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mikepaul
11-16-05, 12:12 PM
I'm just glad we're getting a new channel at no additional cost.Umm, I guess you already have the HD tier. "movies and old, cancelled sitcoms no one was interested in" is a close match to why I got rid of the HD tier when it was no longer free.

I was hoping UniversalHD was going to be next to Discovery Theater HD...

bdfox18doe
11-16-05, 12:28 PM
And hey, you can now download ""movies and old, cancelled sitcoms no one was interested in" free from AOL..

Give us more of what we want, not more of what nobody wants.

usace
11-16-05, 01:04 PM
Umm, I guess you already have the HD tier. "movies and old, cancelled sitcoms no one was interested in" is a close match to why I got rid of the HD tier when it was no longer free.

I was hoping UniversalHD was going to be next to Discovery Theater HD...

Yes, sorry. I do have the HD tier. I agree with you in that I have not been pleased with the programming on the INHD stations nor the HDNet stations, and rarely watch any of them. But the $6 a month is worth it just for ESPNHD. A lot of people may disagree, but to me it is. Anyway, for anyone with the HD tier it won't be any additional cost.

I guess with the limited amount of HD content out there still it's hard to fill 24 hours a day with good programming... or for that matter even a couple of hours a day. :rolleyes: The thread I was referring to made it sound like UniversalHD would be along the lines of one of the INHD channels.

Gary J
11-16-05, 02:26 PM
"movies and old, cancelled sitcoms no one was interested in" is a close match to why I got rid of the HD tier when it was no longer free.

Well my Granny likes 'em. I guess this is why they have menus in restaurants.

Marky_Mark896
11-16-05, 02:28 PM
I don't know what's up with the random rebooting, but I just recently started noticing it on both my SD and HD DVR's.... Any clues Diana?

Thanks,
Mark

DianaTWCSC
11-16-05, 03:21 PM
Mark -

I need to know if you are seeing an 8300 reboot or an 8000 reboot.

Any 8300 reboot since Tuesday (11/15) morning I need to know about because the Engineers think they got all the little buggers beat by that time.

8000 reboots new issue that Engineers are looking - I just heard about it yesterday also, and I didn't get much info at the time, so I really can't speak to it right now... just that I know its happening.

mikepaul
11-16-05, 03:26 PM
Diana,

Did they push through an update for the 8300HDs overnight?

When I wake up to Channel 01 in the morning, I'm not sure what the cause was...

blizz
11-16-05, 04:37 PM
Any 8300 reboot since Tuesday (11/15) morning I need to know about because the Engineers think they got all the little buggers beat by that time.



My 8300 rebooted this morning around 2AM while it was off, but recording something.

BTW - Diana, don't you know when these boxes reboot by looking at some kind of a log? Do they report some kind of dump file, or at least an error code when they crash?

DianaTWCSC
11-16-05, 05:48 PM
MikePaul and Blizz - sorry, we did the reboot overnight, I forgot about that, so lets not count that one for any converter reboot.

Blizz - there is a master boot record, but it really gives top of line info for the entire state. When you guys let me know specifics and the engineers look at your individual records via the MAC address then they can really troubleshoot. Overall it just makes it quicker to diagnosis and resolve issues with specific converter info.

D-Nice
11-16-05, 05:50 PM
I know you guys already know, but what kind of programming can we expect to see on Universal HD? And will it cost extra? I hope not, I still can't get used to my TW bill, which is higher than my power bill!

Reruns

Marky_Mark896
11-16-05, 06:03 PM
Diana, I had my 8300HD reboot this morning and maybe again after that. My 8000SD is rebooting randomly as well.

Thanks
Mark

shahram72
11-16-05, 06:09 PM
I thought the "HD Tier" was the extra channels that cost extra. INHD and HDNET. So you have to have those for the $6.95 or whatever the charge is to get Universal HD, if I understand correctly. I guess I won't get it if that's the case. I had those channels for free for a day when I got my new box. Some nice programs, but nothing I'd pay extra for. HD is the new standard in programming, not a premium. The only reason I have HD is that is available at no additional cost. The standard cost is great enough for me to bear.

shahram72
11-16-05, 06:12 PM
OH, BTW, both my 8300HD and 3250HD rebooted sometime last night as well. Since your asking.

Marky_Mark896
11-16-05, 06:13 PM
I've been a little out of the loop here lately, but reading D-Nice's reply to Shahram's question made me wonder, are we getting a new HD channel? Or was this just a hypothetical question about Universal HD?

Mark

Gary J
11-16-05, 06:20 PM
Is there a reason you just can not read back a little?

D-Nice
11-16-05, 06:31 PM
I've been a little out of the loop here lately, but reading D-Nice's reply to Shahram's question made me wonder, are we getting a new HD channel? Or was this just a hypothetical question about Universal HD?

Mark


Yes we are....Universal.....when???? Sometime after 12/13.

courier72
11-16-05, 07:35 PM
Am I the only one having audio issues with WLTX-DT? I have been told by the station engineer that last night there was no issue with the broadcast.

DSTALNAK@WLTX.GANNETT.COM (please let him know)

I've noticed what seem to be level issues with CBS network programming. Doesn't seem occur on local programming on WLTX-DT.

kevinivey
11-16-05, 09:40 PM
Please let them know.

Mirakaski
11-17-05, 09:17 AM
When watching ABC HD on my SA8300 the image "shakes" up and down very very slightly. Its very very annoying. I had the same problem with my 3100 and thats why I got the 8300. Can anyone help? I don't notice this on any other channel.

bransc
11-17-05, 12:17 PM
Diana:
This is a little off topic but will twc be carrying Howard Stern's on demand channel when it launches tommorow?

D-rock0030
11-17-05, 03:21 PM
I agree. The HDNET and INHD channels are basically worthless. I'd have cancelled the HD tier long time ago if it wasnt for ESPN-HD on there. I get the feeling thats probably the channel thats saving that tier from extinction among customers. I cant remember when the last time I actually watched anything on channels 930, 931, 940, or 941.

DianaTWCSC
11-17-05, 03:58 PM
Diana:
This is a little off topic but will twc be carrying Howard Stern's on demand channel when it launches tommorow?


You betcha.

shahram72
11-17-05, 04:05 PM
HDNET and INHD are free with satellite, and IMO should be free with out more expensive cable serivice. The general consensus here is that they are not worth paying for anyway. And it's a shame that ESPNHD costs extra as well. I don't watch sports, but they might as well charge for regular ESPN if that's the case. Why not? I know this is ESPN doing the extra charging, but aren't they advertiser supported?

bdfox18doe
11-17-05, 04:20 PM
Most likley NO HD on WOLO tonite...we're in the process of updating the ABC system and are still working on the satellite antenna upgrade. IF we get it then you'll see HD..

kevinivey
11-17-05, 04:24 PM
HDNET and INHD are free with satellite


Nope, and INHD is on cable only.

Gary J
11-17-05, 04:38 PM
Owned by a cable company in fact. Has the NBA, MLB, excellent concerts, etc. HDNET is owned by Mark Cuban who has done more for HDTV than anyone. Both are excellent networks IMO.

kevinivey
11-17-05, 05:43 PM
Gary I actually agree 100%.

kevinivey
11-17-05, 05:44 PM
Most likley NO HD on WOLO tonite...we're in the process of updating the ABC system and are still working on the satellite antenna upgrade. IF we get it then you'll see HD..


I didn't realize ABC even had programming On Thursday :p Good luck on the upgrade.

courier72
11-17-05, 06:50 PM
When watching ABC HD on my SA8300 the image "shakes" up and down very very slightly. Its very very annoying. I had the same problem with my 3100 and thats why I got the 8300. Can anyone help? I don't notice this on any other channel.

Which output and signal type are you feeding your display? Have you ever noticed it on Fox HD? What type of monitor do you have?

courier72
11-17-05, 07:10 PM
I didn't realize ABC even had programming On Thursday :p Good luck on the upgrade.

Ahem... well, there's Alias, albiet a shadow of what it was three years ago.

DianaTWCSC
11-17-05, 07:45 PM
HDNET and INHD are free with satellite,

Just for the record -


the HD Package on Direct costs $10.99 a month and includes ESPNHD, ESPN2HD, HD Net, HD Net Movies, Discovery HD and Universal HD.


Dish network charges $9.99 for ESPNHD, HD Net, HD Net Movies, Discovery HD and TNT HD.



Notice TWC doesn't charge for either Discovery HD or TNT HD and charges less at $6.95 a month than either satellite service.

shahram72
11-17-05, 07:58 PM
I stand corrected. But I am still wondering if Universal HD will be part of that optional "HD Tier" or will be offered to all HD customers.

Gary J
11-17-05, 08:01 PM
She already answered that question if you take a moment and read back some.

DianaTWCSC
11-17-05, 08:46 PM
Universal HD will be part of the HD Tier on TWCSC.

Marky_Mark896
11-17-05, 09:00 PM
I for one think INHD and HDNET channels have some interesting programming on them. Maybe it is only because I only watch HD shows anymore. I personnally think TWCSC is doing a great job, and am going to miss them when we move back to Ohio.

Mark

Dan'sHiPix
11-17-05, 09:11 PM
Hey all,
I am pleased to announce that WLTX-DT is now transmitting in DD 5.1 audio when available from CBS.
I hope you enjoy it. Please be patient as we get all of the switching procedures finalized.

kevinivey
11-17-05, 10:34 PM
Hey all,
I am pleased to announce that WLTX-DT is now transmitting in DD 5.1 audio when available from CBS.
I hope you enjoy it. Please be patient as we get all of the switching procedures
finalized.


I noticed that " CSI" was not in DD 5.1 this evening, and the DD 2.0 contained crackle. This was observed OTA ,and via TWC. Hope you have success with your audio passage." Survivor" audio was clean.

Mirakaski
11-18-05, 07:36 AM
Which output and signal type are you feeding your display? Have you ever noticed it on Fox HD? What type of monitor do you have?

Never notice it on any channel but ABC. I have a 42" Mits. I feed it 1080i from the box for my hd content. Thanks for your help.

