Matt L
02-17-08, 11:13 PM
So what is the Verdict? How bad was the editing? I haven't had a chance to watch it yet, wondering if I should or just rent the DVDs.
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View Full Version : Dexter on CBS Matt L 02-17-08, 11:13 PM So what is the Verdict? How bad was the editing? I haven't had a chance to watch it yet, wondering if I should or just rent the DVDs. tkmedia2 02-18-08, 01:40 AM the editing was freaking!:D rcman2 02-18-08, 01:49 AM Those motherlovers at CBS did what they felt they had to do for broadcast. I was done after 5min:mad: joed32 02-18-08, 09:53 AM I think they did the best they could. I was afraid it would be a lot worse than it was. Ladd 02-18-08, 08:57 PM So should I watch the CBS version or never watch the show at all (I probably wouldn't go to the video store to rent the DVDs). Djoel 02-18-08, 10:05 PM Real shame! Djoel nickdawg 02-18-08, 10:17 PM I'd watch the CBS version. From what I've heard on the main Dexter forum, most of the original show is in tact. Plus, IT'S FREE! :D:D Al Shing 02-18-08, 10:58 PM I would just as soon not see CBS do to Dexter what the Ice Truck Killer did to his victims. kb7oeb 02-19-08, 01:17 AM I didn't think it was too bad, Doakes' mouth didn't look right during the edits. It was no worse than any of the edited movies played on broadcast and basic cable. pappy97 02-19-08, 02:46 AM So should I watch the CBS version or never watch the show at all (I probably wouldn't go to the video store to rent the DVDs). Why wouldn't you rent it? I always suggest people see Dexter on DVD rather than the CBS edited version. Raln 02-19-08, 05:04 AM The first episode really wasn't too bad on CBS. The language edits were only truly cringe worthy on a couple occasions this episode. They actually left a thing or two in that I thought for sure would be heavily edited or cut out. But really, this episode was fairly tame compared to what's ahead. It will get worse, as the show progresses, where great moments in the series are ruined and people get turned off by the silliness of the language edits. It's still not Dexter as it was intended to be seen, so I'll continue to recommend that people rent, buy or borrow the DVDs. All in all though, I wasn't too bothered by CBS' treatment of the first episode. mtiffee 02-19-08, 05:02 PM Well apparently the opening titles will not be shown on CBS. For those of you who haven't seen it, here it is: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Si6YLWRS9A It's a shame, one of the best opening titles ever. Youtube doesn't do it justice, you really should see it in HD with the surround sound. My sub shakes the living room with the bass. Distorted 02-19-08, 05:12 PM I never saw this on Showtime, so CBS was my initiation. I must be getting old or something, because my wife and I found the concept revolting. Are we the only ones. To us, that this show found its way to broadcast TV even with the dirth of material around because of the strike, much less any awards it has received, as a clear indication of the descernable decadence in American society. I felt unclean after watching the first (and last for us) show. AlanSaysYo 02-19-08, 05:30 PM I never saw this on Showtime, so CBS was my initiation. I must be getting old or something, because my wife and I found the concept revolting. Are we the only ones. To us, that this show found its way to broadcast TV even with the dirth of material around because of the strike, much less any awards it has received, as a clear indication of the descernable decadence in American society. I felt unclean after watching the first (and last for us) show. Perhaps you are getting old. The old rule of "don't watch if you don't like" applies here. Personally, I find most network reality shows to be far more troubling than the fictional Dexter. Big thanks goes out to my HR20 for having an "unexpected error" and refusing to record this show even though it managed to record everything else just fine that night. :mad: Rikimaru 02-19-08, 05:38 PM Well apparently the opening titles will not be shown on CBS. For those of you who haven't seen it, here it is: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Si6YLWRS9A It's a shame, one of the best opening titles ever. Youtube doesn't do it justice, you really should see it in HD with the surround sound. My sub shakes the living room with the bass. WTF? Why aren't they airing the opening on CBS? tkmedia2 02-19-08, 06:32 PM WTF? Why aren't they airing the opening on CBS? most likely it's the length. Since Dexter is premium cable it is not a 43 min or so show. So its cut down as much as possible. Timpanogos 02-19-08, 07:58 PM It tanked, coming in third for its time slot. We watched for a few minutes and were also revolted. Products want to tie their "brands" to this show by purchasing advertising time? There is a reason that most