Hey guys, is there any CECB qualified box out there that can output HD through component? I have an HDTV compatible TV that is 720p but does not have an ATSC tuner. Any help?

Nope. Only SD for the CECB boxes.

Try a Samsung DTB-H260F or older ATSC HD model from e-bay if you want cheap.

Nope. Only SD for the CECB boxes.

Try a Samsung DTB-H260F or older ATSC HD model from e-bay if you want cheap.

Does the CECB program only certify SD boxes to be purchased with the coupons? Or do the manufactures just choose to leave out the good features for price?

Yes to the first question.

The government sets the criteria for them. Remember the purpose of the taxpayer subsidized boxes is to provide network broadcasts to users whose current source of TV is SD OTA NTSC broadcasts. Therefore the boxes are only allowed to output SD NTSC video from the digital channels they receive

utlonghorns4 - Have you done ANY research at all on this ?!!?! Your question makes it clear that you haven't - otherwise, you would have known better than to even ask the question.

The CECBs are to enable older, NTSC TVs be able to receive the ATSC signals. To that end they have a very limited set of outputs (RF modulator on channel 3/4, Composite video, they are permited S-Video, stereo analog outputs, and optionally digital audio output). Find out more by searching https://www.dtv2009.gov/ The particular requirements are here http://www.ntia.doc.gov/ntiahome/frnotices/2007/DTVFinalRule_2e.htm

easy now--

utlonghorns4 you can find what you're looking for <$100.

Ecost has a Coby ASTC HD set top tuner with component out. It isn't Pioneer Elite or coupon eligible, but it beats buying a new TV.

It sure isn't cost, because you can get component output (albeit 480p) on a $20 DVD player.

I'd like it if the coupons applied to any ATSC receiver (maybe even the ones built into TV's), but no; the CECB's are required to be crippled. I guess it's a backdoor way of means-testing the coupons -- so no one who could afford a better box would actually want a CECB.

The particular requirements are here http://www.ntia.doc.gov/ntiahome/frnotices/2007/DTVFinalRule_2e.htm

Yes that link explains why they "limit" the CECB's to standard def/analog output. IMHO NTIA's decision to limit outputs is bullsh!t because many people own "HD Ready" TV's which only contain an analog/NTSC tuner. Why limit the resolution when the chipset is capable full HD output? Stupid..

utlonghorns4 - Have you done ANY research at all on this ?!!?! Your question makes it clear that you haven't - otherwise, you would have known better than to even ask the question.

There seems to be a lot of newbies lately who would rather post first before reading to find the answer. Especially in regards to these $50 NTIA-CECB's that are expected to be the be-all end-all HD receiver for as little as $10 after coupon. It's a friggin gubmint subsidy box.. folks should stop expecting it to be the top of the line HD receiver it isn't and is not going to be..

I favor new members be required to read XX number of posts before being allowed to post in a
particular forum.

There seems to be a lot of newbies lately who would rather post first before reading to find the answer. Especially in regards to these $50 NTIA-CECB's that are expected to be the be-all end-all HD receiver for as little as $10 after coupon. It's a friggin gubmint subsidy box.. folks should stop expecting it to be the top of the line HD receiver it isn't and is not going to be..

I favor new members be required to read XX number of posts before being allowed to post in a
particular forum.

I read posts for two months be for becoming a member, only joining when I felt the need to post, how would you factor that?

I read posts for two months be for becoming a member, only joining when I felt the need to post, how would you factor that?

And I'm sure your posts reflect that.:)

in practice, the way I have seen such questions handled is to ignore them. ok, it's passive aggressive. but usually it works and we avoid flame wars.

eric

I guess it's a backdoor way of means-testing the coupons -- so no one who could afford a better box would actually want a CECB.

No need to guess that is exactly the point! If someone can afford a new TV or better box the government doesn't want to subsidize it.

I'd like it if the coupons applied to any ATSC receiver (maybe even the ones built into TV's), but no; the CECB's are required to be crippled. I guess it's a backdoor way of means-testing the coupons -- so no one who could afford a better box would actually want a CECB.
Well, YES! Access to TV is not in the Constitution, so the program is not designed to give everyone some TV cheese. The Govt wants the transition to go forward, but they don't want to leave anyone allegedly "unserved," (or un-re-elected!) so they came up with this idea to help the folks that need it.

Not everyone needs a CECB, so they made the coupons for only the basic model tuner. I haven't checked in a long time to see how the program is doing, but once the first group of coupons runs out, you will have to "certify" that you don't have cable, sat, or other means to get OTA TV. You can check your zip code to see how many coupons have been requested in your neighborhood. Do they all really need them? I'd love to get a sense of how many people are getting coupons they don't need (or getting more than they should be) and are so greedy that they want to get all that they can from the Govt. ("I'm paying for it anyway!") Please...

Full disclosure: I don't need a coupon, but ordered one to try it out with a smart antenna. I would venture to say that the majority of the people on this forum are just curious about the program, don't really need them, but still took the max. Fewer still are greedy and have all their friends' coupons or fudged their addresses. (Some people are just petty crooks...)

Yes that link explains why they "limit" the CECB's to standard def/analog output. IMHO NTIA's decision to limit outputs is bullsh!t because many people own "HD Ready" TV's which only contain an analog/NTSC tuner. Why limit the resolution when the chipset is capable full HD output? Stupid..Another one who doesn't get it. These vouchers are food stamps for TV. They are supposed to be targeted at people with limited means who have old TVs and no resources to upgrade. If you have the means to buy a large format HD-ready TV, you have the means to buy the HD tuner to go with it -- the taxpayers should not be subsidizing you.

The mods really ought to delete some of these threads, especially the ones by the guys getting six coupons - lest some of us start bursting brain aneurysms or something. One of these days all he!! is gonna break loose - it's come close to that already a couple of times.

Since when did HDTV start becoming a "basic necessity of life"? Jeez.

"The Entitlement Generation" indeed.