Dan'sHiPix
11-18-05, 09:01 AM
I noticed that " CSI" was not in DD 5.1 this evening, and the DD 2.0 contained crackle. This was observed OTA ,and via TWC. Hope you have success with your audio passage." Survivor" audio was clean.
I watched it in 5.1 at my house ota. I paid particular attention to this show as it was the first one in the evening offered by CBS in 5.1 (also the only one offered last night). My receiver switched modes from 5.1 to 2.0 for each commercial break and back to 5.1 for the show segments. There was not any crackle in my audio at home either. I did notice a little in the audio during the Music awards show the previous night though. I did not stay up for Letterman to see how the audio went there. Keep me posted.

bdenman
11-18-05, 09:16 AM
I watched it in 5.1 at my house ota. I paid particular attention to this show as it was the first one in the evening offered by CBS in 5.1 (also the only one offered last night). My receiver switched modes from 5.1 to 2.0 for each commercial break and back to 5.1 for the show segments. There was not any crackle in my audio at home either. I did notice a little in the audio during the Music awards show the previous night though. I did not stay up for Letterman to see how the audio went there. Keep me posted.
Dan,
Appreciate the update and the upgrade. Unfortunately I missed this first presentation of DD5.1 but I will be looking forward to it on future broadcasts.

___
Bruce

D-rock0030
11-18-05, 04:02 PM
Hey all,
I am pleased to announce that WLTX-DT is now transmitting in DD 5.1 audio when available from CBS.
I hope you enjoy it. Please be patient as we get all of the switching procedures finalized.

Thats great news. Suddenly I just realized I really dont watch CBS that much. "Yes, Dear", college football, and NFL football thats about it. When I do watch WLTX-DT via TWC I havent noticed any audio problems and the PQ is excellent, by far the best of the 4 networks IMO.

kevinivey
11-18-05, 08:02 PM
"Ghost Whisperer" not in DD 5.1 via TWC. No audio crackle.

blizz
11-18-05, 08:06 PM
"Ghost Whisperer" not in DD 5.1 via TWC. No audio crackle.

My receiver says its DD2.0, but all I'm getting is music and efx in L, R, C, RS, LS, but no dialog, like the center channel is missing.

blizz
11-18-05, 08:22 PM
My receiver says its DD2.0, but all I'm getting is music and efx in L, R, C, RS, LS, but no dialog, like the center channel is missing.

After returning from a commercial break at 8:20, it switched to DD5.1 with dialog. All seems OK now. I hope it sticks.

sheppardwk
11-18-05, 08:22 PM
My receiver says its DD2.0, but all I'm getting is music and efx in L, R, C, RS, LS, but no dialog, like the center channel is missing.
Same here. 810 there is no audio, but 009 there is. What's going on WLTX?

kevinivey
11-18-05, 09:12 PM
Perfectly flagged!

TechMan
11-19-05, 02:40 AM
Numbers 5.1 Audio Sounded great!

kevinivey
11-19-05, 06:42 AM
It was a lot hotter than I thought it would be. My audio receiever flashed +4 when switching to this channel. The HDNET channels are the only other ones that come in that hot.


Good job!

msturkie
11-20-05, 01:27 PM
I have 2 8300HDs, one in the living room and one in the bedroom. One does not appear to get a good signal on channels 810 and 815. Sometimes no picture at all, and lots of stuttering and artifacting when there is a picture. All other channels, including 805 and 820, come in great. Rebooting seems to solve the problem for a few minutes, but it always comes back. I first noticed this about a week and a half ago when trying to watch Lost. I thought it was just a bad night, but we're still having problems. The other 8300HD has no trouble receiving the channels. Any ideas of what could be the problem? Is it a bad box, or does that have anything to do with it? Thanks in advance.

DianaTWCSC
11-20-05, 01:52 PM
Switch them and we can see if the behavior is tied to the converter or the location.

msturkie
11-20-05, 02:46 PM
Thanks for replying, Dianna. Because of the trouble I'd have to go through with my entertainment center, I brought the box out of the bedroom (where it was working) to the living room . I connected it to the TV, leaving the other box connected. I removed the coax cable from the TV to feed the cable box (the feed from the wall is split- one to the 8300HD and the other to the TV). After it booted, I tuned it to channels 810 and 815, and both came in great. And now the other box is getting these channels clear as well! I unhooked the box from the bedroom, reconnected the TV, and back came the problems. Hmmm... so I removed the coax from the TV, and while it still runs through a splitter, the signal now only goes to the cable box. That seems to do the trick. Since I rarely watched cable through the TV's tuner, I can live with this.

kevinivey
11-20-05, 06:50 PM
Diana,

Any chance of the TWC program guide to indicate HD on Fox-HD? It has never said anything was HD.

kevinivey
11-20-05, 06:51 PM
The 5.1 for The Colts and The Bengals game is very good. Great job Wltx-DT!

DianaTWCSC
11-20-05, 07:51 PM
Diana,

Any chance of the TWC program guide to indicate HD on Fox-HD? It has never said anything was HD.

If you can get FOX to provide the information to the central source that the three or four national guide vendos all use. The guide can only shows the information it gathers from each source.

DianaTWCSC
11-21-05, 12:07 PM
A little off topic, but I include it because this has been a point of discussion recently.

This is a quote from today's Multichannel News Day Fax:

The House passed a bill Friday morning that would end analog-TV broadcasting at the end of 2008, but would not award extra cable-carriage rights to digital-TV signals. In addition to setting a digital-TV transition hard date, the House bill would provide a net $830 million to subsidize set-tops to keep analog-TV sets working mainly in homes that do not subscribe to cable or satellite.

The House bill needs to be reconciled with the Senate bill, which included $3 billion for set-tops and an April 7, 2009 analog cutoff.

Although the NAB pressed lawmakers to require cable carriage of multi-cast digital-TV services, both chambers have so far declined to do so.

kevinivey
11-22-05, 06:42 AM
:)

DianaTWCSC
11-22-05, 08:10 AM
As I have told my SC customers many a time, I have no updates on the ESPN negotiations. The only update I will ever be able to provide is a launch date - and that will only be applicable to SC customers because of the differences in bandwidth and equipment from any of the 4 TWC NC Divisions to SC.

Thank you from pointing out that COX and Adelphia have different HD programming availability - but since my post was specifically in response to an inaccurate statement regarding satellite, your input is beyond the scope of the original discussion. In addition, the information on COX and Adelphia would not be consistent from area to area. There are Adelphia systems in SC that are only 330 plant, so to say their lineup is comparable or better than TWC in SC in the area of HD would quite eronious. It is best to compare providers within the same footprint for accuracy, so my original comparison is really the most accurate representation for a Columbia DMA thread.

Gary J
11-22-05, 08:13 AM
Does this mean SC TWC has less total available bandwidth than NC TWC?

DianaTWCSC
11-22-05, 08:15 AM
Does this mean SC TWC has less total available bandwidth than NC TWC?


not even for a second

- it means I don't have the authority to speak for any NC Division - and even if I had the authority it would be a different case from system to system to system for the very same reason the lineups in SC are not all identical.

Nucleartiger
11-23-05, 01:45 AM
I had Cox cable before I moved and got TWC. I too would LOVE to see some new channels being added (especially those channels that are already contractually allowed to be shown ie. UniversalHD). I can't speak for HD Lineup on Cox cable because I didn't have an HDTV at that point.

I can speak for the price and reliability though. I paid about 3/4ths what I pay now for essentially all the same equipment and packages and as far as reliability goes. I lose my cable more times per MONTH then I did total in 2 years with COX cable.

That being said, thanks for replying to our concerns and helping us out like you do Diana.

AndyHDTV
11-23-05, 01:59 AM
Regarding some channels this was a response to an Email I sent to Fred Dressler Executive Vice President, Programming back in August

"thanks for your continued support of time warner cable. we are doing what we can to add HD and meet other customer needs that eat up bandwidth. still, we are close to having deals for UPN, ESPN 2, Universal, Starz, Cinemax and TMC."

"i think it realisitic to anticipate that these deals will be done in the next few months and be added to the system in early '06."

fred.dressler@twcable.com

take things into your own hands, Email who ever you see fit.

http://www.timewarnercable.com/corporate/aboutus/management.html

D-Nice
11-23-05, 12:47 PM
Unlike satellite and some other cable companies, TWC does not compress to hell their HD channels (aka HD-Lite). They currently do not have enough bandwidth to add another channel that uses 19.8 MB. I personally applaud them for taking a stand on HD-Lite broadcasting. Bandwidth is not cheap and just because they had record profits recently doesn't mean they now have the cash flow to spend millions on additional bandwidth for each DMA (doesn't work like that with major corporations and for your area would require major hardware buildouts to convert from 750MHZ broadcasting to the 900MHZ+ broadcasting frequency). Once SDV comes to your area, it will free up bandwidth to add additional HD channels. I'm pretty sure you will see at least 3-5 additional HD channels added next year...and thats' being VERY conservative.

Ken H
11-23-05, 12:47 PM
Off topic comments deleted. Please keep on topic with discussions for this local area.

D-Nice
11-23-05, 09:15 PM
Now, I never said the lineup didn't suck cause it does. As far as the Uni preview, if you recall, they did it on one of the two wasted HD channels (813 and 814 here in Columbia) that show nothing but special events (here in Columbia one channel duplicates what it playing on InHD 95% of the day and the other is completely blank).....so no additional bandwidth was needed. The reason why you will see more channels after SDV is launched because it frees up bandwidth they already have....so no additional bandwidth had to be purchased and the only money TWC has to pay is the carriage of the new channels.

Trust me when I say that it is a hell of alot easier and cheaper to pay for carriage agreements compared to spectrum.

Gary J
11-23-05, 09:47 PM
It is kind of strange that all along the problem was getting the deals done and now that they have one (UHD) there is no place to put it. I bet if ESPN2HD got done a spot would magically appear.

kevinivey
11-23-05, 09:57 PM
As it should.

Ken H
11-24-05, 01:22 AM
More deletions.

scruffy7
11-25-05, 10:16 AM
It is kind of strange that all along the problem was getting the deals done and now that they have one (UHD) there is no place to put it.

not true, bandwidth has always been mentioned as a consideration. around a year and a half ago it came up and i floated the idea of killing the west coast HBO and Showtime HD feeds which was quickly shot down. tempus fugit.

Gary J
11-25-05, 10:24 AM
Not true, I have HBO West, all four major networks and up until UHD Diana has always talked about adding more HD as soon as it became available.

D-Nice
11-25-05, 10:50 AM
Guys, bandwidth is a dead issue. They don't have it. Get over it. SDV rolls in about 2 weeks. TWC will have no excuse after that to add new HD channels. End of story.