people don't subscribe to Showtime, and its not a money factor. Decadence indeed. Rikimaru 02-19-08, 08:27 PM most likely it's the length. Since Dexter is premium cable it is not a 43 min or so show. So its cut down as much as possible. That makes sense. I Netflixed Dexter so I guess I neglected the fact that it has a longer run time than hour long network shows. Robert Clark 02-19-08, 10:21 PM It tanked, coming in third for its time slot. We watched for a few minutes and were also revolted. Products want to tie their "brands" to this show by purchasing advertising time? There is a reason that most people don't subscribe to Showtime, and its not a money factor. Decadence indeed. I think "tanked" is wishful thinking on your part. It finished sightly behind a new episode of "Brothers and Sisters". Certainly with quality shows like Dexter, Showtime is doing just fine... Offline 02-20-08, 12:30 AM What timeslot was this showing on CBS? I find it interesting that the language would be cut if it were after 8:30pm but I guess I am not used to the way your networks work. It is actually interesting that we had Californication uncut (besides one scene after one group complained) at a 9:30pm slow. US shows always seem tame in comparison - why is this? Sure, you wouldn't want this in an early time but after 8:30pm, surely a network can play Adult material with the proper ratings indicated at the start. Can't they? tkmedia2 02-20-08, 12:43 AM I think the ratings are darn good. Especially for a new concept show that is already available on DVD uncut. It's two season old. I was expecting much worse viewership. chibul 02-20-08, 12:48 AM People, the opening is NOT cut. It was never in the pilot on Showtime, either. And to the people who call this "revolting" - :rolleyes: It's one of the most original, thought-provoking shows on television. What timeslot was this showing on CBS? I find it interesting that the language would be cut if it were after 8:30pm but I guess I am not used to the way your networks work. It is actually interesting that we had Californication uncut (besides one scene after one group complained) at a 9:30pm slow. US shows always seem tame in comparison - why is this? Sure, you wouldn't want this in an early time but after 8:30pm, surely a network can play Adult material with the proper ratings indicated at the start. Can't they? Nope. nickdawg 02-20-08, 01:09 AM I've only seen the one episode and I second that it's original and thought provoking. A really smart show with an interesting plot, not just some "reality" fluff. On a rant, it's people like YOU(you know who you are) that make TV suck. If you find the show "revolting", don't watch!! Is it that hard to change the channel? I wonder how many of the conservative God-freak crowd will be b!tch!ng to CBS over this show, just like the 04 Superbowl?? Already I see the fascist scum at the Parents Television Council have mentioned "Dexter". Because everything is TV's fault:sarcastic: http://www.parentstv.org/PTC/publications/release/2008/0130.asp I believe the show was rated TV-14(it should have been TV-MA with more of the original show in tact). If you read your damn cable box instructions and set up parental controls, this show would be blocked. chibul 02-20-08, 01:36 AM Exactly. So sick of hearing people whine about what's on TV...don't watch! If you're a parent, don't let your children watch! IMO, there's too MUCH censorship in this country. Ph8te 02-20-08, 02:43 AM Exactly. So sick of hearing people whine about what's on TV...don't watch! If you're a parent, don't let your children watch! IMO, there's too MUCH censorship in this country. Amen !!! :) , people you know the premise of the show, if you dont like it then dont watch. I mean what do you expect a show about a serial killer to be like:confused: Just like with the radio if you dont want to watch it or dont want your kids to watch it block the show, monitor the shows your kids watch, or just change the channel. I only got to see bits and pieces and I know Ill have to stick to Showtime in HD for this show, it just didnt have the same "feel". Carl Sims 02-20-08, 11:08 AM Are the episodes currently being shown on CBS the same as the ones on the DVD set? Distorted 02-21-08, 12:31 AM Get your panties out of a wad, and notice that no one in this thread mentioned anything like censoring the revolting show. You enjoy your vices, and I will enjoy mine, but I reserve the right to critque yours anytime I wish. That is what this forum is about, isn't? walk72 02-21-08, 02:35 AM Those motherlovers at CBS did what they felt they had to do for broadcast. I was done after 5min:mad: I agree chibul 02-21-08, 03:11 AM My point is that there's zero that's "revolting" about it - it's one of the most original and thought-provoking shows I've ever seen. And yet the "goody-goodys" have to come in and try to rain