp that much so I am hoping it will be fine with the plasma. I don't really know what other questions to ask. From everything I read, overall plasma is superior to lcd except for the fact that plasma's have the possible burn in issue and lcd's are brighter for day time or bright room viewing. Another factor, my wife watches a ton of sd channels and could care less about HD. Is this plasma set going to be good with sd content? I really want to go and buy the tv tonight. Any recommendations or reasons I should go with one of the lcd's with 120 Hz?
#1 - Save some money and buy the set online. You can find one pretty cheap at a lot of online stores, google it. Shipping is usually pretty fast. I like NewEgg.com
#2 - Regarding burn in, check out the master break-in/burn-in FAQ sticky thread at the top of the plasma forum. Follow these steps and you will not have any problems with burn in.
#3 - Can't answer any of the other questions, but i'm sure someone else will! :)
#1 - Save some money and buy the set online. You can find one pretty cheap at a lot of online stores, google it. Shipping is usually pretty fast. I like NewEgg.com
#2 - Regarding burn in, check out the master break-in/burn-in FAQ sticky thread at the top of the plasma forum. Follow these steps and you will not have any problems with burn in.
#3 - Can't answer any of the other questions, but i'm sure someone else will! :)
Thanks for the reply. No need to buy online. I talked them down at best buy to the price that I found on New Egg. I will definitely go back and read the burn in FAQ sticky.
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