BTW....UniversalHD sucks. Law and Order 70% of the day....pfffff. The only thing they ever had worth watching was Battlestar Galatica. I personally could care less when or if TWC adds that channel. I want ESPN2, Stars, and Cinemax.

scruffy7
11-25-05, 11:51 AM
Not true, I have HBO West, all four major networks and up until UHD Diana has always talked about adding more HD as soon as it became available.

what's not true? being that you seem to be disinclined to scroll uptopic for yourself, here is the relevant post from march 2004:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=3543871&&#post3543871

STARZ! & Encore HD - Contract Negotiation
Bravo HD - Contract Negotiation

Cinemax HD & TMC HD - we have opted to NOT launch these services at this time due to 'concern' about future bandwidth options. We want to make sure that we have bandwidth available for HD launches of the most frequently requested services when those channels become available, ie ESPN, WACH, TNT, BRAVO, WB, etc.


since then 3 of the above mentioned (and frequently requested) channels have been added.

Guys, bandwidth is a dead issue. They don't have it. Get over it. SDV rolls in about 2 weeks. TWC will have no excuse after that to add new HD channels. End of story.

i agree and that was the unsaid point of my post. it has always been about both bandwidth and carriage agreements. believe me, i've had my issues with TWC and i think there are plenty of issues one could have with them without making stuff up. :)

uscboy
11-26-05, 08:18 PM
What's up with WOLODT 25-1 tonight with a picture of a table of dorks frozen on the
channel instead of the Georgia-Georgia Tech game? :)

25-2 and 25-3 are working fine... seems odd. Maybe it's the network feed and not local?

sao309
11-26-05, 09:01 PM
The dorks showed up right at 8:00 and froze right there. HELP!! I've been waiting for this game all day and non-HD just doesn't cut it.

uscboy
11-26-05, 09:22 PM
Shows how immature HD technology is yet again... and earlier on CBS a good portion of the
game on 19-1 was without the announcers... all the other sounds were working, just no
feed from the announcers. :)

I feel sorry for the technicians some days... I'll feel more sorry for them when people start
taking this seriously and big money is lost and big fingers are pointed.

bdfox18doe
11-26-05, 09:52 PM
yep..WOLO-DT is sick..the info I have from ABC says it isn't HD anyway..

regards.. "the dorks".. :)

Our upconvertor froze..happens once in a blue moon..We did test the ABC hd feed, and the game isn't there, my mco tells me his info doesn't show the game as being hd. Who knows.. :(

bdfox18doe
11-26-05, 10:12 PM
I'll feel more sorry for them when people start
taking this seriously and big money is lost and big fingers are pointed.

Yep..for the most part, this stuff is single-thread, i.e. no redundancy..there is "some" redundancy in the transmitters, but the hd receivers, splicers, encoders, and muxes are "ALL" single thread.. I gues the bright side is we have 3 years to get it stabilized, which will take a lot of money and effort.. :mad:

uscboy
11-26-05, 10:13 PM
Ahh, didn't know if it was in HD or not really... pretty disappointed in ABC if it's not.

Maybe next year they'll buy some HD cams and upgrade their studios and carry their rare
8pm prime time games in HD also.

Thanks for unsticking it... looks like it's SD, yeah. Oh well.

Still, looks like it's a better picture on 25-1 than 25-2 due to compression, so at least it's an improvement.

kevinivey
11-27-05, 07:00 AM
HD College games Next Week.

Saturday, Dec. 3rd:
Big XII Championship: Texas vs Colorado 12 Noon ABC
Conf USA Championship: Tulsa at Central Florida 12 Noon ESPN
Army vs Navy 1:30 PM CBS
UCLA at Southern California 4:30 PM ABC
SEC Championship: Georgia vs LSU 6 PM CBS
ACC Championship: Florida State vs. Virginia Tech 8 PM ABC

shahram72
11-27-05, 05:44 PM
My 3250HD shows a black and white and color shimmering on the picture when I use the start over feature every time. It did this occaisionally before, but not enough to bug me. And of course, if you change a channel or do something to make it stop, you lose the start over feature and have to begin again. Should I bother to call customer service? Or just take the box in and get it swapped? I mean, do the people in customer service really do anything other than tell you unplug it? I don't want to waste their time or mine.

Also, I just realized that Cinemax HD exists and we don't have it. Why not? So we are adding Universal HD for extra money that has unappealing programming, and not providing a full Cinemax lineup? Is Cinemax HD new? There are some movies I would like to see on there. As it is, I have to supplement my cable lineup with Netflix because there is very little in the way of new content to watch on TMC, Cinemax, Showtime, and HBO combined. I think Rome has made the deal for me so far, and now it's over for the season.

bdenman
11-28-05, 12:13 PM
My 3250HD shows a black and white and color shimmering on the picture when I use the start over feature every time. It did this occaisionally before, but not enough to bug me. And of course, if you change a channel or do something to make it stop, you lose the start over feature and have to begin again. Should I bother to call customer service? Or just take the box in and get it swapped? I mean, do the people in customer service really do anything other than tell you unplug it? I don't want to waste their time or mine.
No experience with this feature... we don't have it here yet. I would definitely suggest you put in a call to TWC and report the problem and see what they suggest.

Also, I just realized that Cinemax HD exists and we don't have it. Why not? (snip)... .
Diana discussed this back in August (Post #4472 ( http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=6044846&&#post6044846)). "If we add Cinemax HD prior to achieving SDB we will have to drop HBO W HD to do so - that mean's you would have to pay $7 more per month the have the same number of HD screens you get now (2) - we aren't going to entertain an option where we require customer's to pay more to achieve what they are getting now. After SDB then we can add Cinemax HD and if you choose to pay more to get the additional channel then that works for us too."
_____
Bruce

shahram72
11-28-05, 03:33 PM
Sorry, I read most of what's here, but cannot catch everything. I definitely understand the bandwidth issue. I wonder how this is to solved in the future, 10 years from now, when Hd is truly the standard and every major channel broadcasts in it.

So Cinemax charges extra for it's HD channel, even when you already have Cinemax?

bdenman
11-28-05, 04:31 PM
Sorry, I read most of what's here, but cannot catch everything. I definitely understand the bandwidth issue. I wonder how this is to solved in the future, 10 years from now, when Hd is truly the standard and every major channel broadcasts in it.

So Cinemax charges extra for it's HD channel, even when you already have Cinemax?
The point I believe Diana was trying to make was that TWCSC would now have to drop a HD feed (HBO-W mentioned) to make room for Cinemax HD. Local viewers then who want mainly HD would would have to pay more $$ each month just to keep the same number of HD channels. The $7 figure mentioned probably refers to the additional cost of a second premium channel (say after HBO and its HD channel) and not a charge for HD. With Cinemax you get 12 channels of SD stuff now and, I suspect, one in HD when it becomes available (after they get SDB is working).
_____
Bruce

D-Nice
11-28-05, 04:36 PM
I wonder how this is to solved in the future, 10 years from now, when Hd is truly the standard and every major channel broadcasts in it.


Thats easy to accomplish. MPEG4 with SDV can make enough room for 1000 channels easy.

bdfox18doe
11-28-05, 05:20 PM
.. enough room for 1000 channels easy.


Yea...rather than saying 500 channels to watch with nothing on, we'll be able to say 1000! channels to watch with nothing on... :rolleyes:

Of course, with SDV I can then get all the home shopping channels I want! :D

D-Nice
11-28-05, 05:31 PM
Yea...rather than saying 500 channels to watch with nothing on, we'll be able to say 1000! channels to watch with nothing on... :rolleyes:

Of course, with SDV I can then get all the home shopping channels I want! :D


Hehe

D-rock0030
11-29-05, 09:18 AM
HD screens

You really gotta love that cablespeak :)

DianaTWCSC
11-29-05, 10:42 AM
Hello - leaving the office in a few minutes and will not be back until sometime Thursday.

Part business - Meetings
Part going to Chapel Hill to see Illinois Play!

If you have any issues, please call customer service at 866-892-7201

shahram72
11-29-05, 11:16 AM
OK, so we could get Cinemax HD sometime after the SDV switchover, if they decide to give it to us? I wanted to watch Elektra last night, but not in SD, so I skipped it.

D-rock0030
11-30-05, 09:49 AM
OK, so we could get Cinemax HD sometime after the SDV switchover, if they decide to give it to us?

That sounds like what is being insinuated from reading the previous posts. You, of course, would have to subscribe to the cinemax package.

gamecock
11-30-05, 11:48 AM
Anybody having picture issues with HDMI/DVI? I have a 8300HD dvr and picture started to flash with some green shadows (or something). This just started yesterday. Picture looks ok via the coax.
I have a DVD and the cable box switch via a HDMI/DVI switcher and DVD picture is fine so it appears to be coming from the cable box.

mikepaul
11-30-05, 04:16 PM
UniversalHD offered in email today. First 30 days of the HD Tier free. Didn't see if it kicks in after the 13th or not, since I'm not going for it...

kevinivey
11-30-05, 07:45 PM
Time Warner Cable's High Definition Tier just got BETTER!

Introducing Universal HD. Catch your favorite movies, series, sports, specials and performance arts content as captivating as HD itself. The best destination for Universal HD is Time Warner Cable's High Definition Tier.

Tune to channel 945 today!

DianaTWCSC
11-30-05, 07:58 PM
Time Warner Cable's High Definition Tier just got BETTER!

Introducing Universal HD. Catch your favorite movies, series, sports, specials and performance arts content as captivating as HD itself. The best destination for Universal HD is Time Warner Cable's High Definition Tier.

Tune to channel 945 today!


Tune tomorrow!

My bad - the creative didn't include the launch date (which I should have caught) or I should have had my staff send out tomorrow 12/1 rather than today.

Very sorry - lots of excuses as to the mess up - no really good reason.

DianaTWCSC
11-30-05, 07:59 PM
UniversalHD offered in email today. First 30 days of the HD Tier free. Didn't see if it kicks in after the 13th or not, since I'm not going for it...



Again - Launch Date Thursday December 1


6 Channel HD Tier available with HD Converter or HD DVR at a rate of $6.95 a month - Promotional offer is Free for first 30 days.

Gary J
11-30-05, 08:00 PM
Any of you get this email we got here? -

Time Warner Cable's High Definition Tier just got BETTER!

Introducing Universal HD. Catch your favorite movies, series, sports, specials and performance arts content as captivating as HD itself. The best destination for Universal HD is Time Warner Cable's High Definition Tier.

Tune to channel 945 today!

blizz
11-30-05, 10:07 PM
I've noticed something new in the last couple of days.

If I'm watching a recorded program and new scheduled recordings start that involve both tuners, the program playing stops and I get dumped onto one of the channels that is starting a new recording. It never did this before, and I don't lose any recordings, but it is very annoying.

I've got an 8300HD.

Anybody else notice this phenomenon?