on everyone's parade. joed32 02-21-08, 11:43 AM Are the episodes currently being shown on CBS the same as the ones on the DVD set? Yes they are. Timpanogos 02-21-08, 12:22 PM Calm down dudes and dudettes! There is no such thing as a bad point of view. Everyone is entitled to one. If points of view didn't differ, it would be a pretty gray colored world right out of the classic 1984 Apple computer commercial. Please tell me you were alive then so you know what I am talking about... and why do people always think that the Bible thumpers are behind everything if someone feels that something is revolting or inappropriate for the venue or time slot in which it is being shown? Isn't a politically liberal guy with kids and some experience entitled to a point of view without name calling and smears? The Dexter writers are sick, the network suits are sick, and the advertisers that sponsor this sad commentary on the human experience are sick. But I am glad that some of you find some entertainment value in it. Apparently, you are in the minority. www.medialifemagazine.com/artman2/publish/Television_44/Scratch_off_the_imported_cable_shows.asp Carl Sims 02-21-08, 12:23 PM Yes they are. Thanks. I think that I am going to get the DVDs, from other posts it seems like a lot is being edited out to make CBS happy. Though I did get a good chuckle hearing "motherlovers".. audiomagnate 02-21-08, 02:02 PM So this is just edited reruns of the old Showtime shows? I don't get it. Is this because of the writer's strike? chibul 02-21-08, 02:05 PM Calm down dudes and dudettes! There is no such thing as a bad point of view. Everyone is entitled to one. If points of view didn't differ, it would be a pretty gray colored world right out of the classic 1984 Apple computer commercial. Please tell me you were alive then so you know what I am talking about... and why do people always think that the Bible thumpers are behind everything if someone feels that something is revolting or inappropriate for the venue or time slot in which it is being shown? Isn't a politically liberal guy with kids and some experience entitled to a point of view without name calling and smears? The Dexter writers are sick, the network suits are sick, and the advertisers that sponsor this sad commentary on the human experience are sick. But I am glad that some of you find some entertainment value in it. Apparently, you are in the minority. www.medialifemagazine.com/artman2/publish/Television_44/Scratch_off_the_imported_cable_shows.asp We're definitely not in the minority. But whatever helps you sleep at night. Definitely one of the most original/thought-provoking/creative shows ever. audiomixer 02-21-08, 02:07 PM I never saw this on Showtime, so CBS was my initiation. I must be getting old or something, because my wife and I found the concept revolting. Are we the only ones. To us, that this show found its way to broadcast TV even with the dirth of material around because of the strike, much less any awards it has received, as a clear indication of the descernable decadence in American society. I felt unclean after watching the first (and last for us) show. Too bad for you...Better go wash up! :rolleyes: dad1153 02-21-08, 02:24 PM So this is just edited reruns of the old Showtime shows? I don't get it. Is this because of the writer's strike? Correct. With scripted shows in repeats and hours of primetime to fill (and a limited amount of reality shows to plug in holes) CBS brought "Dexter" over to broadcast TV as an experiment to see (a) how well it'd do and (b) to fill a time slot until the writer's strike ended. With the strike over its up to viewers that sampled "Dexter" last Sunday whether the show will stay on CBS (via edited repeats) or remain a DVD/Showtime guilty pleasure. It will take at least a couple of months for scripted dramas to get back on track (witing/shooting/editing these hour-long shows takes time) so "Dexter" is guaranteed to run at least for another four-six weeks, if ratings hold up. BlackNGold 02-21-08, 02:45 PM Everyone is entitled to their opinion...that is true...and to be honest, when I first heard of Dexter, I wasn't very interested. But a friend turned me on to the show, and it is without a doubt one of the best written and thought provoking shows currently on television. The fact that the writers of the show can cause the viewer to empathize with the main character, who is a serial killer, to me is amazing. He is, after all, a human being like the rest of us. A flawed (seriously flawed) human being who is trying to make sense of his world the best way he knows how. You may be turned off by the subject matter of the show, and that is your right. Others may be turned off by shows about mobsters, homosexual funeral home owners, lesbians, or homeless folks living on a mysterious island, but that doesn't mean the shows aren't well written and