TechMan
12-01-05, 02:14 AM
I've noticed something new in the last couple of days.

If I'm watching a recorded program and new scheduled recordings start that involve both tuners, the program playing stops and I get dumped onto one of the channels that is starting a new recording. It never did this before, and I don't lose any recordings, but it is very annoying.

I've got an 8300HD.

Anybody else notice this phenomenon?


I have had the same problem.

IrmoGamecoq
12-01-05, 08:23 AM
I've noticed something new in the last couple of days.

If I'm watching a recorded program and new scheduled recordings start that involve both tuners, the program playing stops and I get dumped onto one of the channels that is starting a new recording. It never did this before, and I don't lose any recordings, but it is very annoying.

I've got an 8300HD.

Anybody else notice this phenomenon?

Yep, same here. I have an 8000HD.

Very annoying.

IrmoGamecoq
12-01-05, 08:24 AM
Btw, Rudolph looked great last night in 4:3 HD.

I had never noticed the strings before holding him up in the final credits scene. :D

D-rock0030
12-01-05, 09:22 AM
I've noticed something new in the last couple of days.

If I'm watching a recorded program and new scheduled recordings start that involve both tuners, the program playing stops and I get dumped onto one of the channels that is starting a new recording. It never did this before, and I don't lose any recordings, but it is very annoying.

I've got an 8300HD.

Anybody else notice this phenomenon?

Well the DVR only has two tuners and if you are recording two different channels at the same time it must be tuned to one of the two channels that its recording. If you are watching a previously recorded program that requires using a channel also (channel 498) and it cant tune to 3 different channels at once.

IrmoGamecoq
12-01-05, 11:22 AM
D-Rock - The DVR has always allowed you to watch a previously recorded show while recording 2 different shows at the same time. The difference now is that it kicks you out of the prerecorded show when two recordings begin simultaneously. It's never done that before.

It's not that big of a deal as all you have to do is press "last" on the remote to return to the DVR channel, but it is annoying nonetheless.

kevinivey
12-01-05, 04:40 PM
I have never had my DVR do that. Recording two and playing back at the same time has always been a option since the 8000SD was launched many years ago.

kevinivey
12-01-05, 04:42 PM
Has added a new subchannel.

D-Nice
12-02-05, 08:56 AM
Diana,

Did TWC put all HBO and Showtime HD channels on SDV? I cannot access HBOHD 1 and ShowtimeHD 1 with my cablecard.

Dan'sHiPix
12-02-05, 09:17 AM
Shows how immature HD technology is yet again... and earlier on CBS a good portion of the
game on 19-1 was without the announcers... all the other sounds were working, just no
feed from the announcers. :)

I feel sorry for the technicians some days... I'll feel more sorry for them when people start
taking this seriously and big money is lost and big fingers are pointed.

The problem was from CBS. The game was being produced in 5.1 audio. However, the Dolby Equipment at WLTX was being told it was stereo. The result........ You only get the left and right channels. All of the announcer audio is set to the center channel. That is why you had no announcer audio. I instructed the technicians here to take control from CBS and revert back to default mode which is 5.1 and everything was fine. These type of things happen when you switch modes constantly between 5.1 and stereo.

Dan'sHiPix
12-02-05, 09:19 AM
Has added a new subchannel.

We didn't add a sub-channel. We simply removed 19.2 and activated 19.3 .
I did this because our local radar is included in our weather now product and I did not want to take any more bitrate from the HD signal than necessary.

D-rock0030
12-02-05, 09:19 AM
I have never had my DVR do that. Recording two and playing back at the same time has always been a option since the 8000SD was launched many years ago.

Oh ok, I've never actually tried to do that, just assumed it wouldnt let you. I'll have to try that, because when I'm recording two different channels all it'll let me do is watch one of those two.

bdfox18doe
12-02-05, 09:31 AM
The problem was from CBS. The game was being produced in 5.1 audio. However, the Dolby Equipment at WLTX was being told it was stereo. .

We had the same problem at WAKA.. :(

jdjackson
12-02-05, 07:34 PM
I've noticed something new in the last couple of days.

If I'm watching a recorded program and new scheduled recordings start that involve both tuners, the program playing stops and I get dumped onto one of the channels that is starting a new recording. It never did this before, and I don't lose any recordings, but it is very annoying.

I've got an 8300HD.

Anybody else notice this phenomenon?

Count me among those who have been ousted by
this phenomenon. I have an 8000HD

shahram72
12-02-05, 08:03 PM
Has anyone had good luck with the start over feature? I find myself using it sometimes, but half the time, I get an error message saying the program is unavailable at this time. So I don't really use it anymore. That's on my 8300HD. I can't watch them at all on my 3250, I still have to find time to take that box in and swap it out. I really love all these great features of the digital cable, but can't understand why they have to be so buggy. It's to the point that if I can just watch TV, I'm happy. I feel like expecting the added features to work is expecting too much. My new replaced DVR is working well, though. And I don't want to swap it out again and lose my recorded content, again.

uscboy
12-02-05, 10:14 PM
The problem was from CBS. The game was being produced in 5.1 audio. However, the Dolby Equipment at WLTX was being told it was stereo. The result........ You only get the left and right channels. All of the announcer audio is set to the center channel. That is why you had no announcer audio. I instructed the technicians here to take control from CBS and revert back to default mode which is 5.1 and everything was fine. These type of things happen when you switch modes constantly between 5.1 and stereo.

Took ya a while to tell them. ;)

Nah, just picking... I wouldn't want the job. It sounds like there's very little
standardization in equipment, let alone redundancy or automation.

Actually, it was kind of nice for a while not to have the announcers... we just
made our own commentary for them. I was Verne Lundquist. I kept saying how
much I missed my life partners David Greene and David Pollack. Then I asked for
another hotty toddy and sounded even drunker than I did previously.

Seriously, the guy had wood for those two when they played at Georgia. Just
wouldn't shut up about them... even in games they covered where UGA wasn't playing.

It got boring really quickly. Thanks for turning the real announcers back on. Hope
you don't run into issues for the SECCG tomorrow evening.

kevinivey
12-03-05, 05:13 AM
There was a thread last Saturday over in HD programming complaining about the lack of center channel. There really wasn't much point to post about it over here since it was a national network issue.

scruffy7
12-03-05, 10:12 AM
I have never had my DVR do that. Recording two and playing back at the same time has always been a option since the 8000SD was launched many years ago.

it's not clear what you are referring to here. are you currently able to be playing back a recorded program at the same time that 2 programs start recording and not getting dumped to the beginning of one of the recording programs? it didn't used to be that way but it is now. watching a recorded show after 2 have started recording is unaffected though.

Has anyone had good luck with the start over feature?

i believe there is a start over forum the location of which is a super double top secret to only the few who have start over. maybe someone can IM the secret handshake to you and you can find more helpful info there.

DianaTWCSC
12-03-05, 11:40 AM
Diana,

Did TWC put all HBO and Showtime HD channels on SDV? I cannot access HBOHD 1 and ShowtimeHD 1 with my cablecard.


That is not the plan. I spoke with the Headend and our Cable Card set has also lost these channels, so the Engineers are investigating the issue as I type this.

DianaTWCSC
12-03-05, 11:46 AM
Shahram - and anyone who wants an easy way to troubleshoot for a return issue:

Go to a Free on Demand Channel - anything between 849 and 899 and order a program see if it works

then go to channel 600 and see if that tunes in - its SDV (shhhhhhhh).

If you can accomplish both those tasks then you do not have a return issue.

Shahram - either way, it sounds like you need a service call, not just another equipment switch out, but these steps provide some narrowing of the issue. Please try these steps and also let me know when would be good for a service call for you. My Senior Engineer wants to be in the loop on who goes out there since you have so many unique issues.

Also, is your 3250 on DVI or component?

kevinivey
12-03-05, 06:59 PM
HD gone for the SEC championship from WLTX-DT. Honestly, it didn't look all that great on my system.

Back in HD about 10 minutes later. The Coors Light commercial looked great, as for Georgias red jersey that is another story entirely. I sure wish the Weather Now was Weather later after the game is completed, but that is not likely to ever happen.

shahram72
12-03-05, 09:07 PM
OK, my 3250HD that I have downstairs was able to tune in an on-demand program from ch 849, but got a blank screen on ch 600. Upstairs, my 8300HD would display garbled on-demand content, and also a blank screen on ch 600. They worked with on-demand last week, but never consistently with start over, and now not at all. About 12 months ago you sent someone out to replace the main drop to my house, Can't imagine it's bad again. TWC is the only one who has been in the ground over the past year. And both boxes are working over regular component. My 3250 is actually displaying on a regular analog set, I was originally going to put a new HD set there, and that's why I asked for an HD box, but it never happened due to my media room. I left the HD box there, because the downconverted HD channels are nice to have downstairs. Don't know if this makes a difference or not, but that TV will eventually get replaced with an HD set.

I would be appreciative to have a tech come out and prove that I'm not crazy, but are the service techs real TWC employees? and not contractors, like the installers? One of the reasons I never called for a service visit is that I have a fairly elaborate (not by AVS standards) theater room, and need to assist the techs in getting equipment racks out of their way so they can work unimpeded. And I really do not want contractors seeing what I have in my house, just too risky. I feel better with real TWC employees. I am available any morning right now so just PM me with what day is good and I'll schedule the time to be here.

Shahram

Shahram - and anyone who wants an easy way to troubleshoot for a return issue:

Go to a Free on Demand Channel - anything between 849 and 899 and order a program see if it works

then go to channel 600 and see if that tunes in - its SDV (shhhhhhhh).

If you can accomplish both those tasks then you do not have a return issue.

Shahram - either way, it sounds like you need a service call, not just another equipment switch out, but these steps provide some narrowing of the issue. Please try these steps and also let me know when would be good for a service call for you. My Senior Engineer wants to be in the loop on who goes out there since you have so many unique issues.

Also, is your 3250 on DVI or component?

DianaTWCSC
12-04-05, 10:53 AM
Will make sure its not a contractor and will get back to you on which day this week.

AndyHDTV
12-04-05, 02:26 PM
you guys in South Carolina are so lucky
http://cablefax.com/cgi/cw/show_mag.cgi?pub=cw&mon=120505&file=meetthesystem.htm

D-Nice
12-04-05, 05:15 PM
Diana,
I would like to thank you for getting my CC working again. All is well now.

I see that you guys dropped 813. Was this a temp deletion to launch Uni HD?

Anyway, thanks for the great service....now if I could only get my billing erros corrected ;)

DianaTWCSC
12-04-05, 05:47 PM
Diana,

I see that you guys dropped 813. Was this a temp deletion to launch Uni HD?

Anyway, thanks for the great service....now if I could only get my billing erros corrected ;)


Nope 813 should be on the air - taking 600 - 608 SDV gave us the bandwidth to launch Uni HD - I'll have to get with the Engineers first thing in the morning.

Is 813 off on both your HD DVRs and your CC?

Billing Errors?

D-Nice
12-04-05, 06:01 PM
Nope 813 should be on the air - taking 600 - 608 SDV gave us the bandwidth to launch Uni HD - I'll have to get with the Engineers first thing in the morning.

Is 813 off on both your HD DVRs and your CC?

Billing Errors?

I can now access 813 via the DVRs but not on the CC. Last night was a no go from all 3. Could it have been for the fight that was on 814? What's the status of bringing Cinemax and Stars online?

As far as the billing errors, I've been charged again for the NBA season pass which I do not have. Credits were issued for last month charges by one of the CS Supervisors. Looks like the billing system refuses to let go of my wallet.

DianaTWCSC
12-04-05, 06:20 PM
813 should be available for DVRs and CC - I'll have to get with Engineers in the am

Fight was not a factor - its billing system coding in preparation for CC changes on the 13th

MAX - honestly just don't know

STARZ - no deal to launch it or STARZ on Demand yet

I'll get you credited for NBA in the morning as well.

D-Nice
12-04-05, 07:05 PM
813 should be available for DVRs and CC - I'll have to get with Engineers in the am

Fight was not a factor - its billing system coding in preparation for CC changes on the 13th

MAX - honestly just don't know

STARZ - no deal to launch it or STARZ on Demand yet

I'll get you credited for NBA in the morning as well.

Thanks for all you do Diana.

DigitalJohn
12-04-05, 10:01 PM
Diana (or anyone else) -

I've been having a problem with my new 8300HD over the last 5 days. At least once each day (several times on Saturday and Sunday), we have been unable to watch any recorded programs. When we try, we just get the Playback Channel "banner" page and nothing ever starts playing. If I go to the Recorded List Preferences (Option B), it shows 100% of the recording space used (only 9 recordings). We're still able to watch live TV when it happens, just not recorded programs. As you might expect, we keep missing scheduled recordings too because of it.

To temporarily resolve the issue, I have to unplug the unit to reboot it. Once it reboots, the recording space used is only 18% for the same 9 recordings. I'm also able to watch recorded programs again. However, at some point during the day, the same problem will reoccur... no idea what causes it at this point.

Any ideas? The family is getting frustrated!

Thanks,

DigitalJohn

D-Nice
12-04-05, 10:10 PM
Diana (or anyone else) -

I've been having a problem with my new 8300HD over the last 5 days. At least once each day (several times on Saturday and Sunday), we have been unable to watch any recorded programs. When we try, we just get the Playback Channel "banner" page and nothing ever starts playing. If I go to the Recorded List Preferences (Option B), it shows 100% of the recording space used (only 9 recordings). We're still able to watch live TV when it happens, just not recorded programs. As you might expect, we keep missing scheduled recordings too because of it.

To temporarily resolve the issue, I have to unplug the unit to reboot it. Once it reboots, the recording space used is only 18% for the same 9 recordings. I'm also able to watch recorded programs again. However, at some point during the day, the same problem will reoccur... no idea what causes it at this point.

Any ideas? The family is getting frustrated!

Thanks,

DigitalJohn


You may want to have your 8300 replaced. Sounds like a bad harddrive.

shahram72
12-05-05, 12:41 AM
I had these same symptoms as well before I swapped out my 8300. Get it replaced.

kevinivey
12-05-05, 05:38 AM
Am I missing something? Isn't 813 a blank channel that only shows the Braves home games in HD. Could 814 actually be the channel that you all were talking about, and isn't just a simulcast of INHD1 for some reason?

Diana,

What is up with duplicate HBO west feeds on channels 342-350?

blizz
12-05-05, 10:18 AM
I've noticed something new in the last couple of days.

If I'm watching a recorded program and new scheduled recordings start that involve both tuners, the program playing stops and I get dumped onto one of the channels that is starting a new recording. It never did this before, and I don't lose any recordings, but it is very annoying.

I've got an 8300HD.

Anybody else notice this phenomenon?

After an unexpected reboot on Saturday during SNL, it noticed that this problem has gone away.

DianaTWCSC
12-05-05, 11:33 AM
Am I missing something? Isn't 813 a blank channel that only shows the Braves home games in HD. Could 814 actually be the channel that you all were talking about, and isn't just a simulcast of INHD1 for some reason?

Diana,

What is up with duplicate HBO west feeds on channels 342-350?




813 for CC - I just spoke with my Engineer - much like what Kevin said, he didn't think you could ever view it with a CC when there was no programming because the CC wouldn't be able to recognize it as a channel placement without programming information?

342 to 350 was some SDB testing... not sure if Engineers are done with it yet and have just not taken them back down or are still doing some sort of test.

DianaTWCSC
12-05-05, 11:34 AM
After an unexpected reboot on Saturday during SNL, it noticed that this problem has gone away.


Thanks - I'll pass it along to the Corp Engineering group.

IrmoGamecoq
12-05-05, 02:52 PM
Since we're on the topic of DVR hiccups, has anyone else had this problem?

When I rewind a live show an extended amount of time (more than a few minutes), and then play, sometimes the playback comes in a "stuttered" fashion. The only thing that resolves it is to press "pause" and then "play" and sometimes that doesn't work immediately (I have to repeat the procedure).

Since we're having these other problems with the DVRs, I'm just wondering if this is related too. This only started very recently as well.

scruffy7
12-05-05, 04:11 PM
After an unexpected reboot on Saturday during SNL, it noticed that this problem has gone away.

no reboot here and the problem was still happening today so i rebooted it and all is well again now. thanks for the heads up.

Since we're on the topic of DVR hiccups, has anyone else had this problem?

When I rewind a live show an extended amount of time (more than a few minutes), and then play, sometimes the playback comes in a "stuttered" fashion. The only thing that resolves it is to press "pause" and then "play" and sometimes that doesn't work immediately (I have to repeat the procedure).

Since we're having these other problems with the DVRs, I'm just wondering if this is related too. This only started very recently as well.

not exactly, but i've noticed on rare occasions that when i'm fast forwarding or rewinding the picture will go to freeze frame but the program is still actually fast forwarding or rewinding.

usace
12-05-05, 04:31 PM
......but i've noticed on rare occasions that when i'm fast forwarding or rewinding the picture will go to freeze frame but the program is still actually fast forwarding or rewinding.

I've noticed this as well. When you hit FF the picture will freeze, but the program is still advancing... makes it a little difficult to tell how far you've advanced it. I usually hit FF a second time or play + FF for the freeze frame to disappear. This happens on mine pretty frequently.

DianaTWCSC
12-05-05, 04:35 PM
Since we're on the topic of DVR hiccups, has anyone else had this problem?

When I rewind a live show an extended amount of time (more than a few minutes), and then play, sometimes the playback comes in a "stuttered" fashion. The only thing that resolves it is to press "pause" and then "play" and sometimes that doesn't work immediately (I have to repeat the procedure).

Since we're having these other problems with the DVRs, I'm just wondering if this is related too. This only started very recently as well.



This is a buffering issue that has had the potential to be observed since day one. Sometimes the audio simply gets out of sync and you have to pause to get it back in sync.

D-rock0030
12-05-05, 11:05 PM
11pm and Monday Night Football switches to SD AGAIN. Can't they ever get this fixed?

kevinivey
12-06-05, 06:43 AM
3 more games and your problem is solved. Now, my problem with artifacts on the CBS Sports broadcast will most likely increase whenever another subchannel is added.

IrmoGamecoq
12-06-05, 08:41 AM
This is a buffering issue that has had the potential to be observed since day one. Sometimes the audio simply gets out of sync and you have to pause to get it back in sync.

I've seen the lip sync problem before and this is different.

It's not just audio here, the entire presentation itself "stutters." It plays a half a second, pauses a milisecond, plays a half a second, etc. It never resolves itself on its own...you have to pause play and begin again.

Not the end of the world obviously, but it's annoying.

shahram72
12-06-05, 10:12 AM
Was there an update last night? I was watching (on my 8300)and there was a horrible sounding emergency test. Sounded like the room exploded since I had the system turned up. What's up with that? A few minutes after 1:30am my box rebooted. Before that I was getting several green flashes on my screen watching some content on the DVR. I didn't feel like waiting 10 minutes so I turned it off and went to bed.

bdfox18doe
12-06-05, 10:49 AM
11pm and Monday Night Football switches to SD AGAIN. Can't they ever get this fixed?

hdtv@wolo.com

D-rock0030
12-07-05, 10:54 AM
Seriously, the guy had wood for those two when they played at Georgia. Just wouldn't shut up about them...

Thats because they were excellent players. Maybe someday USuCk fans might understand what its like to have those. Quit bashing on other teams.

63-36-4 :)

D-rock0030
12-07-05, 11:02 AM
So is SDV active for all of Columbia now?

When is Start Over coming to Columbia, not just Irmo?

DianaTWCSC
12-07-05, 05:49 PM
So is SDV active for all of Columbia now?

When is Start Over coming to Columbia, not just Irmo?


Yes, the channels that are SDV and Digital Simulcast are actually throught the SC Division - not just Columbia.


Startover will be rolled out throughout Columbia over the course of this month. There will be a week by week area roll out and you will get a letter and phone call when its hitting your street - unless of course we see anything that makes us not want to push it any more.

So far so good technically - only glitches are really 'backoffice' related, ie if the name of the program doesn't match up, the RTA won't grab it, but that will continue to be refined.

kevinivey
12-07-05, 06:14 PM
startover works great for most channels, but the audio is not correct on FX ,and all the mono audio channels. Great way to catch the news from the beginning!

DianaTWCSC
12-07-05, 07:19 PM
Hello -

Going to visit the Ps for an early Holiday weekend - be back Wednesday!

If you have any service issues or questions, please call 866-892-7201!

Have a great weekend,

toadfannc
12-08-05, 03:07 PM
Yes we are....Universal.....when???? Sometime after 12/13.

I see that you lucky ones in SC already had Universal HD added (before 12/13). No sign of it here in NC. What was significant about that date, anyway? Not that I care too much- there's nothing on Universal HD except re-runs. I want ESPN2HD, but I'm sure that will take another year or 2 for TWC to negotiate (if ever).