some of the best tv has to offer. That also doesn't mean the people that watch them/write them/advertise on them are sick. BlackNGold 02-21-08, 02:49 PM Also, in regards to quality of this show: Awards Wins 2006 AFI Awards TV Program of the Year Official Selection IGN Best New Show IGN Best Actor Michael C. Hall IGN Best Villain The Ice Truck Killer IGN Best Character Dexter Morgan Satellite Awards Outstanding Actress in a Supporting Role in a Series Julie Benz 2007 Television Critics Association Individual Achievement in Drama Michael C. Hall Saturn Awards Best Actor in a Television Program Michael C. Hall Emmy Outstanding Main Title Design Emmy Outstanding Single-Camera Picture Editing for a Drama Series Satellite Awards Outstanding Actor in a Supporting Role in a Series David Zayas Satellite Awards Outstanding Actor in a Series, Drama Michael C. Hall Satellite Awards Outstanding Television Series, Drama IGN - Best Storyline IGN - Best Television Program Nominations 2006 IGN Best Television Program Satellite Awards Outstanding Actor in a Series, Drama Michael C. Hall Satellite Awards Outstanding Television Series, Drama Golden Globe Nomination for Best Performance by an Actor in a Television Series Drama Michael C. Hall 2007 SAG Male Actor in a Drama Series Michael C. Hall Emmy Outstanding Single-Camera Picture Editing, Drama Emmy Outstanding Original Main Title Theme Music Television Critics Association New Program of the Year Saturn Awards Best Supporting Actor in a Television Program James Remar Saturn Awards Best Supporting Actress in a Television Program Jennifer Carpenter Saturn Awards Best Syndicated/Cable Television Series WGA - Episodic Drama - any length - one airing time Dark Defender WGA Award - Best Dramatic Series[28][29][30] 2007 Golden Globe Award Nomination for Best Performance by an Actor in a Television Series Drama Michael C. Hall[31] mtiffee 02-22-08, 10:16 AM People, the opening is NOT cut. It was never in the pilot on Showtime, either. (update: no it's not- see next post) Yes it is. Those that have seen episodes besides the pilot episode report the other shows air just like the pilot, with a 5 second "DEXTER" title card. Are the episodes currently being shown on CBS the same as the ones on the DVD set? No they're not. In addition to being edited for language and graphic images, other plot lines and side stories are being cut or edited down. I posted a link to an article about this in the Dexter on Sho forum. There are some minor spoilers, which is why I didn't post here. If you want the full experience, rent the DVD's. Even better, buy them. mtiffee 02-25-08, 07:40 AM An update on the article I posted last week. I emailed the author to confirm his claim of no opening titles. He said he watched episodes one and two and he knew about the pilot not airing the opening titles. When the second didn't air them either he assumed they cut it from the season. Well he's written a new article after talking to the producers of Dexter and writes: "And thankfully, Ms. Colleton confirmed that the Emmy Award-winning opening titles, while cut from the second episode, will reappear for the third. She said the reason the titles got the ax from the second episode (the opening title didn’t appear in the first episode, even on Showtime) was in order to give viewers more time to get introduced to the characters." Also in the article, a slightly more precise time for season three: "“Dexter” on Showtime is readying its third season, where it’s scheduled to begin airing in early October." The new article also talks about the challenges of re-tooling a show like Dexter for OTA. http://www.tvweek.com/blogs/blink/2008/02/update_two_things_certain_for.php PS- I didn't link to an article last week in this thread because of mild spoilers in the article. I linked it in the other Dexter on Sho thread. The update article contains no spoilers. Gary McCoy 03-13-08, 03:48 PM Speaking for myself, I was hooked on Dexter by the time CBS broadcast the second episode. Then I rented the entire first season of Dexter from NetFlix. Now I'm in the middle of the first Jeff Lindsey crime novel Darkly Dreaming Dexter (2004). Let me tell you folks, the Showtime series is a pale imitation of the book, although there is a remarkable amount of prose taken straight from the page into the monologues narrated by Dexter in many scenes. It's just that Showtime left out so much of the rich detail and plot intricacies. Yeah I know how different the printed and filmed media are. Still, it's another case of the book being much much better than the show. I will rent Season 2 when the DVDs are released. Untill then, these are the books: Darkly Dreaming Dexter (2004) Dearly Devoted Dexter (2005) Dexter in the Dark (2007) chadh 03-13-08, 04:05 PM Speaking for myself, I was hooked on Dexter by the time CBS broadcast the second episode. Then I