D-Nice
12-08-05, 09:04 PM
Does anyone know if TWC carried the SA 4250 STB?

mikepaul
12-09-05, 08:44 AM
I see that you lucky ones in SC already had Universal HD added (before 12/13). No sign of it here in NC. What was significant about that date, anyway?
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=6655377&&#post6655377

Using SDV early on some less-used channels made room. 12/13 is when more of them go SDV. I'm keeping my fingers crossed that all goes well...

kevinivey
12-11-05, 07:16 AM
Does anyone know if TWC carried the SA 4250 STB?


Nope, the boxes that TWCSC has issued are the 2000HD,3100HD,3250HD,8000HD, and the 8300HD.

shahram72
12-11-05, 11:52 AM
I really don't see how this is going to work. SDV means that the channel switching is going to be done away from our boxes, right? How about those of us with connection issues? We are going to have a terrible time watching TV when our boxes won't communicate with the system. I am already missing many lower channels on my "boxed" TV's and assume that they are digital simulcast as they come in perfectly on my two other analog TV's that are just connected to the cable directly. If on demand and start over functions don't work 100%, how is SDV? Or are they so different that I am missing something here. I'm afraid I'm going to have to put up an antenna when SDV happens, the way things are looking.

sheppardwk
12-14-05, 10:55 AM
Yes, the channels that are SDV and Digital Simulcast are actually throught the SC Division - not just Columbia.


Startover will be rolled out throughout Columbia over the course of this month. There will be a week by week area roll out and you will get a letter and phone call when its hitting your street - unless of course we see anything that makes us not want to push it any more.

So far so good technically - only glitches are really 'backoffice' related, ie if the name of the program doesn't match up, the RTA won't grab it, but that will continue to be refined.

I received a letter on December 5, indicating that Startover was now available; however, I don't see any indication that it's working. The letter mentions some type of identification on the channel guide, but I haven't noticed it yet.

mikepaul
12-14-05, 11:38 AM
So, now that 12/13 is here, is there a HDTV channel we should look at as an example of how SDV is doing?...

kevinivey
12-14-05, 03:42 PM
So, now that 12/13 is here, is there a HDTV channel we should look at as an example of how SDV is doing?...


FWIW: UHD being added was a result of sdv.

D-Nice
12-14-05, 07:22 PM
So, now that 12/13 is here, is there a HDTV channel we should look at as an example of how SDV is doing?...

HBO HD West and Showtime HD West. Last night the presentation of Monster on Showtime West looked as if it was being played at x1.3 speed. Very unatural.

D-Nice
12-14-05, 07:22 PM
FWIW: UHD being added was a result of sdv.

Universal is not on SDV as I can still get it through my CC.

kevinivey
12-14-05, 09:22 PM
never said it was. It was able to be added because of the bandwidth added because iof the sdv channels.

SDV is not being used for any HD channels.

D-Nice
12-14-05, 09:28 PM
never said it was. It was able to be added because of the bandwidth added because iof the sdv channels.

SDV is not being used for any HD channels.

Both west coast feeds of HBO and Showtime are on SDV.

kevinivey
12-14-05, 09:36 PM
Based on what? Cable Card access? A lot of the analog tier has switched to sdv.

D-Nice
12-14-05, 09:58 PM
Based on what? Cable Card access? A lot of the analog tier has switched to sdv.


Based on the letter that went out to all cable card subscribers from TWC. It stated when SDV came on line the west coast feeds of HBO and Showtime would not be accessible as they were going to be put on SDV.

If you do not have a cable card, you would not have gotten that letter..

mikepaul
12-15-05, 09:39 AM
Well, since it was Brand-New to me yesterday, I did a Start Over of Cartoon Network last night around 9:45PM, and at 10:00PM it cut off when the show's time-slot ended. (I like Grim and Mandy, I tolerate Billy.)

I tried again at 10:15 with (I think) Fx and "That 70's Show", and accidentally started it over a couple of times. At 10:30 it didn't cut me off so I went to bed.

Not sure I'll learn to like that Start Over indicator.

Now to wait for CinemaxHD...

courier72
12-15-05, 10:02 AM
Based on the letter that went out to all cable card subscribers from TWC. It stated when SDV came on line the west coast feeds of HBO and Showtime would not be accessible as they were going to be put on SDV.

If you do not have a cable card, you would not have gotten that letter..

So more or less, folks with new TVs that are "digital cable ready" will be out of luck if the HD channel desired is SDV unless they;ve a converter box..

DianaTWCSC
12-15-05, 12:33 PM
Startover - we are re-running the code to the entire Management Areas with SO activated, to make sure every converter we think has received the code, actually has received the code. I'm not sure when this will be complete, should be later this afternoon, but lets just give it until tomorrow afternoon to be sure.

DianaTWCSC
12-15-05, 12:35 PM
I really don't see how this is going to work. SDV means that the channel switching is going to be done away from our boxes, right? How about those of us with connection issues? We are going to have a terrible time watching TV when our boxes won't communicate with the system. I am already missing many lower channels on my "boxed" TV's and assume that they are digital simulcast as they come in perfectly on my two other analog TV's that are just connected to the cable directly. If on demand and start over functions don't work 100%, how is SDV? Or are they so different that I am missing something here. I'm afraid I'm going to have to put up an antenna when SDV happens, the way things are looking.


The technical work on the lines outside your home was completed yesterday (12/14). Any noticable improvement?

usace
12-15-05, 01:54 PM
Last night on TBS (channel 24, I think) my wife and I were fooling around with Start over to see how it worked. At around 7:45 we turned to this channel during "Everybody Loves Raymond". I selected the Start Over feature and was given a message saying "Pay it Forward, 2 hrs 30mins" as it was processing the request. When the picture came back on it had accessed the beginning of one of the Seinfeld episodes that started around 6:30 earlier that evening. I exited and tried it again with the same results. Later that evening we tried it on a different channel and it worked fine. Maybe it was just something screwed up with the program lineup for TBS at that given time, although the guide had everything listed correctly. Maybe it's just a few bugs still to be worked out.

DianaTWCSC
12-15-05, 02:06 PM
Yes the technology of re-starting programs works like a charm - all the bugs we see are in getting the accurate guide data to the real time encoder - if that's off by one letter or digit it can cause a bump.

IrmoGamecoq
12-15-05, 02:19 PM
I must've blinked and missed the SDV discussion. Can anyone link to where it was described and what it does exactly?

Gary J
12-15-05, 02:40 PM
I must've blinked and missed the SDV discussion. Can anyone link to where it was described and what it does exactly?
Start here (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/faq.php?faq=vb_board_usage#faq_vb_board_search) .

shahram72
12-15-05, 07:03 PM
Still missing some channels (i.e. CSPAN), and the new box downstairs is painfully slow, but start over feature worked when I tried it. Some digital channels take several seconds to switch to and. Can I get a newer, faster box? After the new year, I'm done with it for now.

The technical work on the lines outside your home was completed yesterday (12/14). Any noticable improvement?

courier72
12-15-05, 10:24 PM
Still missing some channels (i.e. CSPAN), and the new box downstairs is painfully slow, but start over feature worked when I tried it. Some digital channels take several seconds to switch to and. Can I get a newer, faster box? After the new year, I'm done with it for now.

I noticed the same with channel 8 early this evening. Also a brief dropout in WIS-DT also during the 7pm news.

thebeatles67
12-18-05, 08:06 AM
Hi all,

I am a newbie to TWC in Bishopville, SC having just moved from Simpsonville SC on Charter. What a pleasant surprise to have ABC and FOX in HD which Charter in Greenville sadly still does not have. Im also very happy to see Diana participating on this forum--I find that very refreshing.

My TWC installer delivered and installed an "8000" box last week --now it seems that the 8300 is the preferred unit from this forum-- if true--what is better about it? Admittledly have very little time with the 8000. I would like to use the DVI or HDMI inputs on my TV if they are active for these units---are they? installer just hooked me up via component--never discussed HDMI etc--in Greenville I could only use component cables with the Moxi as it wasnt active with their box at this time.

Ive also heard that a new "8600" HD box is due in first quarter. Anyone know about these?

Thanks for any and all input--Happy Holidays.

Mike in Bishopville

DianaTWCSC
12-18-05, 10:10 AM
Welcome to the area Mike, glad to have you as a new happy customer:

My first / best comment about the 8300 is the superior PQ - I'm sure others can provide their input and favorite qualities. If you want to use HDMI, you will have to acquire a 8300. The DVI output on the 8000 is not active. Since we do not provide either of these connections to customers, our installer wouldn't have asked you about it (if you didn't know what he was talking about as the vast majority of HD owner's wouldn't) it would have just opened up a can of worms for him.

I have not heard of an 8600 model?

Take care,

thebeatles67
12-18-05, 10:18 AM
Thanks Diana--Ill defintely move up to the 8300 based on your input. So whats the best way to do this? I commute to Columbia almost everyday--are the 8300s in stock? Id love to come by this week. Thanks again.

Mike

DianaTWCSC
12-18-05, 02:28 PM
Your area is fed off the Sumter system, so you need to pick one up at the Guidnard office. Anything you picked up in Columbia wouldn't work in your home.

You will just have to take in your 8000 and ask to exchange for an 8300. If they are reluctant to exchange it, explain you want to hook up via HDMI.

D-Nice
12-18-05, 07:14 PM
How many HD channels per QAM is our local TWC doing?

courier72
12-19-05, 07:16 PM
Welcome to the area Mike, glad to have you as a new happy customer:

My first / best comment about the 8300 is the superior PQ - I'm sure others can provide their input and favorite qualities. If you want to use HDMI, you will have to acquire a 8300. The DVI output on the 8000 is not active. Since we do not provide either of these connections to customers, our installer wouldn't have asked you about it (if you didn't know what he was talking about as the vast majority of HD owner's wouldn't) it would have just opened up a can of worms for him.

I have not heard of an 8600 model?

Take care,

There once was or still is an analog addressable SA8600 converter. OT, but I think that that's what may have been used with the Axcess <sp?> system that was touted about the turn of the century prior to digital and the SA2000 STBs.

There is a new digital-only 8240HD show in SA's website, but no idea if this STB will pop up here. Also there's another STB with a DVD burner, MCP-100, that's SD from what I read that was shown at the CES. No idea if that will make it here either, but a version of it with an HD tuner woudl be sweet. Even nicer would be HD-DVD or Blu Ray, maybe when it freezes over somewhere.

IrmoGamecoq
12-20-05, 09:42 AM
Is the HD-DVR remote the only one that allows for screen "stretching" via the "#" button?

I have an 8000HD, but a friend of mine has a regular HD converter box and claims he has to switch inputs in order to avoid the black bars on non-HD content (either that or use the TV remote to change the TV's inherant stretch modes - either way he has to use a different remote).

Anyone with a non-DVR HD converter box care to chime in?

courier72
12-20-05, 06:24 PM
Is the HD-DVR remote the only one that allows for screen "stretching" via the "#" button?

I have an 8000HD, but a friend of mine has a regular HD converter box and claims he has to switch inputs in order to avoid the black bars on non-HD content (either that or use the TV remote to change the TV's inherant stretch modes - either way he has to use a different remote).

Anyone with a non-DVR HD converter box care to chime in?

When I had the 3250HD, I was able to switch modes with either the # key or from within Quick Settings. I think that maybe that was so because I was given the remote that goes with the DVR boxes (it had the list button).

kevinivey
12-20-05, 07:42 PM
Up and running since Sunday evening ,and all seems well. :)


Bought from a forum sponsor: http://www.weaknees.com/maxtor_qvx.php
Purchase at your own risk. Not officially supported by TWC.

DianaTWCSC
12-20-05, 07:56 PM
Is the HD-DVR remote the only one that allows for screen "stretching" via the "#" button?



Yes, the # power key for stretching came with the HD DVR. I remember how much fun it was to write the description of the process for the DVR Guide.

DianaTWCSC
12-20-05, 07:57 PM
There once was or still is an analog addressable SA8600 converter.


That was a Gerrold, not SA

DianaTWCSC
12-20-05, 07:58 PM
Bought from a forum sponsor: http://www.weaknees.com/maxtor_qvx.php
Purchase at your own risk. Not officially supported by TWC.


{fingers in ears} repeating over and over "Blah, Blah, Blah, Blah, Blah"

kevinivey
12-20-05, 08:11 PM
Well , I could had kept it to myself, but that's not my nature. :)

I did use a disclaimer.

bdfox18doe
12-20-05, 08:30 PM
{fingers in ears} repeating over and over "Blah, Blah, Blah, Blah, Blah"


Sounds like someone is in DENIAL... :D

IrmoGamecoq
12-21-05, 09:07 AM
Thanks for the info on the "#" key everyone...I'll just tell my buddy he can use the "settings" button on his cable remote instead...

Kir
12-21-05, 01:28 PM
Every time I watch Showtime HD on TWC (I do have to admit that I only watch "Sleeper Cell" on Showtime) I notice severe pixelation/sound problems at least 2 times/hr. Other channels, like HBOHD, are fine.
Anyone else noticed?

mikepaul
12-21-05, 05:07 PM
Every time I watch Showtime HD on TWC (I do have to admit that I only watch "Sleeper Cell" on Showtime) I notice severe pixelation/sound problems at least 2 times/hr. Other channels, like HBOHD, are fine.
Anyone else noticed?
Despite commercials laughing at satellite for poor reception in bad weather, cable suffers just as much more times than I can count. Groups of channels just drop off and then eventually show up again. No fix in sight. I ignore those kind of flaws now. Ones caused by low bitrate, like when a scene transition has large shimmering areas, seem better to complain about in case some money spent on new hardware can fix it...

scruffy7
12-22-05, 12:28 PM
Every time I watch Showtime HD on TWC (I do have to admit that I only watch "Sleeper Cell" on Showtime) I notice severe pixelation/sound problems at least 2 times/hr. Other channels, like HBOHD, are fine.
Anyone else noticed?

i've also been watching Sleeper Cell on SHO-HD (recorded on 8300HD) and it has been glitch-free over here.

DianaTWCSC
12-22-05, 02:19 PM
i've also been watching Sleeper Cell on SHO-HD (recorded on 8300HD) and it has been glitch-free over here.


I've been catching up with Sleeper Cell (only through episode 3 so far) On Demand in Irmo with no issues.


Cheap Promotional opportunity :D - Showtime has really been doing some very good series lately - I'm getting into Sleeper Cell, Weeds was GREAT and Barbershop even grew on me. Third season of L Word coming up also looks to be pretty good.

jnosnevets
12-22-05, 02:54 PM
When I first set up my system 3 years ago, I was able to receive all the local HD channels OTA. Then, after deinstalling my system for a few months, I set it up again only now I am totally unable to receive any HD broadcast of the ABC affiliate on 25.1. Everything else is fine. I even tweaked my antenna, thinking that perhaps the antenna had somehow rotated slightly and 25.1's signal was low, but no luck. I live in Irmo and use a Sony Sat-HD100. Any ideas?

bdfox18doe
12-22-05, 04:11 PM
Try a re-scan, that should take care of the problem.

topher57
12-23-05, 10:43 AM
I don't know about a rescan, I am in Florence SC, I would say in the last month or so 25.1 rarely comes in anymore whereas it used to be a given. I personally think it has something to do on there end.

kevinivey
12-23-05, 03:38 PM
Wolo-DT is fine ota in Lexington. Wis-DT keeps coming in and out of 10.1 to 41.1

bdfox18doe
12-23-05, 10:05 PM
I'm not aware of any problems on our end..but, the Sony 100 was one of the worst tuners made, so we could be drifting out slightly.. We'll have to look at that after the 1st..

bdenman
12-25-05, 09:34 AM
Merry Christmas everyone!

DianaTWCSC
12-25-05, 01:19 PM
You too Bruce!

Hope you and your family - and EVERYONE enjoys a wonderful season!

usace
12-27-05, 01:12 PM
I know it's a little late, but the basketball games on xmas day on WOLO were supposed to be in high def. At least the first half of the Spurs/Pistons game at 12:30 was not in HD. I don't know about the rest of that game or the following game because I was busy with my family. I sent an email to WOLO at the time, but the switch was never flipped in the 1.5 hours I was watching. I was a little dissappointed, but it was hard to be too upset with it being xmas and all.

usace
12-27-05, 01:18 PM
My TWC roadrunner connection went out some time yesterday evening. My wife phoned me here at work to let me know that it's still down right now. We're not having any problems receiving any stations on TV...standard, digital, and HD tiers are all coming in fine. Anyone else experiencing this?

bdfox18doe
12-27-05, 01:25 PM
I know it's a little late, .

Nope..And I have had a very stern discussion with the operator on duty over this.
He just wasn't paying attention.

I always want to know about this, just in a professional civil manner. It doesn't go
unnoticed.. :)

thebeatles67
12-27-05, 01:29 PM
From an article I read today on the AVS forum:

"In the meantime, other companies are making it easier to watch and copy high-definition movies. Scientific-Atlanta has a new set-top box with a digital video recorder and DVD recorder built in, so cable subscribers can use a single machine to record programming and burn it onto blank discs[U].'

usace
12-27-05, 01:33 PM
Nope..And I have had a very stern discussion with the operator on duty over this.
He just wasn't paying attention.

I always want to know about this, just in a professional civil manner. It doesn't go
unnoticed.. :)

Like I said, it was hard to be upset on xmas. The family was over anyway, and required my attention. I appreciate you being available to communicate these types of hiccups to, though.

mikepaul
12-27-05, 01:49 PM
"In the meantime, other companies are making it easier to watch and copy high-definition movies. Scientific-Atlanta has a new set-top box with a digital video recorder and DVD recorder built in, so cable subscribers can use a single machine to record programming and burn it onto blank discs[U].'Not a lot of HD would fit on a DVD, but if they ship one with a HD-DVD drive and the ability to play them back without a HDMI connection, I'll take the upgrade.

I'm not expecting they'll be allowed to do that, but I can hope...

topher57
12-27-05, 02:03 PM
I had that problem here in florence a few years back, a part in the main in my neighborhood had to be replaced.
It took a few days because they had to order the part.

DianaTWCSC
12-27-05, 02:29 PM
My TWC roadrunner connection went out some time yesterday evening. My wife phoned me here at work to let me know that it's still down right now. We're not having any problems receiving any stations on TV...standard, digital, and HD tiers are all coming in fine. Anyone else experiencing this?


I had the exact same thing happen to me a couple of years ago. Some water had seeped into a cut in the line and it caused loss of frequency for HSD - even though all my video even HD still came in fine. Your best bet is a service call.

D-rock0030
12-29-05, 11:12 AM
I know it's a little late, but the basketball games on xmas day on WOLO were supposed to be in high def. At least the first half of the Spurs/Pistons game at 12:30 was not in HD. I don't know about the rest of that game or the following game because I was busy with my family. I sent an email to WOLO at the time, but the switch was never flipped in the 1.5 hours I was watching. I was a little dissappointed, but it was hard to be too upset with it being xmas and all.

Yeah and the MNF game switched to SD at precisely 11pm AGAIN. Someone flipped it back to HD around 11:30 or so. But that makes them perfect on the season. Every single MNF game and not a single one was HD from start to finish. Well at least there will never be another MNF game on WOLO ever again so they dont have to worry about it anymore. But it seems to me that if I screwed up at work 18 or 19 weeks in a row (including the couple of preseason MNF games) that I'd be disciplined or possibly even fired. Apparently they still take HD lightly at that station.

bdfox18doe
12-29-05, 11:56 AM
No, we just like reading your posts.. :D

You should really put the blame where it belongs...With ABC Network for NOT giving affiliates a full time HD feed.. FOX does, anytime there is programming on FOX the HD feed is present..so no timer is required. :rolleyes:

And we don't fire people for making mistakes where no money is lost :)

D-Nice
12-29-05, 08:56 PM
So what's in store for TWC and the local stations in Q1 2006? Cinemax HD? MHD? ESPN2 HD? Hey WB Channel 63...where's the HD? UPN 57...same question for you.

TWC, you now have the technology. You can rebuild the HD package to make it bigger, stronger...more powerful than before ;)

DianaTWCSC
12-30-05, 04:56 AM
Technology - check
Neccessary contracts - no check
Providing you projections on future launch dates - no check

Procedure for announcing channel additions will remain unchanged from 2005, when its ready, its ready and you guys will be the first to find out. I have no resolution on my list to provide projections that raise expectations and result in bad feelings.

kevinivey
12-30-05, 05:29 AM
Upn and WB do NOT broadcast a HD channel in this area.

bdfox18doe
12-30-05, 08:15 AM
Diana-
I've heard that Nat-Geo HD is launching in the next few weeks..any word as to TWC carrying this?

Happy New Year to You, and thanks for your participation here..

D-Nice
12-30-05, 08:42 AM
Upn and WB do NOT broadcast a HD channel in this area.