rented the entire first season of Dexter from NetFlix. Now I'm in the middle of the first Jeff Lindsey crime novel Darkly Dreaming Dexter (2004). Let me tell you folks, the Showtime series is a pale imitation of the book, although there is a remarkable amount of prose taken straight from the page into the monologues narrated by Dexter in many scenes. It's just that Showtime left out so much of the rich detail and plot intricacies. Yeah I know how different the printed and filmed media are. Still, it's another case of the book being much much better than the show. I will rent Season 2 when the DVDs are released. Untill then, these are the books: Darkly Dreaming Dexter (2004) Dearly Devoted Dexter (2005) Dexter in the Dark (2007) Wait until you get to the second and third books.... Chad R11 03-13-08, 08:05 PM I've been watching Dexter on CBS as well and I have to say I've been looking forward to each new ep. It is interesting and well done. If you're the kind of person who'd rather stick their head in the sand and pretend life is all a sunny day it's clearly not for you. But if you're the kind that accepts that the world is made of up of all sorts (including some very bizarre and twisted minds/thought processes), it makes for some very interesting perspectives to examine. Dexter is good TV. ron Capek 03-13-08, 08:06 PM I never saw this on Showtime, so CBS was my initiation. I must be getting old or something, because my wife and I found the concept revolting. Are we the only ones. To us, that this show found its way to broadcast TV even with the dirth of material around because of the strike, much less any awards it has received, as a clear indication of the descernable decadence in American society. I felt unclean after watching the first (and last for us) show. It's wrong to think that decadence in art is a moralistic concept. It's an aesthetic one, "decadent" art can be just as worthwhile and meaningful as "classical" art. But anyways, you can't even describe Dexter as decadent, if you want to use the term correctly. Decadence in art is a situation where the concerns of the whole have succumbed to the concerns of the parts. So like in literature, the French post-naturalists of the mid-19th century, or Joyce for example, could be called decadent. Or the impressionists in painting. But as for Dexter, it's just a well done crime thriller with a twist. It's no more decadent than, say, Law and Order. Maybe even less decadent, because while Law and Order is mostly an episodic show, Dexter is fully serialized, and so just goes that much further in emphasizing the whole over the parts. Gary McCoy 03-14-08, 02:43 PM Crime thriller? I beg to differ - Dexter is the darkest of Comedies. Think about it. Dexter himself is a monster, wrapped in normalcy. Yet he is a better citizen, does more good, and has more fun than the nominally "Normal" people around him. He's the perfect neighbor, brother, coworker, boyfriend, and babysitter. He's good at his job and tries very hard to preserve and improve his relationships with the bizarre alien "Humans" he lives among. How ironic that he is a bloodthirsty murdering serial killer, and such a nice guy. dad1153 03-14-08, 02:58 PM Crime thriller? I beg to differ - Dexter is the darkest of Comedies. Agree, the writing on this show and the weird premise of hearing a serial killer's inner monologue allows for some dark, mean, black comedy to sneak up on the viewer and make him/her roll from laughter. The CBS airing is the fifth time I'm watching Season 1 of "Dexter" (twice on Showtime HD, once on SD On Demand and once with the DVD Box Set) and even in censored form some of the humor comes through. Part of it is the tone of voice and slight facial expressions Michael C. Hall uses when saying something (to himself or to those around him) that should be serious, but the way it comes across is just gut-busting funny if you're in the mood to laugh at sickness. I know I am, for the fifth time in two years. mtiffee 03-14-08, 03:14 PM thrill·er (thrĭl'ər) n. One that thrills, especially a sensational or suspenseful book, story, play, or movie. I'd say Dexter is a thriller with a lot of comedy. That's the great thing about this show. It's so many things. There are some shows that I watch because I like the actors, or the writing, or the way it's shot. Few shows bring it all together. Finally a great show with good acting, writing, photography, and music (I love the soundtrack). Capek 03-15-08, 01:55 AM Crime thriller? I beg to differ - Dexter is the darkest of Comedies. Think about it. Dexter himself is a monster, wrapped in normalcy. Yet he is a better citizen, does more good, and has more fun than the nominally "Normal" people around him. He's the perfect neighbor, brother, coworker, boyfriend, and babysitter. He's good at his job and tries very hard to preserve and improve his relationships