I know, but it's time for them to join the 21st century.

blizz
12-30-05, 09:01 AM
What happened to WIS-DT Last night?

It went sour about 6:15 and stayed that way all night. LOTS of drop-outs. All other channels were fine.

DianaTWCSC
12-30-05, 07:39 PM
Diana-
I've heard that Nat-Geo HD is launching in the next few weeks..any word as to TWC carrying this?
.


I guess you didn't read my last post...

Gary J
12-30-05, 07:48 PM
You should really put the blame where it belongs...With ABC Network for NOT giving affiliates a full time HD feed.. FOX does, anytime there is programming on FOX the HD feed is present..so no timer is required. :rolleyes:

And we don't fire people for making mistakes where no money is lost :)
Seems like my ABC can do MNF HD all the way through without a full time HD feed.

bdfox18doe
12-30-05, 08:43 PM
I guess you didn't read my last post...

Yes, and I also have a better, non-evasive answer from TWC here.... ;)

jtbell
12-31-05, 02:35 AM
Hey Bob,

Can you remind the guy who's going to be at the switch at WOLO tonight to remember to turn on the HD at 11:35 for the second part of the New Year's show, after "Girls Behaving Badly"? (Then he can pop open the champagne! :D)

bdfox18doe
12-31-05, 09:44 AM
Yea, I'll do that for you..but he may have already been in the champagne by then... :eek:

And do let me know if It doesn't get through in HD.. :o

kevinivey
12-31-05, 11:59 PM
At 2 mins till, Wolo-DT fails again!

bdenman
01-01-06, 12:00 AM
Happy New Year everybody!

kevinivey
01-01-06, 12:01 AM
At 12:01 they switch back. Hopefully 2006 will bring a better way to switch from SD to HD for our local ABC station.

bdfox18doe
01-01-06, 06:03 AM
Thanks Kevin.

The problem comes from having MANY time periods where there are no hd feeds,so there
are two timers that have to be programmed to accomodate all the switches as one won't hold all the events. The guys just aren't paying close enough attention when programming the units. If we take out the timers, they'll miss a lot more HD programs than they do. It's very easy to overlook an "off" command in these units that was for another day.

Looks like another fun one-on-one with the MCO next week.. We do speak to them, and they get written up too.. about these problems.

kevinivey
01-02-06, 05:26 PM
Bob,

Terrific job with the 5.1 for Today's game. Much better than the olds days of forced R and L sound.

Sounds just like the 2.0 Espn that my receiver processes to DD PLllx.

bdfox18doe
01-02-06, 05:38 PM
Thanks, have spent quite a bit of time tweaking it..we use the same configuration and settings for WCCB and our other stations, and have had some very positive comments on our FAUX 5.1.. The trick is to set it up so that it sounds good in a stereo downmix and mono.

Let me know if any more HD switching issues..have been on the guys about doing better.

Remember: hdtv-at-wolo.com goes to all the managers..

kevinivey
01-02-06, 06:06 PM
I am listening back and forth in two different rooms and the Stereo downmix sounds great.

Brent Hutto
01-02-06, 08:38 PM
Is it just our TWC feed or is Columbia's Fox HD signal off the air? We haven't had anything but a blank screen on 820 since at least Friday.

kevinivey
01-02-06, 08:41 PM
Nope, both TWC and OTA are fine here in West Columbia/Lexington.

Brent Hutto
01-02-06, 08:49 PM
Well ain't I brilliant? I just ignored it while I've been home for a week on holiday and now I'll have to log a service call after I'm back at work. My timing is not so good lately...

tigers
01-02-06, 09:59 PM
Looks like my 8000HD has finally bitten the dust. It hasn't recorded anything for a few weeks now and tonight it just died. Ifinite reboots with a message on the LCD of hdd-. Guess the hdd is bad. Oh well. Guess I'll have to bring it in and get an 8300HD.

usace
01-03-06, 09:57 AM
bdfox18doe - would you please remind the guys about the HD switch for tonight's college football game (Penn State - Florida State)? The broadcast starts at 8PM, but I'm sure it'll run past 11 PM. I guess the same goes for tomorrow night's game too (Southern Cal - Texas). Thanks!

bdfox18doe
01-03-06, 09:59 AM
Yes, there has been discussion on that.. Let me know if there are problems...

xtremecobra
01-03-06, 10:27 AM
myself and a coworker are having the same issue. when you press the pause button it's jumping back like 20 min. sunday during the car vs atl game i hit the rewind button to see a play again and it jumped back a whole quarter. there was a 10 minutes just missing from the game. then last night i was watching las vegas and pressed pause and it jumped back to the 49th min. of surface. and to top it off it only recorded 49 minutes of surface. i couldnt pause, rewind or anything without it going back to that same spot. is there some kind of glitch or what? by the way my coworker has the 8000 and i have the 8300.

mikepaul
01-03-06, 10:37 AM
My 8300HD was wacky early Sunday morning. Wouldn't List any pre-recorded stuff, and wouldn't record anything new. Did a soft-reset (Volume+ and Volume-, then Info) and after it rebooted it was well again...

usace
01-04-06, 09:22 AM
Just wanted to say good job to WOLO on the HD feed of last night's college football game. With three overtimes the game didn't end until after 1AM, and the HD feed was present for the entire game. Thanks for keeping on top of this!

bdfox18doe
01-04-06, 09:30 AM
Thanks, should be more better now, We've removed the timers all together and have instituted hopefully improved procedures..

maurerrm
01-04-06, 10:56 AM
Just wanted to say good job to WOLO on the HD feed of last night's college football game. With three overtimes the game didn't end until after 1AM, and the HD feed was present for the entire game. Thanks for keeping on top of this!
+1 At around 11:30 I noticed we never lost the HD feed.

Great to see my boys back on top again. Two seconds away from an undefeated season. :D

usace
01-04-06, 11:12 AM
Thanks, should be more better now, We've removed the timers all together and have instituted hopefully improved procedures..

Whatever you guys did last night worked great. :)

usace
01-04-06, 11:22 AM
Great to see my boys back on top again. Two seconds away from an undefeated season. :D

I agree. Good to be back on top. Don't get me started on that whole 2 seconds thing. Talk about getting hosed... :(

kevinivey
01-04-06, 08:35 PM
Bob,

Your faux 5.1 is about 99.5% center channel for tonight's game.

bdfox18doe
01-04-06, 08:39 PM
Nothing has changed here from last night..so I'd say that is what they are feeding.. see:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=626315

jtbell
01-05-06, 02:22 AM
Great to see my boys back on top again. Two seconds away from an undefeated season. :D

As a Michigan alum, I'm glad to have had those two seconds. :D But I was happy to cheer for Penn State anyway on Tuesday night, even if it did make me a bit bleary-eyed at work on Wednesday. :p

After that game, I was afraid tonight would be an anticlimax, but I needn't have worried. And both games stayed HD all the way through! Good job, guys.

Now I can rest up for the Panthers in the playoffs.. but that's a different station, unless they make it to the Super Bowl.

kevinivey
01-05-06, 03:48 PM
Bob,

Does Wolo-DT have the ability to pass HD from another source other than a ABC network feed?

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=626672

bdfox18doe
01-05-06, 03:56 PM
Yes, WOLO-DT can pass HD from alternate sources..But ONLY if it would be a 720p source..
We don't have any cross conversion capabilities. It all comes down to $$$$$, But at this
time, there are no other HD sources available to us to air other than ABC Network.

JP-Raycom games in 720p would be no problem!

kevinivey
01-05-06, 04:47 PM
To bad the JP SEC games are on Wis.

Question: In your opinion, how many years until a local HD broadcast in this market? WLTX-DT claims to be SC HDTV leader, but all they do is pass the network feed.

The real local HD leader will be the local willing to be the first to spend the money to do it. It is truly amazing how long WRAL in Raleigh has been broadcasting in HD.

bdfox18doe
01-05-06, 05:26 PM
[QUOTE=kevinivey]To bad the JP SEC games are on Wis.

Question: In your opinion, how many years until a local HD broadcast in this market? [QUOTE]

IMHO, not until one of two things happen:

1) significant additional local revenue can be generated (not likley any time soon)
2) The stations physical plant is rebuilt. Which is more likely, as you really can't buy
SD gear anymore, and the cost difference for HD isn't that great anymore.

Since the WCCB-WOLO plant is only 6 years old, that won't happen anytime soon
for us. However, you may see us go to SD widescreen in the future, we're already eqippped for that for the most part.. :)

jtbell
01-05-06, 06:24 PM
Yes, WOLO-DT can pass HD from alternate sources..But ONLY if it would be a 720p source..

But will you be able to time-shift syndicated HD stuff, as with Jeopardy and WoF beginning this fall? I'm guessing that they'll be distributed in 720p because most of the stations carrying them seem to be ABC affiliates.

bdfox18doe
01-05-06, 07:03 PM
But will you be able to time-shift syndicated HD stuff,.

Nope..no time shifting without spending money..live stuff yes..it's too early at this point to say whether we'll carry those two..too many unknowns.. :)

Now, we receive Wheel and Jeopardy via Pathfire Catch server, which doesn't support HD (yet) and doens't allow direct play to air, shows must be dubbed..

D-rock0030
01-06-06, 11:24 AM
Thanks, should be more better now, We've removed the timers all together and have instituted hopefully improved procedures..

WOLO did a good job with the college HD games. Every game that was supposed to be in HD was and from start to finish.

shahram72
01-07-06, 06:13 PM
Does anyone have the SA 2000 box for one fo their regular TV's? They took my 3250 away during a service call cause my downstairs TV wasn't an HD set. But I liked watching the HD channels downstairs, it looked like a high quality DVD and was definitely a difference over SD even on my 35" Sony HD set. Also, the new box is so slow! So slow I cannot bear it anymore. It's worse than my last one and still exhibits color banding on start over content, when I can get it to work. I need to go swap out this box, is there a newer SD box I can get? Or maybe I should ask for another 3250HD, if they have one. Right now, I'm online, cause the cable's completely out, on a Saturday night. Don't know why. I'm sure it'll come back eventually. Should it take a few seconds per channel to channel surf? I think that's too long. MY 8300 and my old 3250 changed channels very quickly.

kevinivey
01-07-06, 07:48 PM
Yes there are two newer SD boxes. (2100 and 3100)

kevinivey
01-08-06, 04:35 PM
No HD for Sunday's NFL game.

sheppardwk
01-08-06, 04:37 PM
No HD for Sunday's NFL game.
Why not?
Jim Nantz just announced that it would be sposored by Sony and CBS.