with the bizarre alien "Humans" he lives among. How ironic that he is a bloodthirsty murdering serial killer, and such a nice guy. That is the part of my post you chose to address?... Sure, it's a dark comedy, and a crime thriller, and a detective show etc etc etc... You can describe it's various aspects any number of ways, and one description doesn't negate any of the others. Timpanogos 03-17-08, 01:21 PM Overnights from Sunday, March 16: "ABC completed the nightly sweep at 10 p.m. with a 2.9 for “Here Come the Newlyweds,” with NBC second with a 2.2 for a repeat of “Law & Order: Special Victims Unit.” CBS was third with a 1.8 for “Dexter” and Univision fourth with a 0.7 for the second half of its “Telenovela” special. -From medialifemagazine.com Regardless of the awards that "Dexter" reaped from insiders in the business, the vast majority of mainstream television viewers reject the program, and are not tuning in. Advertisers are also bailing. If you owned a company and it was your money, would you want your good name and products associated with "Dexter"? Cable and satellite can get away with programing such as this because they are narrowcasters. There is a market, though small, for almost anything. No such luck with broadcasters. skyehill 03-17-08, 01:34 PM Calm down dudes and dudettes! There is no such thing as a bad point of view. Everyone is entitled to one. If points of view didn't differ, it would be a pretty gray colored world right out of the classic 1984 Apple computer commercial. Please tell me you were alive then so you know what I am talking about... and why do people always think that the Bible thumpers are behind everything if someone feels that something is revolting or inappropriate for the venue or time slot in which it is being shown? Isn't a politically liberal guy with kids and some experience entitled to a point of view without name calling and smears? The Dexter writers are sick, the network suits are sick, and the advertisers that sponsor this sad commentary on the human experience are sick. But I am glad that some of you find some entertainment value in it. Apparently, you are in the minority. www.medialifemagazine.com/artman2/publish/Television_44/Scratch_off_the_imported_cable_shows.asp Hate to break it to you, but the majority never watches these shows. So no matter what you're liking, you're in the minority. And for the record, whatever junk you personally like to watch, I find sick. Yep. It's true. I'm making a broadbased, uninformed, completely moronic comment on your viewing habits. archiguy 03-17-08, 01:43 PM 'Dexter' is not the type of show that's going to appeal to the mainstream, although the various CSI's, Criminal Minds, etc. are at least as graphic in their subject matter, if not more so. CBS has already mined that territory to within an inch of its life. The American public seems to have an endless appetite for crime procedurals, and that's basically what Dexter is. It's just more complex and thought provoking than the typical 42 minute formulaic network procedural. That immediately puts it in a position of having to fight for viewers. Add that to the fact that a great deal of the prospective audience has already seen it uncut, and you've got a recipe for no better than middling ratings. Showtime has already amortized out the costs. Seems CBS really had nothing to lose from this experiment. Any money they make on it is gravy. Sturmie 03-17-08, 01:50 PM Overnights from Sunday, March 16: ...Regardless of the awards that "Dexter" reaped from insiders in the business, the vast majority of mainstream television viewers reject the program, and are not tuning in... time for my "The Majority Of The Population Are Idiots, I Mean Really Dumb" speech. outside of premium channels, smart, serialized shows just don't make it (Lost is about the only exception i can think of offhand). the past is littered with shows that were too smart for the general viewing public and even though they were critically acclaimed, failed because their "ratings" weren't up to snuff. i personally do not have a Nielson's box, but maybe i should...that way, all my favorite shows wouldn't keep getting canceled (R.I.P. Jericho...my latest to go down). /rant chibul 03-17-08, 01:51 PM Jericho has not yet been canceled. archiguy 03-17-08, 02:09 PM time for my "The Majority Of The Population Are Idiots, I Mean Really Dumb" speech. outside of premium channels, smart, serialized shows just don't make it (Lost is about the only exception i can think of offhand). the past is littered with shows that were too smart for the general viewing public and even though they were critically acclaimed, failed because their "ratings" weren't up to snuff. i personally do not have a Nielson's box, but maybe i should...that way, all my favorite shows wouldn't keep getting canceled (R.I.P. Jericho...my latest to go down). /rant As a fellow lover of complex serial shows, I feel your pain. It's a shame that the networks can't modify their business model to let the dumb stuff, which gets high ratings, subsidize the good stuff, which doesn't. Fox's 'American Idol', for example could easily supply the financial fodder to keep a show like 'Firefly' on the air. CBS's stable of crime procedurals could fund a 'Jericho'. NBC's insipid reality lineup could float a 'Kidnapped'. We really are extremely lucky to have LOST, but even that show is slowly bleeding viewers. Unfortunately, the current business model makes every show sink or swim on its own and some shows are just too intellectually challenging for the increasingly intellectually-challenged public. The networks make a lot of money; they'd still make it in my perfect TV world, they'd just allocate it differently. Maybe the executives would have to settle for a new Bently every other year, but people who appreciate good TV would have something to watch and wouldn't have to worry about it getting prematurely cancelled. Hey, I can dream. :p Timpanogos 03-17-08, 04:57 PM archiguy: I agree skyehill: I also agree with you about us all being in the minority now nickdawg 03-17-08, 05:22 PM Overnights from Sunday, March 16: "ABC completed the nightly sweep at 10 p.m. with a 2.9 for Here Come the Newlyweds, with NBC second with a 2.2 for a repeat of Law & Order: Special Victims Unit. CBS was third with a 1.8 for Dexter and Univision fourth with a 0.7 for the second half of its Telenovela special. -From medialifemagazine.com Smart, thought provoking shows like "Deter" usually suffer on network TV. Just think of some of the other good shows that have been canned in the past. These numbers really speak for the intelligence and quality of the viewing audience. There is no shortage of stupid people in America and on Sunday nights at 10 they're watching "Here Come the Newlyweds". Probably in stretchovision, thinking it's REAL HD;);):rolleyes::D dad1153 05-03-08, 12:58 PM Heads-up: CBS will air the last two episodes of "Dexter S1" back-to-back this Sunday, May 4th, from 9 to 11PM ET/PT. Set your DVR's! :) w280sax 05-03-08, 03:15 PM Speaking for myself, I was hooked on Dexter by the time CBS broadcast the second episode. Then I rented the entire first season of Dexter from NetFlix. Now I'm in the middle of the first Jeff Lindsey crime novel Darkly Dreaming Dexter (2004). Let me tell you folks, the Showtime series is a pale imitation of the book, although there is a remarkable amount of prose taken straight from the page into the monologues narrated by Dexter in many scenes. It's just that Showtime left out so much of the rich detail and plot intricacies. Yeah I know how different the printed and filmed media are. Still, it's another case of the book being much much better than the show. I will rent Season 2 when the DVDs are released. Untill then, these are the books: Darkly Dreaming Dexter (2004) Dearly Devoted Dexter (2005) Dexter in the Dark (2007) I've read the first two books and watched both seasons on Showtime. The second season was an original story and in my opinion it was better than the first season or either of the books I've read. You're in for a treat when you see it. sandiegojoe 05-04-08, 06:42 PM Heads-up: CBS will air the last two episodes of "Dexter S1" back-to-back this Sunday, May 4th, from 9 to 11PM ET/PT. Set your DVR's! :) bump, one of the best season finales EVER! rezzy 05-04-08, 07:25 PM Gosh....this show is like nothing else on broadcast TV. And as morbid as it is, I find myself watchin' every Sunday, when I should be asleep. Good thing I'm off work tomorrow. Number_6 05-05-08, 12:12 AM Any chance CBS will carry Season 2 of Dexer in the fall, or whenever? audiomagnate 05-05-08, 08:47 AM Any chance CBS will carry Season 2 of Dexer in the fall, or whenever? I really doubt it. This was a writer's strike fill in the gaps deal, plus the ad after the second show said next season would be available only on Showtime. That was great stuff last night. richiephx 05-05-08, 11:53 AM The program is so much better on Showtime anyway because it's unedited and commercial free. (except for Showtime's intrusive pop ups during programs) Don H 05-07-08, 06:23 PM Just spent the last two days watching Season 2 on Sho on demand. If you can get Sho its worth the coins and time. Can't wait for season 3. dlt21 05-11-08, 07:04 PM Season 2 on DVD any time soon ??? dad1153 05-11-08, 07:12 PM Currently scheduled for September release to build-up to the October premiere of Season 3. Showtime will repeat Season 2 of "Dexter" in high-definition on Sunday nights in a few weeks though. Worth the subscription price, IMHO. :) chibul 05-11-08, 09:27 PM Not sure where you heard September....release date is August 19. NorthJersey 05-12-08, 01:18 PM and chance that CBS will rerun season 2 this year or next ? |